User talk:Dr.Ali.Mahmoodi.Motlagh

August 2023
Hello, I'm Apaugasma. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Abu Bakr al-Razi seemed less than neutral and has been removed. If you think this was a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. ☿ Apaugasma  ( talk  ☉) 00:23, 19 August 2023 (UTC)


 * First I want to know who are you? Everything I made was based on the nature of Persian Language. We don't have (AL ال) in our language and we can't and should not write our peoples name the way attackers and rappers (Arabs of that era) wanted and forced us to do so. Your ignorance is exactly like forcing people to call them either man or woman since they were previously forced to do so. I don't know who you exactly are but we can't tolerate these on a free world. Arabs are making fake history for themselves out of our Persian resources. They Call Persian Golf (A&&Rbian Golf) by financing google. Is it write to call Arabian Sea the Persian Sea or Indian Ocean the Persian Ocean?  Dr.Ali.Mahmoodi.Motlagh (talk) 02:33, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry for not answering in a timely manner: user talk pages only stay on my watchlist for a month, so I didn't see your reply before today. I am a Wikipedia editor just like you. If you want to know more, you can take a look at my user page.
 * All you need to know is that at Wikipedia, we neutrally reproduce and summarize what reliable sources write. Please make sure that your edits do not contradict what reliable sources write. If you have strong feelings about ethnic or national issues, it's probably better to stay away from editing that type of subject entirely.
 * Thanks for taking this into consideration, ☿ Apaugasma  ( talk  ☉) 21:47, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi.
 * Thanks for your recommendation but you have to distinguish facts from patriotisms and feelings. I clearly argued that these are linguistic facts similar to saying that "in English language, they use "the" and not "Le" (as in French) for known words. These are called self-evident facts which also could be rooted in the literature with many academic resources. The persons' name should not come or translated with the linguistic elements that are not used in the translated language. We can't translate "The Book" to " The live" in French! We can't name " کوروش کبیر " the "کبیر Cyrus" in English! It is self-evident that we can't translate part of a phrase and keep the other part in original language.
 * As my final argument: These scientists were not called by invaders the way they were named by their own community. This was a cultural aggression to their human rights, apart from the huge violence, rape and geocide that they have gone through. We should not continue this aggression anymore. You need to understand the truth and avoid blindly following the weight the oppressors put in their subjects and I think you should staying away of what you are not knowledgeable enough about. We Iranian people continue our cultural movement to liberate truth from dominance.
 * Best,
 * Ali Dr.Ali.Mahmoodi.Motlagh (talk) 20:54, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * "Al-Razi" is an Arabic name. It's what's called a nisba, formed from the place name "Ray". All other parts of Abu Bakr al-Razi's name are also Arabic. Iranian people in his time had Arabic names and wrote in Arabic. These are the historical facts as found in the reliable sources on which our article is based. If other reliable sources say something different, you are free to cite and discuss these sources on Talk:Abu Bakr al-Razi. We decide article content by wp:consensus (for a previous discussion on this issue, see here).
 * As I mentioned in that discussion, some sources do use the later Persianized form of his name "Razi", but most (see for example among the ones cited at Abu Bakr al-Razi) use the original Arabic "al-Razi". Just make sure you stick to the sources. Please do not mention rape and genocide, which have nothing to do with it. Arguments about ethnic issues do not belong on Wikipedia. This is not the place to right great wrongs (please read the guideline behind that link). I understand that you have strong opinions on the subject, but that may precisely be a good reason to focus on other subjects while editing Wikipedia. Kind regards, ☿ Apaugasma  ( talk  ☉) 22:00, 8 July 2024 (UTC)