User talk:Dposse/Archive 1

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HI
*waves* --Niteice 20:09, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

Wikified your user page!
I added links in your user page. --G VOLTT 20:48, September 12, 2005 (UTC)

Talk pages
When you add a new topic to a talk page please add it to the bottom so everything stays in chronological order. That makes archiving talk pages much easier. Thanks! Jtrost 21:15, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, and if you click on the + link at the top of tyalk pages it'll automatically do this for you. Jtrost 00:33, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Stubs
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Anguis 01:13, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Whats up?
Hey. I just wanted to say hey, and I like your user page. And I noticed you just watched the most recent episode of 24 so that also intrigued me...hah. wanna help me work on the pages when they need it?


 * Create a user page first, and i'll consider it. Dposse 19:31, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Note
You can read more here or here. I am not the best person to ask about technical image copyright issues. I am sorry. You may want to as here for help. Again, sorry. -- LV (Dark Mark)  20:49, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

That thing
Well, its better than nothing. When he comes back, I'm sure he'll get back on his soapbox...then he'll be ours!

Bwah ha...ha ha.

Image copyrights
It's a very confusing ara, and one I don't 100% understand myself. Put simply, though, any images used on Wikipedia have to be free-use images. So any that are out of copyright and any where the creator of them says it's ok can be used. The second part of that means that if you take a photo or draw an image yourself, then okay it by using a template like gfdl, then it's fine to use it on wikipedia. Images scanned from books, magazines and websites are usually copyrighted, so they can't be used except in special cicumstances. Image use policy has all the details, though, so I hope that will be some help! Grutness...wha?  00:55, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
 * What Grutness said. Ideally, use images you've created yourself, or that have existing GFDL licences.  If it's of unknown status, or if you're going to argue fair use, ask at the page you plan or using it, or enquire on a caes-by-case basis at Wikipedia talk:Fair use.  Hope that helps somewhat.  Alai 18:40, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Babel
WP:Babel is where it's from, but it looks like you have tons of them already.--Zxcvbnm 00:55, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

House picture
About the image cleanup tag you put on House, what is it exactly that you think should be cleaned up about the picture? I was surprised such a template existed! --Someones life 03:26, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * There are you happy now? You whined and got your way. I'm not going to press the issue but I still think you were making a big deal out of nothing. No one else seemed to have a problem with it. It wasn't that bad that it needed a cleanup tag. Sfufan2005 20:56, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Sometimes drastic measures need to be taken in order to incite action. Glad I could help out. I'd been wanting to fix the piture for awhile, but I only just this week received the first season. -Digresser 21:27, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Adult Swim
In order to protect the article Adult Swim, you have to request it. Adding the tag does nothing. Try it out! Nomanee 19:45, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi from CuteGargoyle
Hi Dposse, I love the first paragraph on your user page. I feel the exact same way, 100%. CuteGargoyle 20:49, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

GAB
Thank you for your enthusiasm and your help with the article. I have a few small suggestions on internal links. For one, only wikilink to articles one time in any given article. Usually, you want it to be the first time a subject is mentioned. Secondly, make sure your link goes to the right place (i.e., not a disambiguation page or a page that is not the subject referred to (this happens all the time with people's names.)) For example, you linked 7th Street, which takes you to a disambig page listing two 7th streets, neither of which is in Los Angeles. Furthermore, "7th street" probably wouldn't have been the most informative link, unless it was to an article on the LA street and gave a detailed account of its historical imprtance in the LA produce market, or something to that effect, in which case I would still not link it that way, but rather something like "The 7th Street Produce Market, located on 7th Street in Los Angeles..." to allow a link to the market itself (the item the sentence is actually referring to). But again, I wouldn't link the market unless there was already an article or unless I was definitely sure that there should be one.

On the subject of the boycott article, I am thinking of restructuring the external links and inline citations. It seems pointless to have both, and in such an unorganized fashion as they are. I was thinking of using in-line ref notes to refer to a notes section, and then listing the News articles and press releases under an new "Sources" section, and leaving only Pro/Con type links (like the page that lists local events under the External links section. What d you think? I'm hoping they'll put it on the front page on Monday, so I want it to be good, and I can use all the help I can get.--Rockero 21:04, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I couldn't open it. I think it is generally better to link to website (htmls) than pdfs. Was it a flier? If so, we can download it, convert it to a PNG and upload it as a fair use event poster. Which group was it that had made the document?--Rockero 01:32, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
 * If you have any image editing software, like Adobe photoshop, you should be able to convert it with that. I'll try again to get it, too.--Rockero 01:52, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Hints
On talkpages, it is easier to keep conversations straight if you indent before your response. You can do so by typing a ":" just before your comment. Secondly, it is generally considered a "no-no" to remove peoples' comments from talkpages. Even if they are making impolite comments, unless they are unnecessarily inflammatory, it is important to let people express themselves. Thirdly, be very careful not to engage in personal attacks. Some of the comments you have made could be interpreted as such. And remember, it is always important to assume good faith. Thanks for adding the picture, by the way. I couldn't have done much better, although I may try.--Rockero 06:43, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
 * It is important that discussions on article talkpages be about the content of the article. You are absolutely correct about that. I am not saying you are "the bad guy" in any way. In fact, haven't I thanked you for your help? The reason I asked you to be careful not to make personal attacks is because you can be blocked for them (and I wouldn't want to see that happen) and because there is a large gray area concerning precisely what a "personal attack" is. For example, when you state, "your racist [...] comments", that is tantamount to calling somebody racist. This, regardless of whether or not the statement is true or not, is a comment on the editor, and not the edit. Calling people "Minuteman wanna-bes" falls in the same realm.
 * In my experience, the best thing to do when people make racist or borderline-racist comments (unless, as I mentioned, they are inflammatory) is to attribute them when they are unsigned and let the ignorant and racist people dig their own graves. By allowing them to do so, you take the moral high ground of standing beside free speech. It is important not to retaliate against them and call them names for the same reason (they are the ones that are calling us "illegal"--doesn't that say something in itself?) I know how hard it is to be calm in the face of hostile editors. I have edited some contentious articles myself. However, since I was always polite, ignored the personal attacks, and tried to cultivate debate and reach compromise, I have been able to successfully negotiate disputes and produce some decent articles, if I do say so myself. That's what the Great American Boycott article needs: calm, thoughtful editors who can tell the difference between vandalism and content disputes, and who can work together to resolve issues. I have posted an argument in favor of debate about the terminology and in favor of some variety concerning labeling. Please do not become discouraged by the comments made about you or your edits. We need all the help we can get to create balanced, well-documented, and thoughtful articles. Gracias, --Rockero 22:31, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

GAB
It was absolutely amazing. I'll send you the link to my blog when I write it. 8)--Rockero 04:13, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
 * It occurred to me today as I read through the article that the bit about the ACLU would fit in precisely there, which wuld also allow us to avoid wasting your hard work on the research. I have amended accordingly.--Rockero 23:57, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Great American Boycott Santa Barbara. I'll probably be adding in more photos as I get a chance, or as soon as I figure out how to make thumbnails in html.--Rockero 19:52, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Patrick Kennedy
Sorry for delayed response, had to take my chill pill. What speculation? Fact, when he was asked about resigning he said no (which was in the source that your also deleted). Fact, Pat Morgan, Chairwoman for the RI Republican Party has suggested that he "resign or take a medical leave of absence". Both of these facts were properly cited from the Woonsocket Call, a newspaper in Kennedy's district. Both fact are relevant to this article. Jerry G. Sweeton Jr. 16:13, 6 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Jerry G. Sweeton Jr. 16:32, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Adult Swim section
I am curious to know why a such a valid point raised in the Criticism section was completely deleted with know move to gain community consensus. It did not express a point of view, it merely made an interesting comparison of the amount of anime shown and the amount of comedy shown. I feel that the deletion of this section was unessicary, but I have no desire to start an edit war over the issue. Could you provide a valid reason for removing this section, and perhaps suggest an area where that information could be put to better use? TomStar81 19:56, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
 * In that case you will also have to remove a large slice of commentary for the episode TRANSPARENT on the page Ghost in the Shell: S.A.C. 2nd GIG, which states something vary similar. Please also inform the party that added such comments to the episoe description of this development to see to it that a repeat incident does not occur. Thank you for the explination. TomStar81 02:19, 7 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I do not see any point in argueing with you; For me, if a valid reason can be provided for the elimination of a section, image, graph, and so on I accept it at face value. I do question the wisdom of removing the statement, as I feel that it will sooner or later return, but at the moment I see no reason to get involved in an edit war over something that, for all practical purposes, is trival. I would recommend that you remember to assume good faith when edits like that appear; and if you feel it should be removed then bring it up on the talk page first. As for the other part: continueing to argue with you and flame you like every other wikipedian would only serve to demonstrate that I am sore loser or that I have something to prove. Its one thing to practice power projection on a page by protecting ones additions, its quite another to go to war to keep a those edits in an article. Part of growing up means I take into account the risks and rewards of warring over edits in articles here, and in this case I do not see that the ends as of yet justify the means. TomStar81 18:45, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Keith Olbermann
Young man, you often seem sincere in what you are trying to do, and I was 18 once, but I don't understand why you are trying to cause such problems and interpersonal friction. It is one thing to post your point of view, but personal attacks have no place here. You delete the links to my website (www.keitholbermann.org) with some regularity, which I revert when I notice it, but then as your "alter ego" (at your school computer 205.188.117.9) you post unsigned, insulting comments, and actually deface articles. You have had at least one level 3 warning for that. Why don't you just lay off deleting my site, keitholbermann.org for a while, and stop trying to pick a fight with me in the talk sections? It is not worth your time or my time. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.96.0.124 (talk • contribs)


 * Really, if it is Scientology, just admit it. But you are starting to get really irritating.  You need to stop vandalising the Keith Olbermann page.  Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DoctorMike (talk • contribs)


 * If you look at the Keith Olbermann article, then look at the talk page for same you will see it is the ruling of the wikipedia cabal that the link to KeithOlbermann.org stays. Deleting it is really defying the gods of wikipedia.  I am asking you again to stop doing so. --DoctorMike 11:25, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Da Vinci Code
It is important to keep a cool head, especially when responding to comments against you or your edits. Personal attacks and disruptive comments only escalate a situation; please keep calm and remember that action can be taken against other parties if necessary. Attacking another user back can only satisfy trolls or anger contributors and leads to general bad feeling. Please try to remain civil with your comments. Thanks!  Will  ( E @ )  T  17:24, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: not necessary?
If that is in fact true please cite a source where the writers emphasize the importance of the pronunciation of her name. Jtrost (T | C | #) 01:38, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

QT links on KO page
Hi Dposse, Having all the message boards listed is a hard-won compromise which has been hashed out on the talk page over the last couple days. If you have some really rock-solid reason for deleting those two QT links, can you please tell us on the talk page, so we can at least try to hold the peace a little longer? Thanks. CuteGargoyle 03:15, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Are you also a Japanese Wikipedian?
Hi, I met a wikipedian named "Dposse" in Japanese Wikipedia. She/he is good at feminism and manga. Is she/he you?

Thanks. 古鳥羽護(Kotoba Mamoru 19:17, 27 May 2006 (UTC))

Thanks for your reply. I think you are true Dposse. Your handle sounds cool but I think Japanese people does not know what it means. So, Japanese people won't use this name as handle. That is the reason why I think you are the original one.

So, would you please teach me what your handle means?

By the way, I think Metallica's Black album is best. My favorite song is Enter Sandman. :-)

Thanks. 古鳥羽護 Kotoba Mamoru 16:18, 30 May 2006 (UTC) ("Kotoba Mamoru" means "Word Guardian")

Thanks for your reply. Japanese Dposse promised me to change her/his name. :-) I'm going to translate my page next time.

Thanks. 古鳥羽護　Kotoba Mamoru 12:48, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

House
I thought about nominating it for AfD, but I thought this might cause uproar, so I took it back. I mean, I really think it should be merged, because it could be considered insignificant, and possibly original research. What do you think about condensing and merging?Adambiswanger1 02:50, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok I'll put up the template. Feel free to re-write it (2-5 paragraphs, ideally), and I'll move it in a couple of days, after we give people a chance to vote. Thanks. Adambiswanger1 02:54, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Haha ok, well do as much as you like, and I'll come back later tonight or tomorrow and clean up. I mean I dont' know anything about the show, so I'll just be basing it off of the information already there.  Is that cool? btw what's wrong with Connecticut?  Hartford's nice. Adambiswanger1 02:57, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

house picture.
You said: "I'm a little puzzled by your complaint about that picture. The picture has been on wikipedia since March, and no one has had a problem with it until now. The picture qualifies as fair use because it "illustrates the DVD in question". Isn't that enough? If you check out the House article, there is a section describing the dvd for the first season. The picture is there to show the dvd cover that is talked about in the section. I bet dvd covers are used in other articles about tv shows or movies, so i really don't understand the problem. If it isn't enough that it "illustrates the DVD in question", what can i say to make it so the picture qualifies and is able to be used on wikipedia?"


 * Please see Fair Use Rationale. Every single use of a copyrighted image must be justified.  In this case, we don't need an extensive justification, but we do need a simple one.  Just listing the license is not enough.  --Yamla 01:57, 11 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks, great job! Much appreciated.  --Yamla 03:02, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

ECW IMDb.com Link
How exactly is me adding the Internet Movie Database page on Extreme Championship Wrestling (complete with viewer commentatory/opinions in the message boards at the bottom of the page) exactly redundant!? TMC1982 16 June 2006 (UTC)

The Island
Okay, they just voted 16-1 for me to not be an admin. I'll get something going about the Island. We should, as you said, keep a close watch on it. If things start to get out of hand (give it some time), we should list it for deletion. Good day.- JustPhil 22:15, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Promicin and the ten percent myth
Could you explain your rationale for this edit? I found that comment and link to be very informative last year, and was surprised when I visited the article today and it was gone. I'm replacing it, but if there's a good reason it shouldn't be there, let me know. Jdavidb (talk &bull; contribs) 13:52, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Keith Olbermann
Thanks for pointing out that I added a second reference section to the Keith Olbermann section. Whenever I add a new cite I like to check that I input it correctly and everything works properly.;) Just forgot to remove it this time. Just as an FYI on how footnotes work: Citing sources/example style WP:Footnotes Help:Footnotes --Bobblehead 16:18, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Lostpedia vote
I'm not intending this to be a final vote, just a straw vote, see where people stand. In a "discussion", it's not easy to see what the views of the general populace are. I just want to see where most people with an interest in it, including those that may just be lurking the argument, are standing. Besides, seems the argument has stagnated, with people polarized on their own views. --Reverend Loki 16:45, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Please avoid personal attacks
Please see WP:NPA and WP:Assume good faith, regarding your most recent edit to Talk:Lost Experience. Thanks, PKtm 19:38, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Um, yes: accusing someone of having a "personal grudge" against something, particularly after that person has given solid, rational explanations for his stance on it, is indeed an attack. I've restored the strikethrough. -- PKtm 21:02, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Anyone can deny it with "oh, I didn't mean it that way", but the words speak for themselves. I'd like you to rephrase it, please, to be more constructive.  What did you hope to gain from the phrasing as it stands? Did you expect Jtrost to say, "oh, yes, you're right, I have a personal grudge"?  Of course not.  Hence, it was clearly a personal attack. Please rephrase it, or I will continue to strike through again, and I will report you for an ongoing personal attack from which you refuse to back down. -- PKtm 21:11, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

hey!
I want to get on YIM, but I'm on my parents' computer, and am unable to get on the internet on my computer at the moment. If you can give me a link that allows me to use an online version of YIM, that would be fine. Because I can't find it on http://messenger.yahoo.com. --G VOLTT 19:03, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

2112
Hey! Im not too sure about this. On the one hand side one is undoubtedly a concept but then so fountain of lamneth, but thats on side two of caress, and i've never considered caress a concept album. How bout you? Does the side the concept appears on make it a concept album or not? Tales from Topographic Oceans or Frances the Mute are out and out concept albums, is 2112? concept siute sounds a bit naff but its probably more accurate IMHO. --KaptKos 21:02, 3 August 2006 (UTC)


 * It was released as a single record album in a gatefold sleeve, so you can't say its half a concept as that would require the concept to take half of the playing time, which I haven't checked but doubt it is, therefore the best you can say is one side of the release is a concept. If it was released today it would be like the cd copy of it I gave my nephew last year and he considers it as a bunch of cool related stuff to begin with and then a bunch of (mostly) rockin tunes after that.  Half a concept sounds half assed.  You can't say the first half is a concept album as album implies a whole and you can't have half a whole and call it a whole.  "2112" the suite is a concept, 2112 the album is a bunch of songs some of which constitute a concept.  Like I said about Lamneth - does that make caress a concept album or an album that includes a concept?--KaptKos 10:49, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

To answer your question about the year of release, 2112 came out in 1976. The Canadian LP (the cover of which a friend of mine was gracious enough to show me; in fact, all the Canadian LPs he had were far more lavish than the lyricless, simple carboard sleeves Mercury released in the US) was an elaborate affair that included all of the lyrics (something that even the "remastered CD" doesn't do in the US). It fleshes out the story that Side A tells in song.

Taken by themelsves, the Side Longs, as I call "Fountain", "2112" and "Hemispheres" are best described as song cycles. They tell a connected, coherent story. In this they produce something the Beatles didn't with "Sgt Peppers" (i.e. thematic relationships between the songs, rather than a scaffolding upon which to hang very different songs) and something way, way beyond Yes' mindless dope-babble--though admittedly, it's dope-babble set to beautifully intricate music.

2112's not a very complicated story. In fact, it's wholly derivative of George Orwell's 1984 and Ayn Rand's novella Anthem, except that, in the latter, the good guys win (I think, ;o), it's been 20+ years since I read it).

Guy grows up in theologically totalitarian society (think Iran with HAL 9000s everywhere). Guy finds electric guitar in a cave (!). Guy thinks it will make him darling of priest-rulers. Priest-ruler gets irked, smashes guitar, dismisses guy. Guy warbles his misery (most masterfully done by the Boys) and then offs himself. Just after he does that, Good Guys who escaped Evil Priests return to Earth and overthrow said evil priest-rulers (set to Alex's incendiary solo). That's it in four sentences. By contrast, "The Fountain of Lamneth" is more philosophical and the songs more experimental (especially the rollicking drinking tune "Bacchus Plateau" with some esp. melodic little bass runs by Geddy).

Hemisphere's is one of, if not the, most daring "song cycles" ever created by a rock band. It does nothing less than pose, in the form of epic poetry, the Dionysian/Apollonian struggle within the spirit of man. The struggle from which Nietzsche, among others, derived the foundation of Western philosophy and culture. It is also a diagnosis of the two poles between which our civilization has veered for the last 2500 years; simply put, between science and rationalism (Apollonian) and faith and irrationality (Dionysian). Neil is said to have been influenced by a book whose name I forget, but anyone with any familiarity with Nietzsche's work will instantly recognize his deep influence on this rock album. From being plagirized by Freud (it was he, not the Austrian, who invented modern psychology), misused by Wilhelmine Germany (nearly every German soldier carried two books in his backpack in 1914, the Bible and a copy of Nietzsche's seminal work), to abused and distorted by Nationalism Socialism, to influence a Canadian rock trio is one helluva an achievement for any philosopher.

Unfortunately, Neil Peart was in the throws of admiration of Ayn Rand--the influence can be found in Fly By Night, 2112 and, arguably, A Farewell to Kings. Fortunately, Peart's infaturation with Rand--like my own--didn't last long.*

As to whether it's a "concept" album, if concept album is taken to mean an entire album dominated around a single, or group of, themes, such as the original one, Sgt. Pepper's, then no, 2112 doesn't qualify. The B side songs (my age is showing) have nothing to do with the "2112" story. By the same token, Caress of Steel, and Hemispheres are not concept albums either.

In fact, probably the only concept album Rush has ever done is Power Windows. The 8 songs all deal with the alienations and terrors of modern life. Even "Marathon Man" can arguably said to fit into the same pattern. It shows how one man (successfully) deals with the many and varied pressures of modern "life."


 * Basically, her novels were tedious, badly written, regurgitated misunderstandings of Nietzsche. Her personal experience of the harshness of Soviet regime during and after the October coup which created the USSR created a rigid, bitter, hateful personality focused only upon hatred of communism--not love of democracy. She once denounced realism in art for actually showing life as it was, rather than what she wished it to be.

She once wrote an article entitled "The Facsist New Frontier" (!) denouncing John Kennedy's famous call "Ask not what your country and can do for you can do for your country" as totalitarianism. Naturally, this bizarre hallucination couldn't find a publisher.

I'm neither a Lib, a Democrat or a Kennedy-whorshipper, but his call was a noble once and while, on the one hand, it would lead to more than 50,000 deaths in Vietnam, it also led to the Space Program and gave prestige and impetus to the fight against the USSR that culminated in Ronald Reagan's destruction of it.

However, in the interests of fairness, if you want to check out Rand and her "philosophy" check out the "official" website of the "institute" created by her "intellectual" heir, Leonard Peikopf here: http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServer

If this be more than you wanna know, sorry!

PainMan 16:37, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Metalocalypse
Hey,

Why'd you remove all the links to the trailer and MySpace's for the band members? I understand removing spam, but these are pertinent to the article...

Search 4  Lancer  17:26, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

List of automobiles that were commercial failures up for deletion
Hi,

You have taken part in the AfD process for List of successful automobiles and voted delete. The decision was unanimous and the article was subsequently deleted. Now a corresponding article, List of automobiles that were commercial failures, is up for deletion for the same reasons. It would be only logicial and just to have them both deleted, so I cordially invite you to take part in the new discussion.

Regards, Bravada, talk - 09:07, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi
I am writing to inform you, and many others, that an AfD in which you voted delete, List of automobiles that were commercial failures, was already unsucessfully nominated a short time ago, but under a different title. This was not noted in the nomination. Please read the opposing arguments here, and reconsider your vote, because it is important that the opinions of previous voters be considered. Thanks! AdamBiswanger1 23:44, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Re:Lieberman article
After converting over 150 links to use the ref tags and making minor edits to the page, it was really nice to see a positive comment about the work. Thank you for brightening my day. --MZMcBride 05:45, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Lost - External Links
Please see this straw poll. --Jabrwocky7 03:55, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Lostpedia controversy
Dposse, you might be interested to weigh in on the new summary of arguments section in the Lost discussion page. In particular, the subsection on proposed solutions has an element of the earlier straw poll to it. It's an experiment, but I'm hoping to get enough action in the items that really matter to allow a casual reader to see where everybody stands without too much bloat. Thanks --Loqi T. 20:04, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

John Mark Karr
I am sure that you are proud to know "big words". However, New York Times earlier today said that Thai officials indicated that he would have his visa revoked and be expelled from the country, rather than face extradition proceedings. An extradition can take 6 months or more, and even if unopposed, can take weeks. Any country can expel a foreigner, for reasons that vary from country to country, and typicaly a foreigner is expelled to his country of origin. An extradition is a legal proceeding, sought by one country to another. As the NYT article in question has been edited since this morning and no longer includes the statement, my insertion is now unsourced and I have not re-inserted it, but that does not make your edit any less incorrect. But your use of "big words" has in fact (twice!) inserted an error in the page, and again lessened the value and credibility of Wikipedia, albeit in a small way. -- Semifreddo 00:32, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * You wrote: "In fact, this is an Extradition". Again, in fact, nothing has yet happened, and in all likelihood, it will not be an extradition, he will be expelled to the U.S.   If you have any evidence to the contrary, I would love to see it.  In response to your second question, "Why do Wikipedians have to be such assholes and hypocrites?"  Well, I can only offer my opinion, but here it is:  the majority of Wikipedians are not experts in the fields in which they are pontificating, and as such are insecure in their opinions.  Add to this that (this is unprovable), the majority (or substantial minority) of active Wikipedia editors are teen-agers, and these insecurities, coupled with relative anonymity and a lack of social conditioining, contribute to both a hair-trigger response to criticism and and a visceral response to any challenge.  One suggestion I've heard for the "Law of Wikipedia" is: twenty assholes don't make an expert.  The corollary is that twenty assholes plus one expert are indistinguishable from twenty-one assholes.  -- Semifreddo 07:13, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * P.s. - the latest revision of the page says he'll be deported (read "expelled") and sources an article saying: "Officials in Washington said Karr would not require extradition from Bangkok and could simply be deported.". Call that what you will. -- Semifreddo 07:19, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Now my turn to eat crow -- you fixed it. Good on ya.  All is forgiven. -- Semifreddo 07:22, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Hurricane Katrina vandal on Hurricane Ernesto
Please don't feed the trolls. By the way, I'm borrowing your penguin. Ya ya ya ya ya ya 00:26, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

"No need for that" on Steve Irwin
Use edit summaries! Reversions without explanation are annoying. I didn't add it glibly. But you're right--it couldn't have lasted. Cheers, Marskell 22:46, 4 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry to be stupid, but having just looked at your contrib's: use edit summaries. Once you get in the habit you'll never get out of it. It makes editing much easier for all. Cheers, Marskell 23:04, 4 September 2006 (UTC)


 * No, I'm not confused; 6 summaries in 50 edits is not a lot. However, I was unnecessarily annoyed. That's what I get for deciding to edit something on the top of the main page. Marskell 06:33, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Germaine Greer
You asked "Huh?" on the Steve Irwin page about (I think) the comment: It should not be posted what some fringe feminist nut said about his death.... - The anon was referring to Germaine Greer who said 'The animal world got its revenge' Regards --Golden Wattle ( formerly known as Arktos ) talk 20:58, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Steve Irwin and environmentalism
Ref your recent edit summary - what is the problem?--Golden Wattle talk 00:25, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

It states on this topic:
 * Have a look at the profile - reasonably extensive in one of Australia's leading newspapers several years ago (2002) and republished following Irwin's death. http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2006/09/04/1157222053963.html?page=fullpage
 * Irwin has taken a number of "minor hits" from crocs and non-venomous snakes, and often jokes to tourists about how certain crocs are always trying to eat him for having captured them. But any mention of people eating crocs, or crocodile farming, makes him as cranky as a nesting taipan. "I loathe it, disgust it, and am totally appalled," he growls of the numerous Australian farms where tourists can sample crocodile meat. "People say it's cool to eat crocs and kangaroos. But, geez, we're the only nation in the world that would eat our national anthem..."


 * Terri: "Our coat of arms."


 * Irwin: "Do you think Americans would sit down and eat bald eagle? I'm here to tell you it's not right! It's embarrassing for Australia that we eat our own wildlife." And so on. At the suggestion that these are subjective views, and that farming is farming, Irwin makes a startling speech. "Here is my greatest gift to the world," he cries. "We need to stand proud of what is Australia ... the greatest grazing nation on the face of the Earth! The whole joint is grazing land ... and by crikey we're good at it! We should be ... [eating] beef and lamb, not kangaroos and crocodiles. They're why [tourists] come to Australia. They are tourism icons!"


 * But what about our history of overgrazing, salinity, erosion?


 * The Wildlife Warrior waves this aside. "Cows have been on our land for so long that Australia has evolved to handle those big animals," he says vaguely. It's a confusing perspective, but the message seems to be that eating roos and crocs is bad for tourism, and more cruel than eating other animals. Terri, who lectures on tourism marketing and promotion at a local campus, is especially vocal on the theme. ("Steve helped build our new 1,500-seat restaurant," she has told me earlier. "My job is to fill it.")


 * In early episodes of The Crocodile Hunter, conservation themes were barely evident.


 * That changed dramatically after the program took off on the Animal Planet network, when the Irwins' "mission" to "save the planet" became a permanent sub-plot.


 * A couple of years ago, Irwin used his Web site to mount a furious "Millennium Resolution" attack on croc farming, and other forms of so-called sustainable-use wildlife management. "The time has come for me to expose the current 'Hitlers of wildlife'," he proclaimed. "My dad and God have prepared me for the immense personal attacks I am about to receive [as a consequence]."


 * But there were no attacks, and little or no public response. Keith Cook, proprietor of the Cairns Crocodile Farm, says Irwin's broadside was too silly to bother with: "All it meant, in my eyes, was that he'd gone from a harmless buffoon to some sort of religious crusader, [whose] show has become a means of preaching to the gullible." Cook points to a long history of "strange egomania" among Australians associated with crocodiles, who he says become obsessed with a need for attention. "They're prepared to do the stupidest things, in terms of safety, and make outlandish claims, and vilify others, because they feel their territory is being intruded upon."

I think it is important to note that Irwin's views on environmentalism were naive. I have done so with reference to the views of others from a reliable source.--Golden Wattle talk 00:41, 7 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Our talk page edits obviously crossed in the ether :-) I hadn't seen yours before posting the above note.
 * I disagree that the SMH concerns are misplaced. They are important.  To remove the criticism from the environmentalism section implies that he was an environmentalist and its all good news.  That is not entirely the case.  The controversies section deals with some issues (baby and Antarctica) which are being notable by themselves not just an underlying concern about Irwin.--Golden Wattle  talk 00:48, 7 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry but it is definitely naive to say "Cows have been on our land for so long that Australia has evolved to handle those big animals" and all that is implied by that statement shows he did not understand the Australian environment.--Golden Wattle talk 00:51, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I live here (Australia) and have seen the damage grazing has done - you haven't. If you want to hero worship somebody go ahead, but do so for the right reasons not the wrong ones.  Review the Antarctica controversy too - he may have been great at wrestling crocodiles, but ... the environment - sorry  not his forte --Golden Wattle  talk 01:24, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Wii Table
hello. would you mind discussing your table on the talk page before you add it to the article? I don't think your table is a good idea since you removed too much infomation. Also, the old table looked better and fitted in the article better. For now, i'm reverting until other wikipedians can express their opinions on this. dposse 02:16, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
 * The Table was in the talk section. And the point of the new table WAS to make it look better. I also stated that if anything was omitted than it can be added in as soon as it can be done. ItIsMe 02:20, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

All Good Things
Why did you blank most of that article? - Gl e n 23:06, 20 September 2006 (UTC)


 * It happens! Thanks for getting back to me :) - Gl e n 23:12, 20 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Of course not - but please be certain to use the edit summary to explain why you're removing so much info - you can see from your edit here that it looked like someone blanking the article so much info was deleted. Just note removing surplus trivia or something to note you are doing it to improve the article. Keep up the great work :) - Gl e n 23:20, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Please Use Edit Summaries
Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. Thanks, and happy editing. Muéro(talk/c) 00:21, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
 * As of right now, you have provided an edit summary on only 20.56% of your edits. I just happened to notice it when you edited The Raconteurs, which is on my watchlist. --Muéro(talk/c) 00:45, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Please read Help:Edit summary. It explains that editors should "always fill in the summary field. This is considered an important guideline. An edit summary should strive to answer the question, 'Why did you make this edit?'. Providing an edit summary, even if the edit is minor, makes Wikipedia work better by quickly explaining to other users what your change was about." Yes, I can always check what you edited, but if you provide an edit summary, I wouldn't have to check. --Muéro(talk/c) 14:32, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Wii Name
I noticed that you moved the block I wrote about the Wii name down to the criticisms section. Someone else moved it back. Please do not move it again. While it's possible to put a summary of it in the criticisms section, I think that the reaction to the name belongs under the Name section as opposed to the Criticisms section. The reason for this is that, as events pan out and people get more used to the name, or it becomes a household name (i.e. after release), we can expand that section to include how the reaction changes. --Twile 14:31, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

YouTube
Hi! I see you're actively editing a section in YouTube, so I'll just pass the suggestion along to you. It's the sentence "This will catapult Google into the leader position the online video revolution." It seems a little unencyclopedic to me to say "catapult" or "revolution". I'd agree that this probably makes Google number one by some measure, but wouldn't it be better to say who says so and what the measure used is? E.g., "John Smith, analyst with Dewey, Chethem & Howe, says..." Thanks, William Pietri 22:31, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

The Colbert Report
There is no substantial reason why the Eagle's Nest section was cut down except that it was bullet point information that looked like trivia. If that stuff in not OR in any way, please bring it back in form of well-cited prose. Good luck if you attempt that. Lincher 20:14, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the confusion but if you want to bring the picture back, arm yourself with a very solid fair use rationale or it wont stand the chance of being on the article, and especially not where it was placed. Lincher 00:44, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Lost fan sites
The people opposing a Lostpedia listing are not ignorant of it; they want to keep our readers ignorant of it. There are editors of the Lost article who beleive that only outside links to sites owned by the studio should be permitted, no matter how pathetic they are, or how good the non-astroturf sites are. I'm hoping for a few explicit signatures on the survey, for whatever it's worth. It'll help me out, even if they don't care about you. Incidentally, in the discussion of those proposals, PKtm has characterized you as a non-contributor to Wikipedia, but that's not consistent with my reading of your history.

P.S. If you want to learn OOP, I recommend checking out O'Reiley's "Head First" series. They don't have a C++ title yet, but the ones I've seen on Design Patterns and Java have been really great at getting people up fast and proper. They're written in a way to make tricky concepts stick. Check 'em out. --Loqi T. 18:25, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Pearl Jam
As a suggestion, when you disagree, please do not be hostile about it. You could have requested a discussion from the beginning without the hostility, but as you may have noticed, another editor reverted your changes as well, and you accused us of being wrong which comes across as hostile. Using all caps in your edit summaries has a hostile connotation to it. Asking for a discussion and then threatening to have an article locked in the same breath is counter productive. Different opinions are expected, but your approach to the disagreement only fuels hostile emotions. Just some advice. -MattWatt 17:42, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

RE: Save the cheerleader
No, but I can guess. Peter thinks they have to save "her" and Nathan's not exactly mister positive. Yeah, sure. Try to make it seem encyclopedic. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 03:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Terminator 4 stub
I copied your comments to Talk:Terminator_4 and responded there, to centralize discussion. I don't see enough yet for a verifiable stub, but I'm willing to be convinced (or rather see consensus can change) if you can find a bit more firm details. Most of what you posted is rumor mill, fan submitted suppositions, and denials of various parties being in the film. Good luck. -- nae'blis 13:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * You're quite welcome.Sharkface217 23:38, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Remember, remember

 * Remember, Remember,
 * The Fifth of November,
 * The Gunpowder Treason and Plot.
 * I know of no reason,
 * Why the Gunpowder Treason,
 * Should ever be forgot.

From what you posted on my talk page, I am assuming that you own a DVD copy of V for Vendetta. Could you possibly upload images of Etheridge, Valerie, Heyer, and the other characters whose pages I created that do not have images? I upload ones of Etheridge and Heyer by print-screening from YouTube, but they won't appear on the page. If you do this, thank you very very much.

Cheerio.

- JustPhil 21:51, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Don't forget to vote next Tuesday.

Your comment
Please do not make false statements about me or my actions. Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 15:16, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

the white stripes and nobody knows how to talk to children
i dont know how this can be verified, what do you want as proof? theres a trailer around on the net probably made it to youtube. i have seen the film with my own two eyes but it is unreleased so obviously there will be a lack of sources as it was pretty low key from the start

yes but thats my point, it isnt just something ive heard about i know for fact that it is a real thing as i have it. il look for a site on the net that ranb a story on it or something then but i doubt il find onem, like i said very low key.

and the heat shouldnt be there, jack produced their album and they opened for the stripes but they no longer have anything to do with the band. really, if whirlwind heat are there then so should loretta lynn and the hentchmen and the go and blanche.... see what i mean? you cant just include one of these bands jack has been heavily involved in. if it stays past a few days il add in all the other appropriate bands

Wii sections
Is there something wrong with the sections in the Wii article that needs correction? Jecowa 00:43, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I think I am misunderstanding something. Your edit summary in this edit reads, "  Titles ." I can't figure out what you mean by this. What specifically about section names are you referring to in the WP:MoS? Jecowa 02:53, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Heroes episode "Fallout"
If there are sentence fragments, then fix them. But my changes made the article more accurate, it was full of errors and omissions. I've seen the episode a few times and know what I'm talking about. What do you mean by "wierd stuff"? --Stabbey 00:44, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Some lines of dialogue aren't quite right. Eden doesn't tell Isaac to go be a hero, she tells him to go save the world. Sylar in Peter's dream doesn't say "How can you be a hero", he says "How can you change what's coming". I was taking notes because I did the episode summary for The TV IV. I also think that Mr. Bennet telling Claire that there are other bad men who are also after her power has a place in the article. I would also like it mentioned that D.L. and Niki reconciled, that's a plot point that will likely drive the next part of D.L.'s story arc. How's that? --Stabbey 14:06, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

I've made minor corrections, and I'm going to work on the first scene again offline to see about fitting the "bad men" in. It'll take too much time if I try and tweak it online. I think it's important to have that in, it fuels Claire's fear in the latter part of the episode.--Stabbey 21:14, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


 * How's this look ?
 * The episode begins with Mr. Bennet bringing Claire home amidst a discussion regarding her powers. Mr. Bennet admits to Claire that he knew about her powers even before she did. She becomes angry with him, but he calms her by telling her he was trying to protect her. He warns her that there are other bad men who will try to hurt her if they find out she’s special. Mr. Bennet asks her who else knows about her powers. Claire tells him that Zach knows all about her ability and what she is capable of, and that Lyle found out after stealing one of the films of Claire jumping from an oil rig and being hit by a car. --Stabbey 21:28, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The episode begins with Mr. Bennet bringing Claire home amidst a discussion regarding her powers. Mr. Bennet admits to Claire that he knew about her powers even before she did. She becomes angry with him, but he calms her by telling her he was trying to protect her. He warns her that there are other bad men who will try to hurt her if they find out she’s special. Mr. Bennet asks her who else knows about her powers. Claire tells him that Zach knows all about her ability and what she is capable of, and that Lyle found out after stealing one of the films of Claire jumping from an oil rig and being hit by a car. --Stabbey 21:28, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

The Haitian
I have watched the episodes. The Haitian has only blocked telepathic (or, if you prefer, mental) powers. When the Haitian was around, Matt described the problem as "interference", not silence (as negation would presumbly be). He also can apparently block Eden's power. However, he did not block Nathan's ability to fly, despite the fact that he was attempting to kidnap him. Primogen 22:03, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

You asked about how I explained Eden and Sylar. Well, as I said about, the Haitian can apparently block her powers. I don't know that he can block Sylar's powers. It may have been Eden's Voice power that caused Sylar not to attack her. I don't know what kept Sylar from using his powers in the cell -- some people think the cell itself has neutralizing powers that Sylar eventually figured out how to overcome. Or perhaps the Haitian interferes with Mental Powers (like telepathy, persuasion, telekinesis). But this is all interpretation, and therefore "original research". I think that the only thing that we can gleam from the show without any interpreation is that the Haitian blocks telepathy. Primogen 00:15, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

White Stripes
Nice try at attempting to blank sourced info genius.

The source states, "Reviewers have written glowingly about the record, lauding its modern take on blues-punk guitar and a folk-rock sensibility.", There are plenty more that can be provided, learn how to read nextime. - Deathrocker 09:22, 25 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Who are you to talk about civilty with bad faith edit summary comments such as this "removed spam. that referenced says nothing about folk rock. nice try.)"? When the link did indeed say something about folk rock, and the link was not spam... I've found a new source anyways... plenty more can be found if you persist. Also, here is Jack White himself talking about how the band play folk.- Deathrocker 19:36, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

AFDs
Hi. The instructions are at WP:AFD. Or, you can use the 'Nominate AFD' link on the left hand panel of the article. That will do mostly everything automatically. The JPS talk to me  18:08, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Saddam
Why do you keep restoring the unnecessary heading (and the poorly written intro), as opposed to the way they have stood for three years? As I said to another editor earlier today:


 * While I'm open to changing the headings, I really think changes should be in the direction of making them more chronological. Over my time on Wikipedia, I've noticed that biographies and history entries tend to become messy, at least when not constantly watched by a stable circle of dedicated editors, when they are organized topically as opposed to a way keeping the article focused on the timeline. For instance, they often lead to disputes when editors find themselves disagreeing on criteria for deciding whether particular topics are suitably relevant for headings. 

If you study the page history of the article, you'll see that I'm rolling back to the stable structure of the article, not intituting major undiscussed changes. 172 | Talk 05:19, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Huh? The edit isn't too large. A lot of text appears in red because headings were moved around. I did not make major changes to the text, other than in the intro. Please take another look, and get rid of those awful new section headings. I don't want to do so myself, as I want to avoid making reversions. 172 | Talk 05:31, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

"by taunting guards"
I agree with you about reverting this edit, but it's actually true that the guards were taunting him as they led him to the gallows. It's just not appropriate in the lead like that. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs)  18:19, 1 January 2007 (UTC)


 * No worries, I would have reverted it too. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs)  18:26, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

compromise?
Although i completely agree with your statements under the new talk page section "POV review", couldn't a compromise be to add Squeaks statements to Trial of Saddam Hussein? dposse 19:50, 1 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Probably, as long as the comments are balanced and cited (with attribution directly in the article -- you shouldn't have to read the cited articles to find out who said what). My concern (Talk:Saddam Hussein) was that the lead section of Saddam Hussein isn't the appropriate place for opinions, particularly controversial ones. -- Jim Douglas (talk)  (contribs)  19:55, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

AFD; edit conflicts
Hi Dposse, you seem to have accidentally de-listed Articles for deletion/Misnomer (2 nomination), probably while you were trying to list Articles for deletion/Retro metal. diff Please be careful when there's an edit conflict :) —Quarl (talk) 2007-01-02 06:45Z 


 * I did? Are you sure? I reverted Saturdays AFD list because a random IP tried to list "Snow pea" (or something like that) on the Saturday AFD list on monday. I thought i only removed that one item. If by some fluke i screwed up, i'm sorry. dposse 15:33, 2 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, see the diff above. It caused a slight bit of confusion with Articles for deletion/Misnomer (2 nomination), but I listed it properly so no harm done.  Thanks for trying to fix the IP's mistake. —Quarl (talk) 2007-01-03 00:22Z 

Saddam's letter
Please see the source I cited: it is Associated Press and it tells that it's their translation from Arabic. Unless You can read arabic Yourself and see details, we have to trust to AP. So please check that no one touches AP's translation. Thanks in advance. DenisRS 22:47, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Heroes (TV show) References
I got the TIME reference organized, and that inspired me to fix up the other references on the article as well. Thanks for the idea! :) If you want to learn more about the citation format used on the Heroes article, I'd recommend checking out the  Citation Templates (a.k.a WP:CITET).  So far the templates most common are news, web, press release, and comic book reference (for the graphic novels).  Also, information on the references tags used with the cite templates is available at  Footnotes (a.k.a WP:FOOT).  Hope your day's awesome!  -  fmmarianicolon | Talk 00:25, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Speedy Keep vote not appropriate
Speedy keep is not appropriate since it does not meet the speedy keep guideline for the following reasons: 1) I want the pages deleted, I have not withdrawn my nomination, 2) This is not vandalism or disruption. 3) I am not banned. 4) The article it not currently linked from the main page. Any votes as such are not appropriate. I request you change your vote to keep on all these AFDs. Thank you. -- MECU ≈ talk 00:01, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Ted Sprague
Could you explain why you added a cleanup tag to Ted Sprague? Without an accompaanying message on the talk page, such templates may seem inappropriate and/or arbitrarially used. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 18:54, 25 January 2007 (UTC)


 * copyedit. In the future, I'll try to be more careful. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 18:59, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Heroes
I'll thank you to read revision histories before moving something back to where it was prior. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 13:15, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Are you remaining ignorant of revision histories? I.e. Did you bother to actually read it?
 * "(cur) (last) 18:22, 27 January 2007 Ed g2s (Talk | contribs) (screencap being used out of context of description of event, unnecessary)"
 * Do you not realise at all that you are just causing more grief towards the image problem? Are you under the impression that just because you move the image into the infobox that the fair use police will leave the articles alone? And what gives you the impression every wikipedia article uses screen captures in the infobox? Does this article or this, I expect an apology. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 13:24, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 * "Now, why is there an issue with the fair use of those two pictures and not the others?" - the first part of your argument is known as a "argumentum ad ignorantiam", just because a user has removed them from there and I've so kindly re-added them correctly does not mean I am obligated to fix the other pages. "If you continue to revert it without discussing it to a WP:Consensus, i will have the two articles fully protected until we reach one." - I'm sure you'll done a fine job protecting the pages when you are not an administrator, please see WP:REVERT: "Do not revert changes simply because someone makes an edit you consider problematic, biased, or inaccurate. Improve the edit, rather than reverting it." -- PS: You still have not apologised, but even so I am a forgiving person, I do forgve you! thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 13:41, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry you do not like my tone but I do believe I have been perfectly civil in stating my points. I may of been sarcastic but I do not consider that a personal attack, nor do I believe it is uncivil to request an apology, because to be fair I believe I deserve(d) one considering I'm trying to keep the images within the articles rather then let them be removed. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 15:50, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Please see the Fair use criteria, specifically FUC #8: "The material must contribute significantly to the article (e.g. identify the subject of an article, or specifically illustrate relevant points or sections within the text) and must not serve a purely decorative purpose." If the image is in the infobox it is not providing critical commentary (illustrate the relevant points..) and that allows fair use policers (for example: Ed) to remove them from the infobox under the guise of FUC #8, however if they are within the specific body of text they are providing critical commentary on they are perfectly fair use with a good fair use rationale. It is perfectly acceptable to use fair use imagery in an infobox in some/most cases outside of television episodes (for example a character, as the image is providing critical commentary on the whole article) however an episode contains thousands of frames and provides critical commentary on one part of the episode. Unfortunately we most adapt if we wish to keep the fair use imagery. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 16:08, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Why only those two? I don't know, I guess Ed only targeted those two pages and left the rest (for now, anyway) thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 16:30, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Freem
May I ask why you removed the definition of "Freem" from the Colbert Report article?

SWozniak 02:22, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Of course it didn't have a source. It was a question I asked him in person and that is the answer he gave me.

SWozniak 01:40, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

A suggestion.
Hey, what's up Dposse? How was your day? Listen, I'm here to suggest a WikiProject so you can consider it. Check out the League of Copyeditors. I've been reviewing some of your contributions to the Heroes articles, and I've seen that you've been doing some copyediting, and remarkable copyediting at that! And that's what the project is about. Fixing grammar, etc. We would really appreciate your help! And besides, we need experienced copyeditors to help clear the backlog. It's extremely long! We've even started a Participation Drive to help us clear that backlog. You'll receive the Patrticipation Drive notice if you want to join the Project. So just think about it, consider joining us! Again, your help would be most appreciated! Oh, and about my dumb mistakes on Distractions (Heroes), thanks for giving an explanation and understanding. So, let's be WikiFriends! Nn, that one is your choice. ^_^ Cheers! &mdash; ♥ Tohru Honda13  ♥ 03:39, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

League of Copyeditors
Hi there! I came across your edits and noticed that you do a fair amount of copy-editing. I'm a member of the League of Copyeditors, a project dedicated to managing the sizable backlog of articles needing a copy-edit. We're always looking for new members, and you'd make a great addition to the project! We've started a participation drive for the remainder of February. If you're interested, you can help clear the backlog by adopting the following goals each week:
 * Select an article to copy-edit from the backlog. After your copy-edit, list the article in the ready for final proofread section.
 * Select a different article to proofread from the ready for final proofread section.

Thanks, and happy editing! But I already mentioned this. :)&mdash; ♥ Tohru Honda13  ♥ 00:38, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Anna Nicole Smith Song
Why are you calling a song written about Anna Nicole Spam? This was written by a very prominant writer. This is not spam and it is very relevant to her death! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jerri1975 (talk • contribs)

Dale, on heroes
Dale did premiere, in that promo. Whether or not we should 'count' that, is probably something for the WP:HEROES groups to sort out. However, it was actual NBC promotional shooting, edited and broadcast as a deliberate part of the Heroes storylines. NOthing in the section was particularly 'wrong', though I edited out a couple of things, like assuming she's a hero, instead of just another powered victim. We'll have to wait to add either 'Sylar killed her and now he's got her powers too', or 'She figured Sylar out by hearing him mutter something and fled.' or whatever actually happens. ThuranX 17:41, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Unexpected
Hey. Didn't realise someone had protected it, I can't unprotect it as I'm not a sysop, I'll file a RFPP if no one else does soon. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 16:30, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Radiation Emission on Peter Petrelli
Dposse, It is not original research to state that Peter has demonstrated radiation emission - the thing that he fears the most. In the flash of multiple powers he shows at the end of Distrations he comes close to exploding. Also, it is not original research to state which characters Peter has interacted with and that he has not demonstrated the powers of these characters. Twinotter 16:30, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi again, I'd like to point you toward the Help:Reverting help page. If you think my edits are vandalism, that might be a good reason to revert. But my edits were not intended to be vandalism. As such, please make appropriate edits but don't just revert my changes wholesale. Feel free to talk to me more about this on my talk page or on the discussion page for Peter Petrelli. Thanks. Twinotter 16:49, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Plot cleanup and removal of maintenance tags
Please do not remove maintenance notices from articles on Wikipedia, as you did to, as you did to [[:]]. It may be considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox.

Please do not remove the maintenance tags for the Heroes episode articles. Plot summaries are not permitted on Wikipedia. You can present main plot elements and their significance to the show, not a scene-by-scene review of an episode. See WP:NOT for official policy against plot summaries. --Madchester 18:53, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually the issue of the play-by-play nature of the current plot summaries has been address by other editors (Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Heroes). I'm not the only one concerned about this issue. The fact is WP:HEROES is superseded by official Wikipedia policy including WP:NOT. You can't make exceptions to official policy for a project that you're personally involved in.

Please note that no one editor has ownership of an article. Please don't threaten other users for changing work that you've done. Assume good faith on behalf of other editors who work on these articles, even those not actively involved in WP:HEROES. Thanks. --Madchester 21:04, 24 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I have already presented my concerns for the Heroes episodes articles above. The plot summaries can be condensed to 5-6 paragraph, that's a more than fair compromise.  Most featured articles on fictional works such as "Pilot (House)" or Jaws (film) have plot synopses of that length, without conflicting with official policy of WP:NOT.  5-6 paragraphs is a much better layout than the current 11 paragraph format.  It's not too much to ask for.


 * And again, please don't get too protective over changes to the article. No one editor owns an article and anyone is free to make good faith edits as they see fit.  Editors shouldn't have to be asking for approval from "regulars" to make beneficial edits in accordance with official policy.


 * Cheers. --Madchester 21:38, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Puzzlehunt Edits - re "-cum-"
Howdy Dposse - I just wanted to clarify one thing regarding the Puzzlehunt page which you recently edited. The phrase "puzzle-cum-game" which I wrote is not, in fact, vandalism, but a perfectly good use of a well-respected conjunction, "cum" (see Merriam-Webster Online). That this word shares its spelling with a particular slang term is no reason to ban it from the language (though I perceive your edit as a good faith attempt to clean up a page, and no kind of Bowdlerism). In this particular case, I think the phrase is an apt usage - puzzlehunts are combinations of puzzles and games, and the phrase expresses that quite clearly. Thanks for your clean-up of the page, though, which is nicely improved.--Glp 13:13, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Re:Peter edit
Upon looking at my edit a second time, it's a horrible way to reword it. I'm sorry, I'm just not myself lately. I guess stress really does interfere with editing. I'm sorry. I already undid the edit. I'll do better next time. Thanks for pointing it out. ♣ Tohru Honda13  ♣ 22:04, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Horcrux
Hello ! Since you seemed interested in the "theories on hallows" issue in the DH article, I think you might be interested in the fact that our beloved duo, Michaelsanders and Sandpiper, are creating the same troubles in the Horcrux article: this time, they want to use a self-published book containing a collection of theories from various fans involved in fansites like Mugglenet...Folken de Fanel 19:39, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Logan Act
Hey, amigo, What's the rationale behind your revert ed of this piece. This is not "orignal research." Check the references. What's the basis for what you did. Thanks for quick reply. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.73.197.29 (talk) 02:28, 7 April 2007 (UTC).

Recent Edits to "Heroes (TV)" Page
If you are going to delete a section, don't you think it should be DISCUSSED first? Otherwise, people might suspect you of vandalism. -- Jane Q. Public 20:45, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

(ADDED LATER) Dposse, I am trying to be civil but you are making it difficult. I have personally messaged you about this subject and also explained my position in the discussion page. If you continue to edit in the manner you have, without taking the time to discuss the issue here first, I am going to report you for vandalism. -- Jane Q. Public 21:22, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Ashley Ferl
You nominated this article for deletion, without giving any reason why or posting anything in the discussion page. Please do this from now on when you nominate an article, and could you please go back to Ashley Ferl and provide you reason? Thank you. - Hmwith 22:03, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I apologize for being rude. It just make it a lot easier for editors of the articles. - Hmwith 22:09, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Help with the R.A.B. article
Users trying to add original research...I need your help on this one.Folken de Fanel 17:02, 18 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Do not bring your argument to my own personal talk page. Thank you. dposse 22:46, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Maint. tags
Hi. Please do not remove maintenance tags that have the clear support of guidelines. See WP:AVTRIV. Trivia is unencyclopaedic and should be integrated or removed, the guidelines are template are clear on this. Matthew 15:01, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh I see (these Heroes articles get too many edits, I'm already out-of-date by the time I watch the episode :-P). Yea, I used to remove trivia sections (now I just tag them). Some editors get slightly "upset" when their precious trivia is removed. The ugly tag (trivia) at the top of an article often persuades people to remove the junk and integrate the rest. Matthew 15:09, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Lisaedelstein.jpg
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Vote stacking
Hey. Just as a notice, I've rollbacked all of Ned's edits and issued him a uw-npa4im. I pretty much agree with you on the matter - Matthew is just alerting people to an AFD which could affect a lot of articles, not vote stacking. Will (is it can be time for messages now plz?) 20:33, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

re:talk page
This might help you if you want to archive your talk page: How to archive a talk page. I've never archived a talk page before myself, but the cut-and-paste method seems the easiest. Hope this helps. --GVOLTT 18:40, 30 April 2007 (UTC)