User talk:Doncram/Archive 4

HMS Ontario (1780) already exists
Hello, I was looking at recent changes, and I saw your new article on HMS Ontario. You may be interested to know that there is already an article on HMS Ontario (1780). I know that you've gone to some effort to create the stub, but in order to avoid duplication, would you mind changing your stub into a redirect to the current article? I think naming it HMS Ontario (1780) is safer, in case some other HMS Ontario pops up from a different era. Please feel free to expand, modify, or otherwise edit HMS Ontario (1780). Thank you, and have a good day. Xenonice (talk) 01:28, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: to nominate List of NHLs in NY to FL
Hello again, thanks for noticing. I swung by the Kate Mullany House on my way to the Bennington Battlefield site. The gate was again locked (I'm beginning to wonder if the site is ever open...) but with gas at more than $4.00 a gallon I wasn't going to waste the trip. I parked down the hill and hiked up to the battlefield on foot with my friend and got some great shots. Just give me about two hours to get those pictures up and then feel free to nominate it for Featured List status. -Cg-realms (talk • contribs) 19:38, 30 May 2008 (EDT)

Re Wisconson spelling etc
Thank you so much for the note and invitation. You are right, though -- for the moment, anyway, I fix spelling mistakes! Colibri37 Colibri37 (talk) 19:55, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I've got Bennington Battlefield State Historic Site as well-photographed as it's going to be. User:Daniel Case thinks he might try to get a better photo of the Kate Mullany House than the one I took today, and there's a few other local places like the James Hall Office, Lemuel Haynes House, Mount Lebanon Shaker Society and Saratoga Spa State Park that'd I'd planned to swing by at some point. But with gas at $4+/gallon I have no immediate plans to add anything spectacular, so I say go for it. -Cg-realms (talk • contribs) 23:45, 30 May 2008 (EDT)

Hello doncram. I got you message about nominating the NY NHL list for FL. All I want to do first is make the descriptions consistent re: use of periods. I checked with a friend who is both English teacher and journalist and read him a couple of descriptions. He advises dropping the periods from all the sentence fragments. I'll go start this right now. I'll let you know when I'm done. It shouldn't take long. Lvklock (talk) 02:29, 31 May 2008 (UTC)


 * OK, descriptions are editied for no period consistency. I should be available evenings to help with any review comments over the next couple weeks. Lvklock (talk) 05:01, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Not a problem. I have a contemporary pic of Fort Crailo in my queue if you'd like me to add it before nominating; as I said on Cg-realm's talk page I'm going to Albany on Monday and I could structure that trip to get a lot more newer, color pics of not only some of those (also James Hall Office, which we don't have) but the ones along the Hudson (Van Alen House, Montgomery Place). Again, at current gas prices that would not be a trip undertaken otherwise, and the opportunity won't be there for a while. I think the list is ready now.

Speaking of which, you have to like what we've done with the RI list. Every entry's got art. I should probably start emulating what you've done with the NY list and take it to peer review ... I bet we could make an FL of that one pretty easily. Daniel Case (talk) 02:31, 31 May 2008 (UTC)


 * My trip to Albany was pretty sucessful. I got a new (and, I think, quite striking) picture of Harmony Mills, plus some of the other RHPs in central Cohoes and a nearby Erie Canal lock. I got the oblique angle on the Mullany House. I got the Hall Office (a nice little building in a park attached to an old school). I also noted we have no picture for Fort Orange and tried to get one, but it was running late, it was rush hour and not the best time to be looking for a historic site beneath a bridge with multiple levels of overpasses and flyovers. But I will be going to Albany again for things this summer, and there will be another chance. I will be jumping the NHL pics in my queue and uploading them within a few days so we can have them in the list for an FL nom. Daniel Case (talk) 20:47, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi - thanks for the note re the FHL status - I'll be very sporadic for the next week, but after that, I'm ready to help. dm (talk) 22:07, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I can't figure out how to find the archived peer review...I remember there were some specific things to look for on a copy edit. If I knew what to look for, I'd be glad to do some copy editing on this list. Lvklock (talk) 00:07, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Iron turbine windmill
Once you create the article, I'll create a category for it. Technically, it is a smock mill, but it really needs a category of its own (windpumps). I did consider putting windpumps and wind turbines together, but the latter already have their own category. Mjroots (talk) 07:59, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Category:Windpumps now exists, ready for the article. Mjroots (talk) 08:05, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Edward M. Cotter (fireboat)
I finally got the photos and they've been added to the page as a gallery.Shinerunner (talk) 23:22, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

LA descriptions
You're welcome. I'll keep checking back so I can do descriptions for new articles you guys do, if necessary. It's fun to "travel" away from home!Lvklock (talk) 23:57, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


 * A little while ago I used the article Fire Station No. 23 to write a description. Now the link in the table has turned red.  Any idea what could have happened?  BTW, Cbl62 has a DYK in the current bunch, Judson Studios.Lvklock (talk) 02:06, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I feel stupid about this question. I mixed up the fire stations, was really supposed to be Engine Co. 27.  I've fixed it.Lvklock (talk) 00:03, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Speaking of descriptions, on the NM NHL list, once there's an article and a description should I drop the NRHP # from the description field?Lvklock (talk) 00:06, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

El Santuario de Chimayo already exists
Hello, I was looking at recent changes, and I saw your new article on El Santuario De Chimayo. You may be interested to know that there is already an article on El Santuario de Chimayo. I know that you've gone to some effort to create the stub, but in order to avoid duplication, would you mind changing your stub into a redirect to the current article? Thank you, and have a good day. -- Kyok o  00:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Franklin County Courthouse
The third ref is not working. I believe it was your link originally. Can you look at it? It supports the alternative architect.Lvklock (talk) 04:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Oops, I moved it. Now its the fourth ref. BTW, love the destruction pic! Lvklock (talk) 04:13, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. It was fun. I want to go there and see it. I added an alt hook on the DYK page before I read your suggestion. See what you think. I have to hit the sack. If it's still in process tomorrow, I'll think about it some more. Lvklock (talk) 04:35, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I just checked the DYK page. Daniel Case has approved the DYK, so it's just a matter of time.Lvklock (talk) 19:41, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Too bad about the picture, I was hoping it would make it with pic. I'm not worried about the credit.  I'm more of a behind the scenes kind of person anyway.  Glad to help. Lvklock (talk) 18:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Template:Infobox nrhp3
Hi, Doncram. Thanks for your comments over at nrhp2 about the local designations. I think now that everything with local designations is worked out and functional. I would really like to get together all the articles that use infobox nrhp2 to display local designations and switch over to nrhp3. After we've done that, we can simply copy/paste the code to nrhp2 and use the "what links here" feature to change all the 3's in the articles to 2's and possibly delete nrhp3. It seems to me that most or all of the articles that use nrhp2 to display local designations are on your user page User:Doncram/Sandbox4. Can you change over all of these to nrhp3 with the "other" parameters? I would like to combine the two infoboxes as soon as possible so as not to have more articles accidentally created with nrhp3. Thanks for your help! --Dudemanfellabra (talk) 16:40, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The code from nrhp3 has now been copied to nrhp2. You can now begin creating/editing articles to include the nrhp2 infobox with local designations. I haven't yet gotten around to changing all the nrhp3's to nrhp2's because I'm strained on time, but if you'd like to help, the articles are all located here. All that needs to be done is change the number 3 to 2 in the infobox as shown in this diff. Currently Chicago Board of Trade Building is the only article that uses nrhp2 to display a local designation. Thanks for your patience! --Dudemanfellabra (talk) 00:38, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Cook County
Oh don, don, don, you should know better than this, did we forget about the weekly updates? ;) The International Tailoring Company Building was added to the NRHP on April 18, 2008. Just FYI, no biggie, I'm just givin' you a hard time, I fixed it.--IvoShandor (talk) 07:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey, did you drop the description column just temporarily in prep for DYK? I was just going to get started on it, literally in the middle of you dropping it.....not that I'd have much time to spend on it right now anyway, just looking for something to do at lunch. Lvklock (talk) 16:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Re:Syracuse wikipedia heating up...
Hey. If you dig through your e-mail, I sent you the 3 pictures that I wanted you to look at around the time you originally replied to me. The meetup would be nice, except I've moved away from the area I was in that allowed me to visiting Syracuse regularly and take pics. I'm still settling into my new area, but as soon as I do, I'll start looking at NHL pics for that area. I have a few more pics of SU buildings for the building list that I have sitting on my other computer that I'll upload to Wikipedia once I'm settled in. After that, I'll only be able to add text to the article. Someone else will have to take over adding pics of the remaining buildings to it.

Did you see what I wrote you about the issues with Gridley Building. Long story short, (you'll find the original post in your achieve), I believe you mislabeled the buildings in the article you created. Anyway, I'm glad to hear there's more activity in the Syracuse Project. Good to hear from you. -- ZeWrestler  Talk 19:26, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Franklin County Courthouse (Pennsylvania)

 * Yay! The winning DYK phrase, crafted by Lvklock, was: Did you know "... that the Franklin County Courthouse incorporates the walls and columns left after Confederate forces burned the previous courthouse during the American Civil War?"  doncram (talk) 20:03, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the credit sharing! :) It IS fun to see it on the Main Page with my words.Lvklock (talk) 20:16, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Marcellus Formation
I went out this morning and got some pics of Marcellus Shale for the Marcellus Formation article. Thought you might like to see, since you pointed me to the article and the need for pics.User:Lvklock/MarcellusShale I put a message on the article author's talk page for him to take a look and see what, if anything he'd like to add to the article.
 * BTW, he used two of my pics.Lvklock (talk) 01:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Whittaker Chambers Farm
I read the article and the nomination form. It is very interesting. Right this minute, it feels too much like work to develop an article. It's way too hot here. I'll go on mindlessly writing descriptions for tonight. Maybe I'll work on this after the weather breaks tomorrow or the next day. Thanks for noticing my DYK nom. It's the first one I ever did all by myself.Lvklock (talk) 01:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

MD NHLs
The USS Constitution appears twice on the list, once under C and once under U. I've never constructed a list. I don't know how to go about removing the second one. Also, I don't know which to remove and which to leave. And, I don't know what to do about the numbering. Apparently, I don't know much, today :) Can you fix this? Lvklock (talk) 02:19, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for your prompt attention to this matter, and more! :)Lvklock (talk) 13:56, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Mississippi NHLs

 * Yay! Thanks for recognizing me, and now i am finally member of the covetted(sp?) category... :) doncram (talk) 04:34, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

College of Charleston page
Hi Doncram, thanks for your suggestion about adding photos to our page. Our web guy will work on it when he gets a chance. Thanks again! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clydecougar (talk • contribs) 14:10, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

AVR 661
According to the list here http://newsite.navymemorial.org/ed_ship_designations.php, and AVR is an Aircraft Rescue Vehicle. Since it's a Navy thing, we better try to make sure it's not a ship in light of your DYK hook.Lvklock (talk) 20:50, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * This site, http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/radioplane_navy.html, has a pic about halfway down of a 63' AVR boat. Lvklock (talk) 20:53, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * These people have no more info than we do. http://www.ourhistoricplaces.com/Illinois/Chicago/AVR661.html Lvklock (talk) 22:14, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Last comment on this topic...I think it's probably one of these Convoy rescue ship. Lvklock (talk) 22:23, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the positive feedback re. List_of_NHLs_in_IL!
I saw your message on my talk page, and appreciate the positive feedback! Sorry about my snarky comments regarding your snarky comments. I automatically assumed some wiseacre had gone on a vandalizing spree...it never occurred to me that someone like you might've slaved away on a such a gigantic undertaking and were feeling a bit exhausted. I guess I should reread WP:AGF and keep it in mind more often :) Cheers! -Rhrad (talk) 19:15, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Beaubien House
Thanks! I happened to stumble across that article, and it had a really good reference but a really short article (with copyvios), so I rewrote it. A ribbon farm article would be a good idea, but I don't really know anything about them outside of their importance in SE Michigan. (The article you referenced --Seigneurial system of New France-- calls them "long lots," which may be the official name, but I've only ever heard them called "ribbon farms" or the more confusing "strip farms.")

List of Chicago Landmarks
I have not been watching this page so I did not notice your comments. I responded to the two most recent sections --TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 17:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

infobox generator
I wasn't aware of the infobox generator. Thanks for the link! That will be helpful. Zagalejo^^^ 22:47, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Hillforest
In the Hillforest article I notice it says "also known as the Thomas Gaff House." The Thomas T. Gaff House was built by Thomas Gaff's son. Should it be mentioned at the top of the page, as in "for other uses" or just mentioned somewhere in the article?  APK  yada yada  01:44, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Fort Saint Louis
Hi, I saw that you created a disambig page at Fort St. Louis and changed the redirect at Fort Saint Louis to point there. I agree that a disamib page was desperately needed. However, when you changed the redirect at Fort Saint Louis you messed up the linking from a lot of pages that are intending to go to French Texas (until about two months ago, the French Texas article was sitting under the name Fort Saint Louis). Please, please, please go fix the pages that link to Fort Saint Louis to have a piped link to French Texas (French Texas|Fort Saint Louis). I have limited internet access for the next few days and can't fix it myself right now. Karanacs (talk) 02:08, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * THANK YOU! Karanacs (talk) 18:08, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Widehall
The infobox shows at as an NHL, presumably because the database generated it that way. It's an NRHP property in an NHL district, probably. We're almost done with Maryland!  Acroterion  (talk)  11:36, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * By the way, the Gambrill House is mostly significant because it is more or less at the center of the Monocacy Battlefield - the visitor center used to be just down the hill. The Park Service Preservation Training Center is headquartered there.  I believe it was extensively altered in the 1880's to produce the Italianate thing you see today.    Acroterion  (talk)  11:39, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

DYK ref problem
Check Template talk:DYK. Lvklock (talk) 14:48, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The nr portion of nps.gov seems to be down. I added some alternative refs, but you should check it to make sure it's OK. Lvklock (talk) 15:23, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm glad the NR website came back up. It's a much clearer reference than what I found real quick this morning.Lvklock (talk) 21:28, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm glad the refs finally worked out. So far, it looks like you'll get the picture! Lvklock (talk) 07:54, 14 June 2008 (UTC)