User talk:Dom497/Archive/July - December 2013

WikiProject Amusement Park Quarter 3, 2013 Newsletter
--EdwardsBot (talk) 20:50, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter
Hey Dom497! We've just deployed some fixes to the VisualEditor. These include:
 * "Edit" will load the latest version, not the version you're looking at (bug 49943)
 * "Edit" will load the latest version, not the version you edited last time if this is your second edit (bug 50441)
 * VE edit section links will load the latest, not original, version in diff view preview (bug 50925)
 * Foo and similar repeated tags will not get corrupted any more (bug 49755)

In the meantime, testing is proceeding well, and hopefully we can get some more fixes out over the next couple of days. If you're interested in helping out, we have a set of open tasks we'd really appreciate your assistance with :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 08:08, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

VE newsletter
Hey Dom497

We just deployed another VisualEditor release; bugs fixed include:
 * Firefox 13/14 has been temporarily blacklisted, to avoid the insertion of broken links ./that look like this (50720)
 * Changing a reference in a template should no longer produce the bright red "you don't have a references block!" error (50423)
 * Notices are now shown if you're editing a protected or semi-protected page (50415)
 * The template inspector will no longer invite you to insert parameters that are already being used (50715)
 * Same as above, but with aliases (50717)
 * Parameter names in the template dialogue now word-wrap (50800)
 * The link inspector will not show in the top left if you hit the return key while opening it (49941)
 * Hitting return twice in the link editor will no longer introduce a new line that overwrites the link (51075)
 * Oddly-named categories no longer cause corruption (50702)
 * The toolbar no longer occasionally covers the cursor (48787)
 * Changing the formatting of text no longer occasionally scrolls you upwards (50792)

Not specific bugs, but other things; cacheing is now improved, so people should stop seeing temporary breaking when the VisualEditor updates, and RTL support has received some patches. I hope this newsletter is helpful to people; I'll send out another one with the next deployment :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 10:18, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

VE newsletter
Hey Dom497! Another set of patches :). Today we have:


 * Required template parameters are now automatically added to new templates (50747)
 * Templates with piped links now display correctly when you alter them (50801)
 * If your edit token expires, you're now informed of it (50424).
 * You still won't be able to save - that's due to be fixed on Monday :).

More on Monday, I suspect. Hope you have a good weekend :). I should also have some news about the IP launch pretty soon. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 13:27, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

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VE newsletter
Hey Dom497; hope you had a decent weekend :). We've got a pile of patches, some of which went out on Monday, some yesterday:


 * If you insert wikitext such as links or section headers, you get a notice in the top right corner (over the save button). It doesn't go away until click, though once dismissed you don't get another one that edit. (49820)
 * If your edit token expires, VE fetches a new one for you so you can save. (50424)
 * If the page is empty of content but does have something non-content (like a category or an HTML comment), VE no longer crashes on load - (50289)
 * sub tags are no longer removed ((49873)
 * If you type at the end of links, they now extend
 * Templates now only take a single click to insert
 * Clear annotations clears links (50461)
 * The link inspector stays open when you click to another item (50895)
 * Typing after multi-byte characters no longer creats pawn icons (51140)
 * Resizing thumbnails that have a default size set now works (50645)
 * References made by tag:ref now display properly (50978)
 * The VE is integrated with the spam blacklist (50826)
 * Feedbacl link goes to the right language (47730)

There are a lot more improvements coming, but that's it for Monday and Tuesday. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 08:28, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

WP Amusement Parks in the Signpost
The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Amusement Parks for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. –Mabeenot (talk) 05:27, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Good Article Recruitment
Hi Dom, you seem to know whats up with the GA recruiter page so I'm asking you. Isn't a minimum of 15 reviews a bit low? It just doesn't seem like a high enough bar. Would you consider raising the bar to 30 perhaps, or some other number? Thanks,  ★ ★King•Retrolord★ ★  14:18, 24 July 2013 (UTC)


 * We would lose a lot of recruiters if I were to raise it up. I follow along every recruitment and IMO everyone is doing fine so I don't think there is a need to raise the review count to 30 (also, some recruitments seem to be stalling but that doesn't have to do with experience).-- Dom497 ( talk ) 16:47, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

VE newsletter
Hey Dom497. The newest updates: Along with some miscellaneous language support fixes. That's all for today; as always, let us know if you spot more bugs. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 22:03, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Links now don't extend over space/punctuation/workbreaks when you type (51463)
 * Users with the "minoredit" preference set get working functionality (51515)
 * You can tab to buttons in dialogs, including the save dialog (50047)
 * We now show the (or ) message as an edit notice (51459)
 * You can scroll dialog panels like in transclusions' templates' parameter listings (51739)
 * Templates that only create meta-data and no display content at all (like Template:Use dmy dates) now can't be deleted accidentally or deliberately, but still don't show up (51322)
 * FlaggedRevisions integration (49699)
 * Edit summary will get the section title pre-added if you launched from a section edit link (50872)

Your editor review request
Hi there. You probably have forgotten about it already since it was made over a year ago.

I am in the middle of clearing up backlogs for editor review, so I have reviewed and archived your request. Cheers! Alex ShihTalk 22:42, 27 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Its already been a year (time goes by fast)!?!? Thanks for the review!-- Dom497 ( talk ) 00:45, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Going to be gone
Hey Dom, I feel like this is Déjà vu all over again! Unfortunately, I will not be here for the Kings Island announcement. I'm making a trip to Canada (and of course Canada's Wonderland!) and might not be on at the time of the announcement so I'd greatly appreciate it if you could move User:Astros4477/Kings Island 2014 into namespace. Btw if you have any tips/secrets for Canada's Wonderland, let me know! I'm looking forward to my first visit. Thanks, --  Astros 4477  ( Talk ) 01:44, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

DYK RfC

 * As a listed GA participant, you are invited to contribute to a formal Request for Comment on the question of whether Good Articles should be eligible to appear in the Did You Know? slot in future. Please see the proposal on its subpage here, or on the main DYK talk page. To add the discussion to your watchlist, click this link. Thank you in advance. Gilderien Chat&#124;Contributions 02:45, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter for 06 August 2013
It's been almost two weeks since the last newsletter, and a lot of improvements have been made during that time. The main things that people have noticed are significant improvements to speed for typing into long pages, scrolling and deleting  on large pages. There have also been improvements to references, with the latest being support for list-defined references, which are s defined inside a ) (bug 53345).  Selecting both an image and some text, and then trying to add a link, previously deleted the selected image and the text.  This was fixed in bug 50127. There was another problem related to using arrow keys to move the cursor next to an inline image that was fixed (bug 53507).

Looking ahead: The next planned upgrade is scheduled for next Thursday, and you should expect to find a redesigned toolbar with drop-down menus that include room for references, templates, underline, strikethrough, superscript, subscript, and code formatting. There will also be keyboard shortcuts for setting the format (paragraph vs section headings).

If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being determined at this time. Generally speaking, languages that depend on the input method editor are not going to receive VisualEditor this month. The current target date is Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:35, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:GateKeeper (CP) Layout.png)
Thanks for uploading File:GateKeeper (CP) Layout.png. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'file' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Werieth (talk) 14:51, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Some Windseeker thing at another park
So there's plans of a Mondial Windseeker ride coming to Adventureland (Iowa), I'm confused of putting it together into the Windseeker page or create a new article on the ride. The Adventureland park is a family-owned park and not a Cedar Fair park, so is it a good idea to create a new page or put into the same page? Another question is, is Windseeker a trademark of Cedar Fair or Mondial? ///Euro Car GT  20:03, 7 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I think we should make a different article about it or it might not even be notable enough for its own article. Wind Seeker is the model name, WindSeeker is the name of the ride at the Cedar Fair parks so I don't think they should be in the same article.--  Astros 4477  ( Talk ) 20:37, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay! So gather up some references and sources, not sure if it's notable, but rides with the same model have different pages. ///Euro Car  GT  20:51, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Clermont Steel Fabricators
The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Griffon (roller coaster)
The article Griffon (roller coaster) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Griffon (roller coaster) for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- 16:10, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter for September 19, 2013
VisualEditor has been updated twice in the last two weeks. As usual, what is now running on the English Wikipedia had a test run at Mediawiki during the previous week.

As announced, the toolbar was redesigned to be simpler, shorter, and to have the ability to have drop-down groups with descriptions. What you see now is the initial configuration and is expected to change in response to feedback from the English Wikipedia and other Wikipedias. The controls to add  (underline),   (subscript), and   (superscript),   (strikethrough) and   (computer code/monospace font) annotations to text are available to all users in the drop-down menu. At the moment, all but the most basic tools have been moved into a single drop-down menu, including the tools for inserting media, references, reference lists, and templates. The current location of all of the items in the toolbar is temporary, and your opinions about the best order are needed! Please offer suggestions at VisualEditor/Feedback/Toolbar.

In an eagerly anticipated upgrade to the reference dialog, newly added references or reference groups no longer need the page to be saved before they can be re-used (bugs 51689 and 52000). The 'Use existing reference' button is now disabled on pages which don't yet have any references (bug 51848). The template parameter filter in the transclusion dialog now searches both parameter name and label (bug 51670).

In response to several requests, there are some new keyboard shortcuts. You can now set the block/paragraph formatting from the keyboard: Ctrl sets a block as a regular paragraph; Ctrl up to Ctrl sets it as a Heading 1 ("Page title") to Heading 6 ("Sub-heading 4"); Ctrl sets it as pre-formatted (bug 33512). Ctrl, which creates level 2 section headings, may be the most useful.

Some improvements were made to capitalization for links, so typing in "iPhone" will offer a link to "iPhone" as well as "IPhone" (bug 50452).

Copying and pasting within the same document should work better as of today's update, as should copying from VisualEditor into a third-party application (bug 53364, bug 52271, bug 52460). Work on copying and pasting between VisualEditor instances (for example, between two articles) and retaining formatting when copying from an external source into VisualEditor is progressing.

Major improvements to editing with input method editors (IMEs; mostly used for Indic and East Asian languages) are being deployed today. This is a complex change, so it may produce unexpected errors. On a related point, the names of languages listed in the "languages" (langlinks) panel in the Page settings dialog now display as RTL when appropriate (bug 53503).

Looking ahead: The help/'beta' menu will soon expose the build number next to the "Leave feedback" link, so users can give more specific reports about issues they encounter (bug 53050). This change will make it easier for developers to identify any cacheing issues, once it starts reporting the build number (currently, it says "Version false"). Also, inserting a link, reference or media file will put the cursor after the new content again (bug 53560). Next week’s update will likely improve how dropdowns and other selection menus behave when they do not fit on the screen, with things scrolling so the selected item is always in view.

If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being finalized. About two dozen Wikipedias are on the list for Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only, and on Monday, September 30 for unregistered editors. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:35, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Goliath (Six Flags Over Georgia)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Goliath (Six Flags Over Georgia) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Moswento -- 12:50, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Ghost of Sparta FAC
If you have some spare time, would you care to review God of War: Ghost of Sparta? -- JDC808  ♫  05:35, 25 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi, as mentioned in my page notice (seen when editing my talk page), I do not review FAC's. Sorry.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 19:43, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't even read that. -- JDC808  ♫  23:17, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
 * No worries. :) -- Dom497 ( talk ) 02:01, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Tatsu
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Tatsu you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- 07:31, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Goliath (Six Flags Over Georgia)
The article Goliath (Six Flags Over Georgia) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Goliath (Six Flags Over Georgia) for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Moswento -- 20:19, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Help test better mass message delivery
Hi. You're being contacted as you've previously used global message delivery (or its English Wikipedia counterpart). It doesn't feel so great to be spammed, does it? ;-)

For the past few months, Legoktm has built a replacement to the current message delivery system called MassMessage. MassMessage uses a proper user interface form (no more editing a /Spam subpage), works faster (it can complete a large delivery in minutes), and no longer requires being on an access list (any local administrator can use it). In addition, many tiny annoyances with the old system have been addressed. It's a real improvement! :-)

You can test out MassMessage here: testwiki:Special:MassMessage. The biggest difference you'll likely notice is that any input list must use a new  parser function. For example,  or. For detailed instructions, check out mw:Help:Extension:MassMessage.

If you find any bugs, have suggestions for additional features, or have any other feedback, drop a note at m:Talk:MassMessage. Thanks for spamming! --MZMcBride (talk) 05:16, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Tatsu
The article Tatsu you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Tatsu for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- 21:32, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter on 16 October 2013
VisualEditor is still being updated every Thursday. As usual, what is now running on the English Wikipedia had a test run at Mediawiki during the previous week. If you haven't done so already, you can turn on VisualEditor by going to your preferences and choosing the item, " ".

The reference dialog for all Wikipedias, especially the way it handles citation templates, is being redesigned. Please offer suggestions and opinions at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog. (Use your Wikipedia username/password to login there.) You can also drag and drop references (select the reference, then hover over the selected item until your cursor turns into the drag-and-drop tool). This also works for some templates, images, and other page elements (but not yet for text or floated items). References are now editable when they appear inside a media item's caption (bug 50459).

There were a number of miscellaneous fixes made: Firstly, there was a bug that meant that it was impossible to move the cursor using the keyboard away from a selected node (like a reference or template) once it had been selected (bug 54443). Several improvements have been made to scrollable windows, panels, and menus when they don't fit on the screen or when the selected item moves off-screen. Editing in the "slug" at the start of a page no longer shows up a chess pawn character ("♙") in some circumstances (bug 54791). Another bug meant that links with a final punctuation character in them broke extending them in some circumstances (bug 54332). The "page settings" dialog once again allows you to remove categories (bug 54727). There have been some problems with deployment scripts, including one that resulted in VisualEditor being broken for an hour or two at all Wikipedias (bug 54935). Finally, snowmen characters ("☃") no longer appear near newly added references, templates and other nodes (bug 54712).

Looking ahead: Development work right now is on rich copy-and-paste abilities, quicker addition of citation templates in references, setting media items' options (such as being able to put images on the left), switching into wikitext mode, and simplifying the toolbar. A significant amount of work is being done on other languages during this month. If you speak a language other than English, you can help with translating the documentation.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:35, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

GARC and Gilderien
Hi. I signed up for Good article recruitment with Gilderien but he(?) hasn't edited for over a month. Is there anything I can do? Rain City 471  (Whack!) 20:42, 19 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry, he's just emailed me&mdash;he'll on a sort of wikibreak. Sorry, Rain City 471  (Whack!) 09:04, 20 October 2013 (UTC)


 * No worries! Thanks for showing interest in the recruitment centre!-- Dom497 ( talk ) 02:17, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Leviathan and "Giga"
In your response on the talk page, you said "Canada's Wonderland has never used the word "giga" in anything related to Leviathan". However, the very last post in the original discussion, you said "B&M doesn't not consider Leviathan a Giga. However, Canada's Wonderland does. When I was at the park yesterday I noticed that the posters for sale said "Type of Coaster: Giga Coaster"". I'm just wondering if this changed in some way, because your answers seem to conflict with one another. Thanks! --GoneIn60 (talk) 18:39, 4 November 2013 (UTC)


 * I forgot that I said that. But either way, it still supports what I said on the other page that "Giga" is a Cedar Fair term used only for marketing. To be honest, I don't care if we say that its part of the "giga-class"....as long as the article doesn't say the type/model is a Giga (because it isn't).-- Dom497 ( talk ) 20:09, 4 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Right, I agree. It's a "class" of roller coasters, not a "type". --GoneIn60 (talk) 20:23, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

GA backlog drive
Hi Dom497. Thanks for preparing the backlog drive page in your userspace. When do you think you'll be ready to move it into the project namespace? I think it would be good to have a centralized drive page, so that we solicit pledges from other users, we can post more information on the drive's page. Edge3 (talk) 02:05, 5 November 2013 (UTC)


 * The page is here but it isn't complete. If you think its a good idea to move it now and just place a notice saying the page isn't complete I'm fine with that.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 19:45, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, also, you said you would be willing to donate. Just so I can put it on the backlog page do you know how much you would be willing to (per review)? If you don't, don't worry about it.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 00:51, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
 * You can put me down for 5 cents per review, and feel free to take your time on setting up the page. I probably won't start advertising the pledge drive until later this week. Edge3 (talk) 01:02, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks!-- Dom497 ( talk ) 01:03, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I have finished developing the page.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 15:56, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Excellent! Thanks for letting me know. I will start attempting to get more pledges. Edge3 (talk) 23:46, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter for November 2013
Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some feature changes, major infrastructure improvements to make the system more stable, dependable and extensible, some minor toolbar improvements, and fixing bugs.

A new form parsing library for language characters in Parsoid caused the corruption of pages containing diacritics for about an hour two weeks ago. Relatively few pages at the English Wikipedia were affected, but this created immediate problems at some other Wikipedias, sometimes affecting several dozen pages. The development teams for Parsoid and VisualEditor apologize for the serious disruption and thank the people who reported this emergency at VisualEditor/Feedback and on the public IRC channel, #mediawiki-visualeditor.

There have been dozens of changes since the last newsletter. Here are some of the highlights:


 * Accidental deletion of infoboxes and other items: You now need to press the Delete or Backspace key twice to delete a template, reference or image. The first time, the item becomes selected, and the second time, it is removed.  The need to press the delete key twice should make it more obvious what you are doing and help avoid accidental removals of infoboxes and similar (bug 55336).
 * Switch from VisualEditor to the wikitext editor: A new feature lets you make a direct, one-way editing interface change, which will preserve your changes without needing to save the page and re-open it in the wikitext editor (bug 50687). It is available in a new menu in the action buttons by the Cancel button (where the "Page Settings" button used to be). Note that this new feature is not currently working in Firefox.
 * Categories and Languages are also now directly available in that menu. The category suggestions drop-down was appearing in the wrong place rather than below its input box, which is now fixed. An incompatibility between VisualEditor and the deployed Parsoid service that prevented editing categories and language links was fixed.
 * File:, Help: and Category: namespaces: VisualEditor was enabled for these namespaces the on all wikis (bug 55968), the Portal: and Viquiprojecte: namespaces on the Catalan Wikipedia (bug 56000), and the Portal: and Book: namespaces on the English Wikipedia (bug 56001).
 * Media item resizing: We improved how files are viewed in a few ways. First, inline media items can now be resized in the same way that has been possible with block ones (like thumbnails) before. When resizing a media item, you can see a live preview of how it will look as you drag it (bug 54298). While you are dragging an image to resize it, we now show a label with the current dimensions (bug 54297). Once you have resized it, we fetch a new, higher resolution image for the media item if necessary (bug 55697). Manual setting of media item sizes in their dialog is nearly complete and should be available next week. If you hold down the shift key whilst resizing an image, it will now snap to a 10 pixel grid instead of the normal free-hand sizing. The media item resize label now is centered while resizing regardless of which tool you use to resize it.
 * Undo and redo: A number of improvements were made to the transactions system which make undoing and redoing more reliable during real-time collaboration (bug 53224).
 * Save dialogue: The save page was re-written to use the same code as all other dialogs (bug 48566), and in the process fixed a number of issues. The save dialog is re-accessible if it loses focus (bug 50722), or if you review a null edit (bug 53313); its checkboxes for minor edit, watch the page, and flagged revisions options now layout much more cleanly (bug 52175), and the tab order of the buttons is now closer to what users will expect (bug 51918). There was a bug in the save dialog that caused it to crash if there was an error in loading the page from Parsoid, which is now fixed.
 * Links to other articles or pages sometimes sent people to invalid pages. VisualEditor now keeps track of the context in which you loaded the page, which lets us fix up links in document to point to the correct place regardless of what entry point you launched the editor from—so the content of pages loaded through   and   both now have text links that work if triggered (bug 48915).
 * Toolbar links: A bug that caused the toolbar's menus to get shorter or even blank when scrolled down the page in Firefox is now fixed (bug 55343).
 * Numbered external links: VisualEditor now supports Parsoid's changed representation of numbered external links (bug 53505).
 * Removed empty templates: We also fixed an issue that meant that completely empty templates became impossible to interact with inside VisualEditor, as they didn't show up (bug 55810).
 * Mathematics formulae: If you would like to try the experimental LaTeX mathematics tool in VisualEditor, you will need to opt-in to Beta Features. This is currently available on Meta-wiki, Wikimedia Commons, and Mediawiki.org. It will be available on all other Wikimedia sites on 21 November.
 * Browser testing support: If you are interested in technical details, the browser tests were expanded to cover some basic cursor operations, which uncovered an issue in our testing framework that doesn't work with cursoring in Firefox; the Chrome tests continue to fail due to a bug with the welcome message for that part of the testing framework.
 * Load time: VisualEditor now uses content language when fetching TemplateData information, so reducing bandwidth use, and users on multi-language or multi-script wikis now get TemplateData hinting for templates as they would expect (bug 50888).
 * Reuse of VisualEditor: Work on spinning out the user experience (UX) framework from VisualEditor into oojs-ui, which lets other teams at Wikimedia (like Flow) and gadget authors re-use VisualEditor UX components, is now complete and is being moved to a shared code repository.
 * Support for private wikis: If you maintain a private wiki at home or at work, VisualEditor now supports editing of private wikis, by forwarding the Cookie: HTTP header to Parsoid ( set to true) (bug 44483).  (Most private wikis will also need to install Parsoid and node.js, as VisualEditor requires them.)

Looking ahead: If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 22:00, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * VisualEditor will be released to some of the smaller Wikipedias on 02 December 2013. If you are active at one or more smaller Wikipedias where VisualEditor is not yet generally available, please see the list at VisualEditor/Rollouts.
 * Public office hours on IRC to discuss VisualEditor with Product Manager James Forrester will be held on Monday, 2 December, at 1900 UTC and on Tuesday, 3 December, at 0100 UTC. Bring your questions.  Logs will be posted on Meta after each office hour completes.
 * In terms of feature improvements, one of the major infrastructure projects affects how inserting characters works, both using your computer's built-in Unicode input systems and through a planned character inserter tool for VisualEditor. The forthcoming rich copying and pasting feature was extended and greater testing is currently being done.  Work continues to support the improved reference dialog to quickly add citations based on local templates.

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MassMessage has been deployed to all Wikimedia wikis. For help using the new tool, please check out its help page or drop a note on Meta-Wiki.

With over 400,000 edits to Wikimedia wikis, EdwardsBot has served us well; however EdwardsBot will no longer perform local or global message delivery after December 31, 2013.

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Your GA nomination of Dæmonen
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Dæmonen you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Gabriel Yuji -- 16:11, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Dæmonen
The article Dæmonen you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Dæmonen for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Gabriel Yuji -- 01:32, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Barnstars
In a more normal Backlog drive. I would be expecting all my nominees (I have 12 articles at GAN right now) to be evaluated and be too busy to do a lot. I am not sure how this one is going to go, because it does not look like we are going to get that many reviews done. I.E., I am not sure how much time I will have. The barnstars are not such a big thing. I'll change my comment.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 08:05, 4 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I don't understand what your trying to say up until the barnstar part. Regarding the barnstars, they aren't supposed to be a big thing; if you are reviewing for the barnstars, you are reviewing for the wrong reason.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 20:13, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Well a lot of elimination drive reviewers in the past have shot for barnstars. A disproportionate number did just enough reviews to get particular ones. Anyways, I have already revised my statement to say that I am not shooting for a barnstar, but could be motivated to review more if one of my articles gets reviewed.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:18, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Dynamic Attractions / RoboCoaster / KUKA / etc
Here's a series of business arrangements which rivals that of US Thrill Rides which we discussed a few weeks ago. I was going to build up the Dynamic Structures article but realised other articles were needed. Hope you can follow ;-) Anyway, I'm going to develop articles for Dynamic Attractions and RoboCoaster, and hopefully present all this in a nice clear way. Themeparkgc   Talk  06:10, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Dynamic Structures enters into the amusement industry by repairing Premier Rides' Poltergeist which was sufferring problems with steel fatigue
 * RoboCoaster Ltd. is founded in 2000 with the goal of developing robotic-based amusement rides
 * RoboCoaster partners with KUKA and develops the G1 systems (e.g. Legoland)
 * RoboCoaster partners with Dynamic Structures in 2004 to develop G2 systems which feature KUKA arms (i.e. Forbidden Journey)
 * Dynamic Structures spins off some amusement ride development to a sister company Dynamic Attractions in 2011
 * Dynamic Structures offers AGVs in partnership with Snox, however, RoboCoaster appear to showcase an identical product in conjunction with Simworx. These appear to be different to Dynamic Attractions' offering
 * RoboCoaster and Dynamic Attractions together offer a flying theatre, that appears to be different to that offered by Dynamic Structures
 * Dynamic Attractions is said to be led by the founder of Premier Rides, who I believe was Jim Seay
 * Dynamic Attractions proposed a concept for the Big Red roller coaster, which uses track suspicously like Premier's, but no mention of that company


 * Um, I've been skiing all day and really want to go to bed (and its only 7 in Toronto!) so I'm not quite understanding what this has to do with UTR (is this referring to the "crazy" business model I said before? And if so, is this just to prove that other companies do the same? If so, yaaaa, I understand!!!). If not, can you please clarify...sorry.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 23:50, 7 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry, that was exactly what I was meaning. Themeparkgc   Talk  23:52, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

GAN backlog drive review team
Hi Dom497. First of all, I want to thank you for maintaining the GAN backlog drive. It's running quite smoothly, thanks to your efforts. Do you still need help on the review team? I'd be happy to join you and assist your efforts. Edge3 (talk) 05:38, 23 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks! And yes please!-- Dom497 ( talk ) 12:41, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Reviewer
Hi Dom497, can an user who is reviewing articles at the GAN Backlog drive be a reviewer also provided that the user does not review the reviews of his own articles? RRD13 (talk) 18:10, 23 December 2013 (UTC)


 * You can be part of the Review Team even if you are part of the drive. However, you can not review your own reviews.-- Dom497 ( talk ) 19:41, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your quick reply.But I have added my name here - WikiProject Good articles/GAN Backlog Drives/December 2013/Review Team, but my name does not appear at WikiProject Good articles/GAN Backlog Drives/December 2013. :-( RRD13 (talk) 04:05, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey, I think I fixed the issue. Let me know if you still can't see your name. :) -- Dom497 ( talk ) 04:08, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

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GA review
Hey, question about reviewing GANs and who is credited with the GA. Instructions for reviewers say you should be bold and try to fix any minor things yourself. What if some things are not so minor, perhaps even substantial, but I as the reviewer am still willing to make the necessary changes to pass the article. I guess my first question is should I refrain from making too many changes myself? If that is okay, which I would think it would be, and the article does pass, would it be considered unseemly to credit myself with helping promote it (e.g. use User GA template on my user page)? Thanks &mdash; MusikAnimal talk 17:59, 27 December 2013 (UTC)


 * If you want to go ahead and fix all the issues you find in an article (big or small), in my opinion I wouldn't see that as an issue. Regarding who gets credit, in my opinion, even if you don't make any edits to the article you can still give yourself credit for promoting the article as you are the one who reviewed it!-- Dom497 ( talk ) 19:38, 27 December 2013 (UTC)