User talk:Dr vulpes/Archive2022

WP:NCORP-specific SA table script
I feel like a bit of a script kiddie based off the current version, but I've got a version of an NCORP-specific thing at User:Red-tailed hawk/SATG CORP.js. It currently does conflict with the standard SA table generator (I can't have both scripts loaded at once without both breaking), but it works when loaded alone. I'll have to dig a bit more in to get the NCORP-specific script to be loaded successfully at the same time as the standard SA table generator, but I'll keep you updated. —  Red-tailed hawk (nest) 05:51, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Azerbaijan dictator
Hello, Dr vulpes,

Just FYI but on the article for Ilham Aliyev, it is mentioned several times that some people see him as a dictator. I think this is a discussion for RFD where editors can offer arguments and discuss the issue rather than a case for speedy deletion as this redirect has been around for a while. But I'm not going to untag it twice, I'll let another admin respond. Liz Read! Talk! 23:14, 25 September 2022 (UTC)


 * It's also important for you to notify Buidhe that a page they created has been tagged for deletion. Liz Read! Talk! 23:16, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah you're right @Liz, sorry about that. I'm still a little blah with all the rules around living people. Thanks for reaching out, I'll be more conservative with my nominations in the future.  Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 00:40, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Los Beat 4
Hello, Dr vulpes,

Once again, you shouldn't be closing AFD discussions that you start unless you withdraw your nomination. If you change your mind about an AFD nomination, please make a actual statement saying you are withdrawing your nomination. Without doing this, it's a clear conflict-of-interest. No one "voting" on an AFD or making a nomination should be closing a discussion unless a) you say that you have withdrawn your nomination (actually stating this) and b) there are no editors advocating "Delete". If even one editor is advocating a different option that "Keep", you can't close a discussion early.

I've noticed that you have recently closed several AFDs that you started. You might look at this reflectively and consider whether or not you are making good judgment about which articles to suggest be deleted because not all of your nominations have the support of your fellow editors. It's better to be judicious about selecting the least promising articles, it's about quality of nominations, not quantity. Thank you again for all of your work on the project. Liz Read! Talk! 02:34, 27 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Here's some good examples of what I'm talking about Articles for deletion/Baptist Church of Christ, Articles for deletion/Touch Typist Typing Tutor and Articles for deletion/Harry Percival Vete. Liz Read! Talk! 02:38, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Question about upgrading article status
Hey Dr. Got something to bring to your attention. After looking over Disappointment Lake, I found the WikiProject: Lakes. I was looking over the material, and saw that there were 2 articles that were rated as "stubs", yet considered "top importance" to the project. So I looked into one of them - Underground Lakes. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underground_lake)

Long story short, I've attempted an overhaul of that article to try and upgrade it from Stub-class. How do I go about requesting a review of its classification? If you could take a look at the article, do you think it's any better than a stub-class now?

Thanks, --PhotogenicScientist (talk) 18:38, 29 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hey @PhotogenicScientist, check out the assessment guidelines and then change the class value on the talk page. You can find all the variables for the template on it's documentation page. Just go ahead and change the value as you see if and the system will update the WikiProject Lakes page automatically.  Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 21:30, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Question from Tshikalange Zweautonda Mario (16:06, 2 October 2022)
Hi how can I add news on Wikipedia ? --Tshikalange Zweautonda Mario (talk) 16:06, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

ARBCOM decision
I noticed you have signed up to be a volunteer on this year's election. Wish you luck! Sarrail (talk) 18:50, 4 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks! :-)  Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 20:02, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Question from Lordpreciousmeterston1 (08:33, 6 October 2022)
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September drive bling

 * Thanks it was a lot of fun looking forward to the next one!  Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 21:06, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Streets Lights in New Zealand has been accepted
 Streets Lights in New Zealand, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the  [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_talk/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Streets_Lights_in_New_Zealand help desk] . Once you have made at least 10 edits and had an account for at least four days, you will have the option to create articles yourself without posting a request to Articles for creation.

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Thanks again, and happy editing!  Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 11:13, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Mary Ridge
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:03, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Category:Lichen without a short description
Hello, Dr vulpes,

This category was just tagged for CSD C1 speedy deletion for being an empty category and I thought you probably didn't receive a notice so here is one. Liz Read! Talk! 19:16, 13 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks @Liz, I was really confused for a second there and then I realized that people went though and fixed the articles. Happened a lot faster than I expected! https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peltigera_neckeri&type=revision&diff=1115770613&oldid=1115768612&diffmode=source https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Haematomma_ochroleucum&type=revision&diff=1115795252&oldid=1115768726&diffmode=source  Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 22:33, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

AfD closure
Whilst looking for pages to review for NPP I just stumbled across Articles for deletion/Albert Sack and wanted to flag that given you'd !voted, you shouldn't really have also closed it as per WP:NACINV. -Kj cheetham (talk) 12:36, 16 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hey @Kj cheetham, just wanted to make sure I didn't screw this up because I've messed up on closing AfDs before. I thought it was ok to close the AfD because I withdrew the nomination as per WP:WDAFD. It's still a bit early in the morning so if I'm missing something obvious that's my bad.  Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 17:01, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, To be honest it's partly my mistake that I didn't notice you were also the nominator! It wasn't clear at all to me you were withdrawing, as you'd marked your !vote like a regular "keep" - I'd recommend making it more obvious in the future (as per WP:WDAFD). In any case, that should have been a speedy keep close as per WP:CSK #1, ideally clarifying in the closing statement the reason. Keep up the good work overall though! -Kj cheetham (talk) 17:07, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Yeah I realized that I needed to put the "withdrawn by nominator" line in there literally in the next AfD of mine I closed. Thanks for nudging me towards the correct way of doing things.  Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 17:34, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Source assessment table
Hey! I noticed that you added a "source assessment table" as part of your rationale at an AFD. Mind telling me where you found this (or if you just created it right then and there)? I really like how it basically summarized the source based on the 3 main guidelines, independent, reliable, and significant coverage. I'd say it would actually really help show whether or not an article is truly notable based on the sources per WP:GNG. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:16, 17 October 2022 (UTC)


 * o yeah I only saw this recently and fell in love, it's hard to be nit picky when it's all laid out like that. It's the Source assess table template and I use the userscript from DannyS712 to help fill it out. User:Red-tailed hawk has also made a script for WP:NCORP.  Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 21:03, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Just as a heads up, there is a known bug with my script that it sometimes completely breaks both itself and the userscript from DannyS712 when both are installed. I tend to uninstall/re-install the appropriate script as-needed. —  Red-tailed hawk (nest) 23:14, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the headsup. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 23:16, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

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Draft:Hispasat 1A
You requested a redirect be deleted to accept this draft four days ago but never followed through. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:52, 19 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Whoops thanks for the ping! Will do now.  Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 03:04, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Auto-add IUCN status?
I spoke to the IUCN a while ago and they'd be okay having their redlist statuses auto-added to the infobox of articles. I see you are interested in plant statuses; is this something you'd be interested in? HLHJ (talk) 03:32, 16 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Yeah that would be something that I would be interested in helping out with and would be a really useful addition. I was going to do with the the TNC statuses using a bot so I wrote a request for that but during that discussion it was suggested that I write a Lua module to do it so it could be added to the Autotaxbox and update the ~250k articles that way instead of having a bot check for updates and have to comb over the articles again. Any ideas on how to best move forward? I was thinking about trying to maybe update the data over at wikipseices and link them that way but I've never done this sort of thing before so I'm a little lost. As of right now I can access the IUCN api and pull down the information about we need, it's just the next step of getting it in the articles that has me a bit stumped.  Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 03:42, 16 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the links. I see what you mean. The data would need to be accessed by the Speciesbox template, but it can't go in the taxonomy template pages (e.g. Template:Taxonomy/Ectopistes) like the Autotaxbox data, as redlist data is at the species level, not any higher taxon. Shall I post a query to the Autotaxbox discussion about where best to put it? That seems like the next step, since you can pull the needed info. Then there's reformatting the data to be transferred, setting up a bot to do that reformatting/editing, and making an edit to the Speciesbox template to draw on the new data. That all seems doable, once we know where the data goes.
 * It would also be good to automatically add things to the subcats of Category:Endangered species by reason they are threatened. That might be harder, depending on the IUCN API. Does it have machine-readable reasons-why-threatened? HLHJ (talk) 23:27, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Question from Shehab Ali Khan Yousafzai (07:31, 20 October 2022)
hello. this is my first day here. i want to write in a biography details of my self. how to proceed please.? --Shehab Ali Khan Yousafzai (talk) 07:31, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

What is an R programmer?
could you create programs, and like...work developing software tools in phabricator?  Atsme 💬 📧 12:59, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

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Question from Music Academy Marketing (22:33, 24 October 2022)
Hi - I need to change the title of the page from Music Academy of the West to just Music Academy as we have gone through a rebrand - can you help? --Music Academy Marketing (talk) 22:33, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: SJ (rapper) (October 27)
<div style="border: solid 1px #F99; background-color: #F8EEBC; padding: 0.5em 1em; color: #000; margin: 1.5em; width: 90%;"> Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Draft:SJ_(rapper) Articles for creation help desk] or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Dr vulpes was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia.

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 * O Dr vulpes, you sly fox you, you managed to not notice the reject option this entire time. Good for you!  Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 01:57, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

I'm confused
Why did you turn in your user right? You went through the school, your performance has been outstanding - I just don't get it. <span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.2em 0.2em,#BFFF00 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em;color:#A2006D"> Atsme 💬 📧 12:05, 28 October 2022 (UTC)


 * O no I only gave up autopatrolled not new page patrol! I'm still doing my part to keep the backlog down . I only requested it because I wanted to write a few hundred stubs on lichen and didn't want to add to the backlog. Since asking for the permission I've maybe written 10 articles on that topic.  Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 17:37, 28 October 2022 (UTC)


 * I wasn't sure if you were pulling a Halloween prank since it's not April. 😂 <span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.2em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.2em 0.2em,#BFFF00 0.4em 0.4em 0.5em;color:#A2006D"> Atsme 💬 📧 18:01, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
 * It sure seems like I gave you a fright so it's on theme! But yeah I didn't want to just collect a bunch of hats that I wouldn't be using. Same with my other permissions, if I find myself not using them (and I notice!) I'll try and give them back. I think it's just a good general practice. It also keeps me mindful of my work here, I need to at least try to do a few AfCs a month, gotta check the pending changes backlog every now and then, etc etc.  Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 19:35, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

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Question from Billesleygriffo on Lilian Braithwaite (18:21, 4 November 2022)
How can I add a photo of Lillian Braithwaite to the article? I have come across an old postcard of her from her early acting days from the Marcus Ward's series - beauty's daughters no. 6 --Billesleygriffo (talk) 18:21, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

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Question about article existence criteria
Hey @Dr vulpes. I'm puzzling over an issue that I can't seem to figure out, and I was wondering if you could provide an opinion on the matter.

In looking at two articles, Amoriguard and Cenocell, a general assessment leads me to believe they could be deleted. The articles themselves have a few notable problems:


 * They're both stub-size, and have very few reliable sources
 * They're both written in non-neutral language, and have major contributions from users who have documented Conflicts of Interest
 * They don't really convey the notability of their subject on reading

Looking outside the article content itself, I see more reasons they may not deserve their own articles:


 * Web searches for each turn up very few results - their total online presence appears to be a few scientific papers, manufacturer advertisements/blogs, and local news stories that mention them
 * The article doesn't appear to meet notability guidelines in WP:N
 * There are a couple things the article is, that Wikipedia doesn't allow, like WP:NOTADVERT WP:NOTTEXTBOOK

And yet, I'm not confident these articles can or should be deleted:


 * A request for speedy deletion was rejected by an admin
 * The article subjects get at least one mention by a news source

What do you think could be done in a situation like this? PhotogenicScientist (talk) 15:08, 17 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Hey @PhotogenicScientist,
 * I would just send it to AfD with a review of the sources. The articles author also authored the article on the inventor of these products and hasn't been active since. If these products/inventions were notable then there would be a lot more stuff about them. For example if you search Google scholar for "concrete replacement fly ash" you find a lot of hits even for properties of unique types of concrete. So with Cenocell there should be a lot more information about it than just a patent and a press release. I can't find an academic article or conference publication that talks about it or the process for making it. I also checked the authors and didn't see anything that would look like it might be about Cenocell. I don't hold patents very high when establishing notability, anyone can get one. I ran into the same roadblocks with Amoriguard. Everything I found about it was related to the company and not to it's invention or manufacturing process. There is a Forbes Africa article that mentions in passing but that's not a source that is normally viewed as reliable. I think it might be a good idea to ask someone over at WP:ENGINEERING or WikiProject Civil engineering. Since I'm not a civil engineer there's a slight chance that these are notable and we just don't know enough about the subject to know where to look to find sources.
 *  Dr vulpes  (💬 • 📝) 23:09, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Wikiprojects seem a bit daunting to understand... it seems each project is organized a little differently, so I'm not sure where at WP:ENGINEERING would be the best place to start a discussion like this. I checked that project's talk page, but it seems pretty dead.
 * I guess AfD would be the next step. I'm also a bit wary of wading into that, though - I'm not sure what kind of quality is expected of submissions. Do you think what I've written above would make a sufficient submission? PhotogenicScientist (talk) 14:24, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from HockeyOracle on South Africa men's national field hockey team (16:49, 28 November 2022)
Hello I accidentally deleted a whole form template with loads of info by mistake How do I undo? --HockeyOracle (talk) 16:49, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from BTWEEDY (18:07, 28 November 2022)
Who were the wives of Thomas Forster of Adderstone (1659-1725) --BTWEEDY (talk) 18:07, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

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Who were the wives of Thomas Forster of Adderstone(1659- 1725). --BTWEEDY (talk) 18:10, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of 3Y0J Bouvet Island DXpedition
Hello! Your submission of 3Y0J Bouvet Island DXpedition at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 01:45, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Dr vulpes, the nomination has been marked for closure as unsuccessful; if you wish to save it, you'll need to respond there right away before it's closed. Best of luck! BlueMoonset (talk) 15:44, 22 December 2022 (UTC)