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October 2021
 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing certain pages (Kate Miller) for repeatedly editing the article about you despite your conflict of interest. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Cabayi (talk) 11:31, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

I AM KATE MILLER
Does the public know that Wiki will actually block you from editing your OWN PAGE? They are fine with random strangers from the public going on and literally changing your name and putting false information in your article, but they will block you in definitely from correcting it. I smell a lawsuit. Dorierosie (talk) 15:50, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * It is not "your own page", but a Wikipedia article about you. There is a difference. See WP:OWN. 331dot (talk) 18:18, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

UNBLOCK please?
I am the actress voiceover artist and writer Kate Miller whom this page was created about. People have literally gone on and put in my incorrect middle name my incorrect age wrong images and false information. They have also edited out correct information about my credits and accomplishments in my career. I go on once a year to edit and make sure everything is correct. Someone recently blocked me saying I have a conflict of interest? I have no conflict of interest with myself. I have a conflict of interest with Internet trolls who go on and lie about who I am. Dorierosie (talk) 16:19, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * If you are in the entertainment industry, you should certainly realize that people are notoriously unreliable sources about themselves, from falsifying ages to fancying up biographies (Theda Bara being a notorious historical example). We do not consider the subject of an article to be a reliable source for information about themself. (And of course you have a massive, overwhelming conflict of interest with yourself, as you want the article to make you look good, and we want it to have accurate published properly-sourced information from impartial third-party sources.) -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  17:28, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

You know what you’re right! I’m just gonna have my publicist and my entertainment lawyer edit my page from now on or my manager or my agent. Thanks it makes so much more sense now why everybody’s so upset about me going on and making sure my information is correct. I’ll tell my husband John DiMaggio he shouldn’t correct anything either since he’ll have a conflict of interest being married to me. Thank you for enlightening me I realize now how in the wrong I have been Dorierosie (talk) 17:32, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Your publicist and entertainment lawyer would also have a conflict of interest around you. Lavalizard101 (talk) 18:00, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Per the suggestions at Plain and simple conflict of interest guide, neither you nor anyone connected to you should edit the article directly. However, suggesting reliably-sourced changes on the talk page is perfectly acceptable. Corrections are always welcome so long as they're verifiable. clpo13(talk) 18:03, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

ARoseWolf I am not even able to respond to your messages FYI I guess I can thank you here and hope you see it Dorierosie (talk) 20:55, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

PLEASE SEE EACH SECTION FOR RESPONSE Dorierosie (talk) 15:28, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

ANI notice
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. WP:ANI. Cabayi (talk) 16:58, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

I asked him to send a link about which language I used that somehow violated your policies. He did not.

Re: [Ticket#2021102510012533] HELP WRONG NAME WRONG PHOTO

I can’t find it anymore on my user top page if you find me a link to it and send it I will do so

Kate Miller https://www.katemillernyla.com

I see, IMDb is user generated content and is not reliable just the same way that Wikipedia operates? The irony! Actually, if you go to the title page of a production on IMDb, you can’t be listed in the cast unless THEY approve it. It’s not all user generated - it’s approved by production. It’s a bit more regulated than Wikipedia. As an example, if it’s listed on the actors page it’s not always true, BUT if it’s listed on the title page of the film or TV program - it is reliable. They simply won’t approve it or allow it if you’re not in the cast or crew. If they didn’t have those restrictions, anyone in the world could go on an add themselves…

Again, if you would send me a link to the talk page (it’s very busy your website and very hard to navigate), I’m happy to remove what I wrote in my frustration this morning.

If you would like to fact check anything else about me, here is my Google search. The reason I would like Wikipedia to be correct is because it is the very first thing that comes up. How would you feel if you invested 30 years in a career and you go on the Internet and you see that STRANGERS are omitting your accomplishments and changing your name? Put yourself in our shoes…

Thanks.

Kate Miller https://www.katemillernyla.com Dorierosie (talk) 17:34, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

blob:null/bc58af8b-764a-439a-b3e2-fa2b17848a98 Dorierosie (talk) 17:35, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Emails
You have now been asked multiple times not to post your emails with our VRT volunteers. You are welcome to summarise them, but please stop posting them verbatim, or even naming the individual(s) you were in contact with unless you give their username. Primefac (talk) 17:43, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Hello
Hello @Dorierosie or if you prefer I can call you Kate. I know it must be frustrating to come here and see false or incorrect information written about you here. I do so apologize that you have experienced that. I understand your feelings about you not being able to edit the article here written about you. I also understand the difficulties with navigating the encyclopedia and understanding the complexities of the policies here. I am fairly new but I have been fortunate enough to have made friends with experienced Wikipedian's that, themselves, have issues navigating and understanding Wikipedia even after all these years. I believe the nature of editing here sometimes causes us to lose sight of the human side of the equation but I really do not believe anyone here is malicious or intentionally trying to harm you, beyond the trolls and vandals as you point out. Most everyone commenting here really cares about the encyclopedia and the subjects within it. That includes you. I think the best approach is going to the talk page for the article on you and explaining any changes you wish to include there. The hardest thing you will have to do is make sure whatever you want included is found in what Wikipedia refers to as reliable sources even when it's something simple that you know is true about yourself. That is hard to do and maintain neutrality in the tone of your additions but it can be done. Keep in mind that no person, including the subject of any article, actually owns the article itself. This is about what other reliable sources say about you. That most definitely should never include too much in the way of private information and the article on you should never be vandalized so please continue to notify someone if that happens and it isn't caught immediately. You can do that on the article talk page as well. I just wanted to take a moment to share these things with you human to human. Disregard any part you are already familiar with and please let me know if there is anything I can help you with. -- A Rose Wolf  20:00, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

October 2021
 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for making legal threats or taking legal action. You are not allowed to edit Wikipedia while the threats stand or the legal action is unresolved. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 20:23, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Come'on, this is a bit excessive. We are dealing with human beings and she never actually said she was suing anyone based on what I have seen here. It was a misunderstanding and the whole thing could be cleared up with a little understanding and down to earth explanations from the view point of being a non-Wikipedian, not punitive actions. -- A Rose Wolf  20:38, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Help anyone?
ARoseWolf Thank you for your help and I love your name! I hope you see this as every time I tap on your message I am unable to respond Dorierosie (talk) 20:55, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

ARoseWolf Again I am thanking you wherever I am able to reply! Hoping you will see it Dorierosie (talk) 20:56, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I do see it and I appreciate your response. The name I chose has deeply profound connection to me as a person and my Native heritage. In regards to my actions here, I just do what I feel is right. Sometimes I get corrected and I understand it's not a perfect world and I'm not perfect either. I make mistakes and get thing wrong sometimes. But other times I get it right and I stand by my actions when I do and I apologize for my actions when I get it wrong. I do want to say that you should listen to the advice given below and try to understand from the perspective of each individual editor here. We are not employees but volunteers, even our admins, and they do a phenomenal job but they are human too. When they offer advice they are trying to help your experience here. -- A Rose Wolf  14:29, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

SOME KIND PERSON COULD BE FAIR AND EDIT?
THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD READ EVEN THOUGH IM BLOCKED

Kate Miller (born October 24, 1969 in Cincinnati, Ohio) is an American actress and voice artist.[1] Her credits include Broadway, Off-Broadway, television, film, animation, video games, and books on tape.

Kate Miller is a SAG Award winning ensemble cast member in Arron Sorkin’s “The Trial of the Chicago 7”. She is well known as the voice of Debbie DuPree in the cartoon parody Sealab 2021, one of the first adult animated programs on Adult Swim for Cartoon Network. She is also the voice of Grace Ryan in the Adult Swim show Frisky Dingo. Kate Miller has guest starred in multiple episodes on the CBS series Blue Bloods and “Law & Order: Criminal Intent”. Other shows she has guest starred and co-starred on, include Sex and the City, All My Children, One Life to Live, Ugly Betty, Elementary and Ramy.[2]

She also appeared on Law & Order as the recurring character Defense Attorney Madeline Myers. Other shows she's had recurring appearances on include The Young and the Restless as Carla Vente, One Life to Live as Nadine Lovett, Third Watch as M.E. Martocci, Hightown as DA Amanda Shaw and the Guiding Light.

Kate Miller has also appeared on Broadway in Moon Over Buffalo with Carol Burnett and Amadeus with Michael Sheen. Her movies include The Trial of the Chicago 7, Entropy, Halfway to Zen, The Emoji Movie and Chump Change, as well as the documentaries I Know That Voice and Moon Over Broadway.

In addition to voicing many characters for animation, Kate Miller has also done voice acting for a number of video games, such as Guild Wars 2, Manhunt, Red Faction Guerilla, Final Fantasy and World of Warcraft.[3][4] She will appear in “God of War: Ragnarok” as Urd the First Norn & as multiple characters in “Gotham Nights.”

Kate Miller resides in New York, Los Angeles and Palm Springs. Dorierosie (talk) 20:35, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I will post these options to the article talk page as I assume you can't post there with the block in place. I'm sorry the decision was made to indefinitely block you. I may not agree with the action but I respect the admins and community trying to protect the encyclopedia. I would encourage you to seek an appeal if you so choose. The link to the guide for how to do that was provided in the block notice. -- A Rose Wolf  20:43, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Dorierosie, while blocked, you can only use this page to request to be unblocked; please follow the instructions above., you can certainly research and make edits of your own accord, but please review WP:BLOCKEVASION, which states "Editors in turn are not permitted to post or edit material at the direction of a blocked editor (sometimes called proxy editing or "proxying") unless they can show that the changes are either verifiable or productive and they have independent reasons for making such edits." Maybe you have done that, I'm just notifiying you only. 331dot (talk) 20:59, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * , I appreciate your concern and notification. I want to assure you that I do not make edits to anything on Wikipedia that is not sourced or verified. I had no intention of making edits to the article on Kate without community consensus. I do feel that the decent and humanly thing to do is show some compassion and empathy towards a frustrated human being and I hate to think that an article on this encyclopedia that I care so deeply for would cause injury to another human being because of false information. On one hand we celebrate that Google and Twitter think so highly of our policies and yet we deny the cries of an individual and take punitive action against them when they fail to follow our policies to the inth degree. If there is false information then it is probably not sourced and that should be easily found out and removed. This is a BLP, not a historical article. Kate is a living human being and she is crying out for someone to listen. She doesn't need our condescending remarks, our wiki-lawyering and punitive actions. Of course I can do this on my own accord but I am part of this community and I am also trying to show Kate that we have policies for a reason. There has already been edit warring on the article so the best step forward is community consensus gathered on the talk page. I was trying to show this to her when she was blocked for making a legal threat that never happened, not for her behavior. Now we are talking about replacing the block for making a legal threat that never happened with one for her behavior when we caused the behavior based on our punitive actions directed at a frustrated non-Wikipedian subject of one of our articles. At some point we should open our eyes and hearts and see that a one size fits all approach never works to the benefit everyone. Empathy folks, just a little goes a long way. That rant was not directed at you dot or anyone in particular here, just in general. -- A Rose Wolf  15:09, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I've just removed all instances of the above text in other sections of this talk page as it is not needed to be placed multiple times. Lavalizard101 (talk) 22:43, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Why? What is that in violation of? Do you get paid to do this? Do you work for Wikipedia?


 * I have removed it yeyt again, it is classed as Spam and could see your access to edit this page revoked as well. And no I do not get paid or work for wikipedia, I am just an avearge volunteer editor who saw a discussion involving you on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents and saw that you had posted the same post on your talk page multiple times and thought to remove them, it also makes it clearer for admins to read your talk page should you post an unblock request, posting it multiple times may also come across as WP:NOTHERE behaviour to some. Lavalizard101 (talk) 23:39, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Article talk page
Hello, I have noticed that Talk:Kate Miller was never used, but it would be the place to make suggestions for article improvements, if you are eventually unblocked. The standard notice in relation to conflict of interest has already been posted here in 2020 so I will not reissue it, but I highly recommend reading it. Also, noone can WP:OWN an article, including the people they are about. If noone helps at Talk:Kate Miller when requests are made, it's also possible to issue a notice at WP:BLPN, the biographies noticeboard. As for the current reason for your block, please see WP:NLT and WP:APPEAL: it's important to retract any claim and make clear that you do not intend to take any legal action against other users or the foundation. A block would otherwise persist, by policy, until any pending action or threat is over. I hope this helps, — Paleo Neonate  – 21:36, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

There was never a threat. He interpreted it that way. But false information about a celebrity or public figure is tricky - regardless of the platform. Thank the heavens everyone knows that Wikipedia is not a dependable source for correct information. Dorierosie (talk) 22:55, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * We are aware that Wikipedia is not a reliable source. It's up to readers to verify information. If you are not going to request unblock per the instructions given, there is nothing more to do here. 331dot (talk) 23:51, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

I was blocked because someone misunderstood me threatening a lawsuit

 * If this is your unblock request, I can add the proper formatting for you. 331dot (talk) 23:55, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

YES PLEASE. BENDER WOULD APPRECIATE Dorierosie (talk) 00:00, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I have done so. Someone else will review your request. Be advised that asking your publicist to edit for you would be a form of block evasion and they would end up blocked as a sockpuppet. 331dot (talk) 00:04, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

I said nothing about my publicist editing for me I said something about my publicist contacting Google to get this Wikipedia page off my feed when people google me like casting directors and producers for potential work and finding wrong information Dorierosie (talk) 00:09, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry I didn't see this earlier, that's my fault. I trust the discretion of whoever is reviewing this, it's pretty clear to me at least that there's no longer any chance of legal action. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 18:10, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

There is a reply by the blocker up above! Could someone please remedy this already? Dorierosie (talk) 15:25, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

I see no instructions given to request and unblock
I see no instructions given to request an unblock? You have about 50 million pages with 20 million little blue links in weird brackets on this thing. Not everybody has time to hang out on the Internet all day and figure out a platform that is a cesspool. I love how you can keep emailing me about requesting an unblock but no one is being helpful whatsoever. Can’t wait to see what the next wrong edit on my page is going to be! In the past 10 years I’ve survived the wrong Birthday the wrong age the wrong name the wrong husband and the wrong credits in my career.

This is my official removal that there will be no lawsuit. Anyone that knows if there’s going to be a lawsuit you don’t give somebody a heads up!

This is also another official removal to be unblocked.

and I’m out! Just like poker you’ve got to know when to hold them and when to fold them. Good luck with your lizards and everything else that has nothing to do with fair practices or professional administration! Dorierosie (talk) 23:58, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

I MADE NO THREAT
Please review the entire day I have spent on this website and everything I have written? This is literally ridiculous at this point. I’m a 52-year-old woman and a working actress - I don’t have time for this. Someone published the wrong name the wrong husband the wrong age and the wrong information about KATE MILLER ACTRESS JOHN DIMAGGIO’S WIFE. When someone is a public figure or celebrity and misinformation is made public there are usually consequences. How is that a legal threat? And because I edited information to correct it and to make sure my name is right when casting directors and producers and people in the show business industry look me up and see wrong information that has not been sourced or cited - I get blocked? It’s terribly unfair harmful and quite shocking. Dorierosie (talk) 00:17, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi Dorierosie. I've looked through your recent contributions and I do somewhat agree that the "legal threat" angle is probably a bit thin. That being said, you have been rather disruptive here, posting thousands of bytes of unnecessary text, to the point where I'm honestly surprised that you haven't had your talk page access revoked yet. I understand that Wikipedia can be frustrating, especially when you're the subject of an article and cannot seem to get it changed, but yelling and repeatedly posting the same information over and over is a waste of everyone's time.
 * In a show of good faith I'm willing to entertain an unblock requests, with the following caveats:
 * You will still be blocked from directly editing Kate Miller. Any and all requests for change should be made at Talk:Kate Miller using Request edit.
 * Please stop yelling at the volunteers (i.e. the ALLCAPS). Some of us have been editing for a long time, and when someone starts yelling we start ignoring them because it's not worth our time.
 * Keep your comments short and succinct. Similar to point 2, when there's a gigantic block of text it makes it less likely someone is going to read it. Obviously if something needs explanation that's fine, but try to avoid any "ranting"/rambling paragraphs, but when you start implying that we're lizard people or type out other rant-worthy content it gets ignored.
 * If these seem like reasonable things to hold to, an unblock becomes much more likely. Please let me know at your earliest convenience. Primefac (talk) 08:28, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I think the lizard comment was about my username. Lavalizard101 (talk) 10:19, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Hah! Didn't even notice that. Thanks. Primefac (talk) 10:40, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your time Primefac, — Paleo Neonate  – 12:43, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Do you want your article deleted?
There is a discussion on whether you want it deleted or not. If it was locked so IP address couldn't vandalize it, and no one mentioned your age, would you want it to remain? Other woman have complained that if their age is mentioned some discriminate against them. Articles_for_deletion/Kate_Miller  D r e a m Focus  17:20, 28 October 2021 (UTC)


 * No I do not want my article deleted. I want my article correct. I am a successful 52 year old actress. I have no need to upsell myself I just want people to know my correct age my correct name and my correct credits. Thank you for writing and for caring… Everything you need to know about me in my career you can find it elsewhere on the Internet especially IMDb or my website www.katemillernyla.com — I did a query and over 5000 people have looked at my Wikipedia page in the last 30 days. That is alarming when you are a public figure and information is incorrect and incomplete.  Dorierosie (talk) 17:23, 28 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Have you ever been interviewed or had your work reviewed or won any awards? This adds to your notability so the article is kept.   D r e a m Focus  17:35, 28 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Many many times like I said before look on the freaking Internet there are already citations on my page that someone else has put there. Lots of podcasts and press releases and New York Times articles and what not are missing I’m not doing this all day again Dorierosie (talk) 17:47, 28 October 2021 (UTC)


 * I think I need to explain something. I don't think you need an article on Wikipedia. Without one, people will still be able to type your name into Google, work out who you are, and get relevant information from your website and from IMDB. Indeed, they are likely to then have better information that you have more control over and won't be stuck in the situation we're now in. It also means you won't get stressed out in trying to fight the information here, and you can spend your time doing more productive things. I hope that addresses your concerns.
 * The relevant maxim here is "Do no harm" and that is what I am trying to get out of this. For what it's worth, a good friend of mine is a voice-over artist and radio presenter who has been in the business for several decades, but doesn't have a Wikipedia article and I don't think is particularly keen on having one. It certainly doesn't seem to harm her making a living. Two people on the internet I regularly follow are Tobias Stone and Luke Miani - neither have Wikipedia articles (our Tobias Stone article is not about the modern day political author) - again, neither is harmed by not having one.
 * As an aside, I will read your Medium blog at some point, but I've used up my limit of articles at the moment. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  17:49, 28 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Your official website https://www.katemillernyla.com/ when Press is clicked on goes to a porn site. The second press link that is.   D r e a m Focus  17:52, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Yikes! Thanks for letting me know DF, I'm glad my children aren't watching this computer terminal. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  17:53, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Yikes is right thanks for letting me know because yesterday it was working fine and went to my broadway.com article and my IG an article and everything else so some computer geek probably from this chat room is now fucking with me everywhere on the Internet Dorierosie (talk) 17:59, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Truly I’m on set right now whoever just let me know about the dirty link is now remedied by WIX and they have been notified to block tampering. The thing is, porn is pretty popular and it might drive traffic to my site and my Google rank might even go higher! Blessings in disguise Dorierosie (talk) 18:09, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

In regards to the “do no harm”, harm is done when people who don’t know someone go onto someone’s page that was randomly created for them and put the wrong name and wrong Birthday and incorrect and incomplete information. That is harm done to a person or a public figure. Misinformation is always harmful. Dorierosie (talk) 18:11, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Kate, a little more insight, Wikipedia articles should not and are not created for the subject of the article. They are free information according to WMF's libre mission. It may be edited by the public but it is owned by WMF and maintained by volunteer editors. This is why they don't want you, the subject, editing the article on yourself. The conflict of interest is you. This is not a profile page. That's what Ritchie is trying to say and why the suggestion is to think abut whether you really want an article on yourself or not. I don't want to encourage you either way. I am not voting on the AfD because I have fought for you during this process because I felt the reason for the block was incorrect. But if you decide you are okay with the article and if it passes AfD and is kept then you have to concede that you do not own the article. You can not edit the article and you do not control what the article says. Only what Wikipedia considers a reliable source provides the information that goes into the article, whether it is positive concerning you or negative so long as it is neutrally worded. That's a hard thing to accept. It's possible that there may, at some point, be information included that you may not want there but is found in reliable sources. We don't control what the sources say. Where information is clearly erroneous and not found in reliable sources or violates the BLP policies then that can and should be removed. I just want you to be informed and be in the know. -- A Rose Wolf  20:10, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

I think the discussion is pretty much at an end, except to say I have read "Your Crazy Aunt" and have to applaud Kate for coming out and saying that sort of thing publicly. Unlike her, I don't want to publicly disclose some of the unpleasantness that has happened in my life, but one point I recognise as pertinent to my own life : "When a person has next to no self-esteem and is in the habit of engaging in unhealthy patterns, you literally have to relearn who you are and how to relate to other people" and why I can't really subscribe to the Fan qua sentiat (or, "call a spade a f***ing shovel") approach to on-wiki communications anymore. I think we often forget behind the editor is a real person with real thoughts and ideals, and the blog post I linked to here rams that point home. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  23:21, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for that, Ritchie. It rings very true with myself. -- A Rose Wolf  14:30, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

November 2021
Hello, Dorierosie, welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions. Your editing pattern indicates that you may be using multiple accounts or coordinating editing with people outside Wikipedia, such as. Our policy on multiple accounts usually does not allow this, and users who misuse multiple accounts may be blocked from editing. If you operate multiple accounts directly or with the help of another person, please disclose these connections. ''Editing while logged out during a block is not permitted. See WP:EVASION for more information.'' Netherzone (talk) 21:29, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

I’m already blocked from editing Dorierosie (talk) 21:53, 2 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello Dorierosie, did you happen to edit anywhere on WP while not logged in? Netherzone (talk) 01:47, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Kate, it's very important that you answer the above truthfully and I assume you will. Some of us have and continue to speak up for you at various venues. Block evasion and pretending to be someone else on your behalf is a serious breech of ethics and protocols here and I don't want to see the community affected by something like that. It would be a shame for all involved. I understand the delicate nature of the situation and I can relate to the trauma you might have felt seeing all of the false information listed about you in Wikipedia's BLP article about yourself. Most of the false information has been removed. The original reason for blocking you has been satisfied with your clarification of no legal threats. It is still up to Wikipedia administrators as to whether they would approve your appeal or not but if you are editing while not logged in to bypass the block then you need to come forward with that now rather than wait. In the end it may be moot because I don't see the article surviving the deletion process but I don't base my actions here on such things anyway. I apologize for any affects these processes have had on you, personally, and I understand if you would have a feeling of bitterness towards this encyclopedia however, speaking for my fellow editors, these are the processes we have and, while we can and should follow a code of civility and maintain empathy for the subjects of these articles, we are here to build a better encyclopedia, not a perfect one, and we do the best we can. It's a small consolation but I wanted you to know that someone does care and we are not robots or just artificial intelligence here. -- A Rose Wolf  13:29, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Just a note regarding unblock, I am still waiting on your reply to my unblock proposal above, but this also needs clarification. Feel free to respond to bother inquiries in this section. Primefac (talk) 13:47, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

There are a myriad of sections in this chat room and the blocking person already retracted this is not my responsibility Dorierosie (talk) 15:26, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

AND NO! Dorierosie (talk) 15:26, 3 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello again Dorierosie, forgive me if I was not specific enough previously. These are the edits I was wondering about:, , - were they possibly added by you or someone close/known to you? Thank you. Netherzone (talk) 16:19, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

While they are correct, I have no idea one way or the other. I do know that my website traffic in my IMDb star meter have jumped significantly in the past two weeks while all of these discussions have been going on so maybe somebody finally got him to correct information about my career and my life? I can barely respond anybody on here I’m so blocked and I don’t know how to navigate this thing. I’m not a kid and I’m not techno proficient! Dorierosie (talk) 16:46, 3 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the quick reply Dorierosie, much appreciated. One of the reasons I asked is that the name of one of the images that IP 172.116.188.176 requested to be added to your article is called "/Users/johndimaggio/Desktop/Kate Miller.jpg". Isn't johndimaggio the name of your husband? Who would have access to his computer desktop with that image file on it? It seems odd to me if you don't mind my saying so. Netherzone (talk) 23:45, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Our personal assistant perhaps heard me bitching about this nightmare & didn’t realize your stringent absurd unfair megalomaniacal bureaucratic rules Dorierosie (talk) 00:39, 4 November 2021 (UTC)