User talk:Doratheghost

It doesn't matter about the color of her parents hair! It's a cartoon!! People don't have violet eyes either! Genetics don't apply the claims that her hair is dyed is unsubstantiated within the cartoon. If you want to continue the argument, her grandmother is shown to have had black hair in her youth. Maybe her mother or her father dies their hair. Irregardless the claim that her hair is dyed is not supported within cannon.

Or maybe her mother dyed her hair was she was young. Adults don't dye their hair that much. Each person has two genes for things. Maybe her grandmother had a black hair gene and other hair color gene, and passed the other hair color gene down.

That thing with the eyes, maybe it's the color eye lends that some like to wear. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.203.31.11 (talk) 00:19, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I REPEAT!!!! THIS IS A CARTOON!!! Adults DO dye their hair a great deal, up until the 80's or so, dying your hair was something you did to hide the gray...not for fun, (blue haired old ladies anyone?). And women of Sam's grandmother's generation did not. Do not apply reality to cartoons. There are no such things as half ghost boys. The science in the cartoon is completely fictional. Sam's hair is BLACK, to say that it has been dyed is pure conjecture. Other cartoon characters have odd colored hair. it's JUST A CARTOON!! To say that her hair is dyed reflects personal opinion.

The creator of Danny Phantom, Butch Hartman also made the Fairly Odd Parents. Look at Vicky and Toody. Toody had black, and one of her parents have black. Also, have you forgotten that Sam is a Goth. Where does it say that her hair isn't dyed? All the characters in Danny Phantom with black hair have a black hair parent, except Sam who happens to be a Goth, what does that tell you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.217.126.187 (talk) 00:36, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

This tells me You are grasping at crazy straws in order to support what is merely opinion in your case, even to the point that you will ignore valid supporting evidence in my case. CITATIONS ARE NECESSARRY! If you want to say well her hair is dyed and she wears contacts, then why can't we just say she's adopted? Such an opinion is just as out of line as arguing that her hair is dyed. Personal opinion in the matter of character look Sam has black hair, whether or not it's dyed in your opinion is irrelevant. And just because you took tenth grade biology does not mean you understand genetics. It doesn't matter how other characters were developed in the Butch Hartman realm you cannot apply genetics to a character. Look at Maddie for instance. She has violet eyes. All people of African-American decent have green eyes. You cannot put rhyme or reason to how Butch decided to make a character appear. He had reasons for giving her black hair, he never said it was dyed therefore pointing out her hair is dyed is silly. Her hair always appears black, therefore it is black, asserting that it has been died is unnecessary and smacks as character bias. There are PLENTY of people who call themselves "goth" who do not dye their hair. It is not a requirement for entry into the "club".

This section and all following it regarding Sam is not only VERY POORLY WRITTEN, but extremely biased probably written by some little Danny fan girl who THINKS he is real and wants to keep him for herself, unfortunately there are many such nut-jobs around. Also there is NO such thing as short long hair. It is either short or it is long. Her hair is short, if you want to get technical it is medium length. I will continue to TRY my best to improve this entry for accuracy and grammar even though my efforts are stymied at every turn. I have already taken the matter to an editor of the Wikipedia for dispute resolution. And maintain the wardrobe and romance section is redundant and unnecessary.

As for the erroneous statement that a red headed parent and a blond haired parent cannot give have a dark haired child...Just because Sam’s parents are both fair and have fair hair doesn’t prove anything. Pamela has red hair. Red hair occurs when the parents are carriers for the MC1R recessive gene, but both have other dominant genes. The MC1R gene can skip generations and it is likely that Pamela’s parents both have black or brunette hair and this gene would be encoded in her DNA and even if she married a blond man, black and brunette hair are dominant genes and would be more likely to show up in Pamela’s children than red or blond hair. Therefore, it is NOT impossible for Sam to have black hair.

I'm not even going to read all that. It's not that her hair really is black or not, it's the fact you don't even consider that I could be right.

That part I read, you said something about black hair ppl having a blond and red hair child. FYI, that is possible for two black hair ppl to have a red or yellow hair person, because they might have secessive genes, but it's impossible for that to be the other way around. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.217.126.187 (talk) 01:49, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

And Sam has meduim hair. This is short hair,

http://images.askmen.com/galleries/actress/jamie-lee-curtis/pictures/jamie-lee-curtis-picture-1.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.217.126.187 (talk) 01:53, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

First of all, if you can't read my whole argument than you have absolutely no business answering my argument let alone making one. I have heard your argument out, but your argument has no merit and is completely and totally unsubstantiated. Your argument is a nothing more than a matter of opinion.

First of all you have to take into account that this is a cartoon. Cartoon character appearances are built on character cues. They look a specific way in order to give you a clue to their characters. Their family looks mean nothing in the face of the fact that they are ink from the imagination of a man. They are not made of genetic material therefore have no DNA, no genes. Again to state that Sam's hair may be dyed that it is "is up for debate among fans" is still an unnecessary statement and does not belong in the character description. It is still your biased opinion. We have only ever seen Sam with black hair. She has black hair. It is not wrong to say, she simply has black hair. You are letting your personal feelings and biases corrupt the Wikipedia entry and that's wrong. It is a fact. Sam has black hair. End of argument.

Also, it is spelled MEDIUM, not MIDIUM. You would need to add the word length, otherwise one would have to infer that you meant she has medium black hair (as in the color). Again I will repeat slowly and use small words. We have only ever seen Sam with black hair, therefore her hair is black. Should you have another color to identify her with saying it's dyed one color or another would be acceptable, but seeing how we have only seen her with black hair...it is not.

Also, then I must dye my hair as well because as you state it my RECESSIVE genes are make it impossible for me to have the hair color I do. Guess you must be an expert at genetics as well as you obviously are an expert speller with great grammar skills.

If after all that you still feel you are in the right, then I will alert you to Wikipedia police about original thought. "Wikipedia does not publish original research or original thought. This includes unpublished facts, arguments, speculation, and ideas; and any unpublished analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to advance a position. This means that Wikipedia is not the place to publish your own opinions, experiences, or arguments."

Once I am ready I will be editing the page to rid it of such violations and to clean up the badly written sections.

To my friend who has been disagreeing with me. I hope my wording for Sam's hair is concession enough for you. I worked VERY hard to make the entry more readable, factual and less biased. Remember, this is an encyclopedia and not a fansite. Only reliably referenced and verifiable real-world notable information about the series belongs here.Doratheghost (talk) 23:20, 26 June 2008 (UTC)