User talk:Doingmybes

November 2021
Hello, I'm Serols. I noticed that in this edit to Hoteps, you removed content without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Serols (talk) 16:30, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to Hoteps. Your edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Repeated vandalism can result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Serols (talk) 16:30, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

I edited the information because it is not true. Just bc someone writes a book including falsehood doesn't mean it is true. This entry should be deleted bc it is not factual content. Doingmybes (talk) 16:35, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * We have what appears to be a reliable source that you disagree with. You'll need to provide equally reliable sources that refute the facts in question, and then bring your contention and your sources to the article's talk page. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!!

I intend to show that the sources are not reliable and false information should not be printed on this site. The individuals discussed in this article are living persons who have not been consulted to arrive at such opinionated and factless statements. The "sources" you have are not from anthropologists or experts.

Contentious material about a living person that is unsourced or poorly sourced should be removed immediately; do not move it to the talk page. This applies to any material related to living persons on any page in any namespace, not just article space.

Doingmybes (talk) 16:47, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

After reading the source material, the writer of this article chose to say that Hoteps are a community or sub culture when they are not. This is nothing more than a word being used in a derogatory manner. Many of the sources state that but it does not show up in the article. This is irresponsible and i have already messaged Miranda Lovett, the only person who seemed to have a background in archeology. I will discuss this matter with her regarding the errors of her article bc most of the claims are based on that. The other sources state that HOTEP is a word that has been co-opted to demean a subset of African Americans. I am not done, I will be back with more info. Doingmybes (talk) 17:05, 3 November 2021 (UTC)


 * You haven't demonstrated that the material is poorly sourced. The material in question is sourced to
 * this article in the journal Sapiens by Miranda Lovett;
 * this article on the website The Root by Damon Young;
 * this article in The New York Times by Angelica Jade Bastién;
 * this article in Salon by Matthew Sheffield; and
 * this article in Refinery29 by Sesali Bowen.
 * This is, admittedly, a list of sources that skews liberal, and thus might not present a balanced point of view of the subject. Again, you are free to open a discussion at Talk:Hoteps regarding the topic. The material is not contentious about any identifiable individual or group of individuals, and therefore does not fall under the purview of WP:BLP, but WP:NPOV does apply, and you are free to raise that issue at the talk page. But you are not free to simply remove the material because you don't like it. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:06, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Skews liberal should not be an excuse for writing falsehoods! The works you have cited are merely internet articles, i don't recognize them as scholarly. I am compiling sources that are more balanced as you say and i understand the info shouldn't be deleted. I will have more on this later but for now, i want it brought to the proper attention that this article is irresponsible at best. Doingmybes (talk) 17:19, 3 November 2021 (UTC)


 * I've marked the page for questionable neutrality. Hopefully that will start a better discussion of the topic. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 18:29, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! Doingmybes (talk) 18:55, 3 November 2021 (UTC)