User talk:Dont-hide-the-facts

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March 2015
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles, as you did at Detour Gold, you may be blocked from editing.  Acroterion   (talk)   01:34, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I have removed the minor incidents, since they add undue weight to an encyclopedia article on a mining firm, but have left the more significant item. I have however, scaled back the more shrill denunciations, since permit condition violations are not criminal matters. Please remember that this is an encyclopedia, not a platform for activism or denunciation of organizations you don't like.  Acroterion   (talk)   01:41, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

How does one define 'undue weight'; amount of text, or characters, or subtitles proportional to other text? The charges are a matter of public record; however, please recognize I wanted them posted here because Ontario's provincial government has now removed the webpage that displayed a consolidated list of companies and individuals who were found/pled guilty to charges for environmental offences against provincial law. If a factual listing of violations is not permitted here, I am being held accountable for my text on Wikipedia more so than Detour Gold is for their actions. Bravo.


 * See WP:UNDUE for a general discussion. It's often the case that negative material is what gets printed, so there's a often bias in that direction based on sources. However, in general, encyclopedia articles on a company should focus on general information about the company. Negative material can certainly be (and ought to be where it's prominently reported) included: see, for instance, BP who have lots to work with, but the article should focus primarily on a neutral, factual overview without becoming a hit list. It seemed to me that the big fine was significant., but an $8500 fine hardly warrants mention in a global encyclopedia. Again, please remember that this is an encyclopedia, not a place for exposés or activism.
 * I've removed your generic link to the province's page, which isn't appropriate and isn't adequate as a placeholder for negative information. I would think this has been reported in newspapers, so I suggest that you look for a published citation. Otherwise, it may need to be removed as unsupported in published sources. However, since it's apparent that this did happen and it seems significant, I haven't yet removed the passage for lack of sourcing. I see this, for instance, which appears to be related. Is there a report in the Toronto Star that would help to assert notice by national media?   Acroterion   (talk)   02:22, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Uh-oh. In looking for sourcing I see that you directly copied a newspaper article in . You're welcome to use the information, but you must rewrite it rather than cut-and-paste. It looks like a good source. They do use the work "illegal" so was it a criminal case? I've removed the copyright violation: that doesn't prejudice appropriate replacement with a rewritten and sourced version that avoids the copying issue. I am happy to help if you have questions, but I have to sign off for now and will revisit when I have a little time.  Acroterion   (talk)   02:56, 30 March 2015 (UTC)