User talk:DorothyP99

December 2017
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Speedy deletion nomination of Rick Drumm


A tag has been placed on Rick Drumm, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the. Atlantic306 (talk) 13:31, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

COI
If you have a conflict of interest and you must declare it. If you work directly or indirectly for Drumm or his organisation, or otherwise are acting on his behalf, you are very strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. If you are paid directly or indirectly by him or his organisation, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:   . If you are being compensated, please provide the required disclosure. Note that editing with a COI is discouraged, but permitted as long as it is declared. Concealing a COI can lead to a block. Please do not edit further until you respond to this message.

Also read the following regarding writing an article
 * you must provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the organisation, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the organisation claims or interviewing its management. Note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls
 * you must write in a non-promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic.
 * there shouldn't be any url links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections.
 * you must not copy text from elsewhere. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. We require that text posted here can be used, modified and distributed for any purpose, including commercial; text is considered to be copyright unless explicitly stated otherwise. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient.

Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Also read Your first article. You must also reply to the COI request above

Jimfbleak - talk to me?  13:52, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Final warning
I note that all your edits have been related to Caleb Chapman, and members of his band. If you do not reply to the COI request above, I will block you as an undisclosed paid editor and delete all your contributions. Jimfbleak - talk to me?  13:48, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply. It's still not entirely transparent though. Your reply gives the impression that you are a interested external observer, whereas File:Rick_Drumm.jpg, tagged as your own work, appears to show that you know them at least well enough to take an obviously posed picture. As I said before, if you have a paid connection directly or indirectly with the group, you must post , suitably completed, on your user page. If you are connected with the group in an unpaid capacity, the connected contributor tag you have already added will do, but at the moment I'm not clear whether you are paid or not. You don't need to "out" yourself, just clarify that point
 * The message above seems brutal, but often paid editors decide that the simplest strategy is to just ignore warnings, so it's necessary to make sure there is no misunderstanding Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  06:57, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

More
On the images issue, whatever you were told, images can only be used here if they are verifiably public domain or CC BY-SA 3.0 licensed. In practice that means that they are either (genuinely) your own work, explicitly marked as PD (rare except US federal government) or they have been released by the copyright owner via the OTRS system.

The Rick Drumm article was nominated for deletion because of its promotional tone, and I concurred. For example, Drumm is renowned for his numerous contributions to the music products industry is promotional, fact-free and sourced to a clearly promotional and probably self-written Sessions bio. making crucial improvements to the company in management structure, factory efficiency, and marketing Good source, but one writer's opinion is just that; an opinion, not a fact. he founded Traction® Business Coaching, using the Entrepreneurial Operating System® to help businesses achieve their goals. The ® symbol should be avoided; it's usually an indicator of a company posting, looks spammy, and it's not our job to protect registrations or trade marks. The last six words are again a promotional opinion added to a real fact. Drumm has shared two patents with whom?

I'm prepared in principal to restore this as a draft and remove what I think is promotional. Let me know if you wish to proceed on that basis Jimfbleak - talk to me?  06:56, 14 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Restored at Draft:Rick Drumm. I made these changes. Note my earlier comments; some of the refs are still suspect, and it still feels a bit hagiographic Jimfbleak - talk to me?  07:24, 15 February 2018 (UTC)