User talk:DragonflySixtyseven/Archive29

ASAL technologies
Hi. Can you explain why you deleted the article about ASAL technologies? It is one of the biggest hightech companies in the Palestinian National Authority.Ofir michael (talk) 12:47, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Because you didn't say anything about that. You said, it was founded in 2000, it has employees, it's located in Ramallah, it "provides software and business outsourcing solutions". And that's it. Zero references except for what the company says about itself. You're welcome to try again, but first read our guidelines on notability for businesses. DS (talk) 16:04, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I strongly disagree. There are literally thousands of article in the same condition, or worse. The fact is, that even if I didn't write anything significant about it, it is still one of the biggest high tech companies in the Palestinian National Authority. In addition, you deleted it without any discussion. No "completion" template. Please bring the article back, or at the very least, restore it as draft.Ofir michael (talk) 07:41, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * "There are thousands of articles in the same condition, or worse, so you should leave mine up" is equivalent to "there are unflushed toilets, so I don't need to flush either". Maybe it is one of the biggest tech companies in the PNA, but you said precisely zero about that. Here is your unfinished draft; I look forward to seeing the completed version when it's ready. DS (talk) 15:18, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Calm down.Ofir michael (talk) 07:28, 8 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi. I do not know either either of you but I do understand the frustration,  Usually the comments on articles refer us to things we, at least I, have already read.  As you referred the writer here to the guidelines.  The guidelines use a lot of jargon and are hard to understand.  You might rather ask if the person understood "X" found in the guidelines,  They may have read the guidelines and not have gotten it.  That has happened to me sometimes when the guidelines lack clarity.  Thank you both and all the editors and administrators for providing such a great encyclopedia.

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A. & L. Tirocchi Gowns
Hi. I received a message saying that you had left a review on my article, but I can't find it. Any help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Klibes (talk • contribs) 19:27, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

Vandalic user: PedrixCake
Hello, recently a user called PedrixCake has been writing vandalic messages on my talk page, he doesn't stop and I am tired of his vandalics edits on my talk page. Thanks for your attention. LuxDavid June, 6, 2019

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Monetary/fiscal policy debate
Thanks for the correction of the title. I've been on Wikipedia for quite some time, but I'm still learning the ropes. Real life annoyingly keeps getting the way! And I was not aware of the relevant rule. To make a long story short, this is just a friendly tip since I believe contributors, and especially new ones, appreciate links to whatever we're referring. Thanks for your efforts, again, and keep up the good work. Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 13:12, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Filename change
Hi. Pretty sure file renaming was unnecessary, and therefore shouldn't have been done. Am I missing something? —  Film Fan  21:53, 5 April 2018 (UTC)


 * What you're missing is that the filename was horribly misleading and inaccurate. When I look at "Hickok.png", I expect to see Dewey K. Hickok, or Lorena Hickok, or maybe the city hall in Hickok, Kansas.


 * When you name a file, consider: if someone else uploads a file with the exact same name, will it still show the same basic thing? Or will your article about a movie suddenly have a photo of a 19th-century philosopher and theologian in its infobox?


 * This really happens. People really do use filenames that are already in use, and they click through the warning messages without paying attention. Think about not just what people should do, but what they actually do. Minimize ambiguity, maximize usability by humans. DS (talk) 00:38, 6 April 2018 (UTC)


 * If anyone is really that stupid, surely they don't last long. —  Film Fan  10:21, 6 April 2018 (UTC)


 * You'd be surprised. DS (talk) 12:49, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Bengal famine of 1943 is Bengal famine of 1943
Bengal famine of 1943 is Bengal famine of 1943 Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 05:08, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Pashto
Hello DS. You send me a message saying that you want to translate what you say in pashto. You can just type what you want to say to that person and i will translate. Regards Zayyam123 (talk) 14:06, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Pashto
د قانوني دلیلونو لپاره، هغه انځورونه چې تاسو یې سپارلي یاست د منلو وړ ندي. کاپی حقایق دی، او هغه انځورونه چې تاسو یوازې په ویب پاڼو کې موندلی وي تقریبا هیڅکله سم نه دي حتی که دوی مهم خلک وي موږ باید له منځه یوسو اوبخښه مهرباني وکړئ نور پورته پورته م

I cant write pashto in wikipedia so i just copied it. The translation is fully correct. You can just copy it. Zayyam123 (talk) 08:07, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Rsocket
I saw you recently reviewed my draft. If you have the time, take a look at my recent effort and let me know what you think,. The 6th Floor (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:12, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Sir, My name is Natraj B. I am tried to add my grand father Rao Sahib S.Anantha Narayana Sastry's name on 29.3.2018.This edit was deleted by the admin. I can upload the citation as proof. Please advise how I do this. Thought this is the minimum I can do for my grand father. Thanks
 * Is it published anywhere? DS (talk) 20:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:John Howard Pyle (1906 - 1987).jpg
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Redirects
Is there a way to check for damaged redirects? And apologies for the typo on the last edit summary (should have read "repaired"ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:14, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

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Confederate monuments
I was hoping you comment on a matter at the Removal of Confederate monuments and memorials talk page.--MagicatthemovieS

Reversal of edits
I've reversed your entry trimming of 3/6/18 on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LGBT-themed_speculative_fiction for the following reasons: The page as it stood before your edit was an extremely useful resource of small press authors with LGBT characters in their work. Speaking as an LGBT reader, this was the only reliable way to find most of these authors - there is a shortage of any reliable online resource that lists LGBT speculative literature, and due to being a marginalised group many significant or important writers do not as yet have their own Wikipedia pages. I would appreciate it if you could leave the non-bluelinked entries present unless there is another reason they are not relevant to the page.
 * The problem is, what's the distinction between 'small press' and, say, a webcomic, or a fanfic, or a story someone posted on their blog? Where's the dividing line? You're welcome to, for instance, start a Wikia indexing such works, and even to include a link to that Wikia on the List article. DS (talk) 13:05, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I have independently verified all the entries without bluelinks as belonging to independent small publishers, not self-published, and with ASINs or ISBNs. They are not equivalent to webcomics, fanfics, etc. The dividing line is clear, and I don't see why it requires an external wiki that would be no more verifiable than my comments here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.147.217.70 (talk) 20:20, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
 * And will you keep doing that forever, and ensure that nobody else adds promotional material for their barely-relevant scribblings, and explain to everyone the difference? DS (talk) 21:12, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree with DragonflySixtyseven that items listed on this article should be limited. The usual limit that's imposed are items that are notable or have their own Wikipedia article or at least a dedicated section of the book or media's Wikipedia article. Otherwise, the list would most likely become exhaustively large and to the point where nobody can obtain usable content from it - let alone be able to verify that each item in the list is accurate and true.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   22:18, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Edward Frost Parker
Hello. Could you please let me know what Edward Frost Parker's looked like? He may be notable as the former dean of the Medical University of South Carolina. Please ping me when you reply. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 20:08, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
 * The original version of the article — the one I deleted back in 2009 — said "A REAL DOUCHE" several times, and nothing else. If you can write a real article about Mr Parker, go ahead. DS (talk) 21:44, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. To be honest, I've only found very short obituaries, so I will wait until I can find more later possibly.Zigzig20s (talk) 06:51, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

My edit deleted
Hi. I added an edit on Rao Bahadur page. My grand father received one so added it. Why the heck did you edit and delete it? If you were not born during that time to verify it - how am I supposed to be blamed for that? No wonder dimwits in schools quote Wikipedia as a source of their knowledge. Subhasishghosh2017 (talk) 12:20, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
 * All edits to Wikipedia need reliable sourcing to published references - your edit gave no source. That's what keeps Wikipedia verifiable, and it's required by policy. Unsourced edits may be removed at an time, so that Wikipedia content can be checked, and so that it doesn't become something used only by dimwits in school.  Acroterion   (talk)   12:26, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
 * There was a big warning on the page that said "DO NOT add a person to this list UNLESS a) there is already a Wikipedia article about that person, or b) you supply the URL of a reliable, independent source to support your assertion that the person was awarded the Rao Bahadur. If you add a person to this list without complying with either of those conditions, then that person WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE LIST." Your addition did not meet either the first criterion or the second. So it was removed from the list. Do you have any published sources about your grandather's RB? If you do... good! Include them! DS (talk) 13:23, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

A1 (Newcastle upon Tyne)
I note you've reviewed my new article "A1 (Newcastle upon Tyne)". Can this be restored to being a main page now? and taken out of drafts  There is literally nothing more I can do with this article.(talk) 10.35, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Satchmo
Hello DragonflySixtyseven and thanks for reviewing the article "Satchmo at the Waldorf." My question is: does it need to be transfered or moved so the title shows in italics because it is the title of a play? If that's the case, would you kindly help me with that? (I'm not an administrator). Thank you. Tortillovsky (talk) 00:10, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Uniworld Business Publications
Hello DragonflySixtyseven and thanks so much for taking the time to review the draft "Draft:Uniworld Business Publications." I didn't see any further comments on how to improve the article, does that mean that it is ready to be published? If so, is that something I can do or is that something that needs to be managed by an administrator? Thanks so much! BHoepner (talk) 13:41, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
 * You need to submit the draft for review. That has not been done. I advise you to do two things first, though:
 * publicly disclose that you are being paid. There is a template you can put on your user page. See WP:PAID for instructions. This is a legal requirement to which you agreed when you created your account.
 * read Golden rule for a brief overview of what is expected before an article about a company can be accepted for publication. Right now you would be wasting a reviewer's time if you submitted it. You really need to add citations to reliable independent sources that provide significant coverage of the company.
 * Hope that helps. ~Anachronist (talk) 21:12, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Spelling of Struldbrugg (edit offered by me (robertz466) but rejected
The spelling used in the so-called Faulkner edition, done with Swift's supervision, in 1735, is "Struldbrugg." That is the spelling that one finds in the Norton Critical Edition's "Authoritative Text" (The Writings of Jonathan Swift, ed. Robert A. Greenberg and William B. Piper). As far as Project Gutenberg texts are concerned, they are not subject to strict editorial scrutiny, so it can happen that a less than completely scholarly definitive edition is on offer there. Even the Cliffs Notes uses the correct double "g" spelling. In addition, the Oxford World Classics edition cited in your article on "Luggnagg" also uses the correct double "g" spelling. Robertz466 (talk) 17:48, 30 July 2018 (UTC) In my incorrigible pedantry, I would rather see "sometimes incorrectly spelled "Struldbrug"," but I shall defer to your editorial experience and judgment.Robertz466 (talk) 02:49, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Cogo Labs
Hi DragonflySixtyseven, I noticed you made some edits for EverQuote. Out of interest, I have created a draft for Cogo Labs, which incubated EverQuote: Draft:Cogo Labs. I was wondering if you may be able to expand or edit the draft for more information and better quality, prior to submission. It seemed ideal to contact you since you have made edits to EverQuote. Best, Blue.painting (talk) 23:34, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Ansar Hassan
Hi DragonflySixtyseven, I submitted my article for review and they rejected it I need some time to expand it and to add more references and links in it. Thank you Haider Irfan (talk) 19:21, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Categories
I don't usually mess with categories, as they is to be very confusing to me. One "rule" I thought I understood was that parent and grandparent categories shouldn't be placed on the same pages with the child/grandchild category. Apparently I'm wrong. However, one of the categories involved is Category:Aerospace companies, where you made a comment on it's talk page that leads me to believe I was right in my original assumption. Can you give any clarifications, or should I just go back to ignoring categories again? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 08:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks. Do you know of a good person to ask? - ~ BilCat (talk) 17:25, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Verification
How does one verify who won the Palme d’Or, Cannes Film Festival (1975)? Zuzulisa (talk) 17:53, 15 September 2018 (UTC)


 * A Google search...  -  FlightTime  ( open channel ) 18:00, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Scandinavian Law article
Hey there! I'd like to write an article on Scandinavian law but saw that you had previously deleted an article with this name back in 2007. I was wondering why you had done so and if it may be an issue if I were to write on the topic. Please let me know!

Thanks :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sv.oles (talk • contribs) 05:53, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Timebinding explained
On your maintenance page, you have this link for timebinding. Can you explain this a little bit. Been doing bunches of maintenance tasks and interested in this one. Would we change things like this "Philosophy and Geography'' was founded in 1997 by Andrew Light, a philosopher currently at George Mason University, and Jonathan Smith a geographer at Texas A&M" from currently to as of x date ect?

Also it is pretty clear there a people going in and adding sources with uta intentionally. They are doing it from a variety of IP's and usernames. It is pretty easy to see since they do it in an obvious pattern (after you have corrected like 500). Can we setup a warning for that domain name? It seems like a decent source though. You can look at my recent edit history with all the airports and see one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Archersbobsburgers (talk • contribs) 14:31, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

DS thanks for the clarification on that. Far as the stripping tags yes I meant UTM. Take a look at these. There are dozens maybe more from the same site with the same "incorrect" UTM that looks like it was organized to be that way. Thanks for you maintenance list. You can see have I have worked on it lots. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Daegu_International_Airport&diff=prev&oldid=860839094 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kumamoto_Airport&diff=prev&oldid=860839107 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Los_Cabos_International_Airport&diff=prev&oldid=860839037 Archersbobsburgers (talk) 16:55, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

Thirteen years of adminship
Wishing DragonflySixtyseven a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Chris Troutman ( talk ) 01:56, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Donna Strictland importance
Over in Talk:Donna Strickland you wrote to me last week:
 * "Unknown-importance" = "the importance has not yet been assessed by a human". Do you want to do that assessment?

If you read my full comment, I explained how I looked for how to assess the importance and could not find it:
 * When I look at the project page for that, I see one of the tasks you can do to help is rate articles, but I don't see a link to guidelines for such. I'm a long time, but infrequent, wikipedia editor. I cannot keep up with all of the changes in policy.

I note you didn't provide any helpful links should I have wanted to, but a week later and someone else has done that now. I do feel sympathy for User:Campbpt0. The last red link page I created was nominated for speedy deletion, too, even with three references. (It did not get deleted and stands a year later. But ho-boy, that was irksome.) --Elijah (talk) 04:57, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

image extraction
What a beautiful book you are researching, nice find! I am having a play around with a page extracted from the all files link at IA. The are zipped packages, but I just get each page by using the number in the viewing url and clicking 'view contents'. Just a tip on something I was doing tonight, hope it is helpful and clear. cygnis insignis 16:39, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Murdernova98‎
Pointless posting to him. He has never once responded in any manner other than to redo undone edits. You may as well threaten to block a Labrador from editting. --Falcadore (talk) 11:03, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Name Change-Cappy Burnside
I understand why you might do this; he's referred to as "Cappy" throughout the article. However, his full name is in newspaper articles, public plaques that bear his name, on signs on either side of a bridge that bear his full name. Most people did call him "Cappy"--even those who didn't know him. That was years ago and many of those people are gone (I've discovered this as I researched this). Would it be better if I change references to him in the article from "Cappy" or "Cappy Burnside" to just "Burnside" (except where it's needed for clarity). For encyclopedic value, I think the article should bear his full name (thousands of people pass a sign every day with that name and wonder who he was--it would be easiest for them to find him). With that said, what do you think?
 * Re your comment on my user page: Thank you. I appreciate the explanation. It makes perfect sense now and I agree. Will do redirect using straight quotes. (Mountaineer 15:17, 17 October 2018 (UTC))  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Appl atcha (talk • contribs)

I just saw your comment on my user page. I agree with you. I thought this would be cut-and-dry simple. It isn't, and new sources keep rolling in. I worked this into an editing note, but I'm happy to address an admin directly. I will probably take some of the "overview" information and work it into subsequent sections that are most relevant to the subject. The citations are important and relevant to the next sections so it's a way for me to keep them. I feel I'm writing this backwards and trying desperately to finish. Much of section content about the FBI overview and the Harrison County economic rise and fall--superfluous information--will be removed. Thanks for your comments and help and I hope this meets Wikipedia standards within a few days. (Mountaineer 14:25, 17 October 2018 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Appl atcha (talk • contribs)

Re your comment on my talk page regarding tildes (and additional comment--your assistance is appreciated): I have been using four tildes (~x4) but it signs "Mountaineer" and SineBot subsequently autosigns it. Am I doing something wrong? This is my second account and I think my previous account also signed "Mountaineer"--not certain, though. Maybe something is wrong or I'm doing something wrong. I typed tildes with my previous account and there were no problems. I need to solve this--let me know if I need to consult someone else or if I'm doing something terribly wrong. Thanks for the comments. I'm always open to help/constructive criticism. I haven't done any significant work on Wikipedia for a long time (just a few edits) and standards have been raised considerably. That is excellent, but I'm learning the new MOS and still make mistakes. As I mentioned in an earlier comment, this article is evolving but with heavy editing should be much better in a few days (but I'm always open to editing/comments). I hope to do more writing under the new (to me) guidelines, and I learn every time someone points something out. Thank you. If I have a signature issue, I need to solve it. I'm typing four tildes after the colon and a space; please see what happens: Mountaineer 17:32, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Re your response: Thanks--I'll check my settings and I didn't know about the Village Pump--think I can sort things out there. Thanks again for your help. Mountaineer 19:29, 17 October 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Appl atcha (talk • contribs)
 * I think it's solved. Thanks again! Appl atcha (talk) 20:21, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Edits on Cappy Burnside page apprciated
Just a quick shout out to you—-thanks! You got to it before I did but it needed to be done. I don't know where else to say this but since you're an admin, the background info has helped me write the most important sections (regarding the subject). I'm doing those offline, but I'll clean them up in my sandbox. I plan to pull selected info from the previous two background sections and edit them as much as possible (if I can comfortably work them into another section, even better). I haven't removed any large parts of those sections for a reason; there are three pages that, with work, could use that information: Clarksburg, West Virginia, Harrison County, West Virginia, and FBI Criminal Justice Information Services Division (which I updated with more recent information, but as the largest division of the FBI, could use some expansion IMO). I don't want to do away with those sections until I use all I need for this article and I'll cut/paste what I think might be useful for other pages into a document for further development. I plan to finish all sections of Cappy Burnside by the end of the weekend, maybe before. Thanks for your help. Appl atcha (talk) 00:20, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Vurrath
I'm not pretending that intemperate edit summaries are supposed to be acceptable, so please do suppress. Next time Vurrath gets going with his stream-of-consciousness TL;DRs, I shall refer the thing to you and and your equanimity to deal with, because honestly I'm not cut out to humour his productions. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 16:56, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

User:Edukum
Although blocked, still spamming their talk page. Cheers, ——  SerialNumber  54129  15:48, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Mallow's source edit
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Best adminstator on Wikipedia
Thank you so much for being so patient and helping me with my queries! Never met an administrator so patient and helpful not only towards me, but also to the rest of the users! Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guobin2 (talk • contribs) 18:29, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Talkback!

 * Was there ever any follow up on this strange item? - Ahunt (talk) 16:55, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Bomsori Kim
Hello. Can you please undelete all revisions of the page? It’s related to this SPI. am puzzled about certain IPv6 and the timestamp “December 4, 05:10” visible at simple:Special:Log/Tseung kang 99 – did all this come from the deleted en. revisions? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 16:36, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

I am requesting to take down reference to the IRC channel at Questions
For your information, please see: Village pump (idea lab)/Archive 27

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Thanks
Thanks for your efforts to help with the draft biography concerning Virginia colonial history, and good Yule! Yngvadottir (talk) 08:03, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
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File:Matlock Rose.jpeg
I must admit I never got round to checking the user's claims - User_talk:Ronhjones/Archive_33 - at the time, and never got round to going back to it. Ron h jones (Talk) 15:09, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

User:NavjotSR/Mitra Samaj
Mitra Samaj was deleted via a deletion discussion here. Userifying it sort of amounts to a violation of WP:G4. Please delete it. Regards. << FR 06:03, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm giving the user some time to improve it. If he ultimately can't, I'll delete it again. As it stands, I see no harm in letting him try. DS (talk) 06:09, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay << FR 06:18, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Quislet for deletion
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Re-submission draft with additional sources
Hello Dragon, Just made some few changes on the draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mr_Puaz please have a look and let me know if it is now well. Thank youNdizibanana (talk) 08:19, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Bob Edmonds for deletion
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Thanks

 * Thanks for the concern and wishes. I really appreciate them. If you know anyone who has a cancer, Ask them to test PD-L1, not sure what it is, but it is a cellular test and if you test positive, then you are  a candidate for Keytruda (Brand name Pembrolizumab) it is an expensive treatment and you really need good insurance. I started out with a brain tumor, detected because I had left side blindness (tumor pressing on right occipital), they excised the tumor and some tissue with it (unavoidable), took a couple of months to recover. Then started on Pembro, tri-weekly sessions of immunotherapy, takes place where they also give chemotherapy, same process save I don't have a port in my chest. The tumor has shrunk from the size of an orange (it is in the left bronchus) to the size of first joint of my thumb. President Carter had the same treatment and a brain tumor as well, his was melanoma that metastasized to the brain and liver. After three months of treatment they suspended all infusions, as the tumors had disappeared. Mine haven't but they are shrinking. An MRI of the head every 18 weeks and a CT Scan of the chest every 9 weeks. I look at myself as a lab rat, noting the changes.  Some obvious deficits, can't pinpoint whether it is the Pembro, the operation or the radiation of the brain (10 treatments). I function fine behind a keyboard, but in verbal exchanges it is like I have a mild form of Cerebral Palsy, same problem with walking. Very interesting. Oct 2017 I thought I had at best 6 months, still here and still trucking on. After the operation I went from 77 to 5 overnight, lots of therapy to come back, a long way to go though. Most of all I miss my ability to exercise. I rode my bike daily, when weather was inclement I rode an exercyle. Those days are behind me. I am positive and optimistic, optimistic enough to spend the money to have the dentist make me a new set of dentures. Laughs at self (I hate those stupid acronyms, so childish).Oldperson (talk) 01:22, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

I'll answer your query
with a query. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 02:21, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Category:Wikipedia orphaned files may be more useful than User:JJMC89 bot/report/Orphaned images. The former contains orphaned free files, which tags with Orphan image. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 05:32, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Sixtyseven
I'd like to add:

″Nor was I born on June 7th, nor the 6th of July.″

...right after your "not born in 1967" bit. Because you see, "67" could mean 6/7 (June 7) or 6 July. But I guess you weren't born then either. So, how do you feel about adding the above quote to your userpage? And what does "sixtyseven" / 67 in your username REALLY signify? --172.124.128.102 (talk) 12:43, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Internet Archive bot falsely tagging links as dead
Hi, I thought I should let you know the Internet Archive bot you used (or it has your name in the edit message anyway ) falsely labelled a link as dead for some reason — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.144.208.217 (talk) 10:56, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't really understand all of that - it was done by the bot maintainer at my request to make sure we had salvaged all links to Livejournal. You'll note that now the link points to an archived version of the LJ. DS (talk) 13:59, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * No, the bot labelled it as dead and did nothing useful, I added in an archive.today link manually


 * And I certainly don't have the time to go through edits made by a bot that's en-masse misinforming people across the entire Wikipedia that links are dead when they actually aren't, good luck Wikipedia it's actually depressing you have administrators that don't even look at history pages these days --109.144.210.55 (talk) 23:15, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:38, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

File:Frances E. Williams.jpg
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"to avoid false positives" comment
This edit worries me. It's not a very obvious typo - saying "is lead" will tend to happen reasonably often in chemistry and physics. The fix makes it a little easier for some person or bot -- who cannot exclude "is lead" on the basis that the wikilink isn't an accident -- but at the cost of making the source harder for everyone else to read and edit for any reason. For one such edit, the cost seems trivial, but if there were comments like that in all the phrases prone to potential misinterpretation in a two word deformatted text search, we as editors would need robots to read through the resulting morass for us. I don't think we should have these. Wnt (talk) 17:41, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

weird claim linked to an article that does not seem to have anything to do with it
Hi Dragonfly,

I am a bit puzzled by your "silliness" edit in The Nine Billion Names of God. It seems like a very weird claim linked to an article that does not seem to have anything to do with it. Care to enlighten me? --MarSch (talk) 09:09, 28 February 2019 (UTC) Ah, I see now. I had expected mention of this story in Scholz's author page, and also did not directly see the connection with the Quixote-thing. I think adding this info to Scholz and explaining that second connection instead of leaving it implicit would be an improvement.--MarSch (talk) 16:08, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Scholz wrote a story which was explicitly inspired by (and named for) "Nine Billion Names of God". We may not have an article about his story, but we do have one about him. So it seems perfectly reasonable to link him there. (and if you're asking why I linked to the Menard story, that's the whole point.) DS (talk) 13:35, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Salisbury Hare
Hey! Just to let you know – I've corrected your closure of above AfD discussion. The result tag should be placed above the discussion's header ( === title === ), as per WP:AFD/AI. Thanks! Best, Tymon. r   Do you have any questions?  23:29, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

THANK YOU.
thank you

Chicago race riot of 1919
I'm looking for a link to a discussion for the formerly deleted article Chicago race riot of 1919. It was deleted by you on 08:41, 9 December 2006. I wanted to provide a link to the discussion on the talk page of said article. As of now, there is only a redlink. Thanks. Mitchumch (talk) 18:56, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

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Filenames
Hi, thanks for renaming File:Sam Hall (Astounding).jpg, I have several others which I now realize should also be similarly renamed, all were created by myself yesterday and relate to Poul Anderson short stories, are you able to rename these also? Shall I give you a list here or are you able to find them yourself ? Apologies for the inconvenience, Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 09:05, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * File:BrakeAnderson.jpg‎, File:DelendaEst.jpg‎, File:GoatSongAnderson.jpg, File:NightPiece.jpg‎ GrahamHardy (talk) 15:28, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Are you able to rename these as appropriate? Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 17:22, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Toonopedia
Thanks for the kind words. Sorry for the delay in answering; I'm rarely on Wikipedia much these days. You might already know, but in case not, here's where all the Toonopedia archive links are kept, along with a record of which have been added to articles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tenebrae/Toonopedia_backup --Tenebrae (talk) 16:55, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Natalia Parés Vives
Hi, I'm looking at creating a page for this transwomen chess player. An article in Spanish has existed since 2012. You deleted the page in 2016 (there's no AfD to examine), anything I should know before creating? Thanks --Fæ (talk) 12:55, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Milen Manoj Earath
Hello DragonflySixtyseven! I'm sorry for jumping the gun. I would like to thank you for taking your time for my draft. I had included sources for all the previously unsourced facts which you had deleted. Kindly go through my draft when time permits. Draft:Milen_Manoj_Earath Awaiting for your valuable feedback. Thanking you, Refluxdonut (talk) 12:16, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:David A. Trampier in 2002.jpg
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Adamu Nchama Baba-Kutigi
thanks for the review (Wazirinbida (talk) 21:35, 27 July 2019 (UTC))

Thanks!
Hi DragonflySixtyseven - Thank you for the page review, much appreciated!--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 10:33, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you!
Hi, thanks for reviewing my Cockalier page, I will try to improve it! Do you think I need to add information or simply cite my sources and where I got my information from? -- comment added by Marley2003 (talk • contribs) 21 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Both. You definitely need more information that is cockalier-specific, not simply cocker-related, kingcav-related, or crossbreed-related. DS (talk) 16:19, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Ok thanks, I will try to get some. I tried using another crossbred dog as a template to know what to write on my page. Do you have any other tips (I'm pretty new to Wikipedia) Marley2003 (talk) 17:55, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
 * The most important tip is to make sure you have sources before you decide that a topic is notable. There've been lots of times when I was interested in writing an article about a topic, but couldn't find enough sources. That's pretty much what defines notability: if enough sources exist. DS (talk) 18:40, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Royal christening gown
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DYK for Royal christening gown
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Mineral : Konerkepite
The reason I added this because google doesn't have data about this mineral. I'm talking about a mineral my mentor got and I've seen. He doesn't like to add the image of the stone because of it's that rare but he agreed to get closer shots of inclusions and inside. (which was true and added to the Wikipedia) that's why I created the whole CGI in the first place. A few years ago Russian buyers went to Sri Lanka and bought pink spinels with rutile but actually there was no rutile but strontium, my mentor got his hands on some that times and researched on that. I found these details on my mentor's handbook (which was he agreed to provide). I have no idea how to add that as a source. (a) that's all I have to say about the actual source, (b) I strongly don't admit that I made it up as I've just started to contribute to the Wikipedia. I'll try to find some more source. Remove if these details are not enough. Just tried to add something useful.

- LUC (talk)

Charming Kitten
Hi; I hear you reviewed my article.--Personisgaming (talk) 22:40, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Sarah Waddell
Thank you for adding her name ... I had tried to find out about the actress but none of the research I did turned up anything. I had heard also that she had had to go into hiding after that ad because of death threats she got (had I found a source for that, it would not only have been in the article, it would have been the DYK hook).

Interestingly, I think she has done enough work to be notable, although it doesn't seem like we have any articles on films she's done (she's in Prevenge, but her part must be really small as she's not in the article's cast list). And, according to her online bio, we would have a great hook: she's apparently a fully qualified veterinary surgeon (my guess, actually, from her bio, is that that's her day job). Daniel Case (talk) 17:00, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Per the source, TWWMUHM is not in Waddell's "extensive CV". This may be indicative of something. DS (talk) 17:37, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I noticed that too. Daniel Case (talk) 21:01, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation
I created this article about a month ago and there were apparently no visitors until you reviewed it (per the Pageviews tab on the article's History page). Was the article invisible prior to your review? Just curious. Ghostofnemo (talk) 05:33, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Actually, the page got plenty of views - but a few days ago it was renamed. The pageview count you're looking at is for the new name only. DS (talk) 13:21, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

John From Idegon WIKI HOUNDING
How can I report user :John From Idegon: for wiki hounding? He harasses several users and is the reason I left wikipedia for 3 months. He wiki hounded me then got his "friends" to harass me as well.. Abbycarroll (talk) 19:35, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Draft Status
Is it ok to move Draft:North Carolina General Assembly of 2017–18 to the article space? I believe you did a review of it. User:G._Moore talk 16:05, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

14 years!
Congrats on 14 years of adminship! SQL Query me! 23:10, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

 Wishing DragonflySixtyseven a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Chris Troutman ( talk ) 23:51, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! :)
Thank you for your message, much appreciated. I'm new to Wikipedia editing I have just edited/omitted the sentence on Mr Bryndza's life. I was unable to find source. Artinnitra (Artinnitra (talk) 20:16, 16 October 2019 (UTC)).

Thanks for fixing the list
You found a good title in regard to BLP List of songs that have been the subject of plagiarism disputes. and your changes in descriptions on the list are also an improvement Lightburst (talk) 20:07, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

notice notice
Hi D67, I asked a question for you at Administrators'_noticeboard - would you mind chiming in? — xaosflux  Talk 01:15, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Siri Music Group
Great call! 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 01:27, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Deleted Draft from My User Page
Hi DragonflySixtyseven,

I noticed that you deleted my draft page from my sandbox User:ThatGuy551/Draft of Jack Massey Welch for the reason "There is no indication that Mr Welch meets inclusion criteria at this time." The reason I made a draft was because I was working to address that concern, following the guidelines in WP:YTN, WP:N, and WP:LIVE. Can you please restore the page or advise where else I can develop the page while I work to research sources for a new page? This is my first time writing a new Wikipedia article and any direction is appreciated, thank you. --ThatGuy551 (talk) 04:36, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Madge Kendal
Hello! Back in August you added Madge Kendal's legal married name to the lead, with the splendidly accommodating edit summary "if you have a better way of integrating the "Brunton Grimson" detail, go ahead". I'm working in my sandbox on an upgrade of the whole article, and I'd be glad of your thoughts, if you have a moment, on how I have dealt with her three different names. (Ignore the pseudo-Latin gibberish in the rest of the lead: it's just there to give me a feel for the proportions of the page.) Regards,  Tim riley  talk   18:18, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Anderson article
Hi, you indicated on my Talk page that you'd like to discuss something on the Anderson article. Which Anderson article did you mean? I'm certainly willing to discuss it. Mandorix (talk) 20:23, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks
Thanks for your help i have seen where I want wrong. RDgooner (talk) 19:43, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Overzealous deleting
Would most appreciate your advice and like to propose improved guidelines for Notability in the music categories along with oversight on overzealous editors who are disparaging and disrespectful in their commentary. The inside shoptalk between these editors is repulsive and because working professionals in the entertainment industry do not have the time to learn the sophisticated culture of guidelines and codes, it is falling to paid wikipedia editors. Pages that have been reviewed by administrators with no tags, etc. get caught up by a few editors whom are making it their personal life's mission. FYI: imdb.com has editorial oversight. Imdb was cited for a live performance of a song on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon. Not sure whether it is still there as the article was rewritten by an editor in the view of keeping a Nomination for Deletion but allmusic.com is rife with errors and there is not way to contact anyone beyond through the page for corrections and those are not responded to. There seems to be a "guilty until proven innocent" sentence going on that is absurd in the case of a performance on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon Show that is listed on imdb but is not in any print medium. The video was included in the external links but that is no longer there now, though I think the editor who revised the article had the best intentions for which I appreciate. Encouraging this kind of continuing discussion over whether a musical performance by The Roots on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon occurred at all, when there was a YT video of the entire show in the external links and an imdb link cited, is an Orwellian 1984 and furthermore, completely diminishes the respect for Wikipedia in the eyes the entire entertainment community who all, on the one hand want pages but on the other hand, hire paid Wikipedia writers because no one has the time for this except people who make wikipedia their entire life's work and in this regard, there is, in my mind, a question of why the rigidness. The editor may very well have good intentions but as I see it, it is a special interest or obsession and as this is a community and the editors come to know each other, there evidently are editors watching the conversation who are not saying anything because they know how literal and stubborn he is and either don't want to get involved or don't want to hurt the feelings of a colleague here. I've never experienced anything like this and have lost a week's sleep trying to learn more about this back end of wikipedia because it just seems that where there is absolutely no professional involvement and it's difficult at best to find the kind of information needed on reliable sources from several decades ago, something needs to be added to the guidelines. And if an administrator has reviewed an article, before any editor redirects or nominates it for deletion, does that editor see that an administrator has already reviewed it? Or whether the administrator has tagged it? If the editor is going around zealously redirecting without merging or putting merge tags and nominating articles for creation, is there some kind of count on these to determine when it's overzealous and also encouraging edit wars? Many thanks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Tequila_Mockingbird_(song)#Tequila_Mockingbird_%28song%29

I am the creator of the article and am not experienced in wikipedia but in the last week, I have been trying to learn about the culture. Because of the stubborn persistence of the editor who has nominated pages for deletion, I read through notifications of pages reviewed and found that you reviewed a previous page. I found another administrator who reviewed a different page and also wrote to the administrator. I went through nominations for deletion and read through some of the discussions. There are a limited group of editors who are in these discussions, usually the same ones, so I thought it would be reasonable to see whether administrators who are reviewing pages but not weighing in on these discussions are aware of what is going on here. This is a community yes, but you can see by the tone of the derisive commentary relying on wikipedia shoptalk that respect for the life's work of intellectual property creators is under attack. Just last night in speaking about what is going on here with someone I met, he told me that he was approached by a paid editor telling him - he is a film director - that he should have a wikipedia page. I asked further and he said the caller was from India. The guidelines need to be reviewed as well as the reliable sources. allmusic.com is rife with errors. The idea that no full-on press story of a song or album trumps multiple journalists mentioning the song in their reviews of shows, a performance on The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon not being verifiable, and over 10 separate releases of the song by major record labels is absurd. Stories that appear in the press can often be the work of a good publicist who is paid and record companies that work a record - that's all fine but when a song is still around after over 40 years, and one editor who lives between Columbia and the UK where he spends his time going through back editions of Music Week - and this is not even Billboard - and obviously has a lot of time on his hands to zealously pursue in an effort to delete is going to, sooner or later, counter the work of good editors and the Wikipedia community. That is my opinion and so in the hours I've spent this week trying to figure out what is going on here in the community, I looked up the notifications and learned, with a student from USC how to use the Talk pages of the reviewers. I hope this makes sense. I really don't know much more about this but in music and film, there are fanatics. It lead to John Lennon being shot and killed. No professionals have time to be editors on wikipedia. Allmusic.com is a source of frustration for every music business professional who cannot correct, add credits or delete erroneous ones. imdb is the go to for film and tv professionals. If a zealot like the one who is scrutinizing pages to "win" whatever it is he thinks he is achieving by getting them deleted instead of improving them has no oversight in wikipedia but a page of discussion...do administrators who have reviewed a page get notified when a page they have reviewed is being targetted for deletion? Lastly, I have left a query asking how to revert a redirect on the Eumir Deodato Love Island page as this editor Richard3120 has conceded contrary to his remark that the album is not notable and etc - but none of them - and they are all watching the page - reply. I really don't have the time to spend on all of this but I see it as a bigger problem that needs to be reviewed outside of the singular two pages being Nominated for Deletion. So I wrote to the administrator who reviewed Tahiti Hut and then to you. I can only two a couple at a time because just too busy but again, I hope that something is done to help the situation. I found in 2006 a number of essays with suggestions about guidelines. I think whomever makes the decisions should go back and look them over and expand the guidelines to discourage the waste of time that's going on when one editor takes a rigid, literal interpretation and uses it to target other editors contributions. Rosedelune (talk) 15:23, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Excellent post - you have my sympathy. Certainly there should be oversight and over-zealous deletions should be sanctioned. Sarah777 (talk) 18:37, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

William Horne (composer) - deleted for invalid reason and without proposed discussion
You deleted this article, but not for one of the 5 reasons as outlined under WP:CDL. Your deletion summary says only "notability not asserted". There was no proposed deletion discussion; it was just out of the blue (and into the red). This is a BLP, and a classical music composer, teacher, and published author. The article was part of WikiProject Classical Music Composers and was one of many stubs. Certainly, like many stubs, it needed expansion, but that's no reason for deletion either. Your stated reason is invalid; William Horne is certainly notable, but why have you claimed that notability wasn't asserted? By the existence of the page, it is in effect "asserting" its notability. This sounds like a misguided judgement call, where you have no cause to make one. It sounds as if you have a personal interest.

Horne is not as famous as Beethoven, but we shouldn't have to argue a "notability" point. But that doesn't appear to be your reason for deletion: your claim appears to be that no one claimed (asserted) Horne was notable! There should be a proposed deletion discussion first, at the very least, and being part of the WikiProject should afford a measure of protection from someone just deleting an article because they have the power to and it's their personal opinion that they don't think the BLP is noteworthy. Other editors, Project members, have opinions too, and have had no opportunity to voice them, let alone work on this one-of-many stubs that need expanding. Then again, strictly speaking, your stated reason for deletion is not that William Horne wasn't notable, but that nobody said he was notable. We find ourselves arguing a catch 22 there; how can we "assert" anything if there's no forum for discussion now, even if we were to assume we are required to argue such a thing. I wasn't aware that was a required policy on Wikipedia, punishable by death (i.e. deletion). Just please undelete this page. BarneyFiver (talk) 20:30, 21 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Please review WP:COMPOSER. -  FlightTime  ( open channel ) 20:36, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

That doesn't help with the current problem, as it doesn't address the lack of a forum to discuss Horne's notability or the lack of a stub article to expand according to the guidelines of the WP link you just cited. The article needs to be undeleted first. BarneyFiver (talk) 20:53, 21 November 2019 (UTC)


 * "Notability not asserted". "Is a classical composer" is not an assertion of notability. "Is a retired professor at a university" is not an assertion of notability. "Has music for sale at PrestoMusic" is not an assertion of notability. "Has a rating on RateMyProfessor" is not an assertion of notability. "Has an entry on Discogs" is not an assertion of notability. Can you get me ANY evidence that he meets either WP:MUSIC or WP:ACADEMIC? Any independent coverage of him at all? Anything beyond his faculty page at the university where he used to teach (which, at the time I deleted, was the only source cited)? If you can, I will gladly restore the article. I looked for such evidence myself before deleting, and I found nothing, but maybe you'll have better luck. DS (talk) 21:26, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Did you or someone else ask these questions on the article's talk page, waited a reasonable time for a response, and got no response and no updates of additional material to the page, and then propose the page officially for deletion? If the answer is negative to any of these, then your deletion is improper, and the page should be undeleted. I'm not going to argue notability with you here on your talk page; the proper place for that is on the article's talk page. Keep in mind, this article was a stub, recently created. You have to give people a chance to add material to it and expand it. And you have to allow people the chance to discuss it. Things happen slowly on Wikipedia. Your deletion may have been hasty, and overzealousness is an accusation I am hearing a lot of lately.

The bottom line is I won't discuss notability for a page that, at this moment, doesn't exist. And I'm not going to create the page, because some of that work has already been done by others. I would like to see an archived copy of the article and its talk page, before I can go any further with this. BarneyFiver (talk) 22:18, 21 November 2019 (UTC)