User talk:Dorkmatter5891

November 2023
Hello, Dorkmatter5891, welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions. Your editing pattern indicates that you may be using multiple accounts or coordinating editing with people outside Wikipedia, such as. Our policy on multiple accounts usually does not allow this, and users who misuse multiple accounts may be blocked from editing. If you operate multiple accounts directly or with the help of another person, please disclose these connections. Thank you. SparklyNights 19:03, 3 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi SparklyNights, this account DorkMatter5891 is not a duplicate account of mine. We are doing the edits of this person's page in very neutral, unbiased, and sourced ways. Is there any way we can make any changes to eliminate the partisan language on the page currently? We are not hostile. And this is not at all vandalism. We are trying our minimum effort to make the article more neutral than it is now. I'll wait for your response. Thank you. Poison22334 (talk) 19:35, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
 * SparklyNights We wish to make small changes to the article to neutralize it. Also, the current article about Song is outdated. I'm asking you whether there is any way for us to add neutral, sourced material on it. Please respond to this message. Thank you. Poison22334 (talk) 19:42, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry, man, but I think there is very little chance that the changes you want to make will actually be accepted in that article. The best thing you can do right now is create a thread at this page (click the "add topic" button at the top) explaining the specific changes you wish to be made in the article and hope that other Wikipedians will side with you.
 * Wikipedia articles are not supposed to be "neutral" in the common definiton of the word, we have a very specific definition of "neutrality" here that does allow articles to portray living persons in a negative light (see WP:NPOV). The previous version of this article was not perfect, but your changes made it even less compliant with wikipedia's guidelines and that is why I reverted it. That's the thing with having/creating a Wikipedia article about yourself or someone who is associated with you, Wikipedia has no obligation to portray anyone in a good light. If someone adds negative information about people, and the information is well-sourced, it will stay. You are not the first person to complain that "X article about someone that I care about is not neutral", we get these requests basically every day here. SparklyNights 20:08, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Dear SparklyNights, thank you for your messages and apologies for my delayed response. I can confirm I'm indeed not a duplicate account. Many thanks for your suggestion to create a thread. I appreciate what you've written regarding Wikipedia "neutrality".
 * As Poisson22334 has mentioned, it is merely our intention to provide balance to the existing article as it is partisan and defamatory. There is a rather lengthy backstory to the creation of this article, which I refrain from outlining here. Suffice to say, there have been several malicious actors posting material in order to portray the subject in a negative light, in all likelihood as an attempt to influence legal proceedings which were taking place at the time these edits were made.
 * I'd also add that at the time the wiki article was created, the subject was only 5 years of age, and during the time in which these prejudicial statements were added to this wiki article, the subject was also still a minor and not in a position to defend themselves. In the first instance I'd advocate for the article to be removed (which I'm given to understand is not easily approved), but for the time-being it is important that legitimate counter-evidence to the assertions in this article is presented. It is an unbalanced article, malicious in tone, and continues to have a demonstrable negative impact on the reputation and career of the subject. At the very least, factual counter-evidence should be permitted to be added to the existing article. Dorkmatter5891 (talk) 10:50, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * "I can confirm I'm indeed not a duplicate account."
 * You have tried to add the exact same content as the other two blocked accounts in that article. If you indeed are not a sock, then you're more likely than not a WP:MEATPUPPET. Either way, coordinating outside Wikipedia to edit articles is forbidden. The changes that you tried to make in that article are also not in line with Wikipedia's policy regarding original research. SparklyNights (t) 16:40, 10 November 2023 (UTC)