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The Bugle: IssueICLXVI, February 2020
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March Madness 2020
G'day all, March Madness 2020 is about to get underway, and there is bling aplenty for those who want to get stuck into the backlog by way of tagging, assessing, updating, adding or improving resources and creating articles. If you haven't already signed up to participate, why not? The more the merrier! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:19, 29 February 2020 (UTC) for the coord team

Thank you for being one of Wikipedia's top medical contributors!

 * please help translate this message into your local language via meta

Thanks again :-) --  Doc James  along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 18:35, 5 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi - Many thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 18:41, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Atholl Highlanders
Hello Dormskirk, I am the archivist at Blair Castle and represent the Atholl Highlanders. Thank you for editing our page but I am having some difficulty with text you have deleted. The text has been provided by the Atholl Higlanders themselves and they have asked me to it add to the page. Please can you add the edited information back to the page. If you would like to contact me directly my email is archive@blair-castle.co.uk.


 * Hi - If you represent the Atholl Highlanders or Blair Castle you have a conflict of interest (see WP:COI) and should not edit the article. Any text needs to be properly cited using independent published sources in accordance with WP:V, WP:CITE and WP:RS. If you can provide such sources then please propose the additional material and related citations at Talk:Atholl Highlanders. Thank you. Dormskirk (talk) 10:06, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXVII, March 2020
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Commander UK Strike Force removal of text
Did you check the reference when you removed the detailed list of ships etc regarding the 'Green Eagle' deployment? The list is *fully* cited, though I admit I clearly did not cite the second paragraph which I'll have to re-source before I readd. Please check references more carefully in future.

With the thousands of litres of metaphorical printers' ink which WP editors have spilled over the Royal Navy since the Armada, anything about 'very dated' in regard to anything since 1700 or so sounds a bit hypocritical as well. Regards Buckshot06 (talk) 14:44, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * If you and maybe others believe that the COMUKMARFOR history from 2001-2010 ish is dubious with the Strike Force article, I will split UKMARFOR to reduce the chances that somebody thinks it's dated enough to just remove. Buckshot06 (talk) 14:50, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Apologies if I removed something I should not have. My intention was really just to clean up the article following the change of name. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 15:34, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

13th Signal History
Can you help work on the history of 13 Signal Regiment (United Kingdom), clean it up further and when was it disbanded exactly?

Thanks

BlueD954 (talk) 05:17, 17 March 2020 (UTC)


 * I have cleaned it up a bit. It appears to have been disbanded sometime in 1995. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 08:39, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

NHS trust / board navboxes
Hi,

I noticed that you have been editing some navbox templates that I have created for NHS trusts and boards (e.g. Template:Aneurin Bevan University Health Board) by adding the word "hospitals" to the titles, and moving some others from "Template:XXX" to "Template:Hospitals in XXX".

Personally, I do not agree with this. For example, I have added these navboxes to the articles for the trusts/boards, and not just the hospitals, so it is better if the title is just the name of the trust/board as this means it can be used for both trust articles and hospital articles.

Furthermore, some of your moves do not make sense to me from a grammatical point of view. For example, you moved a template I created from Template:NHS Highland to Template:Hospitals in NHS Highland. I don't think this is correct as "NHS Highland" is not a geographical area, but rather an organisation, so the hospitals are not "in" the organisation but rather run by them. Template:NHS Highland hospitals would make more sense, but as I said, since I want to use these templates on the trust articles as well it would be better if they were at Template:NHS Highland.

Please let me know what you think of this.

Best wishes Elshad (talk) 18:18, 19 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi - I actually don't have strong views on this. I am trying to achieve consistency. If you look at "Category:Hospital templates" you will see that the Scottish ones are now all "Hospitals in NHS ...". I don't think it matters as long as we have consistency. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 18:22, 19 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the quick reply. I see what you mean by the original NHS Scotland templates, some of which date back to 2007, and were created by an editor who is no longer active. Since you don't have a strong opinion on this, would you mind if I moved them all to my preferred name, so long as it is consistent? Elshad (talk) 18:29, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, I am referring to the earlier templates. I am fine for you to change them all to your preferred name. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 18:44, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Create article on ACNS People Transformation
This person is going to be important for Royal Navy reform. Ought to place him in the Organisation section. What do you think?

See https://issuu.com/navynews/docs/nn_issuu_march_2020 page 21 Rear Admiral Philip Hally.

BlueD954 (talk) 11:42, 31 March 2020 (UTC)


 * I agree that he is going to be important for naval reform. However he does not hold any of the key posts listed in the Organisation section so my current view is that it would not be appropriate to include him there at this time. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 12:09, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Aw.BlueD954 (talk) 14:36, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Check my latest edits both officers holding the post of Navy Secretary and Flag Officer Seat Training have recently retired - links added to their pages/profile. Quite sure based on the Navy News article, RADM Philip Hally has assumed their responsibilities. Create article? BlueD954 (talk) 02:21, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, I will create one. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 07:30, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
 * See Philip Hally. I now agree with you that as Assistant Chief of the Naval Staff (People Transformation) he should appear in the Organisation section. Many thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 08:29, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Good one but I don't agree with Colin Mackie that Hally's title is Navy Secretary. He is just ACNS People Transformation but takes upon the responsibilities of FOST and NS.BlueD954 (talk) 13:08, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I see from Hally's linked in page, he is claiming to be Naval Secretary. See Linked-in. Unfortunately we cannot use that as a source. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 16:30, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
 * You are correct. BlueD954 (talk) 03:17, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Very many thanks for that! Dormskirk (talk) 17:49, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
 * You're very welcome, It's the least I could do :), Take care, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 17:51, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

New Commander Joint Helicopter Command
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Helicopter_Command#Senior_Commanders

5TH JULY 2019 Air Commodore N J Colman OBE to be promoted Air Vice-Marshal and to be Commander Joint Helicopter Command in March 2020 in succession to Rear Admiral J P Pentreath CB OBE. https://www.raf.mod.uk/our-organisation/senior-appointments/

FYI

BlueD954 (talk) 02:41, 4 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Now done. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 09:41, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

To remove?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assistant_Chief_of_the_Naval_Staff#Director_Naval_Support_(DNS)

Matthew S Harrison is not a Royal Navy Officer but a civil servant working in Navy Command see, https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/872218/Navy_Mar_19_senior_data.csv/preview. Remove?

BlueD954 (talk) 11:40, 7 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Yes, I agree. There are plenty of other civil servants we could include here but it would be inappropriate to include them. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 14:18, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

List of Hospitals
Hi, Yeah I would like to help and expand, I am guessing it is more a list of current hospitals rather than ones that have closed, as I did remove the 2 Bristol ones that are now closed, Bristol General and Frenchay. I have found a good source for bed numbers is CQC reports, which tend to list bed numbers by trusts and hospitals, so could add them as references. Mark999 (talk) 20:59, 9 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi - Thanks for that. I confirm that this list is a list of current hospitals. I have been removing defunct ones as I go through the list. I have now removed the London tables in the list as I am convinced the bed numbers there were unreliable. Some Trusts do publish their total bed numbers but do not publish a breakdown and I find that the information in the CQC reports is inconsistent (sometimes they give bed numbers and sometimes they don't). I don't think this list is the right place to insert the bed numbers. It is probably best to focus on inserting reliably sourced bed numbers in the infoboxes of the articles on individual hospitals. Otherwise we are going to have a lot of gaps in the list. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 21:56, 9 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Fair enough, I am going to try something in my sandbox with South West hospitals and see what you think. Mark999 (talk) 17:06, 11 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that. I think we need to do it for England as a whole and, ideally, for Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland as well. The key is obtaining properly sourced bed numbers by hospital and so far I have been unable to find them for the country as a whole. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 17:24, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXVIII, April 2020
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Southampton Civic Centre
Good work.  Cassianto Talk  08:25, 14 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Many thanks for that. Dormskirk (talk) 10:46, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Dene Barton Community Hospital
Just in case you care, I have proposed Dene Barton Community Hospital for deletion. As the only one of 12 community hospitals in Somerset to have its own article I don't see what is so special about this one. Either we have none, or we look to create the others. Thoughts? --2A00:23C6:FA04:0:14CA:6231:B479:FD4E (talk) 10:52, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Normally, I would say that if the hospital has any real history to it then it should be retained. But this one was only established in 2002 and we do not even have a picture of it. So I agree with you. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 10:54, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

A goat for you!
Hey, I am trying to figure out how I can make changes my company page. because there are some updates but it is not showing in the Wikipedia Page

BlackcodeX (talk) 05:24, 20 April 2020 (UTC) 


 * Hi - If you work for the company you have a conflict of interest so you should not be making changes yourself per WP:COI. Instead you should be proposing any essential changes on the talk page of that article. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 08:02, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Great. Many thanks - much appreciated. Dormskirk (talk) 11:17, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

James Gordon
Hi Dormskirk. Please see here: Anne (talk) 00:36, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi Dormskirk. I am trying to deal with revisions for the James Gordon page. I have prepared a new paragraph for Military Service and it is in my Sandbox ready to go. As always I have at least two references incorrectly formatted. Would you be kind enough to correct any mistakes I have made and then copy and paste it into the JG page, in place of the paragraph already there? Much appreciated if you would. There's much more to come, but the edit pages do terrify me, so I will have to prepare the next bit in the sandbox too. The link here sates that the 80th Regiment arrived in America in August 1779, so is there any way of including the ‘August’ in the prepared paragraph too, because the newspaper only states 1779? Thank you. Anne (talk) 00:50, 8 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi - Done. I think. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 09:28, 8 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much Dormskirk. Much appreciated. Could you just change the Huntley Express references to read "James Gordon" rather than "Andrew Gordon"?!  Otherwise I am pleased to have more detail in there for JG. There is more to follow in Early Life, but I have to find the courage to attempt it. I will put it in my sandbox when ready.Anne (talk) 09:42, 8 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Done. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 09:44, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * As always I appreciate everything you do to help me. Thank you. Reference 21, (to the Mayo book), has a much better source here: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015009310916&view=1up&seq=24 All the references to "Mayo", "Samuel Graham" and "Vanderpoel" have far far better sources on the Hathitrust links, which are all listed on Cinderella157's sandbox5, under Source Material. It would be a big job to improve all three reference sources on both the James Gordon and Charles Asgill pages, but if done, then direct links to the passages in question would be immediately visible. Do you feel up to it? It sounds daunting to me, but perhaps not to you? Anne (talk) 10:09, 8 May 2020 (UTC)


 * I think I have changed all the citations now for those three books although it take a bit of time! Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 10:56, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I am sure anyone looking at the page will appreciate going direct to a full printed version so easily. Anne (talk) 11:02, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, but reference [1] doesn't link to page 105! Would be grateful if you could please change.Anne (talk) 11:40, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorted. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 11:57, 8 May 2020 (UTC)


 * I've done the easy bit, JG's mother. I'd be grateful if you could delete the 'mother' entry completely and replace with what is in my Sandbox please. First, though, there are a couple of other minor amendments listed.  What comes later, for the 'father' entry, will not make sense unless those amendments are made.  There are too many James Gordons - our one was the Third Laird of Ellon - and final Laird, Anne (talk) 13:27, 8 May 2020 (UTC)


 * I think I have sorted it. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 13:52, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes, thank you! Just a query on this: We know from The New York Gazette and Weekly Mercury, Monday 20 October 1783 that James Gordon died on 17 October 1783 - two places at top of page need adjusting to include this information don't they? And does JG being the third Laird need this reference? [Huntly Express 7 Dec 1906 https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/bl/0002658/19061207/135/0007#] Anne (talk) 14:45, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Done. Best wishes, Dormskirk (talk) 14:55, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Don't you think someone will remove the d.o.d. without the reference I gave? Seems a shame to run that risk to me!Anne (talk) 14:57, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * It was referenced in the main text so it probably would have been OK but I have referenced it anyway. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 15:04, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Dormskirk, the section on 'Gordon's father' is now ready in my sandbox. It needs to be inserted as the first item on "Early Life". I have temporarily removed everything that was there on the father, to avoid confusion with what comes next. I have prepared it as best I can but know you will titivate where needed. Please note the bit about his father's date of death too. There is more to come, but I can only cope with all this in small bites. The next bit is the final bit. Anne (talk) 16:00, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I have added it. I hope that's OK. Best wishes, Dormskirk (talk) 16:19, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

My nightmare day is over Dormskirk! The final section is waiting for upload to the main page! Today's edits have been rather "Outlander" haven't they?! My very sincere thanks for all your superb help today. Thank you so much. Anne (talk) 16:47, 8 May 2020 (UTC)


 * All done, I think. And many thanks for your kind comments. Dormskirk (talk) 17:02, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

50,000 Destubbing Challenge Focus of the Week
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FOST appointment will cease to exist
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/657879/response/1564086/attach/2/2020%2004357%20Davis%20Response.pdf?cookie_passthrough=1

WEF 1 May 2020. FYI

BlueD954 (talk) 04:51, 28 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Interesting. Many thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 08:30, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Me and my "citing"!
Hello! I see you've had to tidy up after me again. Sorry about that. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong when I'm citing sources - it seems to work OK sometimes and then it doesn't, but I'm doing exactly the same thing. What am I getting wrong? Please advise. --DSQ (talk) 22:40, 28 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi - No problem. Just take a look at WP:CITE and it shows you how to fill out the citation template. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 22:46, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank-you for your work
Dear Contributor,

Firstly Thank you for updating our Wikipedia and keeping us stimulated on every single account. I am an employe in Rentokil initial's and as terms & condition says I can't update our Wikipedia. So I am here to give you some information about our company so that you can add some articles in our Wikipedia and make it up to date.

Rentokil Initial is a Company working in more than 183 countries. And this company also having subsidiaries one of them is INITIAL HYGIENE which is not mentioned on Wikipedia page.

Can you please create a section on our company Wikipedia page with little information on "Initial Hygiene Global" & "Initial Hygiene India"?

Please let me know if you have any questions, and below I am adding all references and official links where you can gather information and update accordingly.

I am grateful for your support and contribution.

Thanks & Regards, Shalini Suman

http://www.initial.com/ http://www.initial.com/in https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prospect-of-a-cleaner-future-lifts-rentokil-initial-jffcmcg8d https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/rentokil-plans-to-clean-up-after-lockdown-6dm3pzdsj — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shalinisuman29 (talk • contribs) 15:30, 4 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi - The article should be about the group rather than the subsidiaries. Are there any notable issues or controversies at group level which are not already picked up? Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 15:55, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

HMS Audacious
Hi can you add HMS Audacious (S122) to the [] table; I'm not sure how to and I don't want to spoil the table. The source is https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-answers-statements/written-question/Lords/2020-04-29/HL3735/ though it sounds strange.

Thanks

BlueD954 (talk) 13:34, 11 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Done. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 14:15, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks !BlueD954 (talk) 15:18, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

help with table
Hi again.

Can you help me remove Audacious from the table here; I keep messing it up. Thanks.

BlueD954 (talk) 16:22, 12 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Done, I think...it is quite tricky! Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 16:41, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you. BlueD954 (talk) 02:35, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Richard Costain for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Richard Costain is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Richard Costain until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. JTZegers (talk) 19:39, 12 May 2020 (UTC)


 * I have made my comments on the relevant page and on your talk page. Dormskirk (talk) 21:56, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * OK. Thanks for that. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 22:05, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

RAF 1 Group history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._1_Group_RAF#Battle_of_Normandy

Ever heard of "No.11 Base", "No. 12 Base" etc? Also are the references here appropriate?

Thanks

BlueD954 (talk) 10:02, 13 May 2020 (UTC)


 * My understanding is that these were bases which were created on an ad hoc basis and then just allocated a number. e.g. No. 1 Base at Shaiba in Iraq in 1942 and No. 1 Base at Feltwell in Norfolk after the war. I believe that Niehorster is a good source; raf.web is also pretty good and is extensively used but in this case the link does not lead to a working web page. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 10:31, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks, thought it sounded weird. BlueD954 (talk) 11:49, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXIX, May 2020
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Lower Case vs Proper Nouns.
Hi Dom, you should use lower case for improper nouns such as a commanding officer in general. In this case, it is the job title of that specific role, I.e. he was the Commanding Officer of RNAS Yeovilton not a commanding officer in general. These rules need to be applied in context. Cosywafu (talk) 13:18, 16 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi - WP:JOBTITLES states that job titles are capitalized only in the following cases: (i) When followed by a person's name to form a title..., (ii) when a title is used to refer to a specific person as a substitute for their name during their time in office..., (iii) when a formal title for a specific entity (or conventional translation thereof) is addressed as a title or position in and of itself, is not plural, is not preceded by a modifier. I don't believe any of these three apply here. Dormskirk (talk) 13:27, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

WP:ICON
I completely understand that Wikipedia does not promote inserting icons in Infobox, but these icons make the task informative and easier to understand. I have seen your recent edits on article "Roy Bucher" and you removed the ribbon icons of the awards in the Infobox. They are just to bring uniformity to all the appointees of Chief of the Army Staff (India). All the other to hold COAS post have icons next to their awards. I hope you will understand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UlaBrita 838 (talk • contribs) 18:42, 19 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi - I think you have misread WP:ICON. It says in a bold heading "Avoid flag icons in infoboxes". It also says in bold "Consistency is not paramount" and in the narrative "it is better to remove the flags even if that makes the list, table or infobox inconsistent with others of the same type where no problems have arisen". So it is quite clear that the icons should be removed. Of course the icons should be removed for the other holders of the COAS post as well. Finally per WP:BRD you should not re-insert the icons until this matter is resolved or you may be accused of edit-waring. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 19:38, 19 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Then please remove icon from all the COAS. UlaBrita 838 (talk) 14:20, 23 May 2020 (UTC)


 * OK. It is not a priority at the moment (they are gradually being removed from all UK infoboxes) but we will get there. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 14:25, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

St Luke's Hospital, Bradford
Many thanks for tidying up St Luke's Hospital, Bradford after my move. I was waiting for the template changes to ripple through before picking up the rest of the links but you beat me to it. Keith D (talk) 13:48, 24 May 2020 (UTC)


 * No problem. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 13:51, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXX, June 2020
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Suggested updates for BAT article
Hi there

My name is Will Hill and, in the interests of transparency, I want to make it clear that I work in the communications team at BAT.

I noticed you recently made edits to the BAT Wikipedia article, and wanted to raise a few points areas that are out of date or no longer factually correct. It would be great if you could take a look at the updates I've drafted and tell me what you think.

I haven't proposed updates to Wikipedia for many years (I used to update Next15 PLC's page) but my attempted updated draft is below:

British American Tobacco plc (BAT) is a multinational company that manufactures and sells cigarettes, tobacco and other nicotine products. The company, established in 1902, is headquartered in London, England. As of 2019, it is the largest cigarette maker in the world based on net sales. BAT has operations in around 180 countries, and its cigarette brands include Dunhill, Kent, Lucky Strike, Pall Mall and Rothmans. BAT’s acquisition of Reynolds American Inc. in 2016 created the world’s largest listed tobacco company. By acquiring Reynolds, BAT also acquired US brands Newport, Camel, and Natural American Spirit. The company does not necessarily own the rights to all of these brands in every nation they are marketed. BAT manufactures and sells vapour and heated tobacco products, modern oral products, as well as traditional oral products such as snus and moist snuff. Its brands include Vype and Vuse and glo. BAT has a primary listing on the London Stock Exchange and is a constituent of the FTSE 100 Index. It has a secondary listing on the Johannesburg Stock Exchange. BAT plc ordinary shares are also listed on the New York Stock Exchange in the form of American Depositary Shares (“ADSs”). In March 2020 BAT announced a new commercial direction, focusing on generating “an increasingly greater proportion of [its] revenue from products other than cigarettes.”

Motorsport
In 1997 BAT brought its participation in the sport to new levels with the purchase of the Tyrrell team for approximately £30 million. The team raced as Tyrrell for the 1998 season before being renamed as British American Racing (BAR). In 2005 a European Union (EU) directive was brought into force which required national governments to legislate to prevent tobacco sponsorship. In 2004 BAR announced that technology partner Honda had purchased a 45% stake and in September 2005 it announced that Honda would be buying the remaining 55% stake. The team raced as Honda Racing F1 Team in 2006, the last year of the Lucky Strike sponsorship before leaving the sport. For the 2006 season, the team was renamed as Honda F1 Racing Team, with BAT only advertised at a couple of races. All links between the two companies were severed for 2007. In 2019 McLaren signed a multi-year deal with British American Tobacco. McLaren's announcement of a "global partnership" with BAT brings the company back into F1 for the first time since Honda succeeded BAR. In late 2019 BAT and McLaren announced the signing of an enhanced partnership deal that saw BAT become a Principal Partner of McLaren for the 2020 Formula 1 season.

Do let me know if you have any thoughts - I look forward to hearing from you.

Thank you,

Will.

Hi - I have transferred your message to the article talk page which is the right place for it. Dormskirk (talk) 08:13, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Harry Neal Ltd.
Hello again Dormskirk, after a gap of seven years. We used to comment on construction history articles.

I saw your reply on Sor William Arrol and will have a look at the early history.

I have published an article on Harry Neal, a one-time prominent London builder. I am happy with the text of the article, largeley sourced from the official history but it is the first tiime I have put in a new article as opposed to editing existing ones and I suspect I have not got all the protocaols right. I notice that it does not come up properly in a search. Would you mind having a look at it for me.

Regards Bebington (talk) 09:22, 23 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi - Good to hear from you. I have tidied the article up a bit. Please remember to add references to every paragraph even if the material is from the same source. I have also added a bit to the Tobacco Dock article so that it mentions Harry Neal Ltd. I hope this helps. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 09:55, 23 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Many thanks for that. I did wonder about referencing each para but I thought it seemed a bit repetitive. On a point of detail, Harry Neal Ltd was not the developer for the Tobacco Dock,only the contrctor. The actual developer was the the family in the form of a separate company.


 * Regards Bebington (talk) 13:12, 23 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Great. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 13:14, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Truncated BAT logo
Dear Dormskirk

Many thanks for making the amendments. I take your points on those that you didn't make.

I did notice our logo appeared to have truncated and wanted to flag the following sources of decent version of our new logo where you could download new versions:

-	https://www.bat.com/whoweare -	https://www.bat.com/group/sites/uk__9d9kcy.nsf/vwPagesWebLive/DO52ADCY/$FILE/BAT_New_Logo.svg

Many thanks for your consideration.

Will. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wellrdhill (talk • contribs) 17:08, 23 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi - it will have been truncated to remove the slogan. We do not allow any form of advertising. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 17:13, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

No. 23 Group RAF
At this new page you will see a number of RAF air vice-marshals that if you had the time and interest, you could if you want create articles for. There's lots of good information on them available via the group listing on rabweb.org. Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 07:54, 28 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that - I will bear in mind. Best wishes, Dormskirk (talk) 08:50, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

St Leonard's Hospital, Hackney
In your edit of 9 July 2018 you added the words "St Leonard's Hospital was a hospital in Hackney, North London." to the article but didn't provide a source. Where did you get the information from? 2A00:23C5:E117:6100:31B2:1FA0:395:609 (talk) 12:22, 30 June 2020 (UTC)


 * I used an atlas. It is in the middle of the London Borough of Hackney. Dormskirk (talk) 12:25, 30 June 2020 (UTC)


 * But did the atlas claim it is no longer a hospital?  See Reference desk/Language 2A00:23C5:E117:6100:31B2:1FA0:395:609 (talk) 12:30, 30 June 2020 (UTC)


 * I am not sure that I see the point. Atlases do not make claims. I suspect that I simply looked to see what part of London the site was in (it was two years ago). Dormskirk (talk) 12:38, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Be aware that the IP is a sock of a banned user. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:40, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the warning. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 20:01, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Noel Quin, HSBC CEO
Dear Dormskirk,

You may recall that I’ve been in touch in the past because of your interest in the FTSE100. I work for communications advisory firm Brunswick, and I am acting today on behalf of HSBC and their global CEO Noel Quinn. I can see that you helped establish a new entry about Mr. Quinn following his appointment in March. If it is useful to you and the community, I have assembled some further information about him, which might help to add some depth and detail to the entry. I’ve included some suggested citations as well, in case they are helpful.

''Noel Quinn is a British banking businessman who is Group Chief Executive of HSBC Holdings plc as of March 2020, having succeeded John Flint. He initially assumed the role on an interim basis in August 2019.

''Prior to becoming Group Chief Executive, Quinn was Chief Executive of HSBC’s Global Commercial Banking division from December 2015. He became a Group Managing Director in September 2016. From 2011 to 2015 Quinn was Regional Head of Commercial Banking for Asia-Pacific, based in Hong Kong.

''Quinn joined Forward Trust Group, a subsidiary of Midland Bank, in 1987. Midland Bank was acquired by HSBC in 1992. He led HSBC’s acquisitions of Swan National Motor Finance and Eversholt Leasing Ltd, becoming General Manager of each business in turn.

''He has since served as Head of Specialised and Equity Finance at HSBC, Group Director of Strategy & Development at HSBC Insurance Services North America, Head of Commercial Finance Europe, and Head of Commercial Banking UK (2008-2011). ''

I appreciate you and other editors exercise extra caution around bios of living persons, so recognise you may not want to include all of this information, but wanted to provide it so you would have the broadest base of information to choose from.

Please do let me know if you have any questions. And many thanks for considering.

Tmmanson (talk) 08:01, 2 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi - I am moving to the article talk page for transparency. Dormskirk (talk) 08:39, 2 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks very much, sir. Tmmanson (talk) 11:08, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

London Regiment
I came back today to continue fixing links to London Regiment, but they're all done - thank you for your help! Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:57, 5 July 2020 (UTC)


 * No problem. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 09:16, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Can you help fix my edit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Her_Majesty%27s_Naval_Service

https://issuu.com/navynews/docs/issuu_june_2020 pages 20-21

thanks BlueD954 (talk) 07:42, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Done. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 08:28, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Can you also fix https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Intelligence,_Surveillance_and_Reconnaissance_Brigade thanks again

BlueD954 (talk) 13:33, 7 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Done. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 14:12, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks BlueD954 (talk) 04:07, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Watford Colloseum
Hi - Thanks for your excellent work on the Watford article some years back. It seems to me that there is enough material on the Watford Colosseum to justify a separate article to encourage expansion. Are you OK if I do that? Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 08:38, 8 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I don't think there is quite enough information there at the moment to justify a split right now. However, I do think it has enough notability. The appropriate procedure would be to build on Watford until you have, say, twice what is there at the moment, then split it off to a new article, leaving behind a summary of about half the size that is there now, which would likely be about the same size and content of the lead of the new article you'd create. I'd be happy to help out - and to help tidy up the Watford article, which looks a bit messy and cluttered at the moment, and with an inadequate lead section. SilkTork (talk) 16:36, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Hipgnosis
Hiya and thanks for all the clean up on Hipgnosis! It's a really cool company (and it really will change the way songwriters get paid). But! Beside the point. I added the key people back in -- I know it doesn't adhere to the format but in this case expanding that section is important - they are songwriters and gatekeepers - they inform the direction of the company - they are the people chanting "equal pay." If that doesn't work feel free to revert (of course). Thanks! Julie  16:14, 9 July 2020 (UTC)JSFarman (talk)


 * Hi - Your additions look fine. Many thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 16:21, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

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Page moves
Hi,

Have you reverted all my name change edits?

I am of the opinion that the name should also consider the way people search for the company whether on the Google or Wikipedia.

Should I incorporate it on "Wikipedia:Article titles", or please suggest way to discuss the opinion.

For discussion purpose, who will decide the final name, whether its administrator or general public.

Best regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sulaymān Hercules (talk • contribs) 14:54, 14 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi - I have only reverted your changes for Mace (construction company), LVMH and CH2M Hill. I reverted these changes because the new names you had adopted did not seem to comply with WP:COMMONNAME. If you want to propose changes like this you need to comply with WP:RM. This procedure will invite requests for comment, enable a discussion to take place for each of the companies and, ultimately, a consensus will be reached for each one. The is the wikipedia community who consider the matter and make the decision. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 15:08, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Golden Wiki for Watford Colosseum

 * Very many thanks for this. Dormskirk (talk) 08:25, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Help
Can you edit the box of George Norton, he succeeded John Kingwell 21/7/20. I don't want to mess it up. Thks. BlueD954 (talk) 16:19, 21 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Done. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 16:22, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you! BlueD954 (talk) 00:11, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

NatWest Group
Hi, Natwest Group is actually branded as NatWest Group (example on the NatWest Group website: )

Could you update the renaming of the article with a capital W' Thanks Angryskies (talk) 15:25, 22 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Will do. That article name has already been used for a redirect so I will get it deleted so we can make the move. Dormskirk (talk) 15:27, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you Angryskies (talk) 15:29, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

"Facility"
Hallo, Keswick Museum is on my watch list so I saw your recent work on the page, and that led me to look at The Moot Hall. I see that "facility" is your favoured term to use in the lead sentence - a glimpse at your contributions led me to Morley Town Hall too. I note from your talk page that public buildings are one of your specialities.

I wonder if we can find some other phrasing for these articles, as describing buildings like these as "facilities" doesn't seem to me to contribute much information for the reader, and it conjures up associations with public conveniences. I can see that it's preferable to avoid repeition as in "Keswick Museum is a museum..." but honestly I think that's preferable. The "Morley Town Hall is a grade I listed building ..." would be fine too, though perhaps you avoid that because understanding it requires readers to know about the UK listing system?

Perhaps there's a wider forum where this terminology would be better discussed, like the UK noticeboard? I just thought I'd drop by here first.

Thanks for all your work - the Keswick Museum article certainly had a long legacy of unsourced stuff, especially the detailed chronology added by an IP in 2008, before I started editing it in 2013. It's a great little museum if you're in the area - and I see it reopened last week, without even the need to book. Pam D  09:31, 2 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your comments - yes, I also know the Keswick museum well. My preference would certainly be to avoid repetition. An alternative word to "facility" would be "institution" - I don't particularly like it because it has certain connotations in a health context (specifically mental health). Perhaps "public building" might be the best solution. I agree that wider debate would be helpful. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 09:59, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_of_the_British_Armed_Forces artcle
Getting too much to list all 2*s and above, many who arent even on www.gulabin.com 's list. Will also post on Mark 4 life. BlueD954 (talk) 01:42, 9 August 2020 (UTC)


 * I agree - I don't think the table should be there at all: all that is needed is a simple statement that 2*s and above are appointed by the Queen. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 10:11, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Please check my edits on 9/8/2020
I ma have made typos. Sorry for the bother.BlueD954 (talk) 05:49, 9 August 2020 (UTC)


 * I have made a few small adjustments - looks good to me. Thanks, Dormskirk (talk) 10:33, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * thanksBlueD954 (talk) 13:08, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

WikiProject Hospitals
Thank you for all your quality work on hospital articles in the UK. I didn't see your name on the list of participants in the WP:HOS project. We have set goals and are cleaning up existing hospital articles, using metrics to show progress on maintenance and quality. (G. Moore talk   12:28, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that: I have now added my name. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 12:37, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Miscellaneous
Good morning Dormskirk

I have moved on from building company histories to looking at some of my books on the old trading companies. I have put in new entries on C Czarnikow, James Finlay and a virtual new one on the Harrison Line. I have also added a substantial new section on the 1974 property collapse to the Crown Agents. The Crown Agents article had previously been criticized as ”This article contains content that is written like an advertisement” but I think the main problem was that it totally omitted what was one of the biggest financial scandals of its time. In fact, the early history looks reasonable and it is perhaps the last bit on the Foundation that looks a bit on the promotional side. How would you deal with it now.

The other article I have been looking at is the old plantation company Harrisons & Crosfield, now Elementis. Would you like to have a look at that entry? I am always hesitant about doing a total rewrite of someone else’s work but it not of the highest quality and gives little mention of over 100 years of plantation. I have the official Company history which was published in 1990 and there are accounts filed at Companies House. It would be tortuous synthesizing that into a couple of pages but it could be done. What do you think?

I remain surprised at how many company articles ignore official histories.

Regards Bebington (talk) 10:35, 12 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi - I agree that the history section of the Elementis article could do with some expansion. It already gives some useful information on how the company got into chemicals but it could do with several more paragraphs on the early history. Your new articles look very good: there are a few missing references: don't forget that the minimum requirement is a citation at the end of each paragraph. Best wishes and thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 10:44, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you.Bebington (talk) 15:50, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Admiral of the Fleet
Thanks for removing this, I hesitated over its utility but left it there out of soft-heartedness for whoever added it in the first place. This whole history section needs a thorough rewrite, if for no other reason than getting it into some kind of chronological order~ -- Euryalus (talk) 10:56, 25 August 2020 (UTC)


 * I thought about it carefully as well. My main driver for removing it was the lack of a citation but it also seemed a bit unfair to single out Edward VII for his lack of naval service! Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 11:00, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

File:Bharti Airtel Limited logo.svg
Hi Dormskirk. Why are you adding non-free use rationales to this file’s page. Non-free rationales are only necessary for non-free files and this file is licensed as PD-ineligible-USonly. Public domain files don’t require a non-free use rationale because their usage isn’t subject to Wikipedia’s non-free content use policy. Are you trying to claim that the updated version of the file that you uploaded is protected by copyright? — Marchjuly (talk) 10:34, 27 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi - If you don't think a non-free use rationale is necessary please feel free to remove it. I was responding to a bot which had removed the logo from the Airtel Africa on the basis that it was a WP:NFCC violation(s). The bot seemed to require an additional rationale specific to Airtel Africa so I added one. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 10:47, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * The bot flagged the file for violations of WP:NFCC because you replaced the information template with a non-free use rationale when you updated the file. The created a conflict because the bot sees both a PD license and a non-free use rationale, and doesn’t know which is “correct”. If you think the file is too complex to be ineligible for copyright protection, then that’s OK; you should, however, replace the current license with a non-free one instead. If you’re not sure, then you can ask at WP:MCQ. — Marchjuly (talk) 11:15, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I am not sure what you are proposing but please feel free to go ahead and resolve the issue if you don't think my attempt is adequate. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 11:19, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I’m not proposing anything. I’m trying to figure out why you replaced the “Information” template with a non-free use rationale when you updated the file. Was there a specific reason that you did that? The bot only started removing the file from articles because you made that change and I’m just trying to understand why. If you just did it by mistake, then that’s OK and your edits can be undone. If you did it for a specific reason, then it would help sort things out if you could clarify what that was. — Marchjuly (talk) 13:29, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * As already explained the bot seemed to require an additional rationale specific to Airtel Africa so I added one. It was not a mistake...I did exactly as the bot requested. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 13:35, 27 August 2020 (
 * My sincerest apologies. You weren’t the editor who added the first non-free use rationale to the file’s page, which is the thing that created this mess and caused the bot to start removing files. I’ve stricken a few of my above posts. I’m really sorry about the mix up. — Marchjuly (talk) 13:56, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 13:58, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

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Nomination of Sanne Group for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Sanne Group is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Sanne Group until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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 * Now resolved - thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 10:32, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Re Message to me Gary Radley

 * Yes, they do: please read WP:CITE and WP:RS. Wikipedia cannot be used as a source. Also see WP:CIRCULAR. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 09:43, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Senior Officer
Hi, succeeding Air Marshal Julian Young is Vice-Admiral Richard Thompson see references https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/907555/20200707_DE_S_Org_chart_July_2020_v3.pdf and https://www.raf.mod.uk/our-organisation/senior-appointments/ 4th September 2020 with the new title Director General instead of Chief of Materiel. For you to create.

Thanks. BlueD954 (talk) 11:24, 5 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Done. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 12:50, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
 * :) BlueD954 (talk) 14:24, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Head of the British Armed Forces
The user Marked4life seems to be adding many senior officers without stating 1) are they really given letters of appointment by the queen; 2) Are these appointments like service secretaries - he makes mistakes, and deputies to the main services significant to list? 3) Note even sure if just OF-8s get the letters, what about OF6s,? 4) What is the point listing like Commander, Joint Helicopter Command? Might as well list division commanders and AOCs. 4) What about joint/NATO officers like Deputy SACEUR?

What are your thoughts? Would you defend?

BlueD954 (talk) 07:52, 8 September 2020 (UTC)


 * My view, as stated on the talk page, is that this table should go. I will re-state my views. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 08:25, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you. BlueD954 (talk) 13:09, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

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Panshanger
Why have you removed my citation needed tag from Panshanger for the claim that the estate was inherited by Ethel Grenfell? That is not supported by the source as far as I can see. SpinningSpark 18:57, 12 September 2020 (UTC)


 * My apologies: I meant to remove the material that had been added recently. I did not spot that you were also challenging some earlier material. I have now added a reference regarding Ethel Grenfell. Thanks for pointing this out. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 19:04, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

GOC 1st Division
is for some reason, now Major-General Charles S Collins, not sure which month he took command. See https://thearmyleader.co.uk/major-general-charlie-collins-interview/ and https://twitter.com/thearmyleader/status/1304376390272212992. Do you want the create an article of him? He was previously ACOS J5, PJHQ. BlueD954 (talk) 05:13, 13 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Done: see Charles Collins. I think he has just been appointed. Thanks, Dormskirk (talk) 10:01, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks.BlueD954 (talk) 10:06, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

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Media request
Hello Dormskirk, I am writing a feature on editors of asset management companies' Wikipedia pages. I am trying to figure out how to contact you in order to send you a few questions about the topic in private but couldn't find any mail. Let me know if there is any email address through which I can reach you. Many thanks. Best, AP 30 September 2020


 * Hi - I have just seen this as it was posted to an archive. Unfortunately most editors do not disclose their personal details (including email addresses). Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 13:44, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Coat of Arms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:NATO_command_structure

Do you think you could fix the Coat of Arms for JFC-NF Joint Force Command Norfolk, at the bottom ; I can't get it right? Thanks.

BlueD954 (talk) 08:02, 30 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Now sorted, I think. It was quite tricky. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 09:09, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Bot removed it but thanks. BlueD954 (talk) 12:05, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I have changed the licence so that it is the same as the other coats of arms: that might work. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 12:16, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Many thanks BlueD954 (talk) 14:58, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Infobox
Hi,

Question, which Wiki infobox would be appropriate for this article Independent Commission for Aid Impact; I can't decide which. Can you decide, thanks.

BlueD954 (talk) 14:57, 4 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi - My first reaction would be Template:Infobox organization but I don't normally write articles on organisations. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 15:28, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you. BlueD954 (talk) 02:45, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

File:Joint Force Command Norfolk badge.png listed for discussion
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 * Original Non-free use rationale restored as recommended. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 08:28, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Simon Roberts
Dear Dormskirk,

My name is Sophie and I work in the communications team at Sainsbury’s. You may recall that I’ve been in touch in the past about our then CEO. I wanted to see if you would consider some factual updates to the entry for Simon Roberts, our new CEO. I’m aware of Wikipedia’s COI rules, and so I wanted to ask for some help in reviewing this page as it could do with being fleshed out a bit. I wanted to make some suggestions to beef up the biographical section and I'd be incredibly grateful if you could please review the entry and consider my suggestions. To flesh out Simon’s entry, I have listed some suggested changes and included citations in case that’s helpful: Please let me know if you have any questions. Many thanks. SPraill (talk) 09:42, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ‘Upon becoming CEO, Simon Roberts made two senior appointments to Sainsbury’s operating board, making Clo Moriarty, previously Chief Digital Director, Retail and Digital Director and promoting Chief Marketing Officer Mark Given to the operating board.’ Sources for this include these articles in the Daily Mail, Retail Week and The Grocer.
 * ‘Simon moved quickly to prioritise diversity in hiring’ Source here in Retail Week
 * ‘and he is continuing Sainsbury’s and Argos’s digital strategy, which includes the discontinuation of the Argos catalogue in July 2020.’ Sources include the Mirror, Metro and the Sun
 * ‘During the coronavirus pandemic, Sainsbury’s has reached milestones including doubling the number of online grocery delivery slots to 700,000 in October 2020.’ Sources include Daily Mail and Reuters


 * Hi - I have just seen this as it was posted to an archive. Please can you use the request edit template on the talk page of the article when requesting edits. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 13:42, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

RAF Akrotiri
I noticed that you improved the article in May, removing some unsourced text and finding/adding some sources. I saw this after I myself today altered material that wasn't reflected by those sources. Since you added those previously-missing citations, I just wanted to let you know, in case I removed some material that you think can easily be supported by some easy to find sources. Thanks, — Paleo Neonate  – 10:51, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * OK. Thanks for that. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 10:54, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Harman Lines, Warminster
Impressed with your work on Wiltshire military sites. Do you have any sources for Harman Lines? Shows on Google Maps just east of Waterloo Lines. Probably too small for an article but would be good to expand Warminster.

Some photos here. Wire723 (talk) 10:24, 10 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that. I must admit that I am not familiar with Harman Lines. Sir Jack Harman only died in 2009, so it is likely to have been called something else before. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 10:40, 10 October 2020 (UTC)


 * No worries, and thanks for the tip on the name. Wire723 (talk) 13:55, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

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I would like your support or clarity
WRT That section describes how the Field Army was structured after the 2019 restructuring- not how it looks now -why did he/her revert when 'after 2019 today's restructure? What on earth is wrong? BlueD954 (talk) 06:31, 19 October 2020 (UTC)


 * I am not close enough to this issue. It seems to rest around whether the section is describing the "Field Army restructuring in July or August 2019" or "Field Army restructuring in September 2020". I am not sure of the benefits of either date. Are we trying to keep this article constantly updated in real time? Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 08:28, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes. "Future of the British Army" cannot stop at 2019 for sure. In fact there's this page List of units and formations of the British Army 2020. BlueD954 (talk) 09:34, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

The London Regiment
A user removed the higher commands in the article the London Regiment (1993). Is it under 11th Infantry Brigade or the London District as per this ? Do you think the 'Part of' part should include 11th Infantry Brigade - the reference in the article don't specifically state so.

Your thoughts?

BlueD954 (talk) 02:57, 28 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi - Based on, it does appear that it is part of London District. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 09:15, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you. BlueD954 (talk) 07:49, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Help with merger process
Apologies for spamming, but I would like to propose a merger between British Army Structure In 2010 and Army 2020 added rationale in talk pages. But did I add the right banners for the process and talk pages? Thanks for your help in advance. BlueD954 (talk) 04:17, 29 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Now cleaned up a bit. I agree with the proposal. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 09:50, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much. I made a PROD for it but that was swiftly removed hours before the dateline and the user who removed it and renamed the article made no attempt to improve it. BlueD954 (talk) 10:50, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Did I make a mistake in my request to move?
I made this request Talk:Future_of_the_British_Army but I don't see a notification on the article - or do I have to wait? Thanks.
 * Thanks for the fix. BlueD954 (talk) 09:19, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I think you got it right in the first place. It just takes a bit of time. best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 09:21, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Bradford & Bingley
Hello.

Other than very recent events, and issues, there was no real history for this Society, nor for Bingley B.S. or Bradford Equitable B.S. I have put in some historical content but I have a problem with the article heading for what is shown as Bingley Permanent B.S. You can see the explanation on the Bingley Talk Page. I don't know how to change a main page heading - could you look at it?

Incidentally, the more recent material could do with some editing and elimination of material of minor importance.

Regards Bebington (talk) 17:08, 2 November 2020 (UTC)


 * I have moved the article to "Bingley Building Society" as requested. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 17:20, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Many thanks Bebington (talk) 18:51, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Head British Defence Attaché Washington DC
AVM Gavin Parker retired https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/63164/supplement/18606. AVM Mike Smeath is the new Defence Attache. https://www.raf.mod.uk/our-organisation/senior-appointments/ fyi

BlueD954 (talk) 09:09, 3 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Updated. See Michael Smeath. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 09:31, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
 * But he's Air Vice-Marshal https://www.gov.uk/government/people/mick-smeath. Or do you want to wait until the Gazette states so? BlueD954 (talk) 10:09, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I would update him now based on https://www.gov.uk/government/people/mick-smeath. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 10:13, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. BlueD954 (talk) 11:15, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Help with my redirect
I do not want Sayan (Mossad) to be a redirect to Victor Ostrovsky. So I nominated it today. But I think I messed up the listing here Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2020_November_5. Could you fix it for me?

Thank you.

BlueD954 (talk) 10:05, 5 November 2020 (UTC)


 * I think I have sorted it. Dormskirk (talk) 10:37, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks BlueD954 (talk) 11:14, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Royal Marines Lists and today's London Gazette
I started List of serving senior officers of the Royal Marines. Can you check? I copied from List of serving senior officers of the Royal Navy and I don't know how to remove the (unnecessary) column 'Designation' without messing up the article - can you help?

Also here's today's promotions and resignations - https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/63170/supplement/19045 - any senior officer you wish to create?

Thank You. BlueD954 (talk) 14:03, 10 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Looks fine to me. Good job. Dormskirk (talk) 14:06, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXV, November 2020
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I know I'm not suppose to canvass
But please support my AfDs in ; you can find them via my user name. Thanks.


 * I will give this thought. I am not sure that I have strong views either way on these, although I would prefer not to see a proliferation of orbats. Dormskirk (talk) 11:59, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Very well. BlueD954 (talk) 12:16, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Do kindly vote. Thanks. BlueD954 (talk) 14:23, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I have added some comments. Dormskirk (talk) 14:36, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Building Societies
Good Morning

I have moved on to the history section of Building Societies and it is striking how little early history is included in the articles. One might find the best part of 150 years of existence is summarized in a line or two, followed by lengthy sections on demutualization or one-off contemporary issues. Much of this tends to be referenced to internet citations from news media. There is rarely any use of the range of company histories that are available.

I am slowly working my way through the alphabet and put in early history sections for four societies – you can see the list of these from my home page. I am currently reading the Coventry Building Society History and if you look at that article you will see what I mean – the first hundred years in six lines.

These ae just general observations but I have one specific query. The Bradford Equitable B.S. has a banner saying this article does not cite any sources. I am not an administrator but I now think it is now more adequately sourced – if you want to get rid of the banner.

Regards Bebington (talk) 10:55, 14 November 2020 (UTC)


 * I have removed the banner. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 11:11, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Heart of England Buiding Society
Good afternoon This was a stub article with only a couple of lines. I have put in a fuller history. If you are happy with that, could you take down the stub message. Many thanks Bebington (talk) 14:00, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Done. Great job. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 14:06, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. Have a happy new year.Bebington (talk) 15:36, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Same to you. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 15:43, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Ramsbury Building Society
Hello

I have created a new article on the Ramsbury, fully sourced from the official history up to 1981 and then with limited data from the BSA mergers list, also cited and with its limitations noted in the text. Someoone has put in a big panel saying citations needed and it looks as if he is an editor. Could you have a look at it please.

Regards Bebington (talk) 14:40, 22 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi - I would suggest you add some extra citations, possibly at the end of each sentence. You might also draw on a broader range of sources rather than just depending on three sources. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 14:47, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

I can repeat the same source if necessary but that seems artificial. There is very little material available on the early history of these building societies and the Ramsbury history is particulary well sourced. I am not sure why it needs to be repeated.

Regards Bebington (talk) 16:12, 22 January 2021 (UTC)


 * I think that is probably what is expected but feel free to contact the editor who added the tag if you are in any doubt. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 16:40, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

MI5
Hello Dormskirk, Could I please refer you to the latest "edits" to the MI5 page. Regards, David J Johnson (talk) 18:45, 25 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Have now reported this "user" to WP:ARV. Best regards, David J Johnson (talk) 19:18, 25 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Great. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 19:19, 25 November 2020 (UTC)


 * "User" has been blocked for a week. Could you please restore pic, as I'm up to edit limit on this item.  Many thanks and regards, David,, David J Johnson (talk) 19:33, 25 November 2020 (UTC)


 * No problem - already done. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 19:35, 25 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Many thanks. David J Johnson (talk) 19:49, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Help performing a merger
Hi, has closed with 'Agree to merging of article(s) as per CONSENSUS.'

But I'm not sure how to perform the merger of British Army Structure In 2010 into Army_2020.

I read Merging but still confused. Can you help perform the merger? Thanks. BlueD954 (talk) 03:33, 4 December 2020 (UTC)


 * It is just a matter of moving what material needs to be retained from British Army Structure In 2010 and copying it into Army_2020. I suspect there will be very little. It will need a line by line review of British Army Structure In 2010 to identify any useful material; after transferring the material you then blank British Army Structure In 2010. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 07:42, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't see any need for material in British Army Structure In 2010 to be retained; do I blank the whole article and redirect? BlueD954 (talk) 09:06, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * yes, if there is nothing to be retained, just do that. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 10:32, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Nominations for the 2020 Military history WikiProject Newcomer and Historian of the Year awards now open
G'day all, the nominations for the 2020 Military history WikiProject newcomer and Historian of the Year are open, all editors are encouraged to nominate candidates for the awards before until 23:59 (GMT) on 15 December 2020, after which voting will occur for 14 days. There is not much time left to nominate worthy recipients, so get to it! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 06:45, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Request edits
Hi, I was reading through Sir Charles Asgill, 2nd Baronet and you mentioned an admin sanctioning for responding to edit requests without giving other editors time to comment. This sounded very unusual to me, considering the huge backlog at Template:Request edit and the lack of editors that respond to these requests, which causes me to implement or decline edits independently because of the lack of editors in this area. I don't mean to bring up old problems, but can you link to the discussion, or send me an email with a link if you don't want to post it here? I hope you feel confident in responding to requests again to help clear that backlog. Z1720 (talk) 15:48, 12 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi - Thanks for your interest. I was not actually sanctioned - my concern is that I would be sanctioned if I do it again. To be precise and quoting from Talk:Sir Charles Asgill, 2nd Baronet "I have recently taken some flak from an admin for implementing an edit request pinged at me which was also well presented and factual...And I do not wish to be sanctioned for my second offence of responding to edit requests when other editors may wish to comment / edit the text".


 * The flak I refer to was at Talk:BP#PAID editing. The conflicted editor had pinged me asking me to add some comments about some environmental initiatives. My view was that the requests "were well presented and factual" and I added them. However, I was accused by the admin of allowing the conflicted editor "to write the content". The admin explained that [rather than the editor pinging me / me responding to the ping], the editor "should use the "request edit" template so that others see the request. That's how it normally works." [The implication presumably being that the request needs to get to the top of the list before it is responded to]. When I tried to raise a related environmental issue (regarding a different company) with the same admin (see User talk:SlimVirgin#Environmental issues again), explaining that "My direction of travel remains that the efforts of companies that do really good things for the environment should be recognised", another admin jumped in quoting me on a different page and stating that my foregoing view was "the very opposite of WP:NPOV, destructive of the purpose of an encyclopedia, turning it into a publication like Charity Navigator". (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Impax Asset Management Group).


 * I have been careful above simply to state the facts of the case. That said I am really quite troubled by all this - my main interest is in content writing and while I have taken great pleasure in responding to numerous edit requests in the past (and there is a large backlog) it is becoming really unpleasant. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 16:40, 12 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi Dormskirk, I read through the exchange at BP and Slim's talk page. I sympathise with the perspectives expressed, although I don't agree with all the comments left by various editors. I have also noticed AfDs where sources describing good works are given less weight by some editors (but I do not want to express an opinion on that matter here). If you want a second opinion on a request edit, feel free to ping me (although I think you have way more experience than me, so maybe I should be pinging you :P). I hope that we can make this area more pleasant and inviting for editors, and I hope you return to evaluating requests when you are ready. Z1720 (talk) 18:20, 12 December 2020 (UTC)


 * That's very kind, thanks. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 18:24, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, I don't think "The implication presumably being that the request needs to get to the top of the list before it is responded to" is actually the implication. Most queues on Wikipedia aren't dealt with in strict order, and I'm not aware that edit requests are an exception. If they were dealt with in order, a particularly complex request at the front of the queue could hold up many simpler requests. You should feel free to respond to edit requests wherever they stand in the queue. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:07, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * OK. Thanks for that. The implication is nevertheless that I responded too soon: the complaint was that I made the edit "just over one hour later" and I am now unclear as to what the minimum waiting time is. Since this episode occurred I have been avoiding this whole process. I am not surprised there is a huge backlog of conflicted editors seeking help. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 22:02, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXVI, December 2020
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Many edits
Hi Dormskirk. You know I always appreciate your extensive hard work on List of city and town halls in the United Kingdom, but do you think you could combine small edits in one so as not to make about a hundred? You could always short-term save the code onto a Word doc if you think it might take a few hours to go through. It's just completely congested my watchlist today. Thanks, Rcsprinter123   (parlez)  00:41, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * OK - no problem. Sorry about that. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 00:47, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

RN appointments
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/royal_navy_appointments_reportin#incoming-1693242

Please update the relevant pages especially Fleet Commander and Second Sea Lord.

2401:7400:6004:A149:BC87:67CD:D3F1:A66B (talk) 03:36, 17 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi - I have added a couple of comments on those two pages. Dormskirk (talk) 09:38, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi you made incorrect edits for Second Sea Lord; place under departments -- remove chief of staff integrated programme and cgrm and fosni. 2401:7400:6004:A149:60EF:AE58:B904:D2EF (talk) 12:16, 17 December 2020 (UTC)


 * I have moved them to a more appropriate place. Dormskirk (talk) 12:29, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Director Develop and Director Develop are the same per the FOI. Do remove the latter.2401:7400:6004:A149:60EF:AE58:B904:D2EF (talk) 12:31, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I have removed the duplication. If you need to make any further adjustments I suggest you make them yourself or use the "edit request" facility. Dormskirk (talk) 12:38, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

ACNS Policy
https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2020/december/15/20201215-arctic-convoys

https://britisharmedforcesreview.wordpress.com/list-of-senior-british-serving-personnel

New.2401:7400:6004:A149:88F2:E405:562:2BC1 (talk) 15:01, 17 December 2020 (UTC)


 * See Iain Lower. Dormskirk (talk) 17:48, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * wrong promotion date November 2020 check gazette not gulabin.2401:7400:6001:772A:C135:6DF:4974:E01B (talk) 23:52, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Adjusted. Dormskirk (talk) 23:59, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

MI5
Hello Dormskirk, Please see the latest attempt to change MI5. Best regards, David, David J Johnson (talk) 12:24, 22 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi - Yes, seen. My understanding is that it is "Box 500". That said this Telegraph article suggests that simply "Box" might also be right. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 12:48, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Henry Wilson
It's true that subheads usually aren't turned into links, but it's not unprecedented. The link to the Curragh Incident got added which is what was needed. I didn't want to rewrite the well-written article. I didn't think of adding what you did. In the event, six of one, half a dozen of the other.

PainMan (talk) 13:23, 27 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Fine. No problem. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 13:33, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Voting for "Military Historian of the Year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" closing
G'day all, voting for the WikiProject Military history "Military Historian of the Year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" is about to close, so if you haven't already, click on the links and have your say before 23:59 (GMT) on 30 December! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:34, 28 December 2020 (UTC) for the coord team

Roger Hollis
Hello Dormskirk, I'm a little concerned that recent changes to the Roger Hollis page and other associated pages are being changed to suit a editor's own view, see. I'm not a great fan of Harry Chapman Pincher, but is final book on the subject does present some new evidence worth considering, rather that what currently appears to be establishment views. Regards and a Happy New Year. David, David J Johnson (talk) 17:18, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Noted but I cannot say I have strong views on this. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 17:25, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm finding problems with the article, and is partly to cause. With this, this, and this edits I removed things that the references do not say. The last of which was added by David. Pincher's book is located here and I checked it. There was no such thing on page 241....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 18:08, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Again, noted. Such material certainly does need to be properly sourced. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 18:38, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I saw your edit here. The part you removed mentioned the Manhattan Project. Manhattan isn't even mentioned one time in Wright's book. After finding four things referenced in the article when the references say no such thing, I wonder how much of it is fiction....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 18:52, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I am not sure what you mean by "is the complaint department on the roof?" Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 18:57, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * That's just part of my signature. My maternal Grandfather used to use that expression....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 18:59, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * BTW, I just discovered you are the editor who added the Manhattan mention to the article and the reference that said it came from Wright's book....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 19:17, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I can only assuming I was reading a different edition of the book - it would have been online. But my view remains that if it cannot be properly referenced it should be removed. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 19:22, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * My sincere apologies if I have muddied the waters, but there does appear to be different versions of Pincher's book. David J Johnson (talk) 12:55, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem. Thanks for letting me know. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 13:04, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Northwick Park Hospital
Hello. I have reverted your edit to Northwick Park Hospital. I totally understand the confusion with this page but consensus has not been met on the talk page to make this change to my edit. You also did not provide any sources to counter the three I provided.

I will add a response on the article's talk page as well. AussieWikiDan (talk) 05:21, 4 January 2021 (UTC)


 * OK. Let's see how the discussion develops and keep it in one place. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 09:28, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Crown Agents
Happy New Year

Could you look at the entry on the Crown Agents. A few weeks ago I put in a section on the Crown Agents' role in the 1974 financial Crisis, when it was one of the high profile collapses. On January 2nd the whole of this was deleted on the grounds that it was not part of the existing organisation. In effect, this is saying that if you change the name and the legal structure, you can whitewash any uncomfotable history.

I cannot see any evidence of other contributions and I assume that this is someone connected to the Crown Agents who is trying to sanitise the history of the Crown Agents. Incidentally, the last paragraph of what remains of the history still refers to "The Property Collapse Below" !

Regards Bebington (talk) 15:49, 4 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi - I have put it in date order and tidied it up a bit: I agree that history should not be whitewashed. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 16:27, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Many thanks. I never touched the rest of the article but I did thin it could do with some tidying up.

Regards

Bebington (talk) 18:56, 4 January 2021 (UTC)


 * No problem. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 18:58, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXVII, January 2021
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FYI
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/3712809

BlueD954 (talk) 07:14, 17 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Noted. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 10:38, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft review
Hi Dormskirk. I was wondering if you would be willing to weigh in on whether this draft is better than the current BitFlyer page. The COI draft was implemented by one editor, then most of the page was deleted by another. As a result, I am unclear on next steps for improving the page while following WP:COI. Thank you! Sebastien0693 (talk) 16:58, 26 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi - As another experienced editor is already involved (User:JzG), I will defer to him on this. Best wishes, Dormskirk (talk) 17:29, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

quandary
your advice - in oz/strylia we have heritage listed items tagged on talk pages with 'historic sites' project - as we have no significant locally grown project that captures the significance of heritage listed items. It is noted that the very us bias doesnt preclude their also having other projects in the us sibject arearelated to heritage listings. Do you think it is innapropriate (on my part) to add the item onto uk and edinburgh heritage properties and categories ? I would clearly understand an argument to not include, just curious how you might look at it - I would gladly revert myself if their is an adverse reaction... I havein the past seen that edinburgh items are at times neglected - thanks for whatever you might be doing to improve... JarrahTree 10:08, 29 January 2021 (UTC)


 * I personally would not have a problem with this, especially if the tag was on the talk page. In the UK heritage buildings are usually easily identified because they are listed buildings so this is not so much of an issue here. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 10:28, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that - appreciate the response. When I was in Edinburgh some years ago I didnt get much more than the library vicinity - now I realise some of the streets that I walked almost every building is listed!  Thanks again. JarrahTree 10:36, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

FYI
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/international-affairs-appointments-in-no10-and-cabinet-office

Update where needed. Don't ping me.

BlueD954 (talk) 15:06, 29 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Noted. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 15:15, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

UK Space Command is a reality
https://twitter.com/Godderstwit/status/1356369145663729666 - FYI.

Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 09:46, 2 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Article now created: see Paul Godfrey (RAF officer). Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 10:33, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thankyou. Good quick work. Do watch the internal railway lines in your head, though: not Air Officer Commanding, whether of UK or RAF Space Command, but "Commander, United Kingdom Space Command." Cheers Buckshot06 (talk) 16:38, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Noted. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 16:44, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

WO2 rank Royal Navy
https://twitter.com/WO1MickTurnbull/status/1356635634094473219

Re-introduced not sure how to insert. FYI

BlueD954 (talk) 04:39, 3 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Noted. I am not sure where it would go myself so will leave for now. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 10:07, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Middlesex Hospital.
Thanks for that Reference No.. I don't yet know how to add one to an Edit. 79.73.43.219 (talk) 18:23, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
 * No problem. I have added it for you. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 18:40, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Architects of civic offices in Central Milton Keynes
I reverted your addition of the architects of the civic offices from Milton Keynes as excessively detailed for that article. If you want to pursue it, then maybe you could start a new section at Central Milton Keynes on the architecture? The architects of Milton Keynes Theatre are given in that article. For MK Gallery, they are given in footnote 18 at Central Milton Keynes. Skyscraperpage.com says that the architects for Xscape were FaulknerBrowns. Other notable buildings include the Law Courts, the original Shopping Building (listed G2), the bus station (listed G2), the railway station, Quadrant:MK and, for prize-winning cheap'n'nasty spec building, The Hub. Hours of family fun! --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 12:27, 8 February 2021 (UTC) I see you have already moved it, thank you. To my eye, in that position, it looks like linkspam, but you have been an editor long enough to know how best to do these things. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 12:30, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi - It seems to me that, as the democratic heart of the new town, it is an important building with a distinctive design. I am happy to have moved the text: if you feel it could be moved to a better place, then please feel free to move it again. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 12:44, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

FTSE Index.
Thanks for reverting my edit, I've just realized what nbsp means. Canol (talk)


 * Hi - No problem. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 12:00, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Maj Gen Edward Willis CB CMG (Further information)
Dear Dormskirk:

I am Garrett John Hickey (present US equity options trader) and former historian at Trinity College (Dublin), with a special interest in Irish or South African related army, aviation or naval matters.

IRISH in BRITISH AVIATION before 1943

In 2017, I updated the Pilots and Crew sections of websites relating to Irish staff in Imperial Airways (predecessor to BA and BOAC).

Jack Sheppard - - I found significant information relating to Senior Pilot Capt John ['Jack'] Sheppard (1899 - 1982), an Irishman who was in charge of the Imperial Airways Flying Boat squadron of aircraft during the 1930's and 1940's. (He was also my father-in-law!). Edward Willis - - Another relation (by marriage) was Major General Edward Willis CB CMG (1870 - 1961) of the Royal Artillery. There is an excellent "wiki" site, edited by you, covering this person.

However, it ignores Augusta Barlow, his first wife (1881 - 1924), who was the mother of his son John Willis MC (1908 - 1965). She was a Barlow from Lancashire (hence the mill connection) who died in 1924.

FYI, her brother Ernest Barlow emigrated to South Africa in 1907 and (with his wife Kate) founded the Barlow Rand conglomerate, now South Africa's second largest company.

Call me on 087 24 25 570 with queries.

Best

GARRETT HICKEY GarBalls (talk) 23:02, 17 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi - I have now added some material on Augusta Barlow. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 23:48, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Suggested updates for British Land article
Hi, I’m Eloise and I work in the communications team at British Land. I noticed you recently made edits to the British Land Wikipedia article, and wanted to flag that there are several areas that are out of date or no longer factually correct. It would be great if you could take a look at the updates I've drafted and tell me what you think. My go at the draft is below:

(PROPOSED TEXT MOVED TO Talk:British Land)

Look forward to hearing from you. Thank you, Eloise Eh272021 (talk) 14:38, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi - For many years I used to help conflicted editors, providing the material they wrote was well presented and factual. Since October 2020, I have decided not to respond to edit requests as the whole area is toxic. I see there are currently some 200 requests waiting to be reviewed, so it appears that other experienced editors may have opted out of providing help as well. I suggest that you use the request edit template. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 10:35, 27 December 2020 (UTC)