User talk:Donscalos

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Paul Roche
Please don't overwrite one article with another. To create a different article about a person with the same name it becomes necessary to change the title in some way. You could use Donald Robert Paul Roche or if he was more commonly known as Paul Roche then you could use Paul Roche (poet). Thanks. Enter CambridgeBayWeather, waits for audience applause, not a sausage 22:27, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

June 2009
Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit you made to the page Paul Roche has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, please ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thank you. J.delanoy gabs adds 22:30, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to the page Paul Roche. Such edits constitute vandalism and are reverted. Please do not continue to make unconstructive edits to pages; use the sandbox for testing. Thank you. Catgut (talk) 22:53, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Please do not vandalize pages, as you did with this edit to Paul Roche. If you continue to do so, you will be blocked from editing. J.delanoy gabs adds 22:56, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Paul Roche
You must stop overwriting the Irish sportsman article. Also most of the Paul Roche (poet) article was copied from http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1568663/Paul-Roche.html and as such violates copyright. I have removed the material, please do not replace it. Thanks. Enter CambridgeBayWeather, waits for audience applause, not a sausage 22:58, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Enter CambridgeBayWeather, waits for audience applause, not a sausage 23:04, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Paul Roche
If you want to create an article about a poete named Paul Roche, then do so. But please do not eliminate the existing article about the player with the same name. Thanks. Catgut (talk) 23:05, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Create an artice
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Copyright problem: Paul Roche (poet)
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''Wikipeida can not accept copyright material unlesas it has been released into the public domain ( WP:GFDL). Please read Donating copyrighted materials.''Triwbe (talk) 14:07, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Hello Donscalos. I saw your note on copyright at the bottom of the Paul Roche (poet) page, however Wikipedia has very strict policies about copyright violation.  I began writing you a note, but much of what I was going to say is in the paragraphs above.  I suspect that your introduction to Wikipedia has turned into a frustrating experience and it would be a great shame if you became disheartened.  Wikipedia has a guideline for editors: 'Be bold', which you certainly were and creating or expanding articles is one of the best ways that one can contribute.  I do believe that your editing experience will be much less disappointing or frustrating if you familiarise yourself with some of the guidelines and policies that make Wikipedia 'run smoothly' (some irony intended ;)).  I know from personal experience that these can be daunting, at first.
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 * Good luck with your editing. TheSmuel (talk) 14:44, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Dealing with the articles
First the copyright. First don't add back the Telegraph material until permission is obtained, or this is what will happen and the page may be deleted. Better to have a short article than none at all. Now, you have permission from the original author and that's great but the Telegraph page has a copyright notice at the bottom so there needs to be permission from the writer. Look at Requesting copyright permission and Donating copyrighted materials. There are instructions on those pages as to how to provide permissions. It might be a good idea to have the original author to read Donating copyrighted materials and they will also need to show that they did indeed write the Telegraph article. If you need assistance then pleas let me know.

As to which article should be at the title Paul Roche, that should be fairly simple. Until yesterday I had not heard of either man but I suspect that you are correct and the poet is better known than the hurler, but I can't be sure. The one thing not to do is paste the material over the top as that causes attribution problems. If you look at Requested moves, especially the Requested moves section there are instructions on what to do. Basically you should go to Talk:Paul Roche and at the bottom of the page add the following (you can copy and paste it from here); Paul Roche (hurler). Replace the words "Reason for move." with an explanation as to why the article needs changing. State that you want Paul Roche (poet) to move there and why it is better that he as opposed to the hurler should occupy the main title. Again if you need any help let me know. Enter CambridgeBayWeather, waits for audience applause, not a sausage 14:58, 21 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Sounds good and I glad we were able to get it sorted. Hope you enjoy editing here. Enter CambridgeBayWeather, waits for audience applause, not a sausage 18:57, 21 June 2009 (UTC)