User talk:Dostro

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Hello, Dostro, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type   and your question on this page, and someone will show up shortly to answer. Here are a few good links for newcomers: We hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! By the way, you can sign your name on talk and vote pages using four tildes, like this: &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126;. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Active Banana   ( bananaphone  13:16, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
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Wikipediais NOT a fansite or promotional tool for the band
Please note that content in Wikipedia articles must be supported by citations to reliable third party sources and presented in a neutral point of view, not in a promotional manner. Please do not attempt to return the article about the Pin Ups to a fansite rather than a encyclopedic coverage. Active Banana   ( bananaphone  15:49, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Please, no personal attacks
Please, no personal attacks. Also, anyone from any country can edit any article. BUT they must edit it in accordance with Wikipedia's policies of providing verified andencyclopedic content, presented in a neutral point of view. Active Banana   ( bananaphone  16:00, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Please Help me Out
Active Banana, the information that was posted and the info that re-posted are all verifiable. That is why I am frustrated. it's akin to martial law. You put up work and then someone tears it down. The information on the band is legit. PLEASE check the links and refer to the history. The censorship is uncalled for.
 * While perhaps verifiable it was NOT verified as having been published in a reliable third party source. It is the responsibility of the person who wishes to add or return content to provide those sources. Active Banana   ( bananaphone  16:12, 26 August 2010 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict) Throwing around accusations of censorship is unfounded, bad form and against policy. You need to stop doing so and discuss the merits of the edits you propose. 69.181.249.92 (talk) 16:13, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Apology & rectification
Okay, granted I may lost my temper. However, please do not just erase hard work without explaining. Will you allow me to come up with an article that can be verified by a third party? Will you please just help me?
 * I am not sure I follow the claim of "not explaining" - there are multiple links to relevent information about why the content was removed as inappropriate that I have placed here on your talk page.
 * One way that this can work is for you to create a "sandbox" article User:Dostro/PinUps and work on a draft of the article there where you cite all of the claims in the article. When you have questions or think you are "ready for prime time" request someone to review the content and give you feedback. When the draft generally meets the Wikipedia guidelines, the content can be merged/moved to the "live" article. Active Banana   ( bananaphone  16:28, 26 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Every single thing you put into an article must be confirmed by reliable sources at the moment you add it - no if's, and's or but's. Accusing people of racism or specific bias will not go over well ... do NOT add information unless you can source it at the moment you put it in ( talk→   BWilkins   ←track ) 17:37, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Apology accepted - I think we can move on. I dont want to have that issue de-rail a discussion about how to get more sourced content into to the article. Active Banana   ( bananaphone  18:08, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you - Let's move on. I was frustrated because I was building on a page that i didn't create, however I was adding citations to support the data. That was what was requested by Wikipedia, to add citations.
 * If you want the version from before I removed the unsourced content, I can put that in your sandbox page as a starting point, or it is available for viewing as well. (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Pin-Ups&oldid=381113420) Active Banana   ( bananaphone  18:47, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks--Please check the sandbox.I edited and cited. Please check information as I have meticulously researched. Comments would be much appreciated. God bless.
 * Do you just want comments or can I edit directly? Active Banana   ( bananaphone  19:21, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Go Ahead - Please edit. Thank you!

Made Some Comments -- It is looking much better than previously. Good work. I probably wont be able to respond any more for a while. Active Banana   ( bananaphone  20:21, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

THANK YOU - Will upload. let's just tweak in the coming days.

sourced to Phil Star

 * telebisyon.net/balita/PinUp-Girls-Power/artikulo/7099/ This is from the Philippine Star--is this good?

Can you find the original article in the Star? Otherwise I am hesitant to use it. Do we know that Telebisyon has reprinted the article exactly as the Star had published it WP:V? If so do we know that Telebisyon has the right to host that copyright material (see WP:ELNEVER)?

Active Banana   ( bananaphone  20:26, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

REPLY -- Found the original: http://www.philstar.com/youngstar/ysarticle.aspx?articleId=158588&publicationSubCategoryId=84