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 * 1) This User joined WikiProject Colorado Draconrex (talk) 00:34, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * 2) This User joined Wikipedia:United States Education Program Draconrex (talk) 21:45, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

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Speak your peace, while there be amiable response.Draconrex (talk) 18:19, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

I thank all who have spoken their peace here as yet. I know its still early, but it appears we are getting off to good start.

Draconrex (talk) 21:30, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
Dloh cierekim  18:37, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

See note on RJensen re Ambassadors
I added a comment to your question of RJensen on his user page --Mike Cline (talk) 17:32, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Re treasure mountain
Good start. I made a few additions to show you the kinds of things that will improve a geography article. First I added and sourced coordinates from the geonames database. It is probably the most accurate source out there. I added the colorado nav template at the bottom and used the convert template on the elevation. I am traveling and didnt get to figure out what mountain range this mountain is in, but it isnt Treasure Mountain as there is no range by that name in Colorado. Go ahead an add categories before you go live. Once that is done, i'll help you get it moved to the article space. At that time, the article name will become Treasure Mountain (Gunnison County, Colorado), because there are two other Treasure Mountain's in Colorado. --Mike Cline (talk) 18:28, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Re Bibliography of Gunnison County
Take a look at WikiProject Bibliographies. this article definitely needs some sourcing and the project guidelines may give you some ideas. --Mike Cline (talk) 18:39, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Topographic prominence
This bears research into summits and independence of mountains and their peaks. Draconrex (talk) 03:01, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Take care to avoid Original Research
Draconrex, one of the principles that new Wikipedians must learn early on is that WP as a tertiary source, as an encyclopedia, does not incorporate Original Research into its articles. This principle is especially important for Ambassadors to understand, since they must teach it to faculty and students new to WP. For anyone who has done scholarly work or written for journals and other historical publications, this principle can be a little difficult to grasp early on. Simply put, when content is written into WP, the facts, information and conclusions within that content should have already been published somewhere in a secondary or primary source. As a WP editor, you should not be drawing any conclusions about a subject not already published by another source. Whenever you are adding content to a WP article, you should always be asking yourself, “What source(s) supports these statements?” If you are writing statements that in effect are your personal conclusions and interpretation of sources, then you are engaging in OR.

Let’s take the Treasure Mountain article draft as an example. Using a map as a source is perfectly fine, although care must be taken not to look at the map and draw conclusions that the map actually doesn’t say. That’s why I added the GNIS source to the article. When I was examining the article, I discovered that Treasure Mountain and Treasury Mountain are actually two separate peaks on a massif, not alternate names. . You looked a map and drew a conclusion (OR) that in this case was not correct. (Don’t worry, we’ve all done it). Following up a bit, I found a number of sources that would have revealed the error and provided interesting information on the history of the mountain, most notably the lost gold legends that could be used in the article. ,, , ,.

My point here is to always find sources for what you write in WP and avoid making your own conclusions about what they say. By doing that, you will never fall afoul of WP:OR. Keep up the good work. --Mike Cline (talk) 09:42, 10 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Glad I could be of some help. Another thing you should start doing as it is a great habit to convey to students and teachers is the use of WP citation templates.  They really make documenting references much easier, and if you use them from the get go, another editor doesn't have to come along and convert you bare URLs in the citations. See Citation_templates. --Mike Cline (talk) 22:22, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK Nomination for Treasure Mountain (Colorado)

 * Re:Treasury Mountain. That was a typo in the DYK nom, I fixed it. --Mike Cline (talk) 20:56, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Treasure Mountain (Colorado)
Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

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Draconrex (talk) 02:54, 15 October 2012 (UTC)



Still here, just busy
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Retention of editors after periods of contributions and then seemingly dissappear.

I have been busy with life after 50. However, I plan on yet another 50 years. I'll be back later.Draconrex (talk) 16:08, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Western State Colorado University Mountaineers for deletion
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