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Speedy deletion nomination of Thos. Kent Miller


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Your submission at Articles for creation: Thomas Kent Miller (November 3)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Thomas Kent Miller (November 23)
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Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Thomas Kent Miller concern
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Your draft article, Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Thomas Kent Miller


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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. JMHamo (talk) 21:19, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Draft:Thomas Kent Miller (June 19)
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February 2017
Hello, I'm Oshwah. I noticed that in this edit to Thomas Kent Miller, you removed content without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   17:43, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

May 2018
Hello, I'm Doniago. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to The War of the Worlds (1953 film) seemed less than neutral and has been removed. If you think this was a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. ''There also seems to be some original research here. I would recommend including independent sources to back up the claims made in the section you added.'' DonIago (talk) 05:13, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello Doniago - I went to your talk page but I see no obvious way to leave you a message. Thus I'm hoping this will get to you. I added the "Title Sequence" section to "The War of the Worlds (1953 film)" because it is a vital yet much overlooked aspect of the movie. You say that it "seems less than neutral" to you, but I don't understand. How can a description of the title sequence be anything but neutral? I merely describe the colors and "swipes and dissolves" along with mentioning that it is accompanied by a martial score, all of which "telegraphs" what to expect tonally even before the movie proper begins. These are simply facts. I'm not sure what you mean by "original research here." The title sequence is what it is; anybody who watches the film will see exactly what I've described; it would seem to me that there need not be any independent sources. In fact, I've researched and studied this movie literally since it was released in 1953; I have hundreds of articles and books and blogs all about "The War of the Worlds (1953 film)" and, trust me, if any of them had commented about the title sequence in any way, I would have noticed. Since none have, I've taken it upon myself to describe the title sequence in neutral terms. This sequence is every bit as important as any other aspect of the film. I cannot change your opinion, obviously, but I would appreciate your thinking about my reasoning above. All Best regards, Doyleelmocollins, May 29, 2018, 11:30 p.m.


 * Thanks for your calm and measured response to my concerns! As I'm sure you've noticed, WP editors can get a bit testy sometimes. :p
 * Your text included descriptive terminology such as "dynamic and martial". To my mind this goes beyond strictly matter-of-fact description and into interpretation, which shouldn't be done without providing a source that's described the sequence as such. Other editors may disagree on that, and you'd be welcome to ask the question at the article's Talk page. Your saying that the sequence telegraphs what to come is definitely you applying your interpretation, IMO.
 * I truly appreciate that you've put such work into analyzing the sequence, but unfortunately Wikipedia editors are not in and of themselves reliable sources. Thank you for reaching out to me about your concerns, and again, I'd encourage you to broach the question at the article's Talk page if you'd like feedback from other editors. It truly is unfortunate if there's no published material regarding this opening sequence, as it does stand out (and likely stood out even more when the film was released!). Happy editing! DonIago (talk) 13:54, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello again, Doniago. A quick query: Would it be acceptable to you if I removed "loaded" adjectives like "dynamic" and such? The word "martial," though, is necessary as it conveys the objective nature of that particular bit of the film score. Thank you. dec
 * I'd have to see the text you have in mind, and would probably still feel that a source is needed to establish the significance of the sequence and back up any assertions that went beyond a literal description of what's shown (similar to a plot summary...but in this case a mere summary wouldn't establish the significance of the sequence). I'd have problems with "martial" as well, since I do think that's a matter of how we're interpreting the music rather than how an international viewer might regard it. Sorry if this isn't what you were hoping to hear. DonIago (talk) 16:27, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

August 2018
Hello again, Doniago and all the other illustrious editors of Wikipedia. Back in May 2018, Doniago deleted a section WAR OF THE WORLDS (1953) that I had included sometime earlier. The section was titled "The Title Sequence" and I argued that it should remain as it was not only unique, but it telegraphed to audiences of that era (who never would have before experienced a Technicolor war film anything like WAR OF THE WORLDS) the tone of the film. I used words like "dynamic and martial," which Doniago argued were not neutral enough. In the end, Doniago invited me to show the text to his colleagues and ask for their opinions. I'm doing just that now, a few months after our discussion. Thank you for helping making Wikipedia a great resource. All best regards. Doyleelmocollins

I couldn't find the exact edited-out text in your historical edit comparison section, so here is the text as well as I can reproduce it:

"The title sequence is one of the finest conceived. Military stenciling flashes repeatedly, hypnotically, in changing colors, fast dissolves, and swipes of various shapes, all against an unchanging black background. Following a montage of scratched footage from both World Wars showing the evolution of weaponry, accompanied by a stirring voice-over call to arms by then prominent voice-actor Paul Frees in his most solemn, adamant voice, the Leith Stevens’ impressive marshal score begins with a crash and flaring horns as “The War of the Worlds” in red military stencil lettering appears in a smash cut, rising in a mere second to fill the screen; then the lettering changes into green followed by a circular iris swipe that reveals yellow stenciling “Based on the novel by H.G. Wells”; another circular swipe reveals the cast names in green, which then flash yellow rapidly then back to green; a horizontal swipe from the left reveals in blue stencil “Screenplay by Barré Lyndon”; followed by a swipe revealing more blue lettering listing technical crew; another vertical swipe from the top with pulsating, flashing purple letters with more crew; another swipe from the top showing in flashing orange and yellow stenciling the composer and associate producer; another swipe with flashing red letters reveal the special effects artists; swipe again this time with flashing red and white letters “Produced by George Pal” right into “Directed by Byron Haskin.”

Your submission at Articles for creation: Thomas Kent Miller (September 25)
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Draft:Thomas Kent Miller concern
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Your draft article, Draft:Thomas Kent Miller


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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Bkissin (talk) 13:01, 3 April 2020 (UTC)