User talk:Dodger67/Archive 7

Reference improvements - are they acceptable?
Hello,

Thank you for reviewing my AFC. After reading your comments and trying to understand the reason it was not approved, I've made several adjustments to the article. In your reasoning for disapproving the article, it was noted that references needed to be improved. I believe I've got the right formatting for references now and I've included more, which should improve my article's credibility. Would you please take a look at the article now (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:VT_M%C3%84K) when you have a moment? I understand you are busy and cannot reply immediately.

I would also like help understanding why similar articles have been approved, which do not have significant references, or any at all. Why is it that while I'm trying to create something by the rules and standards, other articles exist that should be rejected and deleted? A perfect example of a very similar subject is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presagis. I understand that wiki is trying to keep information credible. But I do not understand how my article can keep getting rejected while articles with no credible references still exist. Do I need to delete articles that do not have any references? Can I add references to them to improve them?

I'm new to wiki and contributing, so please forgive my ignorance.

I appreciate your help in getting my article approved with credible content.

SimSoftRules (talk) 19:55, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Hello, I see that you've answered some other users questions. Is it possible for you to see the improvements I've made on my article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:VT_M%C3%84K ? Thanks for your help, I appreciate it. SimSoftRules (talk) 15:30, 9 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi SimSoftRules, sorry I'm only responding now, somehow I missed this post. It looks like your referencing has indeed improved. I'm not sure why you say your draft "keeps getting rejected" when as far as I can see, it has been reviewed only once so far.
 * The fact that there are other articles with problems is not relevant to your article's approval. Most articles on Wikipedia have never been through a review process at all so finding the problems and fixing them is a never-ending process, one that you are definitely welcome to help with. I see the unreferenced on you found has already been tagged for the problem.
 * Getting back to your draft, some of the sections have no or very few references. Where did you find the lists of Customers and Standards? The Products section is also unsourced. If you add references fot these sections your draft will probably be accepted at itS next review. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:45, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

@Dodger67 - Thank you very much for your help. I've made the changes you have suggested. So now every section of the article has some sort of credible reference. Can you please look at the article one last time to see if there are any other improvements I may make? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:VT_M%C3%84K Thank you very much for your help and time. SimSoftRules (talk) 21:32, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

title redirect
Thank's a lot for the cleanup at Yakub Khan Mehboob Khan. I have left this msg at the Talk page of the article too. My request is: Can the article have a Title Redirect to Yakub (actor)? I don't know how to do that. Thanks again. Kaayay (talk) 09:16, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Kaayay - I have already created the redirect Yakub (actor). Thanks for the article. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:21, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Physically integrated dance
Hi Dodger, I'm trying to diffuse cat:dance and wondering if you can help me. Can you take a look at Category:Dance and see if there's a suitable subcat for physically integrated dance? Thanks. Lambtron (talk) 20:02, 19 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Lambtron, I fixed it. Category:Physically integrated dance is already a subcategory of Category:Dance culture, which I believe is the best fit. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:21, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Trial of Oscar Pistorius
You recently contributed at Talk:Trial of Oscar Pistorius.

Can I ask you to look at this Talk:Trial_of_Oscar_Pistorius querying the neutrality of the section "Progress of the Trial" and let me know 1 if you agree/disagree that it's biased and needs fixing 2 whether you propose to make any contributing edits to fix.

I've suggested May 5, when trial resumes, should be a target date to get things fixed. In my view two things at least are needed:


 * A balancing edit to record that expert witness for the prosecution testified that Reeva Steenkamp would have had time to scream and that it would have been abnormal for her not to.


 * A balancing edit for Pistorius' apology. Perhaps recording Reeva Steenkamp's mother's response in the press following?

An alternative (which I prefer) would be to strike the edit I originally reverted, so that the concluding paragraphs would look like this:


 * On 28 March, the trial was postponed until 7 April as one of the assessors fell ill. On 7 April, Pistorius began testifying in his own defence at the trial. The cross examination of Pistorius lasted for five days, and ended on April 15th.

Please reply here (I've watchlisted your page).Coat of Many Colours (talk) 09:39, 25 April 2014 (UTC)


 * I think your proposed edits are quite reasonable, however I have no further interest in editing the article. Per WP:BOLD and WP:SOFIXIT you are welcome to go ahead and make the changes you wish. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:51, 25 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I've copied my suggestions to the Talk page. I'll wait until May 5 when the trial resumes before intervening myself. Coat of Many Colours (talk) 10:54, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

AFC pages you have under review
You have one or more pages in Category:Pending AfC submissions being reviewed now with your name on them. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)  19:59, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Italian wolf article ready
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Italian_wolf

Thanks for your assistance. Kind regards Mariomassone (talk) 22:12, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

MPAC Page for Creation
Hi. I am making the following changes on the MPAC page for creation: - I replaced the source using a blog to that of an actual news article. - No direct reference on who built the 1st 3 MPACs as the Philippine Navy refused to divulge them, but speculations are that it was "Lung Teh Shipbuilding", hence I am using the following phrase, "In 2009, the Philippine Navy ordered the first batch of 3 ships from a Taiwanese company whose identity was never revealed up to now. However, speculations point out that the manufacturer might be the Taiwanese company "Lung Teh Shipbuilding Co. Ltd." - Rhk111 (talk) 11:19, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Threat Matrix submission
Thx for the approval. Can we s/assesment/assessment/ in the title of the article? Mimooh (talk) 13:27, 5 May 2014 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Threat_Matrix_%28fire_service%29 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mimooh (talk • contribs) 13:28, 5 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Mimooh - I'm not sure I understand what you are asking. I think you want the article moved to a different title - is "Threat assessment matrix" correct? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:43, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi, originally I was asking for substituting the misspelled 'assesment' into 'assessment' in the title. However, since the term is specific to firefighting only and we have an occasion to change it, I propose Threat Matrix (firefighting) or Threat Matrix (firefighting risk assessment) Mimooh (talk) 07:54, 6 May 2014 (UTC)


 * @Mimooh - I think we might need more expert help with this. The use of parenthetical words or phrases in page titles is governed by the WP:Disambiguation guidelines - I'm not sure they should be used at all in this case as there is no disambiguation involved. Are we certain that the this type of matrix is in fact used only by fire services? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:10, 6 May 2014 (UTC)


 * OK, we may get rid of parenthetical part completely. And yes, we are certain that this particular Threat Matrix applies only to firefighting. Once such matrices become applied to other domains, we can have the article adjusted. Mimooh (talk) 09:17, 6 May 2014 (UTC)


 * @Mimooh - How about "Firefighting threat assessment matrix"? It is concise and specific - as the WP:Article title guideline requires. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:51, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I endorse Mimooh's suggested title "Firefighting threat assessment matrix". "Threat matrix" sounds like a generic term and "WP:IAR - don't confuse the readers" trumps WP:Primary topic and WP:Article names. Would one of you do the honors of either boldly moving this or opening a renaming-discussion at Talk:Threat Matrix (risk assesment)?  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)  14:57, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
 * @Mimooh and davidwr - Done, it is now at Firefighting threat assessment matrix. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:48, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Evidence of severe bias in editing
Roger - you know how to deal with these matters - can you please take a look on my talk page User talk:Farawayman at a post submitted by User:Rui Gabriel Correia. He certainly points out some valid POV edits! Your assistance and advice would be appreciated. Farawayman (talk) 00:49, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Dodger67. Please see comments by the editor here. Regards. Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia (talk) 01:32, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
 * @Farawayman @Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia - I will take a good long look at it later today - from the many links it seems to be quite a complex issue. I can give an opinion but I cannot do anything substantive about the problem as I am not an admin. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:56, 6 May 2014 (UTC)


 * @Farawayman @Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia - I'm not seeing anything screamingly blatant - sufficient to require a block. One person's "regime" (an inherently negative word) is another person's "government" (no value judgment). IMHO some of those articles do lean rather a bit too much towards a "noble natives/rebels/communists versus evil colonists/imperialists/capitalists" POV - so at least some of the edits are justifiable as an attempt to balance the article towards NPOV. However when taken as a whole it is clear that the editor does show their own bias - whether that is sanctionable I'm not sure - requesting opinions from admins via ANI might be the way to go. Where sourced statements were changed the cited source should be checked - if that is not possible then one should revert to whatever the person who originally added the sourced statement wrote - AGF requires that we presume that the editor who cited the source can actually read. Content disputes should go through the usual dispute resolution processes. As for sockpuppetry - I'd prefer to leave that to a proper investigation by admins who have the necessary tools and access to the relevant data. (I'm going to be away from my computer for the next few days, so I will unfortunately not be able to participate in any further actions relating to this issue until at least the weekend. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:21, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Full citation for Morillo article
Note that I tried to integrate him into this multivolume work, and he produced a chapter. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 13:09, 13 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I think the way I formatted it is clearer - drawing a sharper distinction between the book and chapter titles as well as the chapter author and the book editors. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:21, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Resubmission of Prestonpans article about Scottish Barony
Hey there... back on April 4 you rejected https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/The_Scottish_feudal_barony_of_Preston_(Prestonpans) and then on April 10 we resubmitted it with additional references. Any chance you could have a quick look and see if it's ready for approval? As you already reviewed this it should be fast... the only change was the addition of more references as per your request. Thanks for any help you can offer! David Stambler (talk) 22:02, 12 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi David Stambler - I think it's almost ready to go - what it really needs is a proper introduction that says "The Barony of Preston is.... (and then briefly define what it is, is it a piece of land, is it a title of nobility, or is it both? The geography is not really clear - where exactly is it? Try to relate it to well known present day cities and landmarks - keep in mind that 99.9% of your readers have never been to Scotland. The bulk of the article is a chronology of the holders of the title, which looks acceptable. What the article desperately needs is WP:Wikilinks that connect it to other articles - I will try to add a few now. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:31, 13 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Dodger67 - Thanks for your reply... what we hope to do is link to this from the Prestonpans link on this page here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_feudal_barony - I'm working with the current baron who now lives in Vancouver, BC, and he's done all research on this.... So, the way that most users would arrive to this is by first visiting the main Scottish Feudal Barony page, which explains more about the information that you are describing. Make sense? If there is something specific that you want me to do, I'll do it!  And thanks for the speedy response... I can see that you are insanely swamped by lots of demanding so-and-so's just like me wanting your time! David Stambler (talk) 07:40, 13 May 2014 (UTC)


 * @David Stambler - I'm busy adding a bunch of wikilinks and fixing the formatting. I will ping you here when I'm done, then it's over to you to fix the intro as I mentioned above. Linking from other articles should be done once it is in mainspace. BTW I'm wondering about the article title - from what I've read in the article it seems to be Barony of Preston and Prestonpans, is this correct? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:53, 13 May 2014 (UTC)


 * @Dodger67 - Well, you certainly seem to be going over and above to help us out... you must have some royal blood in you, or maybe you are expecting a Wikipedia knighthood or barony! As you are trying to be as descriptive as possible, wouldn't the best title be Scottish Feudal Barony of Preston and Prestonpans - if you remove the Scottish and Feudal doesn't that make it even more generic and run counter to explaining up front to the user what it's all about?David Stambler (talk) 08:06, 13 May 2014 (UTC)


 * @David Stambler You turn now. I've done the fixing and about as much wikilinking as I could - please check that the links I added go to the correct kings, battles, etc. There are a few WP:Redlinks too - further articles that need to be written! "Wha's like us? Damn few and their a' deid!" My maternal grandmother was a Scot from Dumfries. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:11, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
 * BTW - once the article is up we could ask the Map workshop to do some of their magic. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:14, 13 May 2014 (UTC)


 * @Dodger67 - Well, you and I should call it a night, Knight Wikilot.... I will have to turn this over to the latest Baron himself for the final changes, and then will get right back to you. Thank you again for the awesome response time, and for following your heritage....Hopefully the Baron will appreciate your dedication as well! Over and out.... David Stambler (talk) 08:25, 13 May 2014 (UTC)


 * @Dodger67 - Well, the Baron has spoken, and gave me a description here, and also a clarification on the name and title of the page - The Barony of Preston and Prestonpans is a Scottish feudal barony in East Lothian. Once a title attached to land ownership, Scottish feudal baronies are deemed properties in their own right and can now be transferred independent of the land. For most of its history it was referred to as the Barony of Preston and Prestonpans, but as of 1830 the names were unified into one free barony, the Barony of Preston. I've added this to the top of the page and hopefully we are good to go!  Let me know if this succeeds in hitting the mark, and thanks again!David Stambler (talk) 17:00, 13 May 2014 (UTC)


 * @David Stambler - Take a look at Barony of Preston and Prestonpans, well done! I have linked the new article in the list at Scottish feudal barony - you might be able to find other relevant articles that could be linked. BTW you'll notice a few WP:Redlinks in the article that are just waiting for someone to write them - if you're interested... ;) If you can find a few relevant out of copyright images (more than 100 years old) that could be added to the article that would certainly help dress up the page a bit. The Barony surely has a coat of arms - if you can find a good example we can ask the WP:Graphics Lab to create a suitable illustration. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:09, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

@Dodger67 - Excellent... the baron will be pleased! I've asked him for the coat of arms and any images he might have, and I'll let you know what turns up. Again, many thanks for all your efforts!

Template:Did you know nominations/The 1949 Sun Bowl Controversy, David Showell
Dodger67, I was wondering whether you'd be interested in working on this DYK nomination, since you did some work on it at AfC. There are a few issues that need to be addressed before it can pass, but the nominator, I am One of Many, has not responded in the two weeks since notification, and the talk-page notice has just been archived. These are mostly sourcing issues, which need to be settled before the DYK can pass; however, if they are not addressed, we'll have to reject it at some point, which would be unfortunate. Thank you for your consideration. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:27, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * @BlueMoonset, sorry about not responding on my talk page. I believe both articles were likely the product of a class project.  I think they are pretty good articles, but they do a bit more sourcing, but the sources are not easily accessed as you can see from looking at the articles.  I'll see what I can do in the next week, but I'm not especially optimistic. I am One of Many (talk) 03:44, 14 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I appreciate the response now, I am One of Many. As it's your nomination, if you don't think it can meet the DYK sourcing requirements, then you can withdraw it or see if someone else is willing to take over. Also, if one of the articles can make it but one can't, then it's easy enough to only run the one that is well-sourced: we can even use the same hook, but unbold the article that isn't sufficiently sourced. I'll post on the nomination template that you're working on it, so it doesn't close prematurely. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:17, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm going to check my university library in the next few days to see if I an get access to some of the articles cited. If I can't by this weekend and I can't fix at least one of them, then I will withdraw one or both. I am One of Many (talk) 05:03, 14 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm begging off here, I know nothing about the subjects(s) except what's written in the articles. I was just the AFC reviewer who aproved the draft and then BOLDly split it into two articles. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:21, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Autosizing images
Hi Roger. FYI I reverted the edit you thanked me for as it did not seem to work. The 150px parameter included overrides personal default image sizes and without it those headshots are huge on my screen (and I don't want all my thumbnails to be tiny). Helen Online  06:51, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * @Helen The thanks was really for putting a stop to the dumbest edit war I've seen in a long time, sorry the solution didn't work. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:01, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks, but that was actually a really minor job, I've cleaned up much bigger referencing issues than that. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:08, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Rosalie Muller Wright Pakenham
It does have inline citations. It uses a direct numbered parenthetical numbered format, rather than the normal footnote links, but that is acceptable also. Any clear form of referencing is equally acceptable.  DGG ( talk ) 01:08, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Your request at AFCH-Rewrite
Just a FYI: From what I can tell, Theo likes to put a tag/release number on the thread once it's been accepted for a specific release. As such I removed the tag number at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation/Helper script/Rewrite. If you disagree, please feel free to revert my change. Hasteur (talk) 12:59, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

A fix for that title blacklist problem...
Dear Roger: There's an interesting thread at Administrators' noticeboard/Archive262 about the shortage of new admins this year. Seeing your post at the reviewer help desk made me wonder why you aren't an admin. You are an active and long established editor, with a good record, and you work in areas where the tools would be useful. I notice that you were considering it at one time; are you still? It seems the admin core could use some help and are on the lookout for good candidates. So far, I've just been doing a few odds and ends like deleting G13's and copyvios and comparing deleted versions of articles with new drafts, etc., but I figure that anything I do frees up a more experienced admin for advanced tasks. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 13:44, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


 * @Hi Anne, thanks for the vote of confidence! I will do it - but not right now. I have university exams in a few weeks. Remind me in mid June, when I have a few weeks off - then you're welcome to subject my WP corpus to the RfA inquisition. Meanwhile I'll look for a second from WP:WikiProject Disability regulars. (I'm one of the founders of the project.) Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:51, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Great! I look forward to supporting you.  &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 14:55, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

DYK for 1949 Sun Bowl controversy
— Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:34, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

DYK for David Showell
— Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:35, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Please add your voice to the request for reverse of deletion
Please see my note here, regarding the deletion of a simple article on an historically important meteorologist whose work is of continuing interest, and whose name is attached to a "named phenomena" which has an article at Wikipedia, see. I was at the very moment addressing your citation concerns (which belie a lack of experience with the NCAR and with meteorologic citation—NCAR are not self-publications, but gathered, staff-edited compilations of staff scientific work, see below), when this Admin deleted the page out from under me. I ask that this action be reversed, so that this revised page I created can stand. Here following is the revised content. NOTE, PLEASE IGNORE THE FIRST FOUR APPEARING CITATIONS; WIKIPEDIA IS PICKING UP ON CITATIONS FROM ABOVE THAT ARE NOT RELEVANT TO THIS TALK SECTION. Thank you. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 20:51, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Leprof 7272 There is no need for a complicated motivation to get the draft back. A "G13" deletion is a "housekeeping" action done to clear out abandoned drafts - these deletions are reversed on request without debate. See WP:REFUND/G13 to request undeletion. (BTW I removed the copy of the article you pasted here, it's almost never a good idea to do that.) Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 21:19, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


 * TY for whatever attention you paid to have this reversed. Article removal was understandable, just needed you to appreciate the work that had gone in, before interruption, to make the submission viable. One cannot afford wasted work.  TY again, and best wishes in your editing. Let me know if I might ever be of any (academic, scholarly) assistance, esp. of the scientific variety.  Le Prof  Leprof 7272 (talk) 22:59, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Ultraattenuation
I found the equation Nimur was looking for and added a reference at your question. --Tardis (talk) 05:05, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Patriarchs
I have responded as nominator to your comment at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:The Patriarchal Code with a conditional withdrawal. Your concept is fair. Fiddle  Faddle  09:33, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Mpumalanga/Eastern Transvaal
In reference to this edit - I don't have an issue with the edit, since the former name of the province isn't really relevant to the article. But you might be interested to know that the province was actually established as "Eastern Transvaal" in 1994, and then renamed to "Mpumalanga" in 1995 (Act 44 of 1995). - htonl (talk) 10:09, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
 * @htonl - What would we do without your knowledge of such details - you realize that we can never allow quit from WP editing! :) Perhaps a mention in the History section would be appropriate? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:32, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Native Son (American Band) article
Thank you for your input ...I think it might just be wiser to do an article on the Bass player Bobby Watson...there are many credible sources for this guy and he is the only one in the band that does not have a wiki article...

Appreciate you once again...oh one more thing...would you be kind enough to school me on how to put those reference numbers after the information...you know the ones with the little bubble that pops up...

Have a great night... poekneegurlPoekneegurl (talk) 02:06, 9 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Good morning Poekneegurl. I'll get onto this in a few hours, just need to run a few errands first. Luckily I'm not working today so I have lots of time. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 05:46, 9 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Poekneegurl, sorry I didn't get around to your issue today. Have you looked at WP:REFB yet? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:41, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Franck Vogel
Hi Roger, thanks for your feedback. Since the photographer is not that know outside of France I shortened the text. I wrote the French version and it was accepted https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franck_Vogel Let me know if I need to change something else. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tama969 (talk • contribs) 15:27, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Why does this company deserve a Wikipedia article
RE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:CompassQuote_Insurance_Services_LLC Thanks for reviewing my article for submission. It got declined, and you commented that there are half a bazillion insurance companies in the world and asked what makes this one stand out. If you read some of the references, they may help answer your question. The references are secondary sources. They're not the Wall St. Journal, but are major industry publications that are important sources of business news and information to those in the insurance field. Others are local news sources. The editors of these publications--the industry publications are national--thought this business was worth profiling, and in one case, devoting a cover story to. The company is unusual because while there other online insurance companies, almost all (if not all) of the others require contact with an agent in order for the customer to learn the deep details of how various plans work and what they cost. This one has a quoting engine that answers those questions on the website. It's kind of like a Kayak (travel site) for insurance. It has a "pitchless approach" (in the words of a secondary source)because it provides a broad set of information without the sales pressure or upselling common to the industry.

Also, the online business model itself is well outside the norm for the life insurance industry, which mainly relies on traditional cold calling and door-to-door selling. Learning how a successful online insurance business works may not be interesting to you, but it is to the readers of these magazines, some of whom may be thinking of leaving the traditional workspace and starting a company of their own.

The secondary sources explain why this company is worth profiling. They do not answer your other question about whether it is worthy of a Wikipedia article.

You're the judge, and this is my first Wikipedia article, but I'd like to do more, and I'd like to offer an opinion, even though I am new. Wikipedia is not only more up-to-date than a traditional encyclopedia, and it not only offers a broader range of subjects, such as pop culture figures. It also distinguishes itself by offering articles on local topics. For example, I contributed to an article about a former Seattle-area lighthouse that never in a million years would have made it into a traditional encyclopedia. Should it be on Wikipedia? I certainly think so. The information is valuable to the subset of people who see it or go there, or who have in the past. And I think the same is true for businesses that are judged to be important within an industry, as this one is, even if its fame has not spread more than the distance of a lighthouse beacon.

If you think it's possible for me to make changes and resubmit in a format you would accept, please tell me what to do and I'll try to do it. If you think it's hopeless, well, I guess that's useful information about Wikipedia. (JustSpring (talk) 23:29, 13 June 2014 (UTC))


 * Hi JustSpring - What you need to do is take the explanation of why the company is notable that you have written here (its unique features) and incorporate it into the article. Make it clear how this company is different from the rest of the herd. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:10, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Terra Prime is not asphalt
Hi,

Firstly, thanks for the quick review. I am currently working on development of a Prime Coat under University of Texas at Austin and noticed that Wikipedia lacks a lot about prime coats, usage, environmental effects, new developed alternatives or replacements. This was invented recently and noteworthy to be on Wikipedia. It is not an advertisement or so. I am planning to add at least two more articles, one is about the general Prime Coats and another is about MC-30. Please help me to enrich Wikipedia.

I am a newbie here, but trying hard. Please show me the way to get the article approved.

The draft is here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Terra_Prime_%28asphalt%29). This materials are alternative to bitumen based or asphalts materials, and I don't know how the title of the document became Terra Prime (asphalt). But it is Eco-friendly water-based polymer. Abesuzek (talk) 17:15, 13 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Abesuzek - I've removed the "(asphalt)" from the title for you - It is now at Draft:Terra Prime. I'd recommend that you discuss the article with the folks at WP:WikiProject Engineering, they would be able to give you guidance specifically relevant to the topic. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:15, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback!
Hi Dodger67, your feedback was really helpful, have taken your points on board and have made another draft attempt. If it's still not right, no dramas - it's all part of the learning experience! Will welcome any further feedback, cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlfieTieu (talk • contribs) 04:46, 14 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi AlfieTieu - It's looking much better now! You've shown that the subject has media coverage in his own right separately from the group and the additional information also helps. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:25, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Oh great - thanks for your guidance Dodger67, I'm glad to hear your positive response! I've since resubmitted the page (in late June) but the article appears to still be pending. Do you know if it's likely to be reviewed for creation soon? Or, if there's anything further I can do? Thanks once again.

i am trying to publish a new article but it get refused
my original article was in html only and i don't know what to do to make it compatible with wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gonzales Cenelia (talk • contribs) 22:30, 13 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Gonzales Cenelia - It's all a learning experience - I've been through many. Now that you've read WP:What Wikipedia is not, you'll hopefully have better luck with your next draft. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:32, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Edgewater Towers page Draft:Edgewater Towers
Hi Dodger67,

The above page was rejected because it was not supported by reliable sources. I am the Chair of the Service Company of the building and I have a great deal of personal knowledge regarding the building. If you could let me know what facts are not supported by adequate sources, I will try to find a source to support the facts or I will amend the article accordingly.

Thanks, Sym Kohn EdgewaterTowers (talk) 15:19, 15 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi EdgewaterTowers - You were looking at the wrong page. You had an outdated copy of the draft on your user page - I have replaced it with a link to the correct draft page at Draft:Edgewater Towers. You will find my review comment, together with other information and various useful links, at the top of the draft page. BTW Your username is "illegal". An editor's username may never be similar to that of a company, place or organization. See WP:Username for guidance on how to change your username to something "neutral". Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:39, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Pallium India page
Hi Roger, thanks for your comments on my page on Pallium India. I have made changes, I would appreciate it greatly if you could take a look at it and let me know if I did it right. Jeenman (talk) 06:41, 15 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Congratulations Jeenman. The changes you made were sufficient to get the article accepted, so what would you like to write about next? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:49, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

The Spoke Article
Hi there, any help with my submission. I added an additional reference that can show it's origination.

Is there anything I can do to get this up here? I would like to ensure it is correct in this list, and links accordingly as well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_student_newspapers_in_Canada — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qbattersby (talk • contribs) 18:15, 16 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Qbattersby - You need to actually read the review, it says absolutely nothing about "origination", whatever that means.
 * You need to prove that someone who has no connection to the college actually cares that the student paper exists. You do this by citing a completely independent publication (meaning one with no connection to the college, such as a national mainstream newspaper or magazine) has written more than just a passing mention about the student newspaper. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:43, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

The Chelsea Residences
Hi, I've got some questions about your comments regarding the draft of the Chelsea Residences that you've nominated for speedy deletion, and that you've denied the Articles for Creation nomination of. You said "This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia." Can you point me to which parts you feel that way about? Everything in the lede and in the announcement sections is hard facts. The design section includes some descriptive detail about the features of the building and about the number and size of units available. Is that what is problematic? You also state "Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established." Three sources include two of the three largest national newspapers in the Philippines, neither of which was produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. Is this not sufficient? Thanks. I&#39;m Tony Ahn (talk) 18:35, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The article was speedily deleted even though I contested it (not even for the reasons you enumerated), but I'm planning on having it restored to my user space to work on, so I'd still appreciate the feedback. I&#39;m Tony Ahn (talk) 19:06, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Contribution has been reviewed and rejected twice...
Hi there Dodger67,

I see you were the last person to review my contribution on Mac in a Sac. It was rejected the first time as I had only referenced the company's website, so pretty understandable. However, I then went to review it and added in 6 new references from Google, bloggers and outdoor websites (third party citations). It has now been rejected again stating the same reasons for rejection. I am now really confused and don't see what else I can add to make this contribution "worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia".

Please help! This is the link to it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mac_in_a_Sac

Any advice would be much appreciated. I am new to Wikipedia and am finding it quite difficult to use.

Thanks,

Ashley — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashcarden (talk • contribs) 13:27, 13 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Ashcarden, I will go through it with closer attention tomorrow, meanwhile I'd like to suggest you take a good look at WP:IRS. Basically the company's own website, the websites of sellers and personal blogs are all no good for establishing the WP:Notability of the topic. You need to look for articles in mainstream news or magazines. Perhaps there are articles about the company in business news sources, or product reviews in outdoor/hiking/lifestyle magazines. Depending on what sources you find you might be more successful shifting the article's focus from the product to the company. Hope this helps. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:41, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Roger (Dodger67), thanks for the reply. I will be sure to keep this in mind. Thanks again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashcarden (talk • contribs) 08:39, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

She should have predicted that, too!
Seems a shame to delete it when we could play with her  Fiddle   Faddle  16:28, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Tempting... but you should have declined as a blatant advert. No time for messing around with noobs, and not really ethical either. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:33, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, I declined it as something else. It was redeemable, with work :) Either way, though, this format was useless. Fiddle   Faddle  16:41, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * @User:Timtrent - Sometimes only WP:TNT can fix a draft. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:47, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Gotta catch 'em all! Fiddle   Faddle  10:20, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Administrate article
Hi Roger,

My article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Administrate_%28software%29 was rejected on the basis that it read more like an advertisement. This could certainly be the case as it's describing "software" made by a "company" of the same name! My problem is two-fold: 1. This is my first article on Wikipedia 2. I'm writing about a commercial entity. So I understand my intent could be viewed as suspect! I am in no way affiliated with this company, but I'm a user of the software and would like to make an entry all the same. So I'd appreciate any specific advice.

Could you please point me to the exact parts that read like an advertisement, that don't seem neutral, or that require more sources? Thanks in advance!

Loriwagoner (talk) 10:59, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

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How do I get conflict of interest notation removed?
Still looking for an answer to this. I wrote a Wiki page for musician Eliot Lewis using an account that belonged to Mr. Lewis' tour manager. I don't know Mr. Lewis and am not affiliated with him at all, and only used the account because his tour manager said he'd already entered bio information and discography. Mr. Lewis and his manager were not involved in writing the page, I was not paid for any work, and did all my own research. I'm a writer and editor with more than 20 years of experience in newspapers, magazines, nonprofit and corporate communications, and I understand the importance of neutrality in a vehicle like Wikipedia. Given these circumstances, is there a way to get the conflict of interest notation on the page removed? Could I move the page to my own account? Or can an editor point out specific sentences or information that seems bias and let me either rework or remove it?

Also, I noticed there's a notation on the Eliot Lewis page for "speedy deletion." Is this because of the apparent conflict of interest, or is there another issue with the article?

Thanks for your help!

Righttrack (talk) 01:22, 21 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Righttrack - I think the best option would be to post a brief explanation of your connection - just as you did here - to the article's Talk page - Talk:Eliot Lewis - then the COI tag can be removed from the article. Just remember when you remove it to state in the edit note that you've explained the situation on the Talk page - "See Talk" is a generally accepted way to do so.
 * There is no trace in the page history of a Speedy deletion tag ever having been on the page. Hope this helps.
 * While you're on the topic try to solve the shortage of references problem too, there are entire paragraphs without any citations. The requirement for referencing is particularly strict for articles about living people as real harm can occur if unsourced controversial statements and claims appear in such an article. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:24, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Draft:Smart BASIC
Hello Dodger!

What are the reasons why my article about "smart BASIC" was declined?

Thank you for help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Baobabus (talk • contribs) 03:20, 22 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Baobabus - Have you actually read the review yet - the pink box at the top of the page and the short explanatory note just below the box? It includes links to guides on how to fix the problem. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:08, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

I see it is stated that "This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources." My article is about programming language. It is based on documentation inside this application. This documentation is not available online and is not published in a book.

1. What is correct way to reference information relative to application which is available inside application documentation and is not available in external sources? 2. If this information will be published online - will it be enough for proper referencing?

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Baobabus (talk • contribs) 16:04, 22 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi again Baobabus - You actually need third party sources to pass the notability requirement. While you can cite the manual, help files or other documentation included in the software it will not be sufficient to get the article accepted. You need to look for articles in mainstream magazines or reputable webzines that discuss the software in some detail - review articles would be good sources. The folks at WP:WikiProject Software would be able to give you better more specific advice as they know much more about the topic than I do. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 17:00, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Defence Review
Hi. How can I help? You seem to have the structure planned, is there any section you would like me to work on or is there something I can focus on? Gbawden (talk) 07:52, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Take a look at the Talk page where I've laid out a few "to do" and source ideas. Please feel free to propose changes to the structure if you think it isn't workable. Do whatever you feel like. I'm pretty good at finding sources but I'm not that good at writing article text. Glad to have you on this project! Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:06, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * @Gbawden - so what do you think of the draft so far? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:38, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * It looks good. You could probably publish it as an article now, rather than wait. Your structure is good. The only suggestion I have is a section highlighting the key recommendations/changes proposed by the review. I will go over the draft and chip in where I can. g Gbawden (talk) 11:58, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

EU Gateway username
Dear Dodger67, you have written a comment on my talk page regarding a potential non-compliance of my username with Wikipedia's username policy. I have followed the instructions on:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Changing_username/Simple and submitted a request for a name change. Could you tell please how many days do you think I shall wait until the username change is done? also, can i still make changes and improvements in the article that I created and re-submit it for approval with the current name? thanks for your feedback. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EU Gateway (talk • contribs) 10:47, 24 June 2014 (UTC)


 * @EU Gateway - You can continue editing, when your name change is done all your edits will be allocated to the new name. The change should be done within no more than a day (or two if there is a large backlog). Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:06, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

notable only for one event
Hi thanks for your comment on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Deepika_Kurup. She is certainly notable for more than 1 event, she has won Young scientist award in 2012 and more recently this month she won the US Stockholm water prize. I have included all references in the article. Pangog200 (talk) 21:31, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Pangog200 - If it's for the same invention it is still covered as one event, rather rewrite the article to be about the invention. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 21:37, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

cheers Roger (Dodger67) - both are related to water purification but they are not the same. the first one uses solar energy and the second one uses a combination of solar and a newly developed compound. the second competition was 2 years after the first one. do you think if it makes sense to make this distinction clear in the article? Pangog200 (talk) 21:47, 21 June 2014 (UTC)


 * @Pangog200 - Yes make it really clear that there are two inventions and each was recognized with an award. Generally you also need to find good sources that talk about the inventor herself in considerable detail, rather than just the inventions and subsequent recognition. BTW, I'm going to bed now, back in about ten or so hours. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 22:05, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Roger (Dodger67), I have made the changes and corrected some other details as well. I have also added several repted online references (WSJ, Fox news etc). Please let me know if this looks okay. thanks! Pangog200 (talk) 12:51, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

AfC
Hi Dodge67. I noticed you were active at AfC and I was wondering if you could take a look at a couple articles I have submitted where I have COI on David Williams (Doctor) and Paxata. In the past it's taken over a month to get a reviewer in the queue and my submissions are usually pretty easy. CorporateM (Talk) 14:55, 29 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi CorporateM, I have accepted the doctor's biography, I trust you are able to do the finishing touches such as categories. BTW if you have a source for his birthplace and current residence please add those details, (and the relevant categories). I'm passing on the other draft as it has no obvious problems but reviewing the finer detail of the subject is a bit outside my comfort zone. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:39, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Your submission at AfC South African Legion of Military Veterans was accepted
 South African Legion of Military Veterans, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. . Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia! Fiddle  Faddle  12:58, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the  [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_talk/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=User_talk:Dodger67 help desk] .
 * If you would like to help us improve this process, please consider.


 * @User:Timtrent, thanks! This is my first G13 rescue, thus I put it up for review rather than pass it directly to mainspace by myself. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:43, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Good catch. I think you could easily have accepted it on sight, though. You're old enough and ugly enough (like me) to know your onions. Fiddle   Faddle  15:48, 29 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Except that I'm a bit biased in favour of South African Military history subjects, so the second opinion is much appreciated. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:52, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Daniel Moylan
Dear Dodger67, I've never typed an answer into a talk page before, so I'm quite apprehensive that I'll get it wrong. Anyway, here goes. I am the author of the draft article entitled 'Daniel Moylan'. I submitted it for review, but it was not accepted by the reviewer (Chris Troutman), partly because he said it was 'promotional' and flattering to its subject, and partly because it needed to better explain the Boris Island airport proposal. A later reviewer said that I needed to back up my statement that Moylan is gay. I presume that what I need to do now is to fix these perceived problems as well as I can and then re-submit the draft for approval, as if it were a new proposed article. Is that right?Segalen4 (talk) 04:07, 28 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Segalen4, yes indeed a claim about a person's sexual orientation (among other things) needs to be supported by a very strong source that reports a clear unambiguous statement from the person about his/her sexual orientation. But that's not all, you also need to consider whether the person's orientation is in fact relevant to their notability - in some countries a gay politician is practically always a topic of discussion in the press, in other countries it barely gets mentioned at all. The guideline at WP:EGRS discusses categorisation but I find the explanations there to be useful for clarifying the issue even when it's not about categories as such. Hope this helps. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:21, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * The standard for inclusion of sexual orientation needs to be that they have, themselves, been explicit about stating it, and it has been reported in a WP:RS. Otherwise we are at great pains to ignore it, even if it is an important element in their lives. Fiddle   Faddle  15:27, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
 * In this case I took the statement that Moylan is gay from his own website: http://www.danielmoylan.com/?page_id=51. Surely this would count as 'a clear unambiguous statement from the person'? Should I put in a reference to this website page? Segalen4 (talk) 23:59, 29 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes it's a clear statement, but it's not in the press. If no mainstream news source has bothered to make an issue of it, we don't either - that's what is meant by "relevant to the subject's notability". If his own website/facebook/blog etc is the only source, leave it out of the article. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:40, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

04:17:49, 1 July 2014 review of submission by Hengtian
Hengtian (talk) 04:17, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Hello Dodger67,

I am writing to you because I am not very clear on which sections of the Wikipedia page are written like an advertisement. I made some changes just now, by altering the language and deleting some content, and tried to stay in line with Wiki's policies for notability, reliability and neutrality. If you could possibly take a look at the edited version, or specify the areas of the previous version that did not pass the 'neutrality' test, I would be very thankful!

Thanks,

Ashley

Draft Suranga Nanayakkara
Hi Dodger67

Based on your comments, I have revised the article Draft:Suranga_Nanayakkara with more references...Let me know if this good enough to go.

Thanks Chandima81 (talk) 15:38, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

18:48:01, 1 July 2014 review of submission by Menonsatish5
The article was rejected, however no reasons were provided.

Satheesh Menon (talk) 18:48, 1 July 2014 (UTC)


 * The reason is given in the pink box on the User:Menonsatish5/sandbox page, exactly where the message on your talk page says it is. It was rejected because it was not an article, you have to actually write more than just the name, we review articles, not just a title. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 22:31, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

20:02:00, 30 June 2014 review of submission by JeremyMalies
I believe the article is adequately referenced from external sources and is not commercially assertive. JeremyMalies (talk) 20:02, 30 June 2014 (UTC)


 * It seems clear to me that you have not actually read my review comment. There are whole paragraphs without any references. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 22:47, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

02:25:23, 1 July 2014 review of submission by Bhamidik
I am not asking for a re-review, please can you tell me how can I make it good to be submitted? Article link is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Manda_AnanthaKrishna.

Bhamidik (talk) 02:25, 1 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Read the review again and this time actually click on the linked words and phrases, they lead to pages with instructions and advice to fix the problem. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 22:51, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Aubrey Jacobs
Hi Roger. Could you please advise what is the appropriate action for this largely unsourced orphan article? The only source that seems to work is a primary source. I picked it up as the creator posted some other original research which has been tagged once as unsourced and removed twice by other editors. Helen Online  14:08, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Helen, I took just a quick look at it, I think just take it to AFD as a non-notable bio. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 22:46, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * OK thanks, I hope I did it correctly (created and listed Articles for deletion/Aubrey Jacobs and notified the creator). Helen  Online  09:25, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Articles for creation / Alan Amory
Dear Reviewer After your comments in January 2014, I added proof that Alan Amory is an esteemed researcher. I did resubmit the article then, but also did it again on 1 July 2014. Can you please let me know if I need to add anything else and if the article is still to be reviewed again? Thank you Kind regards Retha Bosman Rethabosman (talk) 07:47, 7 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Retha, I have restored the review history and submitted it for another review. You should take a look at the WP:PROF guidelines for the notability of academics. I see your draft is lacking independent references about Amory - has any mainstream news media, magazine or journal ever written about him? If you need further assistance I'm sure the members of WP:WikiProject South Africa would be willing to help you. I'm going to be travellling during the next day or two - from the chilly Free State to the icy Karoo! Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:10, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Dear Roger

Thank you for the response. Do I understand correctly that the article is still going to be reviewed anyway?

Enjoy the Karoo - it is my favourite place. Kind regards Retha Rethabosman (talk) 09:22, 7 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi again Retha, Yes I submitted it for another review on your behalf, in one of your previous edits you somehow managed to delete all the existing review templates, I put them back and resubmitted it. I found a brief bio of Amory, from a source outside of UJ - http://www.aace.org/conf/edmedia/speakers/archived/amory.htm - hope it's useful. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:36, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Dear Roger Thanks for all your help - much appreciated. Kind regards Retha Rethabosman (talk) 09:43, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

15:13:33, 7 July 2014 review of submission by Davidroxdel0
{{SAFESUBST:Void|

The Author of the alternative investments book, Stephen Todd Walker, has been informed about this Wikipedia page and has given his consent for me to publish this page about him.

Davidroxdel0 (talk) 15:13, 7 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Davidroxdel0, the subject's consent is not neccessary. The rules governing biographies of living people requires that only previously published information may be included in such articles thus privacy issues are avoided. I see you have written a lead as I suggested in the review I did. If you're happy with the text please resubmit it - the blue button in the pink previous review template. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:44, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Disability style guide
I am very grateful to you for creating the style guide draft, directing my attention to it, and for all the work done on it. I just want to give you a heads-up that an admin has recently proposed possibly issuing me a 6-month ban. The reasons are pretty silly, but just in case it actually happens, I want to ask you to please continue the work without me, as there aren't many others doing so. If it's still not in a presentable state after 6 months, I'll be happy to start working again. Muffinator (talk) 07:39, 8 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Muffinator, I've been busy with university exams and then family committments, and an AFC backlog drive. It's on my to-do list when I get back into my normal routine, hopefully by this weekend. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:50, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:IQTELL
Hi, Thanks for your comments on the above mentioned page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:IQTELL) Can you please me a bit further.

This is web, iOS and Android app. It is covered and mentioned by leading tech bloggers. There are usually no other references or citations for similar apps.

I noticed other pages, (e.g., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Things_(application)) which have been approved with similar citations; this is just one example.

Thanks for your help, and really looking forward to your help.

Sjf1977 (talk) 11:06, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

11:11:42, 8 July 2014 review of submission by Sjf1977
Hope you can help. The post is indented to provide facts about the apps capabilities and functionality.

I have read the guidelines and seems to have noticed similar wiki pages from other apps. Hope you can help me as I'd like to edit the article but having re-read it several times, not sure what to remove and what language to change to make it more factual.

thanks for your help Sjf1977 (talk) 11:11, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Leaflet For Wikiproject Disability At Wikimania 2014
Hi, You asked on the Wikimania Project Leaflets talk page regarding the next step. First of all, the deadline for leaflet submissions was 1st July. That said, the leaflets have not gone to print yet. As such I can confirm that your leaflet will still show up at Wikipedia. What happens next is that our designers will go and design the leaflet. After it is designed, the copy will be signed off and the leaflet will be taken to print. Hope that helps. Adikhajuria (talk) 16:53, 9 July 2014 (UTC)


 * @Adikhajuria, thanks. I didn't notice any mention of a deadline, hope it will get included anyway. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:04, 9 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I can confirm that it will be included. They are going to be taking the leaflets to the printers on Monday 14th July. Adikhajuria (talk) 16:11, 10 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks Adikhajuria, We're a small project and this opportunity to recruit new members is much appreciated. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:17, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Draft:Alan Amory page
Thanks, Roger, I am working on finding some newspaper articles on him. I will let you know if I need more help. Enjoy the Karoo. Rethabosman (talk) 06:45, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

"Who are these people and how is any of this relevant to a South African based company?"
The content and corresponding citation clearly state who "these people" are and the relevance to Nandos is readily apparent. I will also post this to the Talk page. Thanks.--Soulparadox (talk) 13:13, 12 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Replied at the article talk page. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:53, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

06:49:46, 17 July 2014 review of submission by Jonkmanskas
Further to my previous message to the reviewer. I received the following message from Wikipedia  QUOTE: 120.192.249.31 left a message on your talk page in "Hello". Due to your use of open proxies to insert hate speech into articles, your local law enforcement has been notified and criminal charges will be file... UNQUOTE I have not used any hate speech and suspect that this message is a hoax. However, I am concerned that the content of my article has been altered by hackers, thereby rendering it unsuitable.

Jonkmanskas (talk) 06:49, 17 July 2014 (UTC)


 * The message from 120.192.249.31 has been confirmed as a hoax and the IP has been blocked, so nothing to worry about. I checked the history of your draft article - only you, myself and other reviewers familiar to me, have edited the page, so no problem there either. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:37, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

06:29:20, 17 July 2014 review of submission by Jonkmanskas
The author discussed in my article was a well-known and respected person in South Africa and Europe. Her books have been (and are still) read by many (I'm talking about thousands) in many countries. It would appear that there is a renewed interest in her books, locally as well as internationally (as you can see on Google and other websites). There are also renewed plans to reissue some of her books. I realise Google is a cheap thrill and I did not expect that those links would serve as references. However, please guide me on how to provide the references that Wikipedia requires. I have most of the books that De Ferrieres wrote and I have contact with her family who inherited all her possessions and photos + consent to place images on Wikipedia. I gathered most of the information in my article from her autobiography (titled Al bruis die Jordaan) which she published after her return from Europe. All the facts and statements come from her autobiography and from discussions I had with persons who were children at the time when she became well-known. I can assure Wikipedia that this is a relevant topic that will be appreciated by the public. Currently, there is nothing on the internet about the author, only her books. Concerning citing the books, indeed, I will do that, but am confused by the template that pops up in the editing document when citing a book. There are no guidelines as to what information is required in the boxes. Is there somewhere where I can gain info on that matter? Or, since you are South African, is there perhaps a way in which I may contact you so that we could discuss the procedure?

Jonkmanskas (talk) 06:29, 17 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Jonkmanskas To cite a book use the "Cite book" option and fill in as much of the information as you can. It will end up looking like this: . If you don't have a bit of information leave it blank, someone might be able to add it in future. By the way, ISBN only came into use during the 1970s so earlier publications won't have them.


 * You can use her autobiography for the basic facts about her life. You can't use it for opinions about her or her work. The autobiography is also not usable to prove that she is notable - for that you need completely independent sources that discuss her and her work in some depth - look for magazine or news articles or books by other authors that discuss her and her work. This is the main barrier your draft still needs to get over.


 * You cannot use anything that was personally told to you by anyone - all information in Wikipedia articles must be from previously published sources - interviews with her family and associates are completely useless - sorry. In fact it is actually a problem that you even know those people at all, because now you have knowledge that cannot be used, which complicates your writing. But we can overcome this, I can help you to "filter" your writing as I know absolutely nothing about de Ferrières, so I can go through the text closely and ask you questions such as "who said that?", "where did you find that?", "how do you know this?". This way we might be able to produce an acceptable article. However if your only published sources about her are the books she wrote then we're in trouble - so go look for those news or magazine articles - her relatives might even have kept cuttings.


 * Another problem in the current draft is the many claims that she or her work was "important" or "great" etc. All such opinions must be from third party independent published sources. Your own opinion of her is irrelevant, you must write neutrally and factually.


 * I'm afraid this is quite a challenge, are you up for it? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 08:13, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Flags
No problem at all, I have been cleaning up the article and the exact status of the flag only became clear towards the end. Quite interesting actually. Helen Online  13:04, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

16:13:18, 19 July 2014 review of submission by 174.48.96.148
174.48.96.148 (talk) 16:13, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi there,

My article for creation for Geoffrey C. Smith was recently declined. Can you perhaps provide any insight as to what the issue may be so that I can make any prompt corrections that need to be completed? Any input would be much appreciated!


 * Read the review at the top of the Draft page and follow the links provided. You need to use proper inline citations because your draft is about a living person. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:34, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

14:55:35, 21 July 2014 review of submission by Tayetaye
I was wondering if you'd be able/willing to rereview this page and give any feedback or tips for betterment. Thanks.

Tayetaye (talk) 14:55, 21 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Tayetaye, do you have a question or request for me? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:27, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

AIRCA
Hi, I had sent you earlier an e-mail using the link on the left. But here it is again: Thanks again for your offer to help. You are most welcome to change whatever you like! I was also surprised why not more farming stuff is on wiki, but I guess some of us are not very IT savvy and afraid of the work involved in getting something out there.

Best regards from Nairobi and thanks again, Marita


 * Just checked my email - got it! Nairobi - I'm jeasous! Wish I could get there, it's horribly cold right now in South Africa and I hate cold weather! Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:57, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Nairobi 15 Celsius this morning and a grey and miserable day. Coast is warmer but has a few security problem nowadays... You should come visit one day - saw on your page that you may have limited mobility, but there is a few lodges etc that cater for tourist with different needs. My husband and I were seriously thinking of opening a safari business in that niche, and one day we may still do it.

Hi! I have not even understood how this talk page business works, and have posted the following answer on mine, but am not sure whether you get notified when I write on mine, so here again: Good morning, thanks for your message. I'm afraid there is nothing (yet) in the mainstream news. The only AIRCA references that I have which are not by any of my members is the one from FAO and the one from GFAR (Global Forum for Agriculture Research). The one on Sci Dev is probably indeed the copy of a press release of one of our members. Another one I found is from Papua New Guinea http://www.nari.org.pg/node/228 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marita Dieling (talk • contribs) 07:46, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

22:15:05, 24 July 2014 review of submission by JeremyMalies
Re article about 'Traka plc' - have removed the 'multiple vague assertions' which the reviewer highlighted in the previous draft. Have increased number of citations to reputable trade journals that support the statements being made. Have shortened article generally. Am mentioning fewer employees by name. I hope the article now reads much less like an advert. JeremyMalies (talk) 22:15, 24 July 2014 (UTC) JeremyMalies (talk) 22:15, 24 July 2014 (UTC)JeremyMalies

A barnstar for you!
Thanks! I'd like to give you a little advice, now that the article is "launched" - you need to take a step back and let it develop as other editors find sources and change the content accordingly. Neither you personally nor AIRCA have a right to control the article content, see WP:OWN. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a vehicle for promotion. If you have some spare time you might like to take a look at WP:WikiProject Agriculture and join in the general editing a little distance away from the AIRCA article. (BTW, I've just created a redirect for the acronym so that it links to the article.) Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:39, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

09:52:32, 28 July 2014 review of submission by CFamal2014
Hi Dodger67, my article was rejected, however I already made alterations according to your comment. So, I'm kindly requesting a review, since I really would like to see this article included in the wikipedia. If anything else needs to be changed, please let know, and I'll do it. Thank you so much, 'cause I am new in Wikipedia and am finding it a little difficult to use. CFamal2014 09:50, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

CFamal2014 (talk) 09:52, 28 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi CFamal2014 - You have not actually fixed the problem. The issue is that the draft has no independent reliable sources such as articles in mainstream news or magazines, or the scientific literature. All the references you currently have are from companies and institutions that are directly involved in the project. Wikipedia needs to see that someone who has no connection to the subject at all (such as a journalist or academic) has written about it in significant detail. You could look for articles about the project in engineering or transport technology magazines or academic journals - perhaps business news sources may also have some useful articles. You can get more specialist advice from WP:WikiProject Engineering or WP:WikiProject Transport - someone there might know of good sources for the article.
 * When you have added references from such sources please resubmit the draft for another review - use the blue button in the pink review box at the top of the page. (I fixed the box for you - a starting bracket was accidentally deleted which "broke" the template.) Hope this helps Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:43, 28 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi again! Thanks for your answer...I'll check if there's something about this project on independent sources, and then I'll make the new alterations. Thanks again for your help (I really have a lot to learn in wikipedia!) :) CFamal2014 11:44, 28 July 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.23.102.92 (talk)

From Nitinkirloskar_forbesmarshall
Hi Dodger67... Our article was declined by you sometime back. Based on the suggestions received by many experts from wikipedia chat forum, we have made all the changes & have got comments from one of them that the article now looks fine. Can you please review this & accept it, so that it can be made live. Nitinkirloskar forbesmarshall (talk) 10:43, 28 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Nitinkirloskar forbesmarshall - I would prefer not review it again. It is better that a different reviewer does the next review, so that the draft does not become distorted by the opinions and biases of a single reviewer returning to it multiple times. It is correctly submitted so someone will review it in due course. (BTW, please post new topics to the bottom of talk pages, as they run in chronological order.) Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:02, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

AFC reminder
I happened to see that you declined an AFC over ref formatting in 2013. That's practically ancient history, but I thought I'd take a minute to say that's technically not a reason for declining submissions just in case you hadn't already come to this conclusion since then (and maybe just a little bit in the hope that any talk page stalkers would also learn this ;-). If you're interested, see WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing instructions for details. Otherwise, no worries: it was a long time ago. Happy editing, WhatamIdoing (talk) 15:30, 28 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Indeed a long time and many thousands of reviews ago. I certainly hope the quality of my reviewing has improved since then. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:36, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

13:20:16, 28 July 2014 review of submission by JayareUK
Hello Dodger67. Thanks for your very quick review - I only submitted on Wednesday. I understand your point and it is something I thought about during drafting. There are alternative titles but 'SkyWrap' appealed to me because it is short and likely to be the search term used by someone looking for information on the subject. SkyWrap is a brand name but like nylon, hoover, kleenex and so on, the name has come to represent the product. Other possible titles: 'Wrapped cable' is not specific to the technology; 'wrapped cables on overhead power lines' or 'wrapped fibre optic cables on overhead power lines' are very long-winded and would not be used as a search term; 'OPAC' or 'Optical Attached Cable' is the best generic description of the technology but is almost entirely unused outside a few individuals and unlikely to be used as a search term. 'Wrap-on cables', 'helically-applied cables', 'GWWOP', 'attached cables' are all names that are used here and there but not with the regularity of SkyWrap.

I would prefer to stick with 'SkyWrap' but if you insist then I think it would have to become 'wrapped cables on overhead power lines'. Is this going to meet your requirement? JayareUK (talk) 13:20, 28 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi JayareUK, I think it may be useful for you to discuss the issue with other editors who have experience in the subject area over at WP:WikiProject Telecommunications, they might be able to help resolve the article title and scope problem. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 18:41, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

05:43:00, 29 July 2014 review of submission by Drdornadulasundarram
Drdornadulasundarram (talk) 05:43, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

14:27:00, 29 July 2014 review of submission by Gerald A Wiggins
Gerald A Wiggins (talk) 14:27, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

I would like to know if this article is any better than the one that was created..What can I do to make it more acceptable?

Gerald A. Wiggins (born April 8, 1967 in Harlem, New York. An is an American music executive, entrepreneur, and film producer.

Biography

Gerald Anthony Wiggins was born in Harlem, New York to Gertrude Wiggins. Gerald new from a young age that music was what he wanted to do with his life. Wiggins is the youngest of six children. He attended middle school and high school in Harlem New York Until attending Columbia University in New York, NY in 1987. In New York Wiggins worked as a security officer to pay tuition while attended classes at the prestigious school. Wiggins began his music conquest in the early 1990's as a manager and promoter for the famous Sweet Waters venue for it's record industry night in New York working alongside mentor Gene Lewis.

Wiggins cites the universal sounds of Motown as his main influence. Wiggins was once quoted saying "Music saved my life, it gave me something to work towards". Wiggins has been influenced by such acts as Micheal Jackson, The Beatles, Paul McCartney, Marvin Gaye and Barry Gordy. While attending Columbia University Wiggins soon there after realized that music was what he wanted to do. Soon after with close friends Wiggins formed the group the "Funk Children" putting out the record "El Kaboki".

True Life Entertainment Inc.

Soon After Gerald realized that there was more to music then just putting out records. As a product of Harlem Wiggins knew there was more, thus inspiring the creation of True Life Entertainment Inc. A company founded by Wiggins and business partner "Edmund Packhaber". In the Spring if 2006 True Life Entertainment Released the title "Secret Ellington". Secrets was a project developed on the unreleased material of Jazz Legend and Icon "Duke Ellington".

Wiggins Music Group Distribution Inc.

In 2006 Wiggins Co-Founded Wiggins Media Group Worldwide, (WMGW) Inc. Wiggins's Production and Distribution credits include releases from artists such as The Jazz Crusaders, Duke Ellington, Grover Washington Jr., Bishop David G. Evans and Legendary hip hop artists Just Ice, KRS-1, and Keith Murray, as well as being Executive Producer for releases from Rock and Roll Hall of Fame members Ben E. King, Martha Reeves, and Solomon Burke.


 * The text above has no references, the version at Gerald A Wiggins also has no references. Without references it will never be acceptable - see Referencing for beginners for guidance. You also need to read WP:Autobiography, WP:Notability and WP:COI before continuing. If after reading these guides and policies you decide to go ahead, and after you have added suitable references, please submit the page for review by placing the code: at the top of the page. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:50, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

08:21:22, 31 July 2014 review of submission by British Wireless
Hi Roger, I presume that you are the person who reviewed my article, although this is not clear. Where do I find your review comments? Sorry, I am new to all this and am finding it a bit confusing. I could really do with your help to get it into shape and would value some assistance. British Wireless (talk) 08:21, 31 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi British Wireless, the reviewis in the pink box at the top of the draft article Draft:British Wireless for the Blind Fund. Basically you need to find sources written by independent commentators (people who have no involvement with the subject - such as mainstream press journalists or historians) who have written in some depth about the fund and its activities in reliable published sources - such as mainstream newspapers, commercial or academic publishers - not vanity press or self publication, blogs, etc. There are links in the pink box to various guidelines and help pages. You might also ask WP:WikiProject Radio for some help or advice, that's where the editors with subject-specific experience hang out. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:22, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Roger, Have found your original comments now and together with the additional comments I now know what I need to do! 82.153.172.38 (talk) 09:30, 31 July 2014 (UTC)