User talk:Donovan delaney

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Speedy deletion nomination of Corpse bride video game


Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on Corpse bride video game requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, a "See also" section, book references, category tags, template tags, interwiki links, images, a rephrasing of the title, a question that should have been asked at the help or reference desks, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. —teb728 t c 05:16, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: The Corpse Bride Video Game. (May 13)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by ToonLucas22 was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to User:Donovan delaney/sandbox/The Corpse Bride Video Game. and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=User:Donovan_delaney/sandbox/The_Corpse_Bride_Video_Game. Articles for creation help desk] or on the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:ToonLucas22&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:Afc_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=User:Donovan_delaney/sandbox/The_Corpse_Bride_Video_Game. reviewer's talk page].
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TL22 (talk) 21:29, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Reply to your Articles for Creation Help Desk question
Hello, Donovan delaney! I'm Wikiisawesome. I have replied to your question about a submission at the WikiProject Articles for Creation Help Desk. /wia /talk 00:57, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

May 2015
Hello, I noticed that you may have recently made edits to User:Donovan delaney/sandbox/The Corpse Bride Video Game. while logged out. Making edits while logged out reveals your IP address, which may allow others to determine your location and identity. Wikipedia's policy on multiple accounts usually does not allow the use of more than one account or IP address by one person. If this was not your intention, then please always remember to log in when editing. Thank you. TL2</b><b style= "color:#FFA700">2</b> (<i style= "color:green">talk</i>) 21:23, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User:Donovan delaney/sandbox/The Corpse Bride Video Game.


A tag has been placed on User:Donovan delaney/sandbox/The Corpse Bride Video Game. requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, and/or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free Web hosting service. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 09:57, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

== Question ==

Please grab your text from here (below the banners): https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Donovan_delaney/sandbox/The_Corpse_Bride_Video_Game.&oldid=663239184 as soon as possible, and save it in your deviantart or wherever you want, EXCEPT not anywhere on Wikipedia, as Wikipedia is not a webhost for random content. That userpage of yours will be deleted again. — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 19:34, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * On the talk page of this article, you state that "I have this fake game on my page on Deviant Art.com and on Notepad. I have it on one a Corpse Bride fan page on Deviant Art.com. ". As the only reason that I un-deleted this article was so that you could move the content elsewhere, this appears to have been achieved, and I have re-deleted the article in accordance with Wikipedias policies.  The goal of wikipedia is to host encyclopedic content, and provide the necessary collaborative resources towards that goal. As you have been linked to at least once times WP:NOTWEBHOST explains why a.) I deleted your article and b.) will continue to delete it if it is re-created.  Additionally, you said " I don't need a reliable source because I'm the source."  I encourage you to read Wikipedias reliable sources guidelines.  In response to your claim that "Many people put fake things on Wikipedia.", you are encourage to locate and identify these things, and I will gladly delete them as well.  Hope this helps explain things!  Chris  lk02  Chris Kreider 01:27, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Corpse bride video game


Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice that the page you created was tagged as a test page under section G2 of the criteria for speedy deletion and has been or soon may be deleted. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. -- Non-Dropframe   talk   02:00, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Deletion and blocking, and communication

 * Only admins can delete pages, and only admins can "block" people (blocking means that the blocked editor can't edit anything at all)
 * You can't personally block anyone from editing your userpages
 * When an admin deletes a page then they're doing that in accordance with Wikipedia's policies, and not randomly -- if your page was deleted and you can't understand why then you should feel free to ask for an explanation or clarification (instead of re-creating the page -- that will only get you in trouble).

Also, please, feel free to actually respond to messages left on your talk page. Right here. Post your comment under the comment you're replying to. Communication is important. And people who have posted here probably have this page on their watchlist, so they will see if you respond here. — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 10:25, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a web host
Please be aware that repeated attempts to add your made up game are deprecated to the extent that continued attempts to do so will, in due course, get you blocked to prevent you from continuing. Please read WP:NOTWEBHOST with care. You need to read WP:NOTHERE, too. If you want to have a web site please go to the many excellent providers of free web sites. You may not use Wikipedia for this purpose. Wikipedia is not for things you made up one day. Fiddle  Faddle  12:08, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User:Donovan delaney


A tag has been placed on User:Donovan delaney requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, and/or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free Web hosting service. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:52, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Contested deletion
This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --Donovan delaney (talk) 16:11, 21 May 2015 (UTC)Because I just put it on here!! could you stop deleting my pages. Every time I make a page someone keeps puting a tag on it or deletes it. Am I not allowed to right on here!?? I once had a page called Donovan delaney/sandbox/The Corpse Bride Video Game. But it was deleted four times. I wan't it back by the way! Donovan delaney (talk) 16:11, 21 May 2015 (UTC)


 * You were told multiple times- your made up game isn't suitable for Wikipedia, and so you should take the text and move it to another place, like a webhost. Wikipedia is not a web host, WP:NOTWEBHOST. Also, you were given an opportunity to retrieve the full text, and you decided to post it on Wikipedia instead. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:13, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Is there any specific reason why you're not reading or reacting to messages left on your talk page? Is it too much text? Too many template-messages? Do you understand what we mean by saying that "Wikipedia is not a webhost"? Or is it confusing? Please respond here. — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 16:37, 21 May 2015 (UTC)


 * There was a discussion at the Teahouse that they were involved in. restored the sandbox so they could get the text, but told them not to publish it again, and move it somewhere off-wiki to store it- instead they published it again, and it got deleted. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:40, 21 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I saw all of that. I'm just trying to get them to actually respond to messages on their own talk page. Communication is important but I'm afraid all these template messages are having a counter-productive effect. — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 16:48, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

I did my best to go above and beyond on to a.) give them a chance to retrieve the content and b.) explain why it was inappropriate. I am disappointed that this was the way it played out. Chris lk02  Chris Kreider 17:32, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

May 2015
Please refrain from introducing inappropriate pages to Wikipedia, as doing so is not in accordance with our policies. For more information about creating articles, you may want to read Your first article; you might also consider using the Article Wizard. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Fiddle  Faddle  16:15, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Contested deletion
This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --Donovan delaney (talk) 17:07, 21 May 2015 (UTC) yes I don't understand what you mean. Oh and you can't block me. I have rights! Donovan delaney (talk) 17:07, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Making legal threats
You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for making legal threats or taking legal action. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text below this notice:. You are not allowed to edit Wikipedia while the threats stand or the legal action is unresolved. Jayron <b style="color:#090">32</b> 17:07, 21 May 2015 (UTC)


 * What just happened? What did they do? — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 18:18, 21 May 2015 (UTC)


 * He made legal threat at his sandbox, and got blocked. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:53, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

If my page:Donovan delaney/sandbox/the Corpse Bride Video Game, had not been deleted in the first place then none of this would have happened and I wouldn't have been blocked. It's Wikipedia's fault that I got blocked. Donovan delaney (talk) 21:23, 21 May 2015 (UTC)


 * You can't host that kind of material here, because that is not what Wikipedia is for. You may refuse to understand that but it's still true. We have rules here.
 * And one of those rules is "No legal threats" -- anyone who makes a legal threat is not allowed to edit Wikipedia (i.e. they are blocked) until the matter has been resolved. I don't know what exactly you said because I can't see deleted pages, but if you want to be unblocked then you will have to take back the threat. I assume that you didn't really mean it, whatever you said.
 * And you should probably also confirm that you understand WP:NOTWEBHOST: "...Wikipedians have their own user pages, but they should be used primarily to present information relevant to working on the encyclopedia. ... user pages should not function as personal webpages or be repositories for large amounts of material that is irrelevant to collaborating on Wikipedia.
 * If you can't or refuse to abide by Wikipedia's policies then you will not be allowed to edit here, it's that simple. It is completely understandable that as a new user you were not aware of these rules. But now you are. — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 10:13, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

It's still Wikipedia's fault that my page got deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donovan delaney (talk • contribs)


 * Yes, fine, it's totally Wikipedia's "fault". Do you understand the rules or not? Do you even want to get unblocked? — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 16:10, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes I want unblocked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donovan delaney (talk • contribs)


 * If you want to be unblocked, you need to do two things 1) Retract the legal threat you made, unambiguously. And 2) Agree to stop creating inappropriate pages at Wikipedia, and instead assure us that you intend to help out and make the encyclopedia better.  -- Jayron <b style="color:#090">32</b> 16:19, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

I don't know how to do that. How do I do that?? Oh and my page was not inappropriate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donovan delaney (talk • contribs)


 * 1) Tell us, in clear terms, you don't intend to call the police as you threatened to do. 2) Yes it was, and as long as you continue to think that it was not, we don't need you here anymore.  Please review some of the basic principles of Wikipedia by reading through Five pillars, and reconsider why Wikipedia needs your help.  -- Jayron <b style="color:#090">32</b> 16:39, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

That's not an answer to my question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donovan delaney (talk • contribs)


 * This discussion is not going anywhere and we're not required to have an endless debate with a disruptive user who refuses to get the point. If you can't understand what we're asking of you then you're welcome to remain blocked and maybe come back in a few years.
 * But here's the summary for you again, it consists of two separate points:
 * 1) You made a legal threat (in a page that is now deleted) and we have a strict policy about legal threats, and this is why you got blocked. According to that policy, to become unblocked, you need to say clearly (right here on the talk page) that you take back the threat, you take back what you said and say that you didn't mean it, that you didn't report anyone to any authorities and that you're not planning to do it. (If you actually are then you have to remain blocked, it's for the best.)
 * 2) You have to confirm that you understand that Wikipedia is not deviantart: you can not host random content here, not even on your own userpages.
 * — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 19:01, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

I do understand the rules. Saying that I have rights was not a threat. Ok. I understand. But I want 2 see we're sorry for the deletion and the blocking. Oh and Sorry, and if you could block the mean person that did the deletion, from my page. Oh Unblock me, sorry, for what me did, I am, ― Yoda.Donovan delaney (talk) 03:49, 26 May 2015 (UTC)Donovan delaney (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donovan delaney (talk • contribs)


 * Sorry but we're not sorry for deleting those specific pages nor for blocking you in accordance with the "No legal threats" policy. I'm going to ask an admin to look at what you really said here since you seem to have forgotten. — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 15:44, 26 May 2015 (UTC)


 * We're saying you made a legal threat because you said "You can't block me. If you block me I'm call the police." in your sandbox page. That's the threat that you had to take back. — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 18:32, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

I already did that. I did take it back. Duh. Lol([[User talk:Donovan delaney#top|talk) 04:18, 27 May 2015 (UTC)Donovan delaney (talk) 04:19, 27 May 2015 (UTC)


 * No, you didn't. At least not clearly. We would have noticed that. — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 09:23, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Fine I'm sorry I take it back. Donovan delaney (talk) 18:39, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Will you agree to make no more legal threats, to not re-create the content that was deleted, and make an effort to ensure that future contributions are consistent with Wikipedias policies? If you agree to this, I will be glad to unblock you. Chris  lk02  Chris Kreider 18:44, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Ok.yes. Donovan delaney (talk) 02:17, 30 May 2015 (UTC) Will you unblock me know. I mean. Really soon. I've thought of something great to wright.Donovan delaney (talk) 17:32, 11 June 2015 (UTC)Donovan delaney (talk) 21:53, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Given that you've retracted the legal threat, I've unblocked you. Sam Walton (talk) 09:41, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

May 2015
Please do not create pages that attack, threaten, or disparage their subject. Attack pages and files are not tolerated by Wikipedia and are speedily deleted. Users who create or add such material may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Thank you. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:11, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. When you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion (but never when editing articles), please be sure to sign your posts. There are two ways to do this. Either: This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is necessary to allow other editors to easily see who wrote what and when.
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Thank you. <b style= "color:red">T</b><b style= "color:#FF4200">L</b><b style= "color:#FF7400">2</b><b style= "color:#FFA700">2</b> (<i style= "color:green">talk</i>) 02:17, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Please do not delete or edit legitimate talk page comments. Such edits are disruptive and appear to be vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. You may not refactor others legitimate comments in your own talk page, though you may remove them unless not allowed per WP:BLANKING. <b style= "color:red">T</b><b style= "color:#FF4200">L</b><b style= "color:#FF7400">2</b><b style= "color:#FFA700">2</b> (<i style= "color:green">talk</i>) 17:10, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Notice
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is User talk:Donovan delaney. Thank you. Don't be offended of this notice, it is just to notify other users that you agreed to retract your legal threat and you can now be unblocked. <b style= "color:red">T</b><b style= "color:#FF4200">L</b><b style= "color:#FF7400">2</b><b style= "color:#FFA700">2</b> (<i style= "color:green">talk</i>) 00:19, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

A summary of some important site policies and guidelines

 * "Truth" is not the only criteria for inclusion, verifiability is also required.
 * Always cite a source for any new information. When adding this information to articles, use, containing the name of the source, the author, page number, publisher or web address (if applicable).
 * We do not publish original thought nor original research.
 * A subject is considered notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject.
 * Reliable sources typically include: articles from magazines or newspapers (particularly scholarly journals), or books by recognized authors (basically, books by respected publishers). Online versions of these are usually accepted, provided they're held to the same standards.  User generated sources (like Wikipedia) are to be avoided.  Self-published sources should be avoided except for information by and about the subject that is not self-serving (for example, citing a company's website to establish something like year of establishment).

I see that you keep creating articles such as "corpse bride emily" with almost no content -- stop doing that. If you want to create an article, make sure you have at least two sources that are independent of the subject, are high-quality sources like books by college professors or professional newspapers, and are specifically about the article subject. Make sure that the article material doesn't belong in an article that already exists. Make sure that you have actually written the article before creating it (no "to be continued"). Also, do not sign your contributions to article space. Yes, you sign your contributions to talk pages, but not to article space.

Ian.thomson (talk) 18:31, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Emily corpse
Hello Donovan delaney,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Emily corpse for deletion, because it seems to be a test. Did you know that the Wikipedia Sandbox is available for testing out edits?

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Nicky mathew (talk) 00:51, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Donovan, you need to draft the article before sending it out into articlespace. Go to User:Donovan delaney/sandbox and finish working on an article there before putting it into article space. Ian.thomson (talk) 00:58, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Looks like you're back to creating inappropriate pages. You need to be careful if you don't want to get blocked again. Wikipedia articles need to be on notable topics and need to include reliable sources as references, and need to be written in a neutral tone. Also you're not supposed to add your signature in articles. — Jeraphine Gryphon (talk) 08:15, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Deleted page
I've deleted the talk page, but ultimately I thought I'd explain some of the reasons why the page was deleted. One was that at its time of deletion the only content was a source that referenced you. I do see where you'd had a paragraph of content earlier, but for some reason you blanked this. That's the main reason it was tagged as a test page and was deleted.

That said, I'm not opposed to a character page for Emily the Corpse Bride as long as you can show how this character has been the subject of coverage that focuses on her specifically in the same manner that there's coverage for Katniss Everdeen or Hermoine Granger. You cannot use things like movie reviews or WP:PRIMARY sources to show notability since they really only mention her in relation to the film itself. What you need are news articles, academic journals, and book mentions that are independent of the film that go into depth about her character. Since Burton is a popular director it's possible that these could exist.

I do, however, have to caution you about making this page in the mainspace. In May you were blocked because you made legal threats concerning the deletion of a sandbox article you created about a fake game based on Corpse Bride. You did retract the legal threats and you are unblocked, but right now I'd recommend that you just be a little extra cautious about making pages. Instead of making pages in the mainspace, make one in your userspace at User:Donovan delaney/Emily the Corpse Bride and when you're finished, ask someone if it's ready for the mainspace. Part of the condition for your unblocking was that you not create inappropriate pages and while your intent might be to create a fully informational page on the character, creating one in the mainspace before the page is actually ready for the mainspace can be seen as inappropriate. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  08:48, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I do have to warn you - if you continue to create the pages then it's possible that this could be seen as a violation of your conditions for unblocking and you might run the risk of being re-blocked. I would recommend that you create the article in the userspace and if possible, maybe even craft it at WP:AfC or get someone from the animation WikiProject to help you write it. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  08:51, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Here's an example of a decent source that you can use as a start for an article about the character, although you'll need many more similarly themed articles to justify an independent article. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  08:52, 24 June 2015 (UTC)