User talk:Doktor Who/Archive03-Nov2006-Dec2006

Ambience sounds, ambience works
Ambient Music is an instrumental,  not rhythmic  and not melodic form that uses techniques and styles of electronic music, minimalistic (and iterative) music, chance music,  and often concrete (sampled) music; it aims to get an "atmospheric environment", a sort of sonic carpet, that can merge with environmental noises or that can be listened as a form of ambience soundtrack. At least this definition should suit the real use of the term before ravers started their dictatorship.--Dr. Who 17:27, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Ambience techno - chill out
Therefore, the so called Ambient Techno and Ambient House have nothing to do with Ambient Music. Actually, those styles are within the field of "Techno" dance music. Nevertheless, many works by KLF, The Orb, Aphex Twin and others are "pure electronic music" with no beats and drums, and many are pure ambience music, but most of their hits are Techno, a sophisticated form of techno, but nothing more. Sorry if that may annoy some hard-heads.

Electronic a (where doeas this ending vowel come from?)
Electronica is a non-sense, meaningless word, used only with regard to modern works that mix many different styles.

New Age
The term "New Age" has a bit more sense, at least New Age artists and works seem to share the same purpose, that is chill out the listener and help spiritual meditation. For this reason, New Age is hated both by religious fundamentalists ("New Age is a plan of the Anti-Christ") and by those musicians and academics that reject such kinda "yoga tool" use of music.Dr. Who 23:51, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Leaving?
So you are leaving Wikipedia just because someone else disliked your changes to the virtual memory article? If so, I would suggest re-evaluating your reasons; Wikipedia does not improve from revert wars, but argumented discussions on the talk page (WP:CON). You seem to have given up without that. Remember that long time editors aren't necessarily more authoritative than anyone else, and nobody owns Wikipedia articles. -- intgr 16:24, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I've left that article for sure. I am not leaving wikipedia for now, but I'm going to edit only few selected articles. Thank you for your edits and efforts at that article.--Dr. Who 23:20, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, fair enough I guess. -- intgr 02:07, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Jetico
(Sorry for stalking you, but) I noticed that you have Jetico on your list of new articles to create. You might want to keep in mind that Wikipedia articles on companies have to pass the scrutiny of the notability policy on companies and organizations. It seems that at least 75% of new articles (just my impression) on companies are deleted for being advertisements, or being nonnotable (not establishing their notability). Just figured it would be useful to give you a heads-up in advance. -- intgr 17:33, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Many thanks, your message is very welcome. :-) Do you know that computing company? I was very undecided, I am not really an expert on Wikipedia's policies. I am going to remove it, I was maintaining that page right now. Thx again, and cheers. --Dr. Who 17:42, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't know much about Jetico, other than having written the BestCrypt article, but the company doesn't seem recognized enough to warrant an article. In any case, see the policy I linked above, if you're thinking of starting the article. -- intgr 18:01, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I am not going to start any related article, thank you for your advice. ;)--Dr. Who 03:17, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the invite
Thanks for the invite, but I'm pretty oblivious to how Wiki works and don't know how to join the group!!! I would love to help though as Pink Floyd is my all time favorite band! (Wasakithis)
 * RE:RE --Thank you again for your interest, you are very welcome to join us! Simply add your username at the bottom of the list of participants in this way :


 * Wasakithis


 * Thanks for the help! Wasakithis 08:34, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Real dr Who
You're the communist Dr. Who with a k in your name. PINKO!--Dr who1975 04:37, 12 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I hope you were kidding about the Nazi thing. Otherwise, you didn't read my user page very well. I like Pink Floyde (who doesn't). Pinko's an outdated term for calling someone a communist (I bet I could even look it up here). Love Kraftwerk, on a related note, I also like Covenant (band) (who emulate Kraftwerk very heavily), VNV Nation, Apoptygma Berzerk, However, within the last 3 years, my faorite bands have been The Faint and The Kaiser Chiefs (whose name would make you think they were german but they are in fact quite English).--Dr who1975 04:51, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Please DO NOT remove content!!!
Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent contribution removed content from. Please be more careful when editing articles and do not remove content from Wikipedia without a good reason, which should be specified in the edit summary. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment again, please use the sandbox.

Don't do it again, please.  Gardener of Geda  | Message Me.... 18:23, 13 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I deleted cos it seemed to me that you asked. My dispute with that user regarded only the article itself. It has been my only dispute up to now. The levl of personal atack that some ppl are reaching will not be tolerated by administrators. Please do not write to me again.Dr. Who 18:30, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Once more - Please DO NOT remove content!!!
Entering "hothouse" in the Wiki search bar leads to the Greenhouse page. A user looking for the novel would then click on Greenhouse (disambiguation), where he or she would then find what they were looking for.

You are beginning to engage in what could be described as Cyberstalking behaviour. Please stop.  Gardener of Geda  | Message Me.... 20:39, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * No, I will ignore you from now onward, but plse do the same, ok? I don't have anything against you. I think you might be a serious contributor, but there is no reason to place Hothouse in that disambiguation page, the WP database is poinint there by mistake I guess. You are the one that first insulted and attacked me at talk:Ambient music and talk:Space music. I want to forget and forgive, I ask you kindly to do the same.Dr. Who 20:48, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Warning
Be advised that if you continue your edit-stalking, harassment, posting of personal abuse, multiple sockpuppet abuse and wikilawyering relating to me and my contributions to Wikipedia, I will have no hesitation in initiating the necessary process to have you formally disciplined by the Arbitration Committee. This may result in a block or other forms of oversight control being placed on your account.

I note that edit-stalking, harassment, posting of personal abuse, multiple sockpuppet abuse and wikilawyering is typical of your behaviour with numerous other editors, with whom you have engaged in similar edit-conflicts on a regular basis, in the 6 months since you registered, and I strongly urge you to cease this behaviour immediately.

The bottom line here is that you cannot use Wikipedia as a vehicle for promoting eccentric personal opinions that are unsupported by reliable third party reference sources.

Compounding the problem by attempting to take ham-fisted revenge on those who challenge you for doing so - via spurious AFD and speedy delete nominations, and administrator noticeboard postings liberally peppered with outrageous false statements - is extremely foolish.

This is your first and last warning. --Gene_poole 03:30, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

WP:HAR
A warm message to all my friends at Wikiproject Pink Floyd: the above users have been reported at Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents and Conflict of interest/Noticeboard. They have both been warned by administrators on their talk pages. Dr. Who 22:08, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Archiving talk pages
Hello, it's me again... Just letting you know that the archive links above point to mainspace (article space). However, archives are normally located in the subpages of respective talk pages. See also: guidelines on archiving talk pages.

If you have questions, feel free to ask me. Helping users with what I already know is much easier than writing good articles. ;) -- intgr 08:05, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Your messages are always very welcome. I'll fix this issue as soon as I'll have studied the guideline page that you have suggested. Cheers. :) --Dr. Who 13:25, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Redefining, huh?
What do you mean 'redefining'? Space music *is* ambient music. Are you debating that?! JAF1970 17:47, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


 * How about the article space music? It's been there for years - you're welcome to delete the ENTIRE ARTICLE, since NOTHING in that entry differs from what is stated there. (rolling eyes) JAF1970 17:55, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Indeed the article Space music explained differences between Space, new age and ambient, and has been there for years, but a user changed it according to his POV violating WP:COI and insulted me several times. I hope you are not a sock of that user. I reworked the article merging various version and rewriting the definition. Now it sounds like a good Encyclopedic dictionary.--Dr. Who 00:16, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Your recent edits regarding musicology (from the talk page of JAF1970)
Would you please explain how could Space music be regarded as a so called "subgenre" of the so called "genre" of Ambient music, given that a lot of remarkable Space music has been released one decade before Mr Eno released some albums entitled Ambient 1-2-3-4 ? Is it an attempt to retrospectively rewrite the events under a different perspective?Dr. Who 17:15, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * No, it's a definition - Space Music *is* ambient music. Period. JAF1970 17:46, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Can you please provide an indipendent (that is not a popular music magazine) reliable source? No I guess. Ambient music is a "genre" only for the pockets of the music industry. It's just a non-sense defition for musicology. It's just background music. Space music is another story. Also please read relevant talk pages.--Dr. Who 17:53, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * How about the article space music? It's been there for years - you're welcome to delete the ENTIRE ARTICLE, since NOTHING in that entry differs from what is stated there. (rolling eyes) JAF1970 17:55, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It has been recentl edited by some guy that harrassed me a few times, and I'm tired of edit wars. I hope that he will get definitely banned by the whole community. Cheers.Dr. Who 18:00, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you need a couple thousand references that state space music is ambient music? Or is your entire issue with Brian Eno being included with Space Music? Please, I'm not into Kirk-vs-Picard arguments. I'm only into facts. JAF1970 18:01, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Only offline references are reliable, please do not send me Google stuff. They are two different types of musical forms (not genres, ok?) that many modern artists involved with modern instrumental music have covered and explored several times (I just hope you are not Gene Poole ;) ) Dr. Who 18:08, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Never heard of Hearts of Space, huh? How about this? Space music as a subgenre.

Space Music This sub-genre of electronic rock doesn't see that much action, but fans of space music usually can't get enough of it. Space music is hard to describe. It tends to be repetitive and lengthy, built in gradually multiplying layers, very electronic yet not entirely 'thick' or inorganic. Once you hear a few examples, you'll figure it out. Klaus Schulze, who was briefly in Tangerine Dream before they were using synthesizers, is the most famous space musician. His albums "X", Timewind, and Mirage are good starting points for the uninitiated, as well as the absolutely amazing _Sonic Seasonings_ by Walter Carlos. More accessible to ambient house fans is the rare and recently-bootlegged album called Space, a pseudonym for Jimi Cauty of the KLF.

Argument over.JAF1970 18:37, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

That link you provides is obviously a good example of an hacker in action. None in Europe takes that stuff seriously. I asked you reputable offline sources, such as an Oxford Dictionary, just to begin with. Yes argument over.Dr. Who 00:04, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

This is a polite reminder.
You are currently being abusive and hostile. I request you stop the namecalling and vandalism. JAF1970 00:21, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
 * huh, vandalism?--Dr. Who 11:58, 17 February 2007 (UTC)