User talk:Dom497/Archive/January - June 2013

Newsletter
I will handle the newsletter's final touches this week. Are you busy? :) — ΛΧΣ  21  02:51, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Take a look at my contribution history...I've been busy with school so I haven't had much time here. Sorry that I've had to leave the newsletter last minute but I can help finish it off tomorrow.--Dom497 (talk) 02:54, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have seen that you were out. I can carry most of the tasks for you if you can't do them. We are a team, and the final goal is to deliverthe newsletter at time, no matter the cost. I understand that you don't have time, RL is more important than wiki :) — ΛΧΣ  21  03:28, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * For obvious reasons, I am moving this monht's newsletter to January 7. — ΛΧΣ  21  01:07, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * No worries. :) --Dom497 (talk) 01:08, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay :) Well I contacted James. If he can't change the date after the bot runs, I'd be dead. it's almost ready though, Only need to write the FE. — ΛΧΣ  21  01:10, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I can stop the bot if you want me to and we can just use EdwardsBot (I have access to it).--Dom497 (talk) 01:10, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * How much time will you be online? Give me 30 minutes and I'll come back here with an answer. I am going light-fast adding the missing information and I am inspired :) — ΛΧΣ  21  01:17, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * At the max, 1 hour. I'm just worried that the bot will start any second.--Dom497 (talk) 01:19, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Almost done. Writing the FA now. Don't be surprised :). — ΛΧΣ  21  01:28, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Got a small problem, the bot hasn't updated the delievery message....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ENewsBot/Syntax/GoodArticles --Dom497 (talk) 01:40, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I finished the FE. Let me look at that. — ΛΧΣ  21  01:57, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Tell me you didn't stop the bot.... — ΛΧΣ  21  02:01, 3 January 2013 (UTC
 * Nope! I had my cursor over the save button though....(just joking)--Dom497 (talk) 02:03, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Lol. See you later :) — ΛΧΣ  21  02:11, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

The WikiProject: Good Articles Newsletter (January 2013)
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I emailed JamesR and he stopped it for me. I sent him the email just before finishing the FE and I believed he didn't read it on time. It results that he indeed read the email and stopped the bot. I see that you sent it through the other bot si I will alert james to not send it again :P — ΛΧΣ  21  15:38, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Dive Pretzel Coaster for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Dive Pretzel Coaster is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Dive Pretzel Coaster until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article.  McDoob AU  93  02:44, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * You got to be kidding me....--Dom497 (talk) 02:44, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately I'm not. There's just not much here to warrant an article. You're of course free to contest the deletion and to continue working on the article in hopes of improving it. -- McDoob  AU  93  02:51, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I know your not, I'm not stupid, just being sarcastic.--Dom497 (talk) 02:52, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

I got your e-mail. With all due respect, it proves nothing. I have no proof that the information you relayed is from someone with Vekoma, that said person was even authorized to discuss such information, etc. For all I know, you have a friend by that name who decided to respond to this. I'm not saying you're actually falsifying it or trying to be deceptive. On the contrary, you're most likely correct. That means nothing in terms of the article. As of right now (which is what I said in the AFD), there's not enough to merit a separate article. When reliable sources, including RCDB, begin discussing this, then I would agree that a standard roller coaster article be set up for the proposed Chinese installation. Further, there would need to be additional proof that this is a model that Vekoma intends to mass-produce much as they have with their Boomerang and SLC creations.

I know you mean well, Dom. You're a coaster fan, I'm a coaster fan. The problem is you're letting rumors and speculation blind you to how Wikipedia works, which is with facts derived from published, reliable sources. I can look back at my earliest edits on Wikipedia and see much the same things you're doing, so don't worry, it's not lethal. :)

-- McDoob AU93  23:25, 12 January 2013 (UTC)


 * What rumours are you talking about. Everything in the article is supported by refs. The only reason why Chance Morgan is "possibly" no longer involved is because RCDB (reliable source) lists all the coasters being built at the Great Mall of China as Vekoma only.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 12:54, 13 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Based on what sources are presented in the article, here's what I have found.


 * Source #1 is a Los Angeles Times article from December 2010. The only statement attributed to this source in the article is regarding the plans (at the time) for the Orlando Thrill Park. Source #2 is a photo gallery connected to the Times article, same date. This provides the mention of the proposed name of the coaster and its manufacturers, Vekoma and Chance-Morgan. Source #3 is an Orlando Sentinel article from June 2011. Only one statement in the article is attributed to this source, stating that Orlando Thrill Park is DOA.


 * Those all deal with what was previously proposed, and I have no quarrel with them or their veracity. Taken by themselves, there's not enough here to provide enough notability for this to be a separate article. Now here are the two sources that I currently have a problem with, and why.


 * Source #4 is from The Star, a Malaysian news website. Two statements in the article are attributed to it, one about this ride being built in China, and another about Vekoma being the sole manufacturer. The Star piece mentions a "Pretzel Coaster", but there is no information in the source saying (a) this is a Vekoma ride and (b) this is intended to be the same thing as the Dive Pretzel Coaster concept mentioned for Orlando Thrill Park.


 * Source #5 seems to be the one that got this whole thing started. It's Screamscape, which happens to be one of my favorite rumor sites (heck, I've submitted more than a few rumors to it myself). Lance repeats the name from the Times source and that it was previously linked to Orlando Thrill Park. Lance goes on to say that "it is now said"—one of the first triggers that this is a rumor—that a copy of the ride will be built in China. Lance provides no link to the Star article, which he usually does when his posts are based on other reports. Neither Source 4 nor 5 make any mention of Chance-Morgan, but it is original thought to make the leap that they are no longer connected to the project. For it not to be OR, a reliable source would have to draw that conclusion themselves, and none have done so.


 * Screamscape is not deemed a reliable source since it deals mainly in rumors and speculation. The not-rare exception is when the site links to another news story that was presented in what would be deemed a reliable source. Put another way, a Screamscape story should be taken with a grain of salt until additional research is conducted into the statement. The additional research into this one isn't holding up to Wikipedia standards, and the rest of the mentions aren't enough to meet general notability standards for an independent article.


 * Now, as to your mention of RCDB. RCDB is indeed considered a reliable source. However, none of the listings in RCDB make any mention of this type of coaster being built. So again, this is a case of an editor putting two and two together, which is original research and is not permitted.


 * Believe me, I edited the same way when I started. We enthusiasts know what we're talking about, how pieces fit together, and more often than not these rumor sites and our detective work turn out to be correct, and that's all fine and good for the enthusiast community. For an encyclopedia, however, the standards are much higher, and we need to hold ourselves to those standards, just as I am holding you to them. For the record, I'd say that you and Lance are almost certainly right, but that's not enough for an encyclopedia article.


 * -- McDoob AU93  16:32, 13 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, I know how Screamscape works. Most of the stuff related to Canada and a bit of Cedar Fair comes from me. I'm going to end this right now and speedy delete the page.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 16:36, 13 January 2013 (UTC)


 * A G7 speedy is up to you, of course. I would suggest perhaps copying the contents to a user sub-page. I'm sure that reliable sourcing will appear soon, and this should go right back into the encyclopedia. Its time just isn't now. -- McDoob  AU93  16:56, 13 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I did that the day you nominated the page :P -- Dom497 ( talk ) 20:56, 13 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Sounds good ... I expect this coaster article to be back online very soon. -- McDoob  AU93  21:06, 13 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Really? What's "soon" to you? I say at least 6 to 12 months.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 22:36, 13 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Without knowing when Great Mall of China's entertainment wing is slated to open, I'd say by whenever that is. Not like there's a WP:DEADLINE or anything. :) -- McDoob  AU93  22:55, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

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Tatsu Edit
When you edited the intro to Tatsu on January 13, why did you remove all of my citations? I spent a lot of time putting those in and I would think we would want to have inline citations to back up those claims of tallest, fastest and longest.— JlACEer ( talk ) 19:17, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


 * The lead's to articles are not supposed to have references.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 19:52, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I had no idea. Is that a written policy? I see references in lead paragraphs all the time. I just clicked through a number of amusement-related articles and I've yet to find one that doesn't have a reference in the lead paragraph. Even some that you recently contributed to like Leviathan (roller coaster) and Test Track.


 * After looking further into the Tatsu article I see the references were moved to the bottom of the page — at first I thought you had just discarded them.— JlACEer ( talk ) 20:13, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I just relized that its somewhat policy. This article says that if references in the lead are used somewhere else in the article there is no need to include them in the lead. However, if the ref is to only support a statment in the lead, then it is alright. And about how Levi and Test Track have refs in the lead, in Test Track, the one ref in the lead is used no where else in the article (other than the infobox), and the same goes with Levi.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 20:30, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


 * WP:LEADCITE says that citations generally shouldn't be in the lead paragraphs because the lead should simply and quickly summarize what's already in the article. The exception would be if something in the lead is perceived as controversial or otherwise in need of supporting. In the case of amusement rides, that would be something along the lines of "Ride X is the tallest ride of its kind in the world". That statement is very LEAD-worthy, but because it's something of a boast, a citation is probably warranted. Conversely, "Ride X is a ride made by Super-Stupendous Rides and found at Amazeballs Park" doesn't really need one, if citations are provided later indicating that Ride X is indeed made by Super-Stupendous Rides and that Amazeballs Park has one. -- McDoob  AU93  20:36, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I'll keep that in mind for future edits, but I know that since I've been editing wiki articles for a little over a year now, I've put references in the lead paragraph probably 95% of the time. My question is: If the lead states XYZ coaster was made by ABC company and ABC company is listed in the infobox, is it necessary to mention it a third time elsewhere in the article so that a proper citation can be included? It is my understanding that the infobox should not have citations either. When I first started I had to change a lot of wooden coasters from PTC to the real builders (like Summers or Cobb), and if I had not provided a citation, my edits probably would have been undone. The lead paragraph seems like a natural place to mention the builder.— JlACEer ( talk ) 21:09, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Ironically the latest Tatsu edit does not mention the manufacturer at all within the text. With the elimination of the overview section, there is no mention of B&M except in the infobox and there is no citation. Yes, we all know it's a B&M, but what if someone came along and claimed it was a Vekoma, there is currently no source to back up the real manufacturer. I had added a reference to RC! Magazine, but that was removed. The cited reference to Werner Stengel as the engineer was also removed.— JlACEer ( talk ) 21:09, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I rarely put references in the infobox and I never cite the manufacturer or designer because I look at is as the RCDB link supports mostly everything in the infobox.-- Astros4477 ( talk ) 21:31, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


 * The ref for Werner Stengel is still there, it is just not mentioned in the article (take a look at the Good Article roller coaster articles and none of them have WS mentioned.)-- Dom497 ( talk ) 21:46, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't see Stengel anywhere in any of those references. You eliminated the reference I put in. At the very least he should be mentioned in the infobox. While RCDB is pretty solid, I am concerned about the added references to Coasterforce.com and YouTube. Websites have a knack for changing pages or disappearing altogether, as do YouTube videos. Do these really make for a Good Article? Who determines that these are good articles?— JlACEer ( talk ) 21:58, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Again, take a look at some of the roller coaster GA articles (you can click on the green icons on the top of my talk page) and look at the YouTube refs. To answer you second question, people like you and me decide per Good article nominations. Also, what ref are you talking about. Please [|click here] and tell me what ref # your talking about?-- Dom497 ( talk ) 22:06, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


 * It's not [|click here] because you deleted it. It doesn't really matter, if all the good article reviewers don't think the manufacturer and designer need to have a citation then it's a moot point.— JlACEer ( talk ) 22:26, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Dom, I think the track and trains section needs to be longer. Maybe add some information to the train section about how riders lay down?-- Astros4477 ( talk ) 22:38, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


 * @Jiacer: The link I posted didn't go to the right page. Click on the history tab and click on the last edit by you and tell me the ref #, I would like to know what ref you are talking about (is it the magazine?). @Astross: I'm on it. :)-- Dom497 ( talk ) 22:42, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, it was the magazine article. I know not everyone has access to these issues, but they are a good source. It also took me a little time to find the issue that had the Tatsu article, so I wasn't real thrilled to see the citation deleted less than two weeks later. But, as I said, if citing the designer and manufacturer isn't necessary, then don't worry about it.— JlACEer ( talk ) 22:54, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

In my opinion, if there is a source available (such as the magazine) we should make an effort to include it. These kind of sources are generally hidden from most as they aren't freely available on websites. Keep in mind, even if stuff is covered by RCDB, that doesn't mean other sources cannot support it. Recently I discovered "Amusement Business", a defunct magazine which I could access online archives of. I have been slowly adding sources here and there even if the information is already sourced as the citation along might help someone else further down the track.

On the topic of the Tatsu article, however, I have a few comments: Themeparkgc  Talk  00:05, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Information included in the lead and the infobox should also be included in the main body. There are several instances where this doesn't occur including no mentions of:
 * B&M
 * Flying Coaster
 * Werner Stengel
 * Background to the ride's name
 * Is the incident when a maintenance worker received some cuts to his arm notable? From what I have seen only serious injuries or deaths are generally reported in these types of sections.
 * Any more sources? At the moment RCDB, the press release and the doco are the only real references in the main body article. Surely this would not be enough for a GA standard.

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Kings Island attractions
I see that in you're sandbox, it looks like you're creating a List of Kings Island attractions. I personally don't think that is needed. All the attractions are already listed in Kings Island with all the info needed. I also wanna see what other users say, I didn't want you to create the article then it just be deleted.--  Astros 4477  ( Talk ) 21:19, 25 January 2013 (UTC)


 * True, but then why is there a Canada's Wonderland list then?-- Dom497 ( talk ) 21:21, 25 January 2013 (UTC)


 * A list like that always existed so I just never went through the trouble in deleting it.--  Astros 4477  ( Talk ) 18:29, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

list of kings island attractions
Should I create a draft article on List of Kings Island attractions? --Starship9000 (talk) 21:42, 25 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Only because I currently have one, no. However, you can edit the draft I have in my sandbox if you want.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 21:44, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

How to create a menu for your userpage?
How do I create a menu for my userpage? I really need a menu for my user page like you, Themeparkgc, and Astros4477 so I really need one so How do I create a menu for my userpage? --Starship9000 (talk) 00:35, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Do you mean the green icons and star at the top of my page? If so, create User:Starship9000/Menu. What do you want to be there, I can help you get the proper templates.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 00:38, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I want the icons and star on the top of my talk page. And I need help getting the proper templates. For my menu, I want the icons showing my user page, talk page, contributions, logs, barnstars, wikiloves, and articles I create so will you please help me put those icons for my menu.


 * What a sec, do you want something similar to the blue menu on the top of this page?-- Dom497 ( talk ) 00:51, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes! --Starship9000 (talk) 01:49, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Please will you create me a menu because I really want it to look like Astros4477's menu? I changed my mind, I want it like Astros4477's menu. Thanks --Starship9000 (talk) 02:48, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I'll see what I can do though I'm not promising to anything. First, pick what icons you want (you can get some here.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 13:29, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


 * You can also find some more here. Starship, what do you like about mine as opposed to Dom's? Was it just the background color?--  Astros 4477  ( Talk ) 18:28, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


 * It was probably the background. I even thought it was ugly, hence why I took it out.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 18:48, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Coaster Star!
Thanks! (And no, the message on your talk page was NOT me trying to the the barnstar :P )-- Dom497 ( talk ) 18:49, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

how to promote roller coaster articles to GA
Hello Dom497. How do I promote roller coaster articles to GA status because I would really want to earn the Coaster Star like you and Astros4477 so how do I promote roller coaster articles to GA status? Please I really want you to leave a note on my                   talk page if you know how to promote roller coaster articles to GA status. --Starship9000 (talk) 16:12, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Newsletter
I will start working on the newsletter tonite. I have a great idea for the FE (you will be surprised :P) as well as new info to add I guess. Will we have it delivered on Feb. 3 or later? — ΛΧΣ  21  18:51, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I forgot about the newsletter (I got exams). I think we can aim for the 3rd if we don't get lazy. :P -- Dom497 ( talk ) 18:53, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Haha Okay. I have exams this week too. So, if needed, we can delay it one week. Regards. — ΛΧΣ  21  00:32, 28 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Damn. Examns. Move it to the fifth, please. I will take care of it tomorrow now that I have a bit of time. Regards. — ΛΧΣ  21  07:07, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Olympia Looping
Hello Dom497. In the Olympia Looping article, I added the table that shows the rankings it made from 1999 to 2010. Please check if it is good or not. I also putted a reference in it. Thanks. --Starship9000 (talk) 21:30, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Not quite. I will fix the table so you know what it should look like. Also, you should look into how to cite sources properly, using just the url is frowned upon.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 00:28, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Talkback
 Astros 4477  ( Talk ) 22:17, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

SkyScreamer
Hello Dom. I just want to ask you how do I promote the SkyScreamer article to good status that way I can add a user box that looks like this:

Please do leave a note on my talk page because I really need to know how to help promote the article SkyScreamer to good status. Thanks! --Starship9000 (talk) 01:18, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

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Talkback
I left another message on my talk page about the SkyScreamer! --Starship9000 (talk) 14:20, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

I also left one more message about the nomating to good status. Please do check! Thanks! --Starship9000 (talk) 14:38, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Should I go on the internet and find websites about the Texas SkyScreamer being the tallest in the world? --Starship9000 (talk) 15:22, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

I left a note about the reference. Please check it. Starship9000 (talk) 16:16, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

I left one thing on my talk page about putting a reference. I also added the reference to the table header text. Starship9000 (talk) 18:54, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

I left one last thing on my talk page so please go to the SkyScreamer article and see if it looks ready to be nominated for good status. Let me know if it is ready. If it is, I will nominate it for good status. --Starship9000 (talk) 19:27, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

/* GA Review */ Goliath
Hi! Just so you know, your article is currently being reviewed by me. I've left a few concerns on the review page so the article is currently on hold but they shouldnt be too hard to fix. Thanks!Retrolord (talk) 06:57, 2 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Hope you didn't mind me helping out earlier. At the moment I think there are only a couple of issues outstanding. Do you mind addressing the comment on the trains section from the GA review? Also if you could find a source to support the August 21 closing date, that would be great. See the review page for more. Thanks Themeparkgc   Talk  07:27, 3 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Don't mind at all!-- Dom497 ( talk ) 19:46, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

nominating SkyScreamer to good status
Hello there, how do I nominate the SkyScreamer article to good status? I do not know how to do that so how do I nominate it to good status? Do I add a template? Anything I can do to nominate it to good status so that way I can put the userbox in my good articles that way the userbox can look like this:

Thanks! --Starship9000 (talk) 14:51, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I need to nominate it to B-class first! --Starship9000 (talk) 14:57, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

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SkyScreamer
"I don't see why you have a hard time wanting them in the article"--that must be a rhetorical question. They shouldn't be in the article, plain and simple. There is no mandate that such links be in the article; they're not web sites, they're just pages; they contain no information whatsoever that isn't already in the article; they're purely commercial; the ones for San Antonio, St. Louis, San Francisco, and New Jersey are exactly the same, as are the ones for Arlington and Atlanta, and they're essentially the same as the La Ronde one. I'll take this up at WP:ELN: Wikipedia is not a repository for commercial links. Drmies (talk) 15:08, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I am not arguing with this. Do whatever you want.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 15:10, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Drmies (talk) 15:22, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Your welcome.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 15:22, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

GA Newsletter
Hi Dom497, just enquiring regarding the status of the GA Newsletter delivery. Were you doing this manually or would you like me to run the bot? Last month was run manually and so I'm on a "pause" so to speak just awaiting a resume notice. Cheers, &mdash;  JamesR ( talk ) 11:36, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I finished the Newsletter and told JamesR to run it. Regards. — ΛΧΣ  21  19:40, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey Dom. Thanks for handling the final steps of the newsletter :) — ΛΧΣ  21  01:38, 13 February 2013 (UTC)


 * No problem! Oh, and you just a friendly reminder about SheiKra...just in case you forget which you probably didn't because your busy just like any other person (including me!) :) -- Dom497 ( talk ) 01:41, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Couple things for you
Hello Dom. I just want to ask you how do I launch something new for roller coasters such as Operation Vekoma to help nominate Vekoma roller coasters to GA Status? You actually launched something new for roller coasters called Operation B&M. How do I launch something like Operation Vekoma to allow other users to help promote Vekoma roller coasters to GA Status? I think that is something new we should add to WikiProject Amusement Parks in the area to nominate Vekoma roller coaster articles]] to GA Status. How do I launch something new like Operation Vekoma --Starship9000 (talk) 22:24, 10 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Because something like this would fall under the WikiProject's Collaboration Center, I suggest we hold off on Operation Vekoma until Operation B&M is complete. After the current operation is complete, I will be more then happy to get Operation Vekoma started.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 23:28, 10 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I agree with you about the Operation Vekoma one that is on hold after Operation B&M is completed. But I got a question about how do I nominate pages to B-class? Do I add a template, change the quality scale, anything? --Starship9000 (talk) 23:32, 10 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Please don't tell me this has to do with SkyScreamer.....-- Dom497 ( talk ) 23:35, 10 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Starship, we have told you a dozen times that there is no template. You have to fix whats in yellow.--  Astros 4477  ( Talk ) 00:00, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
 * What is in yellow? --Starship9000 (talk) 13:17, 11 February 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't know what to say.......the yellow text on the SkyScreamer talk page by Themeparkgc!!!-- Dom497 ( talk ) 19:40, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

your message from me
That message is to do with Blue Streak (Cedar Point) so is there any issues. How do I promote that to B-class? --Starship9000 (talk) 00:19, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Leviathan (roller coaster)
Hi Dom497, I'm beginning the copy-edit you requested to the above article at the GOCE Request page. Please feel free to contact me, and to correct or revert my changes if I'm doing something I shouldn't. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 03:12, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Done - feel free to contact me about any issues arising from the copy-edit. I don't think this article is anywhere near FA standard at the moment. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 06:23, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Pirate ship (ride) GA nomination
Is there anything I should do that way I can nominate Pirate ship (ride) to good status?I have been putting more apperances in the apperances section. Thanks! --Starship9000 (talk) 01:10, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

I trust there will be no further objections
After the discussion at good article talk, I trust you have no further objections regarding my reviews and do not plan on putting the rest of them through trial by Dom497(individual reassessment)?

Let me know.  ★ ★ RetroLord★ ★  07:57, 16 February 2013 (UTC)


 * For now, yes.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 13:42, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Proposal
I noticed you removed my proposal from the Good article nominations talk page with an edit summary "moved to rfc'.

Specifically, this diff en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Good_article_nominations&diff=539094812&oldid=539039595

Could you please inform me as to where the proposal currently is as after taking a look at rfc I have been unable to locate it.

Also, would you please in future not edit my talk page posts without my consent, which would include moving them to another page without even notifying me.

 ★ ★ RetroLord★ ★  07:53, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * It can be found at Good article nominations/New Proposals for GAN, Part I. AIR corn (talk) 19:46, 20 February 2013 (UTC)


 * @Retrolord: Your message was not posted on your talk page, it was posted on a more "general" talk page. Why would I need your permission to move something that is on the wrong talk page (?), however I will notify you if I every move any of your messages again.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 12:33, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Hollywood Rip, Ride, Rockit
Hi Dom. I initiated a review at Talk:Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit/GA1. Unfortunately, I have some major concerns over the prose that will need to be addressed before I continue the review. AIR corn (talk) 19:41, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Theme Park Studio


A tag has been placed on Theme Park Studio, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Wikiproject Articles for creation Needs You!
 WikiProject Articles for creation Backlog Elimination Drive WikiProject AFC is holding a one month long Backlog Elimination Drive! The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unreviewed articles. The drive is running from March 1st, 2013 – March 31st, 2013.

Awards will be given out for all reviewers participating in the drive in the form of barnstars at the end of the drive. There is a backlog of over 2000 articles, so start reviewing articles! Visit the drive's page and help out! Delivered by User:EdwardsBot on behalf of Wikiproject Articles for Creation at 13:35, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Newsletter March's issue
Who said it wouldn't be a March newsletter? I am finishing up the featured editorial and I designed a new template to make writing the newsletter way easier :) — ΛΧΣ  21  02:42, 6 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I figured that because you were going to work on other wiki projects you wouldn't be here to write the newsletter. I would of wrote it but my teacher's are b****s.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 19:49, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Heh. I said I would still be here to handle my obligations ;) Don't worry though. I can handle the newsletter while you're out. Cheers. — ΛΧΣ  21  20:51, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I guess it won't be newsletter this month after all. I will try to make a new design for next month, and now that I write at the Signpost, we'd need an extra pair of hands helping us :) — ΛΧΣ  21  03:27, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * No problem!-- Dom497 ( talk ) 19:50, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Article Feedback deployment
Hey Dom497; I'm dropping you this note because you've used the article feedback tool in the last month or so. On Thursday and Friday the tool will be down for a major deployment; it should be up by Saturday, failing anything going wrong, and by Monday if something does :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 22:59, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Re: Reliable sources
Here's the mail! Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 16:22, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

SheiKra
Hi Dom497, I'm beginning the copy-edit you requested to the above article at the GOCE Request page. Please feel free to contact me, or to correct or revert my edits if I'm doing something I shouldn't. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 04:11, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Done - feel free to contact me about any issues arising from the copy-edit; good luck with your planned FA nom. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 00:09, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank-you very very very much! (I've lost count how many times I've said thank-you to you in the past 48 hours :P ) -- Dom497 ( talk ) 00:10, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

FYI
WikiWork data has been updated; see User:WP_1.0_bot/Tables/Project/Amusement_park. Cheers, — Theopolisme   ( talk )  22:55, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank-you very much!-- Dom497 ( talk ) 22:57, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Talkback
Just wondering if/when we are going to distribute the newsletter? I've also fixed the issue with the task force tables. Themeparkgc  Talk  22:07, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Cedar Point sold to Canada
Lucky you!

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/blog/blog-picture/3540596

--  Astros 4477  ( Talk ) 23:09, 1 April 2013 (UTC)


 * WHAT THE F&%#!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-- Dom497 ( talk ) 00:00, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Worst April Fools joke ever.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 00:05, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Hahaha did you think that was true at first? :)--  Astros 4477  ( Talk ) 13:26, 2 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, if you compare my first message to my second message and notice the fact that their is a 5 minute difference between the two and someone who wouldn't want to admit something would pretend like they knew it all along and say it was the worst joke ever............you can already figure it out. ;) -- Dom497 ( talk ) 18:39, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Amusement Park Quarter 2, 2013 Newsletter
21:00, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

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GA instructions
Finally got around to finishing off the instructions. Let me know what you think and then we can probably drop a note at WT:GAN and all systems should be go. AIR corn (talk) 03:21, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

List of Kings Island attractions
I have responded to your question on the Talk page. Mgrē@sŏn 19:35, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Lists at FLC
If you have time or interest, feel free to take a look at my two lists at FLC: List of awards and nominations received by Fiona Apple and List of songs recorded by Pink Martini. Thanks so much! -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:50, 8 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't really review FLC's....I'm more a GA guy. Sorry. :( -- Dom497 ( talk ) 22:44, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Pending release of Notifications
Hey :). I'm dropping you a note because you have signed up for the Notifications, or Echo, newsletter.

If all goes according to plan, we should be launching Echo on en-wiki either tomorrow, or next Tuesday - I'll drop a followup tomorrow when we know what's happening. Should the launch succeed, we'll begin the process of triaging bugs and gathering feedback on what features work, what cause problems, and what we should do next; I hope you'll help us out on these fronts by leaving any comments you might have on the talkpage.

Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:46, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Kings Island attractions
When you get a chance, would you mind commenting on the discussion here? I'd like to get a few more opinions if possible. Thanks! --GoneIn60 (talk) 18:34, 26 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Done.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 18:55, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Good work
Good work with this edit. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 14:23, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Sorry bout dat
Sorry I didn't get to SheiKra in time. Keep me posted if it goes up for FAC at some point in the future, and I'll try to be more punctual. Good luck, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 21:27, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
 * It's ok. I'll be renominating it in 2 weeks (got to follow the rules...).-- Dom497 ( talk ) 19:23, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Krake
Hello! Your submission of Krake at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!  —♦♦ AMBER  (ЯʘCK)  11:19, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Notifications box replacement prototypes released
Hey Dom497; Kaldari has finished scripting a set of potential replacements available to test and give feedback on. Please go to this thread for more detail on how to enable them. Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 15:32, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Krake
Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:11, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Silver Bullet (roller coaster)
The article Silver Bullet (roller coaster) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Silver Bullet (roller coaster) for things which need to be addressed. Themeparkgc  Talk  22:57, 22 May 2013 (UTC)


 * The article Silver Bullet (roller coaster) you nominated as a good article has passed [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]]; see Talk:Silver Bullet (roller coaster) for comments about the article. Well done! Themeparkgc   Talk  01:07, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Precious
  sky loop

Thank you for quality articles for project Amusement Parks, such as SkyLoop and Krake which attracted 8k viewers (DYK?), for reviewing GAs and mentoring, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:45, 25 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I didn't mean this when I posted on Astros talk page....but thanks!-- Dom497 ( talk ) 12:22, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Cookies

 * Too...many....cookies.... :P -- Dom497 ( talk ) 01:04, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Good Article RfC
Yeah, close it. I will try to find someone to draft a script to make the easy pass/fail stuff, and try to find time to help you with the rest. I've been very busy as of late, and I think it's time to do another big lift to GAN; since I left, it has been quite calmed :) — ΛΧΣ  21  19:34, 26 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I know how you feel. I just hate school right now...especially business (I know, out of all subjects possible, I hate this one the most)! :P -- Dom497 ( talk ) 00:14, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

RollerCoaster! Magazine
From the discussion on User talk:Themeparkgc, I'm curious how you knew there was an article about Levitahan in the Winter 2013 issue if you are not a member. Have you seen the entire article?— JlACEer ( talk ) 18:43, 29 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Here is the citation information you requested. — JlACEer  ( talk ) 18:43, 29 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I've been following the Kings Island 2014 mystery project on a KI Central forum that has gone way off topic several times. One of those times was when a user mentioned how B&M felt sorry for CW so I looked further into it and found this. That's when I came to you (or you came to me....)! :) -- Dom497 ( talk ) 19:05, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles Recruitment Centre
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Recruitment centre
My compliments an excellent idea, I will keep a watch on how it develops and adapts through experience. I have not reviewed enough articles myself to be able to take part but wish you all well. Edmund Patrick – confer 20:24, 4 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank-you for your support! You got six reviews right now....I think you can make it to 15! Anyway, I don't know if you nominate articles or not but if you do, you can still help out (read the "Nominations please read this" section in the original message I sent out).-- Dom497 ( talk ) 21:00, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Excellent and much needed idea. Also a lot of good work on developing one particular approach towards teaching/helping someone get going. My own impression is that at first glance it appears to take one particular extensive regimented approach and making it the way. Also, it appears set up for a having a teacher who already pretty much knows everything, including the areas that I'm still learning/ developing a perspective on at 41 reviews. So its not for me at the moment, but thanks for your efforts on a much needed idea and I hope it goes well. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 10:15, 5 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi, thanks for the feedback! Can you tell me what you are still learning (if you want) so I can see if something can be changed/added to the Recruitment Centre to make the accessibility easier? Also, I don't know if you nominate articles, but if you do, you can still help out, by reading the "Nominators please read this" section in the orginial message I sent out (if you haven't already). Thanks again!-- Dom497 ( talk ) 18:45, 5 June 2013 (UTC)


 * What I'm still learning is finding that right line between between too tough/thorough, and too easy. In short, how tough/thorough is about right?  Seeing the massive variations in this, I'm probably doing pretty good at finding the middle, but it has taken 40 reviews to learn and build confidence even halfway on that.  Or maybe I'm in the final phase where I've found the "middle" but have not built the total confidence that it is that.  So when I see a review that is on the toughest/most thorough end of the spectrum, such will no longer make me worry that my being in the middle is "too easy" North8000 (talk) 11:34, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles Recruitment Centre message
Hi. Thanks for your message but I've somehow got onto your list by mistake. I've never reviewed a single good Article nominee, never mind 15! Good luck with recruitment. Tassedethe (talk) 15:10, 9 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Really? The GA Bot says you have reviewed 24 (click here)....you sure no one hacked your account!!! :P -- Dom497 ( talk ) 15:13, 9 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Perhaps I'm sleep-editing? :) I can only imagine it's because I've moved GA talk pages. Perhaps that shows up as 'reviewed'. Tassedethe (talk) 15:17, 9 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Probably...I do know there are some issues with the GA Bot counting reviews just never heard of this one. Oh well, sorry about that. :) -- Dom497 ( talk ) 15:23, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Mass mailings
I like the idea, but please remove me from any future mass mailings.  S ven M anguard  Wha?  00:08, 10 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok, no problem. :) -- Dom497 ( talk ) 01:23, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Good Articles
Hey Dom, got your message, I am a bit inactive on the wiki but if/when I ever return I do plan on writing up a somewhat comprehensive GA guide. I'd be happy to help with that and any other things the recruitment centre needs when it opens.

Thanks!  ★ ★ RetroLord★ ★  01:59, 10 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for offering to help! Just out of curiosity, what's gonna be in the GA guide (sounds like a good idea!)? :) -- Dom497 ( talk ) 02:03, 10 June 2013 (UTC)


 * I imagine it would be a write up of all the points I go through in a review, to cover all the GA criterions. I'll write it someday :)  ★ ★ RetroLord★ ★  01:20, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Gather Together FAC
Hi Dom, I'm sure that you're busy with the GA recruitment, but I have an FA that's languishing. Would you mind going over and looking at it for me? I recommend that you ask around for folks to review your coaster FA article, too, so that it doesn't fail due to lack of support. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 22:32, 10 June 2013 (UTC)


 * My nomination has lots of support....some one just needs to spot-check it and then the decision should be made (as far as Ian (the delegate) has said). Regarding your nomination, I can't support or oppose it as I do not review FAC's...only GAN's. I honestly don't feel comfortable reviewing a FAC as I have no idea how to. I feel like if I were to review a candidate I would get bashed for doing something wrong (which is what I want to avoid). FA standards are a big jump from GA standards (that I am used to) and I don't think I'm ready to cross the bridge just yet. The least I could do for you is do an image check which I've done on the review page. Sorry.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 23:27, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

FAC review?
Hi, if you have some spare time, would you care to review God of War: Betrayal? It's very close to being promoted, I just need a review or two from a non-expert, as in, someone outside of the WP video game project. -- JDC808  ♫  16:57, 14 June 2013 (UTC)


 * If you read my comment above, you will find out that I don't review FAC's. But just (and only) because there is already a lot of support and there are virtually no errors left, I have left comments on the review page.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 19:23, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit
Hello Dom497, I made an edit to the Rip Ride Rockit wiki page, you reverted my edit per Good Faith, I tried to look and see why did you that. If I did something wrong, please let me know, but I didn't find anything wrong with my edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnnyhala (talk • contribs) 02:25, 15 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry about that...I didn't think the name was in the Orlando Attractions ref.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 12:52, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Falcon's Fury
The DYK project (nominate) 16:33, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Angelou FAC
Hey Dom, I see that you did an image check on my most recent FAC. Did you have any other feedback? I ask because the FAC is languishing, and I'm trying to drum up additional reviewers. Thanks, I appreciate it, and good luck in with your coasters. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 15:25, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * As a side note, I'm sorry to hear of your personal emergency. Will be thinking of you, and I hope all goes well. -- Khazar2 (talk) 21:01, 18 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I also thought creating the recruitment centre was a long shot but we'll see what happens. Oh and a "personal emergency" probably wasn't the right thing to use...more of a "family emergency".... it was "just" a scare in the hospital.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 00:01, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Glad to hear all's well. Cheers, -- Khazar2 (talk) 00:55, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Main Page appearance: SheiKra
This is a note to let the main editors of SheiKra know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on July 5, 2013. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask featured article director or one of his delegates (,, and ), or start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests. You can view the TFA blurb at Today's featured article/July 5, 2013. If it needs tweaking, or if it needs rewording to match improvements to the article between now and its main page appearance, please edit it, following the instructions at Today's featured article/requests/instructions. The blurb as it stands now is below:

SheiKra is a steel Dive Coaster roller coaster at the Busch Gardens Tampa Bay amusement park in Tampa, Florida, United States. The name is derived from "shikra", an Asian-African hawk that is known to dive vertically for its prey. Manufactured by Bolliger & Mabillard, the ride was planned to reach a height of approximately 160 ft, but this was later changed to 200 ft. It reaches a maximum speed of 70 mph, and has a total track length of 3188 ft. It opened in 2005, and was converted to a floorless roller coaster in 2007, following the opening of its sister Dive Coaster Griffon at Busch Gardens Williamsburg. SheiKra was the first Dive Coaster to be constructed in North America; it was also the first of its kind to feature a vertical drop, a splashdown and an Immelmann loop. It broke the records for the world's longest, tallest, and fastest Dive Coaster, but has since lost these records. In 2005, Amusement Today's annual Golden Ticket Awards voted it the fourth-best new steel roller coaster of that year in a three-way tie and the 28th-best steel roller coaster. It was voted the 30th-best steel roller coaster in 2012. UcuchaBot (talk) 23:02, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

The Roller Coaster Barnstar

 * Thanks!-- Dom497 ( talk ) 14:38, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Amusement Parks Newsletter
I've started to prepare the next newsletter (due for release on July 1) here and here. Feel free to add anything you think might be relevant. Themeparkgc  Talk  05:34, 22 June 2013 (UTC)


 * I think this is good to go. Themeparkgc   Talk  22:46, 2 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I'll send it out tonight. :) -- Dom497 ( talk ) 21:26, 3 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Themeparkgc (I'm just saying your name so it comes up on your notifications)...I screwed up with the bot and the newsletter was being sent to all wikicup members (which has over 200 people) so sending the newsletter out today is out of the question as I got an admin to block (they blocked it for three hours). (I know, how does anyone screw up something so easy; but on the positive, its lots of promotion :) ) The newsletter is going to have to wait a couple more days as I don't know if I will be here tomorrow. Sorry.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 23:15, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Note that you have to link the name to get a notification (AFAIK), and you should probably note in the newsletter itself why people accidentally received it, so I don't have to go hunting on talk pages to find out why. ;-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 04:07, 4 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry about that (I couldn't note in the letter because I used the subst template).-- Dom497 ( talk ) 20:42, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Fair catch kick
I responded to your last issue on that GAN.  Toa   Nidhiki05  21:13, 28 June 2013 (UTC)


 * I know, I follow wiki on my phone. This week has been crazy which is why I haven't been online as often as I usually am.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 23:04, 28 June 2013 (UTC)