User talk:Donaldd23

Article deletions
Can you please not alert me of a PROD or article deletion again, I barely visit this site nowadays let alone have time to waste on trying to save articles that deletionists have made up their mind aren't notable anyway. Thankyou.† Encyclopædius  16:57, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Encyclopædius, I only started alerting you again because I was called out for not alerting you. I will try to not notify you again in the future. Thank you. Donaldd23 (talk) 17:44, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

The short Argentine film stubs can be deleted, I never got around to filling them out. They can be restarted at a later date when somebody is willing to do it. German TV series and rivers too, a few thousand there in total. Feel free to prod as many as you want just don't template me. :-)† Encyclopædius  18:26, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

"It would make a considerable difference if I didn't get notices from User:Donaldd23. I have asked him in the past not to spam my talk page with messages. Dr. Blofeld 09:20, 10 May 2022 (UTC)"

Precious
You are recipient no. 2600 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Moving pages to Draft space
Hello, Donaldd23,

If you want to move pages around from main space to Draft space, there are a few things you need to do to help out your fellow editors. First, please tag the original page for speedy deletion, CSD R2 so that the page is brought to admins' attention and doesn't get forgotten. It should be deleted as a cross-namespace redirect from main space. Twinkle is an excellent tool to use any time you want to tag pages for any type of deletion (CSD, PROD, AFD/RFD/TFD/etc.) or just to indicate problems in an article by tagging a section. It's a very helpful tool for editors.

Also, you need to post a notification on the talk page of the page creator. And there is another tool here that can help you out! User:Evad37/MoveToDraft is a script that most editors who "Draftify" articles use because it not only moves the article but it also posts a notification for you. I recommend it. Again, a very handy tool. And, if you like, both the Draftify script and Twinkle will keep logs if you want, to keep track of pages you have worked on. Thank you for your work. Liz Read! Talk! 01:58, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Liz, thank you for your advice. I appreciate that you took the time to offer your knowledge.  I will consider these options in the future if I move anything else to draft.  Thanks again!  Donald D23   talk to me  02:04, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you!
Hello, Donaldd23,

I run into your work regularly at the daily PROD list as I check it over the course of a day and I just wanted to thank you for tracking down and tagging for proposed deletion some truly marginal films that have been made. I don't know how you find these articles but I don't think their deletion is a big loss for the project. I also help out at WP:REFUND a bit and I haven't seen an editor come back and contest their deletion which can happen with some PRODs (especially those about companies). Any way, thanks for helping clean things up. Liz Read! Talk! 18:56, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi User:Liz. Thanks for the kind words.  I appreciate it.  I regularly check Category:Film articles with topics of unclear notability to see what other editors think are films which aren't really up to have their own pages.  I usually do a BEFORE to see if I can save them, and there are quite a lot I come across where I find enough citations that I then add to an article and then remove the notability tag.  The ones I can't find anything for I try to PROD to see if there are any editors who object...or who can find sources I couldn't.  But, again, thanks!  Donald D23   talk to me  19:31, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Tracking down references to improve articles is better than deleting them so, bravo! I think that would be a challenge since most of the movies I see tagged are international ones and you'd be evaluating reviews in newspapers in non-English speaking countries. Working on Wikipedia makes me wish I spoke languages in addition to English. I've studied several when I was in school but never mastered any of them. Oh, well, stay well! Liz Read! Talk! 22:30, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello, Donaldd23,
 * It would help reviewing administrators if, when you remove a PROD tag, you state this in your edit summary (something like "de-PROD" or "removing PROD tag"). It just helps to see which edit has done this when we are scanning over a page history. Thank you! Liz Read! Talk! 00:40, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Something to look out for with misused PRODs
Some misused PRODs could be changed to WP:G7s, rather than simply removed.

I saw one recently where you correctly de-PRODded a draft, however, since it had been PRODded by the original creator and only substantial contributor, it might have been more suitable to swap it for a (and possibly let the user know that you did so). Just something to keep an eye out for, cheerio. Mako001 (C) (T)  🇺🇦 11:13, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank you!
Hello, Donaldd23,

I see now that I already have left a message for you earlier in 2022 about the PRODs you do but I just wanted to compliment you again on your Proposed Deletion work. It is clear that you always check out the page history thoroughly, I have never had to remove a PROD tag from an article you PROD'd because it has been PROD'd before. You might be surprised by the fact that many editors never look at the page history to see if an article has been PROD'd before. So, thanks again for checking and double-checking articles you tag for deletion to ensure that all of the i's are dotted and the t's are crossed. It makes things much easier for admins who review the daily PRODs to know that I don't need to devote extra scrutiny to the ones you tag. Have a great 2023! Liz Read! Talk! 03:37, 3 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello, Donaldd23,
 * I'll just add to this message instead of starting a new section on your talk page since it is also about your PROD work. I just wanted to say that I appreciate you PROD'ding small groups of articles at different times over the 24 hour clock. Different administrators "patrol" the PROD list at different times of the day and it is a lot easier to do the review and deletion work in small groups throughout the course of a day or night than to do many articles all at once at the same time each day. I know it is a lot easier to do things in one fell swoop but speaking for myself, it's easier to handle 4-7 PROD'd articles every few hours than 12-15+ all at the same time. In fact, although your User page says you live in the EST time zone, you must keep your own working hours because I've seen your PROD'd articles at all hours of the day and night! Maybe a little insomnia? I use to suffer from that and came to Wikipedia to work but I found it was actually stimulating, not sleep-inducing so I eventually stopped.
 * Any way, thank you for your consistent efforts to clean up our film and TV series areas of the project. If you ever wanted to review children's TV shows, I think we have a lot of dead wood there as well as we seem to have had a fair number of editors creating articles on obscure children's programming over the past two decades. Thanks again! Liz Read! Talk! 19:39, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your kind words. I do spread them out throughout the day, mainly because I do make my own work hours, but also because it takes time to research and vet the articles before nomination (even though I have one or two users who regularly claim I don't do BEFORE). And, yes, I don't sleep normal hours so I get on here whenever I can't sleep and do a little work. I am really trying to clean up the film/TV notability tags. At one time the films had 2000+ tagged, but now hover around 10-20. When I started the TV, they had about 1800, but now have less than 900. As you know, they have not all been removed through deletion...I improve what I am able to and remove the tag (or remove it if has already been addressed, but an editor forgot to remove the tag themselves.)  Again, thanks again!  Donald D23   talk to me  19:47, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

BLPPROD
Just letting you know that the rules around BLPPROD are a bit counter-intuitive. If it has any sort of external link, including authority control, the BLPPROD is invalid. In cases like this a regular PROD might be necessary. With that said, I reiterate the messages above thanking you for your work in this area. I'm trying to revive WP:Unreferenced BLP rescue and source or delete all of the unreferenced BLPs, but they just never end! Thebiguglyalien ( talk ) 14:08, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

PRODs
Hello, Donaldd23,

I see you have moved on from tagging obscure foreign movies for proposed deletion to tagging obscure album recordings. I've noticed that most of these PROD'd articles are challenged and are turned into redirects to the artist's article. You might consider doing this rather than tagging them for proposed deletion. We do have some editors who check out PRODs before they are deleted but it's just a thought that these articles can be made into redirects rather than deleted. You ever want to turn your PROD eye into clearing out some of the articles on obscure children's TV shows, cartoons, anime or their characters, I think you'd be doing the project a service! We have a lot of content that is more appropriate for Fandom than Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. Liz Read! Talk! 06:22, 11 June 2023 (UTC)


 * I came to leave you a message and found that I already did months ago. Instead of PRODding albums, please consider redirecting them to the artist's article. I just did that with about 5 or 6 articles you PROD'd and there are more than will receive that treatment tomorrow. It would be easier if you just chose to do this yourself rather than tagging them for proposed deletion. Please consider doing this in the future. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 00:20, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


 * You might also consider archiving your talk page rather than deleting messages. I thought you hadn't received any talk page messages for months until I looked into the page history. Archiving is easy and allows you to quickly find messages from the past to see if you had had contact with an editor before. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 00:23, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for being a good editor
I appreciate and respect your withdrawing your deleting nomination at:
 * Articles for deletion/Kid in a Candy Store

Too many editors see AfDs as a test of wills. It's refreshing to see you and editor Cunard instead approach it as a thoughtful quest for a better encyclopaedia.

-- A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 16:19, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Film section sequence
"Plot and Cast are always first 2 sections of a film article" ...

To be clear... per https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Film#:~:text=There%20is%20no%20defined%20order,Wikipedia%20policies%20or%20participant%20consensus... there is no defined order of these sections. :) milladrive (talk) 03:13, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started
Hello, Donaldd23. Thank you for your work on Puppet Master: Doktor Death. North8000, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

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North8000 (talk) 15:03, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Shep Unplugged
What's your take on Shep Unplugged? Last time around, discussion on the redirect just went around in circles and I think was clouded by my more tendentious attitude. Since then, the only sources even remotely claiming it existed have gone down, and nothing exists but Wikipedia mirrors. I still maintain this was a WP:HOAX perpetrated by a singular personal blog (which was cited in the RFD as "proof" it existed). Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 22:41, 4 March 2024 (UTC)


 * I don't think there is a place for it on Wikipedia. I, also, couldn't find anything to establish it existed. It's a redirect to the man, so I think it is fine. The only other option would be to have the redirect deleted and salted so that it cannot be recreated, but is it worth the effort? Hope this helps. Donald D23   talk to me  23:11, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Redirects are cheap, but they have to make sense. This one does not make sense to me, so I think it should go. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 23:17, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:05, 25 May 2024 (UTC)