User talk:Dr. Hamza Ebrahim

February 2019
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May 2019
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May 2019
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be repeatedly reverting or undoing other editors' contributions at Muhammad bin Qasim. Although this may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is known as "edit warring" and is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, as it often creates animosity between editors. Instead of reverting, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

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Thank you. Kautilya3 (talk) 18:01, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be repeatedly reverting or undoing other editors' contributions at Muhammad bin Qasim. Although this may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is known as "edit warring" and is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, as it often creates animosity between editors. Instead of reverting, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

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ARBIPA sanctions alert
Kautilya3 (talk) 02:10, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

AGF and sources
Dr. Hamza, I want to make some comments about these posts here privately.
 * Assume Good Faith is a cardinal principle of Wikipedia editing. You need to stop making comments about me or what I might believe in etc. If you continue to do so, you will face sanctions.
 * As I told you earlier, you are welcome to believe in whatever you want to believe in. You cannot put it in Wikipedia. Reading and interpreting WP:PRIMARY sources is considered WP:Original research and it is prohibited on Wikipedia. It can be done to a limited extent, provided it is attributed, and you generate consensus for it among all the involved editors. You need to stop treating Wikipedia is a personal blog site. Everything added here is subject to consensus.
 * If there is problematic content sourced to Chachnama, you are welcome to remove it or tag it. I don't have any affinity to that source.
 * Based on the WP:SECONDARY source you have provided, I consider this material WP:UNDUE on this page. You can put it in Attiyah's page if you want. I don't particularly care what goes in that page even though I think that page is quite unreadable and in a poor shape at present.
 * If you do add it here, you need to summarise the source faithfully, which means stating that Attiyah participated in the invasion of Sindh as an officer. You cannot pick and choose what you like or dislike.

Pinging admin to help reinforce these points. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 19:04, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

We can not hide facts just to assume good faith. You can not remove something from wikipedia just because you like someone to be portrayed as a champion of human values. I did provide three primary and one secondary source. The dispute should have ended there. Instead you threatened me with a ban and also reported me which ended well. Attiyah was a rebel not officer in Umatyad army. And the Shia-Abbasid struggle ended the Umayyad rule shortly afterwards. Secondly, Attiyah is regarded a credible source of Hadith by bith the Sunni and the Shia scholars of Hadith, and Muhammad bin Qasim is not. Neither Sunnis nor Shias took any Hadith from him. Attiyah was a disciple of the companion of the Prophet Jabir ibn Abdullah al-Ansari. He was among the main intellectuals and leading figures of the time. Therefore, it is necessary to include this section in the page to make it compatible with the real history. You should not be biased if you want to contribute to Wikipedia, for religious reasons or whatever. Note: If I had enough time, I will remove fake news from this page and add more credible information. Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 21:26, 31 May 2019 (UTC)


 * You are continuing to cast WP:aspersions. I am not trying to portray anybody as anything. I am simply asking you to stick to scholarly SECONDARY sources. Just read what the policies say about WP:PRIMARY and WP:SECONDARY and follow them. We are not interested in your beliefs. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 22:39, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

I have added more content. My concern are not your personal beliefs but your biased and apologetic comments. The first time your removed this section, you said he was just following orders. Then you came with other excuses. When I answered them all, you reported me. Therefore it is better to let other editors and moderators look into this matter.


 * Dr Hamza Ebrahim, a couple of points you should note.
 * Primary sources may be used but only for obvious facts. In general, ancient or medieval texts don't qualify. If there is something useful in a historical text then there must exist a modern secondary source that contextualizes it. So, please don't use historical sources at all and use on modern secondary sources.
 * Accusing other editors of bias is a serious thing on Wikipedia. You must back it up with evidence (and, disagreeing with you does not constitute evidence of bias). Accusing other editors of being biased without evidence is considered disruptive and can lead to blocks and bans. --regentspark (comment) 15:47, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks a lot!

This discussion is based on an early dispute here:- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_bin_Qasim#/talk

Regards! Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 15:54, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia and copyright
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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:46, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Verifiability
Please ensure that the content you add is verifiable, by adding full citations and links where possible. If the sources is not available online, it would be appropriate to provide a quotation that verifies the content.

Here you have cited two chapters of a book for one sentence. That is not reasonable. The terms "persecution" and "peak" do not appear in those chapters or in fact anywhere in the book. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 11:26, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

I have rewritten the text.

Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 12:01, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Removing POV tags
Please do not remove POV tags unilaterally as you have done here. There is a link within the template, which explains the conditions under which it can be removed.

On the whole, I feel that you are not making any effort to read and follow the Wikipedia policies given to you in my welcome message above. As a result, you are wasting a lot of your and my time. Under the ARBIPA sanctions regime, you are responsible for understanding all the applicable policies before editing. Failure to do so can lead to sanctions such as blocks and bans. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 16:37, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

I fulfilled all your demands. You wanted recent scholarly sources, I provided. You wanted to include chachnama claim, although three other more credible sources did not agree with it. I included this too. I named the other sources that did not agree with chachnama and I provided modern scholarly articles to support them. Still you tag this section as non-neutral and pass threats if I remove the tag.

Anyway, thanks for all the dispute because it made the section much more credible.

Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 18:40, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Chak Dynasty moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Chak Dynasty, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Snowycats (talk) 00:21, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

I will add more content once I have time.

Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 00:46, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Talk page usage
Dr. Hamza, you are now engaging on extensive talk page discussions. But you are not indenting posts as is the custom on Wikipedia. I have been reformatting your posts according to the standard format.
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Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 22:53, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your time, discussion, reformatting and the links!

Re your post on WP:NPOV
Hi. Just a heads up that it is not a good idea to open multiple discussions on the same issue (see WP:FORUMSHOP). Also, do remember to sign your posts! Best wishes. --regentspark (comment) 00:27, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Well, you might know because you have been called on by Kautilya3 multiple times, discussion with your friend reached a deadlock and they started wikilawyering. Therefore, I posted on NPOV with a hope to reach a solution.

Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 07:21, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * This was just FYI. You'll get into trouble if you post the same query in multiple places. --regentspark (comment) 13:33, 7 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your time. Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 13:41, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Dr. Hamza Ebrahim, please note that the DRN moderator thought the whole episode of Atiyah was UNDUE on the Muhammad bin Qasim page. So I am surprised you are wanting to expand this all over again.

You have been informed of discretionary sanctions in effect for India/Pakistan/Afghanistan pages. WP:Tendentious editing is not likely to be allowed by the administrators. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 16:54, 7 July 2019 (UTC)


 * It is the cursing of Ali and the revolt of al-Ash'ath that are the main points. I have explained it over and over again but you always wanted to remove them by discussing Atiyah and WP:Wikilawyering. Atiyah is mentioned because he was part of these events. If you are concerned about making it shorter, then instead of removing the few words mentioning the cursing  of Ali, you should remove this part:-


 * "What happened to Attiya after this treatment is not clear. According to Al-Tabari and Ibn Hajar, he fled to Khurasan,[6] [7] but the Chach Nama states that he joined bin Qasim's invasion force as an officer.[5] However, modern historians dispute the credibility of such reports in the Chach Nama [8] ".


 * The discussion on the DRN has been archived here under the title: "Muhammad bin Qasim and the Cursing of Ali":-


 * https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard/Archive_176


 * I have explained that the moderator (with a korean name) appeared to have no idea of Early Muslim History or perhaps was not impartial. It is so clear that both the revolt and the cursing of Ali need a mention. Wikipedia can not omit historically important details.


 * Also note that the rules need to be followed by both of us. You were also informed about the sanctions that might apply.WP:Tendentious editing is when you erase the mention of the cursing of Ali, the fourth Rashidun Caliph of Muslims. Also when you report Chach Nama's claim about Atiyah's presence in Sind but remove the modern scholarly criticism by Friedmann on such claims. Events must be reported faithfully. Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 18:03, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

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Shia Islam in India
Hello, Dr. Hamza Ebrahim,

Do not move articles! You clearly do not know what you are doing. You moved a valid article to an article talk page (seriously?!), renamed an article to a typo (what is Talk:Shia Islam in Pakistan and India as onm supposed to mean?) and deleted massive amounts of content without any discussion on the article talk page. Please cease your disruptive editing or you will be facing a block in the near future. Make reasonable edits and discuss any major changes with other editors on the article talk page before you make them. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 02:55, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Dear Liz,

Thank you for correction. Is it ok to repeat things in two articles? Pakistan, Bangladesh and India are known as Indian subcontinent and they are strongly connected by History, and after partition in 1947, people migrated at mass scale carrying historical and cultural heritage to new geographic regions. I thought it would be better to discuss their past collectively and then discuss the post 1947 stuff in separate sections.

I had merged it into this:-

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shia_Islam_in_the_Indian_subcontinent

Best regards,

Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 07:20, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Copying within Wikipedia requires attribution
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Dear Diannaa 🍁 Thank you for your message. A great part of the content in history section was added by me when there used to be separate pages for Shia Islam in India and Shia Islam in Pakistan. I copied content before merging the page into "Shia Islam in the indian subcontinent" page, as it was a requirement for the merger. But Liz decided to undo the merger.

Thanks for letting me know how to attribute to pages which we copy from.

Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 18:32, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Shia Islam in India
Hi Dr. Hamza Ebrahim. I notice that you're copying a lot of information from Shia Islam in India to Shia Islam in the Indian subcontinent. It doesn't make much sense for two articles to contain largely the same material so I'm wondering if there is a good reason behind your duplication effort? Thanks. --regentspark (comment) 20:27, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Dear regentspark,

I have already explained the matter to two administrators on my talk page. Please give it a read.

Best regards,

Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 21:44, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Chak Dynasty concern
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Your draft article, Draft:Chak Dynasty


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Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (December 7)
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User:Dr. Hamza Ebrahim/sandbox


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Requesting some article expansion help
Greetings,

I was looking for article expansion help at articles like Islamic advice literature, Draft:Aurats (word) an article about historical linguistics and in article  several sections are in need of expansion. Please do visit those articles as and when time permits you and pl. do help in article expansions if those topics interest you.

Thanks and warm regards

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Copying within Wikipedia requires attribution (2nd request)
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I was the sole author.

Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 14:05, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Syed Shahryar Raza Abidi


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Nomination of Genocide of Kashmiri Shias for deletion
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 * Thanks to your initiative, I have spent more time on it and cited more references. I hope it meets wikipedia standards now.

Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 03:09, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

February 2021
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove an Articles for deletion notice or a comment from an AfD discussion, as you did at Genocide of Kashmiri Shias. Also don't remove maintenance templates on your own. — Amkgp 💬  10:59, 18 February 2021 (UTC)


 * I removed the tag after addressing the problems you pointed out.
 * Please check discussion here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Genocide_of_Kashmiri_Shias
 * Thank you for your time and comments that helped improve the credibility of this article.

Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 11:07, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , You have been already warned here for self removing templates etc. Now you also removed WP:AFD notice yourself. If you do again you will be blocked ! — Amkgp 💬  11:20, 18 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Dear, I have spent some more time on the article and I have cleaned up and added more sources to the text. Please have a look and remove the tags.

Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 14:49, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Only one issue remains. Let be there because its difficult to conclude unilaterally the viewpoint. It will not cause any problems. — Amkgp 💬  22:12, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Genocide of Kashmiri Shias § Genocide
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Genocide of Kashmiri Shias § Genocide. TrangaBellam (talk) 16:01, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Signing posts
Dear Dr. Hamza Ebrahim, when you sign posts, please add your signature at the end of the paragraph. Do not put it on a separate line as you have been doing at Talk:Destruction of Kashmiri Shias. It makes the talk discussion quite disorganised, without clarity on who is saying what. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:50, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

User:TrangaBellam
I have deleted the blank userpage which you created. Do it again and you will be indeffed. Do I make myself clear? Mjroots (talk) 19:29, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! I am new to Wikipedia. What is important about having a user page for User:TrangaBellam is to notice his vandalism and wikilawyering on other pages. He is doing a similar job at Hindu related pages as he did at the page I created about persecution of Kashmiri Shias. Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 19:36, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * You have nearly 1,500 edits over almost 2 years, you are not new to Wikipedia. Canterbury Tail talk 19:40, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Dr. Ebrahim, if you accuse another editor again of vandalism absent any actual proof —see what vandalism is not— I'm just going to sanction you without further warning. Please do better, because thus far, you are faltering. El_C 19:42, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

I didn't know any other way to find a user's edit past. If you have time, have a look at the page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_Kashmiri_Shias. Please take a look at the talk page too. Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 19:45, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


 * To find an editor's contributiona go to their user page or their talk page. Left side of page, under "Tools", third item down is "user contributions". Click on that and all will be revealed. Mjroots (talk) 19:57, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

When I click their name, I see this now: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:TrangaBellam

Anyway, now I can see their talk page. Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 20:23, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Discretionary sanctions alert (update)
El_C 19:35, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Please have a look at the page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_Kashmiri_Shias as an admin. I have cited sources and you should make sure that the work doesn't get wiped off. Please take a look at the context before making such decisions. Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 19:41, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry, again, I don't really intend on closely investigating any of these content disputes at this time. WP:DR is for that. El_C 19:44, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Mirza Husayn Tehrani
Hello Dr. Hamza Ebrahim,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Mirza Husayn Tehrani for deletion, because it seems to be copied from another source, probably infringing copyright.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to rewrite it in your own words, you can [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&action=edit&section=new&preload=Template:Hangon_preload&preloadtitle=This+page+should+not+be+speedy+deleted+because...+ contest this deletion], but don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks!

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John B123 (talk) 18:49, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Edit wearring
Please read wp:brd and WP:ONUS, it is down to you to get wp:consensus for addition, its not down to me to fix huge walls of text. Slatersteven (talk) 12:15, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your concerns. I have not finished yet. Please wait for me to clean up. Also meanwhile study about the topic so that you make informed edits.

Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 12:20, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

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Original research of unclear relevance
In this edit you added to Shia Islam in the Indian subcontinent the sentence "In the report, he [Hakim ibn Jabalah al-Abdi] described the region of today's Balouchistan as a difficult terrain with lawlessness and hard groundwater". For this, you cite Wolpert. Wolpert says "The Arab commander of the first Islamic force to reach India reported from Sind to his caliph in 644 that 'water is scarce ... and the robbers are bold'". Wolpert doesn't identify the commander as Hakim ibn Jabalah al-Abdi, and doesn't mention Balouchistan. The year 644 doesn't jibe with the year 649 given in the text leading into your addition, and scarce water is not "hard groundwater". If you're combining sources to say something that neither one says directly, that's original research, and is not allowed on Wikipedia.

Moreover, your addition doesn't make clear how his description of the land is relevant to the topic Shia Islam in the Indian subcontinent. Finally, you added the sentence between a description of how Hakim ibn Jabalah al-Abdi died and his poetry [something also added by you, on 11 January 2021]. What on earth is the relevance of his hagiographic verse to the history of Shia Islam in the Indian subcontinet? It appears wildly off topic. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:21, 24 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you.
 * Hakim came to modern day balouchistan in 644, during the period of 3rd Caliph. He died in 649 during the period of 4th Caliph. This was the period when Shia-Sunni split took shape, so it is important to add these details. His poetry testifies his being a Shia. Wolpert cited the same source that is cited by Maclean. Paragraph is written in light of many citations, making a whole picture in context.
 * Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 16:48, 24 June 2022 (UTC)


 * I don't doubt the basic facts - the who, where, when - as you've outlined them, but hope you understand that Wolpert doesn't support the details you believe are important, or the interpretations - that Hakim's report and poetry is important because it dates from the period of the Shia-Sunni split, and that his poetry testifies to him being a Shia. I am unconvinced by your statement that it is important to add these details, but will not further streamline the section until I've read Maclean, which may not be until November. Meanwhile, I invite you to rewrite the section plainly and directly with WP:TOPIC in mind. --Worldbruce (talk) 00:11, 25 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your time and interest.

Dr. Hamza Ebrahim (talk) 00:16, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

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