User talk:Dougie WII/Archives/Archive 2

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Articles for deletion/St Aloysius College, Adelaide
Gee, I hate non-arguements such as WP:OUTCOMES says we should keep it - if everyone relied on WP:OUTCOMES then we would never use AfD at all... why can't people show backbone and actually decide individual articles on individual subject merit??

it's my pet peeve I guess!Garrie 03:35, 20 November 2007 (UTC)


 * well at least the AfD nomination drew some attention to the article and it was vastly improved, although it is still very stubby. -- Dougie WII (talk) 04:11, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Diffs
Please provide diffs on the SSP case you filed. Thanks. — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 16:51, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Shakatapuram
Hi,

I noticed that you have supported this article's nom for delete. I have cleaned up the article now. Can you please have a look and review it to see if the article looks in a good shape to keep? Thanks -- ¿Amar៛ Talk to me / My edits 06:55, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Natasha Marley
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Proposed deletion of Sepultura's 11th Studio Album
Why? All of the information on that page can be found in a number of sources, such as the band's official website, interviews w/ the band in magazines such as Revolver and Terrorizer, and their Myspace. I think that nominating it for deletion was a stupid choice, but I'll try my best to make sure that the article stays. How can we improve it if there isn't even an article to improve? Dark Executioner (talk) 17:34, 29 November 2007 (UTC)Dark Executioner

Hey, this isn't really about you, but i was wondering where you get all those little fact squares on your page, like you speak english, and stuff? maybe you could help me out, HeseGrande (talk) 02:16, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Moïse Katumbi Chapwe
I'd like to let you know that I am working on this article. I don't think it is a speedy delete candidate because the man is a provincial governor in the DR Congo. He would be just as notable as the Governor of Pennsylvania or other state. Please let me work on this. I think that a person is notable because he is a governor.Congolese (talk) 04:23, 10 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes I agree, I took it off myself -- Dougie WII (talk) 16:38, 10 December 2007 (UTC)


 * See how dumb I am? You did and I didn't even know about it! Congolese (talk) 02:37, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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Afd - Software compatibility
Dougie WII

First - sorry I edited your user page - not your talk page. I've (I will have ...) gone back and fixed that now.

I believe strongly that software compatibility is an issue which should be discussed, and I also think that there should be an article about it in Wikipedia. Many systems fail or do not work correctly or appropriately because of compatibility issues. I note your comments and I am trying to improve the article. So far I appear to be the only one who has attempted to do this.

I take the point that "finger pointing" at particular software components which are known to be incompatible may be controversial, though that in itself is not a justification for avoiding inclusion. However a case may be made for putting such information outside Wikipedia if it is likely to cause problems.

Rather than simply invoke a set of rules which will remove such articles in a short period of time, have you thought of actually editing the article and making a postive contribution yourself? I am happy to work with others to improve this and other articles, but I really don't want to get in a situation where any new articles I create are immediately flagged for deletion because they are not fully fledged or complete with a full set of citations. I have doubts about the verifiability policy as well - but I don't suppose I'm allowed to disagree with that. Verifiability which is only based on previously written third party sources is OK, but firstly it discourages new work, and secondly it may in fact be subject to errors, as often there are errors in reference works which are propagated by repetition. Sometimes the only way to check veracity is to go back to the original source, and I can see situations in the future where even this may be difficult, as sources may be forged or altered, or may themselves contain errors. An example would be where a first performance of a musical work is referred to in the incorrect year. Primary source material would be a programme from the concert, but it is always possible that due to a printing error the year on the original programme is incorrect. Unlikely, but possible.

I have edited the article, and will continue to do so, and I am trying to avoid having it deleted. David Martland (talk) 07:42, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

>>I feel that an article under that title is hopelessly broad and could never be a good

>>encyclopedia article.

Could you suggest a better title then, or are you simply against the topic on principle? David Martland (talk) 10:29, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Schools
I will just add school websites to their name on the main list and a reference to their history page on the web. Thanks for your help!

Sunkistsbr (talk) 19:32, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of AXIA
Hi, I am curious to know what I can do to prevent the deletion of AXIA. All marketing material has been removed and external sources have been included. Thanks for your help. JonathanWilbur 22:58, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

AMNH tour
We need to get a preliminary head-count for the AMNH tour happening before the meet-up. If you think you would like to go, please sign up at Meetup/NYC. Thanks! ScienceApologist (talk) 02:58, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

AutoWikiBrowser
Hi,

I have approved you for AutoWikiBrowser. You can download it from here. Good luck!  jj137  ♠ 22:59, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Rainhut Deletion
I'm new to this wiki stuff. How do you add a new item? Anyway, I've researched this. According to Wikipedia itself, the concept of "notable" is distinct from "fame", "importance", or "popularity". I have no doubt that this book will achieve those, but it's the actual information presented in the book that is notable to wikipedia users.--RainhutFan (talk) 09:46, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Information Generation 3
Dear Dougie Wll,

I'll write to you on 7 Jan about the deletion of this article.

Regards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrb17a (talk • contribs) 03:52, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Lula's Chocolates Speedy Deletion
Hi, I had a question about the Lula's Chocolates article that was deleted. It stated that it was being deleted because of copywrite violations, and I understand how to change them, though I also have permission for use of the verbage in the article. This is my first article so my apologies for it not being quite right. Please let me know what needs to be done to fix it. Thank you in advance. --Bigenano (talk) 23:45, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for all the tips. Much appreciated! --Bigenano (talk) 18:56, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Faxon Montessori
I have reopened this AfD - since you started down this road the process should be completed particularly since there is no consensus. TerriersFan (talk) 23:25, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I have now suggested a way forward on this page. TerriersFan (talk) 23:49, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Re:Speedy Deletion of Paulinho Mocidade
Look, Dougie WII, I have already told to another administrator that I only translate articles from Portuguese that DO NOT have a request for speedy deletion. You can do whatever you want with the site, but can you explain to me why in Portuguese they do not contain a request for speedy deletio? It makes doubt in whether I can or not translate an article. Please respond on my talk page. Regards --  Idontknow610  (WANNA TALK??) 17:35, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I will now be careful about choosing to translate articles.--  Idontknow610  (WANNA TALK??)  —Preceding comment was added at 18:55, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice.--  Idontknow610  (WANNA TALK??) 18:17, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Vote for a post-meetup restaurant
I'm charged with making the reservations for us, so let's make it official. We'll do this via voting and everyone including anonymous voters, sockpuppets, and canvassed supporters is enfranchised. Voting irregularities and election fraud are encouraged as that would be really amusing in this instance. Please vote for whichever restaurant you would like to eat at given the information provided above and your own personal prejudices at Meetup/NYC. The prevailing restaurant will be called first for the reservation. If a reservation cannot be obtained at the winning restaurant, the runner-up restaurant will be called thus making this entire process pointless. Voting ends 24 hours after this timestamp (because I said so). ScienceApologist (talk) 17:19, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

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Bundling of AfDs
Hi there, I came across another article by new editor Rajankila to add to the four that you AfD's. As there are so many, I've bundled tham all together here which I hope will improve discussion. I've also left a note on his/her talk page to suggest working differently with these articles! Hope you don't mind me tinkering with your nominations like this, but it seemed more efficient to do it this way. Kim Dent-Brown  (Talk)  10:47, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Martin Lukes: who moved my blackberry
Blatant advertising? what counts as blatant advertising? and how could i have been any less factual?

here is what I wrote: Martin Lukes: Who Moved My BlackBerry is a book written in teh (sic) syle of an epistolary novel by Financial Times journalist Lucy Kellaway detailing the exploits of Martin Lukes a fictional character who has "written" a column on business leadership in the FT between 1999 and 2007.

What gives?ElectricRay (talk) 13:23, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Who was Chuck Wilson?
I missed the AfD and article. Who was he? KellyAna (talk) 22:13, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
 * He was apparently a friend of Whitney's who was seen only once at the SeaScape, I guess Whitney was trying to set Theresa up with him to get her mind off Ethan. Obviously, that didn't work. -- Dougie WII (talk) 22:15, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Prudence Standish
I'm nominating that article for deletion. Articles like that are why the soap project gets looked down upon. She's not notable enough for an article. You should also remove her from the template. IrishLass (talk) 20:26, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I think she's notable, but admittedly a very borderline case. I removed her from the template but will continue to try to improve the article if possible. -- Dougie WII (talk) 23:37, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Jeremy Shum and CMNScoop article
Hi Doug,

Are you from the USA? I'm from Australia, and I don't mind you deleting CMNScoop, but it's featured some pretty big Christian acts and is quite big in Australia, but I'm a big fan of it. I don't think it's been around as long as Hillsong or Planetshakers, but they've interviewed the likes of Bishop Frazier and Bethany Hamilton if you know who they are (they are from America).

Anyway nice to meet you

No1jemmfans (talk) 22:28, 31 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Your articles Jeremy Shum (Radio Presenter) and Christian Music News Scoop have not yet been deleted they have just been nominated. If you can find reliable sources to assert their notability to add to the articles, they won't be deleted. -- Dougie WII (talk) 22:39, 31 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry don't get what you mean lol?? What does notability and that other world mean? I think the show is awesome yep search on Google No1jemmfans (talk) 22:48, 31 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Click the links. You basically need to cite newspaper articles or things like that to show that they are notable. YouTube, MySpace, etc. links are enough to establish that.-- Dougie WII (talk) 22:52, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

speedy deletion
please see Talk:Deutsche Tolkien Gesellschaft. dab (𒁳) 12:23, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Glass forming
I was wondering if the article Glass forming should not be deleted as well, or be a disambiguation page only. It certainly could be expanded, but the content could as well be moved to existing articles with the template referring to it. What do you think?--Afluegel (talk) 05:13, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * As it is, it should probably be deleted. It looks like it's already discussed under Glass production. -- Dougie WII (talk) 21:26, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, I will put a deletion template on the page.--Afluegel (talk) 08:54, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

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Aftershock: Earthquake in New York
Thanks for the heads-up. I moved the rewrite to the talk space. --Anticipation of a New Lover's Arrival, The 01:54, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Pretty picture
Hey, yeah, I can see that, I just wish there was another one to put up that she wasn't talking. I'll look again. --Alexisfan07 26 February 2008 —Preceding comment was added at 03:59, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion of Image:Ivy Winthrop-Crane.jpg
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Titles
You don't change others' talk discussion titles. Don't do that again. That title is linked elsewhere and if you change it, it won't link anymore. KellyAna (talk) 17:39, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It is linked to the title I changed it to automatically, not the one you put in. -- Dougie WII (talk) 17:41, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No, you linked it to the former discussion. I fixed that link and started a whole new discussion.  You're violating policy by changing a title as well as not bothering to start a discussion in the first place.  Your continued changing of titles is violating policy and unlinking the discussion from the page move request page.  You admittedly don't even know how to do this and I was trying to help by fixing it.  You're the one vandalizing the page by changing my titles.  KellyAna (talk) 17:49, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Final warning. Changing another users title is vandalism. Your continued behavior is vandalism and will not be tolerated.  You will be reported.  Do you want to discuss the move or not?  I'm willing to discuss it and have even tried to help by creating the discussion.  Stop changing MY TITLE that I CREATED.  Your violating policy with this continued behavior. KellyAna (talk) 17:56, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * If you want a non-standard subtitle in the talk page, fine I don't care, I care much more about the incorrect title you insist upon the namespace article than the subtitle on a talk page. -- Dougie WII (talk) 17:58, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You can't seem to understand. It's not an incorrect title.  We are discussing a move.  It's not even non-standard (don't know where you even get that).  There's no requirement of what it says, it just has to link to a discussion, which I did.  You want this move, you should allow for discussion and have a link to it.  KellyAna (talk) 18:01, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You must either not have read my post to your page or simply be unable to comprehend English since Requested_moves says that Requested moves should be the standard title put in by the template for such discussions. At first I put it "Surname" as an alternative only since a discussion had already begun, but then you went in and created a whole new section under a nonstandard title. -- Dougie WII (talk) 18:05, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Rather than whining and making personal attacks, I fixed the page by adding the information YOU should have included in the first place. Stop making personal attacks when someone is trying to help you.  I don't even agree with the move but I did more than you did./  KellyAna (talk) 18:08, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you -- Dougie WII (talk) 18:10, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Duplicate images uploaded
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Mandy (song) article
Hey. My last change to the article isn't vandalism and the additions ain't promotional materials as it doesn't fall under any of the 4 listed cats. (propaganda, opinion, self promo and advert).

Also, the article is about a song that Westlife has recorded thus, it is appropriate to include a single info box and details of the release on that page.

I urge you to be more cautious in your judgement and revert the article back to its previous edit. --Longyuano (talk) 02:46, 12 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Your additions overpowered the main and most important parts of the article in an apparent attempt at of advertising/promotion. Westlife's version of Mandy deserves no more than the footnote it already has, and that's not just my opinion, but the consensus of those who edited that page. I suggest that you use more judgment in altering articles in such a way to showcase that copycat band over original artists. -- Dougie WII (talk) 02:54, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Complex abuse problems are different than simple vandalism
I am not saying that the user you have a problem with is in the right, and should be allowed to continue (I am also not saying the opposite, and should be blocked. I am making no statement on the matter at hand). However, AIV is not the correct venue for any reports of complex abuse problems more complicated than simple vandalism (i.e. inserting "is a homo" after a name, page blanking, stuff like that). Those sorts of problems need to be reported to The incidents notice board where you can make a detailed report, and other admins can examine, investigate and discuss the problem. Again, you may or may not have a valid concern, but AIV is just not specifically equipped to deal with your problem. Try WP:ANI instead. --Jayron32. talk . contribs 03:13, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the guidance! -- Dougie WII (talk) 03:46, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

List of PlayStation Portable Infrastructure games
I've already declined speedy on the List of PlayStation Portable Infrastructure games once. It seems to be a list of PSP games, which is not "nonsense". Is there a reason you feel it should be speedied instead of bringing it to AfD? -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 01:38, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't notice it was already denied speedy, but it still looks like gibberish to me. Of course I'm not a PSP gamer. -- Dougie WII (talk) 02:01, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

New policy proposal that may be of interest
I'm tapping this message out to you because you were involved at the AfDs of Eve Carson or Lauren Burk. Following both of these heated debates, a new proposal has been made for a guideline to aid these contentious debates, which can be found at WP:N/CA. There is a page for comments at Wikipedia talk:Notability (criminal acts)/Opinions should you wish to make a comment. Thanks for your time, and apologies if this was not of interest! Fritzpoll (talk) 15:44, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Passions peer review
You are very welcome for the peer review on Passions - I would be glad to take another look at the article when you have finished the latest round of expansion, just let me know when you want me to look at it again, Ruhrfisch ><> &deg; &deg; 22:16, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Your warning
Warnings based on vindictiveness and spite are harassment. Do not continue such behaviour or you will be reported. I removed misleading content based on grandstanding by you to "make a case" for a name. It is misleading and doesn't belong in the article. That is NOT vandalism, it's content dispute and belongs on the talk page. Issuing false vandal warnings, again, is harassment. Such behaviour will be reported if it continues. KellyAna (talk) 22:03, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You're being reported for harrassment. A content dispute is not vandalism and your warnings are based on personal feelings, not fact.  I'm reporting you to an admin. KellyAna (talk) 22:09, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Three reverts
Please read WP:3RR and make sure that you don't violate it on Theresa Lopez-Fitzgerald.  Corvus cornix talk  22:09, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, I just want to say that I went through all the proper channels via Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard to get this approved as a reliable source yet KellyAna repeatedly reverted it even after the decision that it was allowed and reliable was made. -- Dougie WII (talk) 22:36, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Try dispute resolution.  Corvus cornix  talk  22:55, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

SOD Images
Anything uploaded from SOD is not allowable. SOD buys their pictures from JPI and anything they own, they own, including "screen shots" which aren't really screen shots. JPI is the official soap photog and uploading pictures from there is a violation of Wiki policy. I've advised Elonka of this and will allow her to weigh in but if it's on SOD, they've paid for it and it's not free. KellyAna (talk) 02:09, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Free and fair use are not the same thing. The image is not free, but it is usable under the fair use doctrine of U.S. copyright law in part of a review and/or critical commentary on the subject. -- Dougie WII (talk) 02:10, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Do you even LOOK?
Or do you just automatically revert anything I do? An IP cannot do what that IP did, only an admin can close any RfC or AfD. It was v vandalism and I reverted it without flat out calling it that. My gods, I did do anything other than correct issues created by an IP acting as an admin which is not allowed. Seriously, I didn't do anything wrong and your revert of my removal of vandalism (an IP closing an argument and pretending to be an admin) was wrong. KellyAna (talk) 22:51, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I left your reversion of the discussion closure, but you also had removed an addition to the RfC section which an IP can do. -- Dougie WII (talk) 22:52, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No, you reverted what I did, it's in the edit history. You automatically revert anything I do even if it's within soap guidelines.  Day to day summaries with really bad grammar aren't allowed but you reverted that to.  Let the article look like crap. You win, I don't care if it gets deleted because it's in universe and just a big plot summary.  At this point, I hope it does get deleted for just those reasons.KellyAna (talk) 22:59, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I reverted it and then replaced your removal of the closure, there are two edits because that was the easiest way to do it. If you look at the diff you'll see that. -- Dougie WII (talk) 23:01, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * If that was your intention, you had no business leaving the "revert edit by KellyAna" indicating what I did was wrong in your opinion. YOu didn't even clarify your revert or remove the edit summary.  My removal of the information was not revert worthy but you still reverted me.  That's not right. KellyAna (talk) 23:09, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Whatever... I hit "rollback" not vandalism, so I don't think that carries any negative connotation or implication of bad faith. -- Dougie WII (talk) 23:13, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It's says REVERT that always implies bad faith edits. How do you not know that.  Doesn't matter, I've taken TLF off my watchlist, ruin it to your hearts content and hope it doesn't get nominated for deletion for it's in universe content and day to day summaries.  And whatever "rollback" is on Wikipedia, all it means to me is what Wal-Mart does with prices and puts a big annoying yellow face on.  KellyAna (talk) 23:31, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Grow up
Removing disputed content isn't vandalism and your "warning" me about it is harassment. Should I report you. The image and your content shouldn't be there. You are again grandstanding. Stop warning me or I will report you for harassment. KellyAna (talk) 02:49, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I haven't had any problem with any other editor in all my time here, but it seems like you have a problem with almost everyone so it's not hard to figure out where the problem lies. Information like what I added was absolutely true and verifiable and there was no reason for you to remove it wholesale just to prevent evidence against your assertions from being revealed. -- Dougie WII (talk) 02:52, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Evidence? You don't even realize you are turning the article into your own personal platform.  You know what, I think maybe it's time to nominate the article for deletion. You know you it wouldn't pass, right?  Your warnings are childish and silly and immature.  Removing content that's disputed isn't vandalism and you warning me is immature.  Really, you need to grow up and make a better argument.  KellyAna (talk) 02:59, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * How can a screenshot from the program be disputed? -- Dougie WII (talk) 03:00, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Civility
Enough. Both you and KellyAna are to stop the yelling, immediately. Please review WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA. One more rude comment, from either of you, and it's a block. --Elonka 03:21, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I understand where you're coming from, but please understand I've been as civil as I can be with this editor, but she simply doesn't stop her own attacks, reversions, flouting decisions from appropriate WP authorities, etc. Sometimes I'm just at a loss at how to handle her. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. -- Dougie WII (talk) 03:37, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I understand the frustration, believe me, but it is never appropriate to respond to incivility with more incivility. Instead, the most effective way to handle things is to document the behavior.  Get a diff of the most egregious comments, and post them  to the editor's talkpage, with a caution and a link to the appropriate Wikipedia policies. These kinds of things have a definite cumulative effect.  Even if you don't get an immediate response, they have longterm benefit (and make things much easier for the admins).


 * Now, any further discussion about the article, please keep on the article talkpage. I would also appreciate if you would review any of your own comments that may have been uncivil, and edit them to make them more presentable. I also have some thoughts on the page move, but let's get things calmed down first. Thanks, Elonka 03:50, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

re: Mandy
I'm not replacing or substituting any text. All I did was merge the two. As far as the consensus goes I see a small discussion on the Talk Page that looks like about 2 people participated in. I responded on the talk page, by the way, let's continue this over there so others can contribute to the discussion if they want. - eo (talk) 16:39, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

WebCanvas
Hi, thanks for warning me deletion of the WebCanvas wikipedia page. I think that this project/initiative WebCanvas has enough significance/notability to be introduced on this great online encyclopedia. The reasons for this are that: this project is inovative in a number of ways, from implementing an Infinite Canvas to allowing anyone to view other people drawing simply through their web browser. This on-line collaborative painting project is also comparable to other projects, such as Zoomquilt, which have their own wikipedia page. Hence is would make a lot of sense for wikipedia to also have a page on this project. I hope that you understand my point of view. Cheers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zpek (talk • contribs) 00:57, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Passions
I can look at it in the next several days - a bit busy at the moment. Ruhrfisch ><> &deg; &deg; 00:34, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, no hurry -- Dougie WII (talk) 00:58, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * WHere do you want me to make the comments - in the (closed) peer review or on the article talk page? Ruhrfisch ><> &deg; &deg; 20:22, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Talk page is good. Thanks -- Dougie WII (talk) 20:24, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Templated Messages
Its is considered extremely bad form to use templated messages communicate with established editors. I would very much appreciate it if you reviewed the above link. When you do NPP you really should check the contribution history of the editor creating the article. Reqests to speedy articles written by established and clueful editors are invariably going to be poor decisions. Even if an admin isn't paying attention and deletes the thing the aticle will be restored on request and much drama may ensue. This isn't the way we want to treat the editors who do the most important thing of all - creating decent new content....

If you are wondering what I'm referring to, its the templated message you left for user Chubbles and the tag you added to Chick Wilson. You added a tag to the article when it was in this state. The article was riddled with blue tags which clearly indicated that the subject was connected to a lot of significant jazz players and the article also had a reference. Unsurprisingly the CSD tag didn't stick. A7 doesn't mean that every article that doesn't say that "X is notable because of Y" gets deleted. Its a method of getting rid of cruft and no article with as many blue links and a reference is cruft. Please take more care in future. Thank you. Spartaz Humbug! 06:40, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It wasn't a template message, it was a deletion tag and it was completely appropriate since, no matter how many blue links were in the article, didn't assert notability for the subject himself. Notability is not inherited from other people. -- Dougie WII (talk) 19:22, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The message you left on Chubbles userpage was a template from TW - you surely aren't suggesting that you actually wrote that are you? You do know that tw has a function to automatically leave messages on user's pages? You shouldn't do it for regular users. Write them something personal. Of course notability isn't inherited but any reasonable source is enough of an assertion of notability to preclude CSD. Spartaz Humbug! 21:32, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes I know TW leaves a courtesy message to notify the person of the tagging. It is not a warning template and is not even required by WP rules as it's just a courtesy. -- Dougie WII (talk) 00:10, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Perfect
This was an excellent way to handle things. Nice job! :) --Elonka 21:54, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks -- Dougie WII (talk) 00:11, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Rm994
Most likely the user you apologized to won't be reading your comment as you posted it in the mainspace rather than on his user talkpgae. You should probably request a speedy deletion for that, and repost at User talk:Rm994.Ani Mate 22:30, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Never mind. I went ahead and moved it for you and requested the speedy deletion. Ani Mate 22:50, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up, I don't know how I did that. -- Dougie WII (talk) 23:57, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I´m not adding promotional material
Hi Dougie WII,

sorry for the inconvenience, but my article (MacFamilyTree) got speedy deleted because of promotional content. I´m not trying to promote any software. Currently, I´m working with genealogy software on Mac OS X and I wanted to write some articles, to the software already mentioned in the genealogy software article.

I´m keeping the text short and just add a small infobox, so there are no dead links from the genealogy software article. Will that suffice?

Keep up the good work. Kind regards, Phantomschmerz (Stefan) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Phantomschmerz (talk • contribs) 12:20, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Given the other similar articles, yes that appears to be acceptable. -- Dougie WII (talk) 13:03, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

CSD tagging
Your CSD tagging of pages without consulting the editor who has worked on the articles for some time is frustrating. I know as a fact Deep Freeze had 3rd party sources. I request that you stop Afding and Tagging everything in your path.   CWii ( Talk  14:32, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry if it disturbs you, but I will continue to vigilantly tag inappropriate articles with an appropriate CSD tag. -- Dougie WII (talk) 21:58, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

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News
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Hello
My name is M42380. I was wondering about user: kellyana, my cousin has had issues with that user. --M42380 (talk) 01:18, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * KellyAna was permanently banned, see Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/User:KellyAna(2nd),User:Irishlass0128(2nd). -- Dougie WII (talk) 01:47, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
 * where you thinking that she was me? I lived in a small town in Washington. --M42380 (talk) 01:23, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Interesting! ---DJS24 18:35, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * what interesting? --M42380 (talk) 00:19, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

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WHAT Wikis Take Manhattan is a scavenger hunt and free content photography contest aimed at illustrating Wikipedia and StreetsWiki articles covering sites and street features in Manhattan and across the five boroughs of New York City. The event is based on last year's Wikipedia Takes Manhattan, and has evolved to include StreetsWiki this year as well.

LAST YEAR'S EVENT


 * Wikipedia Takes Manhattan/Spring 2008 (a description of the results, and the uploading party)
 * Commons:Wikipedia Takes Manhattan/Gallery (our cool gallery)

WINNINGS? Prizes include a dinner for three with Wikipedia creator Jimmy Wales at Pure Food & Wine, gift certificates to Bicycle Habitiat and the LimeWire Store, and more!

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WHO All Wikipedians and non-Wikipedians are invited to participate in team of up to three (no special knowledge is required at all, just a digital camera and a love of the city). Bring a friend (or two)!

REGISTER The proper place to register your team is here. It's also perfectly possible to register on the day of when you get there, but it will be slightly easier for us if you register beforehand.

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 * Wikis Take Manhattan page at The Open Planning Project


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Thanks
Hey, thanks for coming to my defense (it's actually part of a greater conflict), and thanks for taking your turn reverting that IP's latest mass-DirecTV purge. &mdash; TAnthonyTalk 16:38, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Dougie, this was not helpful. Please, it is never appropriate to respond to incivility with incivility.  All that such comments do, is to make you look bad.  See also WP:BAIT. --Elonka 18:42, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry Elonka, but sometimes you just have to call a spade a spade. Luckily, that doesn't happen very often here for me, it does take a lot to make my blood boil. -- Dougie WII (talk) 13:35, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I understand your feelings, and I sympathize. But participants on Wikipedia are expected to adopt a certain amount of decorum.  That's why we have policies such as Civility and No personal attacks.  Higher status is also perceived of users who are able to see a dispute and act to de-escalate it, rather than escalate it.  Your comment, though you may have felt justified in making it, served absolutely no purpose of de-escalation.  The only possible thing it could do was to escalate the dispute.  So please, in the future, try to find other ways of expressing your concerns.  Point someone at WP:NPA, or contact an administrator.  See also Dealing with disruptive editors.  But please, don't just engage in name-calling, otherwise you may find yourself suffering the same consequences as the person that you're attacking.  :/  When a new administrator comes to a dispute, they often don't look into the history to see the background, and they really don't care "who started it".  They care about what they see, at the time that they're looking.  And if they see two editors who are just being equally rude, many administrators will simply block both editors. So please, keep this in mind going forward?  You're a good editor in many ways, and I'd like to see you stick around.  :) --Elonka 16:29, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

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Thank you
For correcting the mistake to Golden Eagle and for letting me know about the error. :) --Faradayplank (talk) 23:23, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem! -- Dougie WII (talk) 07:26, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * And thank you again for reverting vandalism to my talk page :) --Faradayplank (talk) 07:30, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

List of birds
Please do not alphabetise taxonomic lists; they are listed so that related groups follow each other in the list - see the cladogram in the article jimfbleak (talk) 16:05, 19 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I think messages crossed, hope above clarifies jimfbleak (talk) 16:06, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * This makes no sense to me. It is impossible to show relationships between groups of animals clearly in a simple flat list. Why is one group ahead of another? Is there some Wikipedia policy regarding this? -- Dougie WII (talk) 16:09, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

About the article bison
I sorry, i have do not seem the animal bison too important to have it page only as Bison, in the spanish wikipedia al least the 99% of the ambiguos names haves a disamiguation page. Excuse for my band english Marioxcc (talk) 00:19, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. I guess different language Wikipedias have different standards. -- Dougie WII (talk) 20:50, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

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Temazepam
Stop vandalizing the Temazepam page by insertion of spam, without consensus.

Stop filing false vandalism reports

Stop to falsely accuse of page blanking.

This is the last warning. 70.137.147.62 (talk) 09:08, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

The image is not spam. That has already been made clear. Apparently you do not know how wikipedia works. You just making your own determinations and reverting  doesn't build a consensus. -- Dougie WII (talk) 18:41, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

It is spam. Nothing has been made clear. You have inserted it, without discussing. Removing it is not vandalism. You do not participate in further discussion. 70.137.147.62 (talk) 18:57, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Procedure
WP:BRD Bold, revert, discuss: You make a bold insert. It gets reverted. You discuss. NOT: You revert again, and get reverted again. Then you wrongly yell 3RR and IP vandalism and have me blocked and the article locked. Not that. I want an apology for this rude and idiotic behavior. And you also don't play idiot police and rat me for block evasion. And you don't sell reversal of your uninvited and undiscussed edit as page blanking. Otherwise you have to be taught manners. 70.137.142.217 (talk) 05:45, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

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On the omnivore page...
In regards to this, I'd like to direct you to this. 207.255.35.246 (talk) 02:30, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I think that WP page is wrong, all the scientific articles I've read including the ones cited here list canines as carnivores, even though they do tend to eat more plant matter than obligate carnivores such as cats. If you want to discuss this further, please start a new section in the article's talk page. Thanks. -- Dougie WII (talk) 04:21, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

File:Crayola.jpg listed for deletion
An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, File:Crayola.jpg, has been listed at Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. ww2censor (talk) 00:55, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi and thanks for the kind note on this Ifd; I far prefer resolving these issues one-to-one (or at least disagreeing one-to-one) first. In explanation of my decision to delete this file:

Resulting from this the image is not public domain (so we must meet the criteria), falls into one of the examples of "unacceptable use" and no-one has sufficiently refuted this and lastly the arguments as to it significantly increasing reader's understanding fell short of those saying that it did not. The usual requirements for meeting NFCC#8 that I have seen applied are either that the article is about the whole image (in this case an article about the stamp) or that the article discusses the particulars of the image in such a way that reader's understanding is much decreased by not being able to see the image itself; simple illustration of a thing being talked about is usually insufficient. I'm sorry but aftre reviewing this, I see things the same way as when I closed it and will understand if you want to take this to DrV. - Peripitus (Talk) 06:54, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The nomination was on the basis that the image did not significantly increase reader's understanding (NFCC#8) and also that it fell into one of the "unacceptable use" categories under the non-free content interpretation guideline
 * WebHamster responded that the image was used in a section about the stamp and claimed that the in-context it met the guidelines, though they did not state how it met the significance requirement nor why an image that was covered by "unacceptable use" was to be allowed.
 * Stifle stated that it was PD as the object depicted was sufficiently old. I note here that the image page did NOT claim that it was public domain.
 * Quadell refuted that it was PD and re-iterated that the image failed NFCC#8
 * Howcheng and the nominator chimed in that in their opinion it was not a PD image
 * Yourself stated largely that the use of the image was to illustrate the stamp, though without addressing the "unacceptable use" problem nor showing how the image significantly increases reader's understanding.

RE: Crayon colors/Revert

 * They are patently NOT the colors that appear in a box of crayons. If you look at an actual Crayola crayon against the display on the web, as I have, you will notice that many of the colors on the website (violet being the most atrocious example0 are too pastel.  You ask for a source; I could cite the box of crayons, and the myriad of Crayola crayon images, on and off the Crayola website.  For reference, I spent a long time staring at crayons to attempt to discern their hex triplets, and I do not appreciate it being done in a single stroke.  Thank you for your time,  Purplebackpack89 (talk) 00:28, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Your values are still there in the history. I'll try to get some other opinions on how these colors should be determined. Perhaps, it might be best just to not have this chart of colors since it really is impossible to accurately show what a crayon color mark is in the RGB space. -- Dougie WII (talk) 00:35, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That's probably best. On many color pages, there's debate about what the color REALLY is.  Purplebackpack89 (talk) 00:43, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

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I agree with Laser Brain's comments here. I'm not much for researching companies, so I can't help with that, but if you need a copyeditor before re-submitting it (once you've fleshed it out), let me know. Best of luck! Steve Smith (talk) (formerly Sarcasticidealist) 17:37, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

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Biggest box is 50, right? Purplebackpack89 (talk) 02:18, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:The Musical in NYC Oct 22
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Lebanese nationality law
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Lebanese passport
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Wikipedia Day Celebration and Mini-Conference in NYC Saturday Feb 23
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Nomination of List of papabili in the 2013 papal conclave for deletion
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Wikimedia NYC Meetup- "Greenwich Village In The 60s" Editathon! Saturday November 2
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Commiserations
over the orchids, Doug! Seems to have missed the point that the picture retains enough EV at every level to be fronting up the article on Orchidaceae. Amandajm (talk) 10:23, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

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New deal for page patrollers
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Under the new rule, you may find that you are temporarily unable to mark new pages as reviewed. However, this is nothing to worry about - most current experienced patrollers are being accorded the the new right without the need to apply, and if you have significant previous experience of patrolling new pages, we strongly encourage you to apply for the new right as soon as possible - we need all the help we can get, and we are now providing a dynamic, supportive environment for your work.

Find out more about this exiting new user right now at New Page Reviewers and be sure to read the new tutorial before applying. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:28, 13 November 2016 (UTC)