User talk:Donama/archivelist/2007-01-07

This page is an archive (2006-05-19&mdash;2007-01-07). Please do not alter it in any way. Archived by &mdash; Donama 05:20, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: Thanks
''Thanks for fixing the Abu al-Hasan 'Ali link, Tyomitch. Do you know if there are already articles for any of the other Marinid Rulers? Cheers! — Донама 03:35, 18 May 2006 (UTC)''
 * I don't know. I was just processing the Category:Articles needing Arabic script when I came across this article, so incidentally I fixed the link. --tyomitch 15:59, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for the compliment! The template looked pretty novice and I also created another one-- which is more fitting. -Sohailstyle 19:29, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

It's actually good for provinces and territories. -Sohailstyle 06:36, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

dialects
Hi, I do agree it looks a bit messy. The different shades mean there are differnt languages (or dialects) spoken in that region. I used shades of green to indicate they all belong to Lower_Germanic languages (i.e. Dutch) whereas languages as Frysian and Limburgisch are not related to Dutch.

The Black area is a high-German part, although even Germany could be sub-divided in dialects. The French (Blue) speaking part of Belgium has a lot of different languages (such as Champenois, Gaumais, Picard and Walloon), but I chose to confine myself to the Germanic and Celtic languages in the Low Countries.

Whenever I have time I will try to change it a bit. Jorgenpfhartogs 12:06, 23 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the explanation. Let me know if I can help out with updating the image. Cheers &mdash; Donama 13:27, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: Japanese gardens

 * Hi Eric... I am wondering about the words "senzui" (or sansui) and "kare senzui" (or karesansui). What is the correct spelling of these words in English?


 * There is an article about Karesansui but the article for Sansui is about an electronics company. Is an article about "sansui" (the "mountain and lake garden") or is it spelt differently.


 * I am asking in order to correct mistakes in the Himeji Gardens, Adelaide article. Thanks! &mdash; Donama


 * Also, what is 水墨山水画? (I see that 水 means water and 山 means mountain) Ta! &mdash; Donama 02:36, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

The spellings of the Japanese are "sansui" and "kare-sansui" (with or without the dash or a space, as you prefer). Kare-sansui would be the dry rock gardens depicting mountain/water landscapes; it would appear that non-dry gardens are called simply "tei'en" (庭園 - garden) or "Nihon tei'en" (日本庭園 - Japanese garden). Sansui (山水) seems to be merely the common subject matter of such paintings (next para.) or gardens, and does not appear to have a page of its own in either English or Japanese.

水墨画 (suibokuga) is apparently identical to sumi-e (墨絵 - ink paintings). According to the Japanese page, 山水画 (sansuiga) is a genre of sumi-e which came from China: "Though works do exist which depict real vistas, most sansuiga are depictions of landscapes imagined from a rearrangement of realistic elements." If that doesn't make sense I'll try to translate more, but art's not my forte. 水墨山水画 (which would be "suiboku sansui ga", wherever you prefer the spaces or dashes) likely refers to a general grouping of those types of pictures.

Hope that helped. Eric&#39;s penguin 05:21, 24 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Immensely. Thank you! &mdash; Donama 05:46, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Editor Review
Just thought I'd say thanks for such glowing comments - cheers! michael talk 07:11, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

O-Bahn Map
You did a terrific job with the Burnside map last time - is there any chance you'd be able to do a map for the O-Bahn Busway article? I can provide 'source' maps if you wish. I've done up a mudmap here Cheers, michael talk 14:03, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Love the way you've decided to do the rest of the design. Cheers, michael talk 03:09, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Domestic sheep
Certainly, and thank you for asking rather than automatically reverting. The reason I've changed "External links" to "References" comes from these sections of Cite_sources, quoted verbatim below. (Please note in Item 2 below that the italics are theirs, and not inserted by me.)

If, as you say, those additional items below the footnotes were not used in the article, they indeed would be External links as you had. I guess I'm surprised none of those things contributed to the article. Anyway, here's the citation. Thanks, and happy Wiki-ing

1)
 * Complete citations in a "References" section


 * Complete citations, also called "references," are collected at the end of the article under a ==References== heading. Under this heading, list the comprehensive reference information as a bulleted (*) list, one bullet per reference work.

2)
 * External links/Further reading


 * The ==External links== or ==Further reading== section is placed after the references section, and offers books, articles, and links to websites related to the topic that might be of interest to the reader, but which have not been used as sources for the article. Where there is a references section, editors may prefer to call the external links section "further reading," because the references section may also contain external links, and the further reading section may contain items that are not online.

So sources used to write an article go under "References", and other helpful citations go under "External links" if they're linkable and "Further reading" if they're not online. — Tenebrae 09:53, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Map Request
Hello, You did a marvolous job with the Burnside map so I was wondering if you are able to amke a map for the layout of Ascot Park as I am currently working on that article... Thanks ^^ PS sorry I am not able to supply any reference maps.. --Z3N 07:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Zenith, I can do this, but not straight away. Also, I must have a reference map. Otherwise it is quite a lot slower. If need be, scan one and email it to me.
 * And hey, you appear to be new here on Wikipedia -- well kind of. Are you? Or have you been here for a while without a username or using a different username? &mdash; Donama 06:28, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

2006 election image licenses
Hey Donama, are you able to help me fix up the copyright bits for the images on the 2006 election page? I've tried reading the wikies and looking at the victorian page but I'm not sure if I can use the same license they do. The uploaded images they claim as their own? I'm not sure on this. Their two party leaders and two electoral boundary pictures all have approval on the victorian 2006 election page, how can I do the equivelent for the SA 2006 election page? michael suggested in my user talk that I talk to you about them as you have prior experience. your help would be very much appreciated :-) Timeshift 06:10, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi Timeshift, you want coloured maps showing which party won in which electorate? I'll see what I can do, but I'm afraid I just can't do it immediately. It looks like I have a backlog of 3 map drawings to do, which is no problem -- these map-tracing sorts of drawings are pretty easy to do -- but it requires me to be at home on my mac which has Photoshop. And I'll be away for the weekend. Perhaps early next week. I saved the current images you're using on my desktop in case Wikipedia deletes them in the meantime for being copyrighted. Cheers &mdash; Donama 06:21, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
 * That would be very much appreciated, thanks :) Timeshift 07:43, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Hows them maps coming along? Mine got deleted :( Timeshift 02:04, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Mining in Australia is the new ACOTF
Hi. You voted for Mining in Australia for Australian Collaboration of the fortnight. It has been selected, so please help to improve the article in any way you can. Thanks. Scott Davis Talk 13:40, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

roman empire map
Thanks! I hope I got the areas right --Astrokey 44 12:39, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I think it looks alright where it is, though you can move it if you know a better place to put it? Regards, --Astrokey 44 01:45, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the barnstar! --Astrokey 44 04:31, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Metayage & sharecropping
Hi. I bumped into an uncatted stray article on Metayage System which I've now linked to sharecropping in a way that I hope makes sense. --Mereda 11:54, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for bringing Metayage System to my attention. To be honest, I've never heard of it, but that doesn't mean anything :) By the way, is it actually spelled "métayage"? If so, the article should be renamed to the correct term. I think what you did is fine, but it's possible metayage and sharefarming should be merged. What do you think? Should we leave as is or propose a merge? (Just have a feeling if I had a French-English dictionary, métayage would directly translate to sharefarming -- actually just checked and Google translates metayage to "share-cropping" -- I guess that's because Google uses American English). &mdash; Donama 01:18, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Someone else - Bejnar - has now spotted the old 1911 "métayage" piece and tagged it as a problem, so I've moved our conversation to the article's talk page Talk:Metayage System. Words in 5 languages, including métayage and something else in Japanese, are shown at the foot of the existing article on sharecropping. Checking my French-English dictionary (Oxford-Hachette 2001) for "métayage" actually gives "tenant farming GB" and "sharecropping US". That doesn't answer the question, but it does flag up the issue of whether we're accurately describing systems of agricultural labor, or land tenure, or both. It looks to me, from 10 minutes reading (so I'm an expert!), as if every culture/continent might have had some sort of variant form of sharefarming, with some of them surviving into modern times. The scope of all that, using existing material at this stage, might be close to the upper limit for a single article; so a neater answer might be a set of "sharefarming by continent" articles. So, instead of merger, I'd suggest moving Metayage System to something like Sharefarming in Europe and then giving it a quick rewrite as the next step. That's got the advantage of breaking the job into easy project steps. Or would anyone (not me!) like to take on the heavy end of rewriting everything to make sense in one big piece? --Mereda 07:36, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

New Australian Collaboration is Census in Australia
Hi. You voted for Census in Australia as Australian Collaboration of the fortnight. It has been selected, so please help to improve it in any way you can. Thankyou. Scott Davis Talk 14:32, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Velle is my nickname
Hi Donama.

You wrote me on May 28 about the meaning of Velle. My real name is Thomas Wessel, and somehow my surname changed into Welle (means world in German, I am Danish by the way), and when the domain welle.dk was ocupied I changed to Velle. And I have no idea about what it means in other contexts. Only I once saw a magazine "Velle Magazine" :)

Velle 19:11, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

A short Esperanzial update
As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.

As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Esperanza/June 2006 elections.

Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, &mdash;Cel es tianpower háblame 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

History of Australia is new ACOTF
Hi, you voted for the History of Australia series as Australian Collaboration of the fortnight. It has been selected, so please contribute in any way you can. Thankyou. --Scott Davis Talk 00:52, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Great Barrier Reef
Thanks for fixing up the referencing for Great Barrier Reef. :) What part of WP:CITE told you how to do that properly?  I fell back on good old Harvard, I'm afraid.  Thanks again!  - Malkinann 00:34, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi Malkinann. Thanks. It's true that WP:CITE doesn't really tell editors which citation templates are available. I think this is because it's not official Wikipedia policy that you must use them. Harvard style is completely acceptable too. So the way the references were done prior to my changes was fine, but using the cite web template made the url linkable. That's why I changed them. I guess the other advantage is that the references look consistent with the refs on many other Wikipedia articles too. I'm glad you weren't annoyed that I changed the format from the Harvard one! Cheers &mdash; Donama 01:05, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Kava
I don't know if it was down to enthusiasm or misunderstanding on your edit of Kava: you reversed  the author's name  {{cite web | author=Blumenthal,Mark   -whilst it seem to be the Wikipedia  style to put surname first. (Otherwise excellent tidy up!) --Aspro 13:06, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
 * No worries! Sorry about that. Cheers Donama 00:09, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Cats
Good work on categorisation. I was wondering about the capitalisation of Category:Without Borders Organisations - I think it should be Category:Without Borders organisations (cap B as it's part of the title of the organisations, but small o). I wanted to check with you as it's not a simple move - it seems the only way is to create a separate cat, and edit each article.

After that's sorted we can add other organisations - this link can help find some. --Singkong2005 tc 00:00, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


 * No probs. I did it in a hurry. A agree it needs changing. I realised this mistake too, but moving a category is harder than moving an article. Perhaps just flag the original for speedy deletion and create the correctly name category afresh. Cheers! &mdash; Donama 01:59, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Meetup on 24th August 2006
Apologies if you're already aware of this, but the Inaugural Adelaide Meetup will take place on Thursday 24th of August at Brougham Place Uniting Church, thanks to Alex Sims. Please indicate if you will attend or not.

This message left by May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91 ($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) on behalf of [ælfəks], 09:47, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Two by Two Document Scans
On 8 January 2006, you wrote on the Two by Two discussion page:

"Of course, Two by Two has a real lack of published resources. We aim to upload a lot of scans of documents and other Two by Two related material to Wiki commons very soon so hopefully this should assist"

I was just wondering if you had done so, and is there a link? I'm still fairly new to Wikipedia, but I'd be very interested in helping to put together a better article on Two-by-Twos. My family has been involved in this group for four generations. I was a regular participant for 15 years: from ages 9 to 24. There are things I've recently discovered about the group, including its origins through various sites on the Web. I think the group is interesting in its own right, but also I think a source of honest and verifiable facts would be helpful to a lot of people who've been involved with this group. I think Wikipedia would be an ideal place for such a fact repository. Postxian 21:14, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Rely
I have put up a speedy tag on the page Rely, Pas-de-Calais which you seem to have created by mistake. Pascal.Tesson 03:26, 17 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't have admin access but the speedy tag probably means it will be gone in 20 minutes. Cheers. Pascal.Tesson 03:30, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Bushfires
"level of disastrousness" ;) --Steve 01:28, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't care if you use strict British English -- I'll use Aussie English ;) (with proper spelling though) &mdash; Donama 01:46, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Electronic health record
Your rewrite of the lead paragraph was excellent. Really much clearer. Regards, Ryanjo 02:39, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

EHR and EMR merge
I merged the Electronic Health Record and the Electronic medical records as to me there seemed to be a majority leaning towards the merge. As this has been backlogged since January, I really think an action on this merge should be taken soon. I'd like to know what's your opinion on this issue? I also noticed that you were one of the people supporting the merge. What action do you think should be taken?  Cat tleG irl  '' talk 03:27, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * CattleGirl, sorry I reverted your changes with little explanation, but I think you got the wrong idea about this merge. I think all of us who've been discussing this merge support the merge, but disagreement exists as to what should be merged with what.


 * So yes this merge request is backlogged, but discussion on how to proceed with it still continues. The EHR article must continue to contain information about EMRs because in health informatics theory an EMR is a special kind of EHR (ie conceptually EMR is a subset of EHR). The problem with the merge is that there is confusion over the technical meaning of EMR as a special kind of EHR and a more generic meaning of EMR as simply another word for EHR.


 * As to my opinion on the action that should be take... I think the EMR article should be replaced with a redirect to EHR. Much of the information in EMR is already in EHR -- and that which is not in EHR already should be copied into the relevant parts from EMR article. I think we need more time to agree on this though. Thanks for your patience! &mdash; Donama 07:06, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Map Needed for Oaklands Park..
I have seen the maps you have made and I love them. I need a map for Oaklands Park, South Australia. Umm.. Reference Map.. I can't find anything good but the closest I can get is this 

There is no rush on the map and I will understand if you can't do it.. Thanks

.::-The Doctor- "Would you like a Jelly Baby?" 05:29, 16 November 2006 (UTC)::.

Australian Collaboration of the fortnight
Hi. You voted for Australian Broadcasting Corporation as Australian Collaboration. It has been selected, so please help to improve it in any way you can. Scott Davis Talk 13:59, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Australian Collaboration of the fortnight again
Hi. You nominated Torres Strait Islanders as Australian Collaboration of the fortnight. It has been selected, so please help to improve it in any way you can. You might like to put in a todo list to help the rest of us know how to help. --Scott Davis Talk 14:32, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

another ACOTF
As a previous editor of the article, I thought you might be interested to know that mulesing is the new Australian collaboration of the fortnight. --Scott Davis Talk 12:18, 7 January 2007 (UTC)