User talk:Drat8sub/Archive 7

North east united
Drat8 sub can you please review  my edit to north east united FC wikipedia page. Kbfc1234 (talk) 13:26, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Amaranta Osorio
Hi, Drat8sub:

thanks a lot to help me in Amaranta Osorio article: it´s so good to receive the feedback of some other wikipedians. But I spent hours looking for references. There are references in publications, in premiers, in awards, in solos because they are published by theatrical publishers. And then you can also find the refs in some other news about her... First I published the article in spanish, and then french... Then I dared with the English. But anyway, you spend your time helping so I can only say thank you...--DamAzul (talk) 16:15, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Cy goddard
Hi Drat8sub. Please add Cy Goddard to afc slot,not normal slot. You may check his article.223.226.164.142 (talk) 03:39, 7 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Source please, that says signed as AFC player. Drat8sub (talk) 14:45, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Cy Goddard
Hi Drat8sub l,can u please add Cy Goddard in list of foreign players? Here is the source.https://mobile.twitter.com/bncalcio/status/1312384165413679104

But he is japanese not england player they sign him for AFC slot Insane1212 (talk) 16:11, 5 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Source please. Drat8sub (talk) 16:14, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

ALF
le Fondre is certainly signed check ESPN. It's the best source one can cite.

Regards

SHISHIR DUA 07:29, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Why
are you editing a discussion that has been archiv ed. It is no longer open. It's an archive. We don't edit archived discussions. -- Deep fried okra ( talk ) 22:32, 12 October 2020 (UTC)


 * , I am extremely sorry, I just opened a link which directly take me to the discussion, i did not realise its Archived. Uggh, my head is not going straight. Shall I remove the comments? Drat8sub (talk) 22:39, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't know! There have been others. Don't know what's going on there. -- Deep fried okra ( talk ) 22:40, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I think I must. Drat8sub (talk) 22:45, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

MJPD again
Hello please comment your thought regarding https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2020_September_25?markasread=200645887&markasreadwiki=enwiki. Since you said that that you will try to resumbit the draft in a neutral point of view, I thought you should have a look at this.(WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 15:29, 27 September 2020 (UTC))


 * , what else can I say? It seems we need to wait a year more. Anyway, I will try to put my opinion there, I need to revist the guidelines. Let's see. Drat8sub (talk) 22:53, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

20-21 ISL clubs name
names of all the clubs are written wrong, they are written based on cities which is not correct i.e. Bengaluru FC is mentioned as Bengaluru, FC Goa is written as Goa, and so on, I tried to change and make them correct but the edit was undo was someone, so please make it correct — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kadirrazvi (talk • contribs) 15:21, 27 September 2020 (UTC)


 * , welcome here in wikipedia. I can understand your concern, we generally don't write FC again and again, and we are not writing names based on places, we just exclude FC and this is how the standard is. I have added a welcome note at your talk page, check this and go through the guidelines, you need to learn a lot, but don't worry, it's a matter of time. Drat8sub (talk) 22:49, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Submission for Good Article
Hello Drat8sub Can you suggest any improvements needed in Kerala Blasters FC article ? So after that I could submit it for Good Article review. Thanks(WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 14:52, 28 September 2020 (UTC))


 * Generally a significant contributor should go for GAN as the contributor is much familiar with article. However, the article is no where near to GA, there are lot of MOS and Citation issues exist in the article. Anyway, the first thing you must do is to go for WP:GOCER, once the copyedit finishes, we can then work on mos and structure. After that it will be all good to go for GAN. Drat8sub (talk) 15:53, 28 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Yes, we can do it together(WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 17:32, 28 September 2020 (UTC))


 * no no, by we, I mean anyone whoever is interested. You first request at the WP:GOCER. Then we can resume the discussion again. Drat8sub (talk) 21:53, 28 September 2020 (UTC)


 * I've just noticed that you have already taken it to the GOCER, hope it soon get copyedited. And, are you willing to do the rest, I mean ref and mos correction and take to GAN ??? The article surely looks like having a chance. Drat8sub (talk) 22:08, 28 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Drat8sub Ok, that's good to hear..(WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 04:09, 29 September 2020 (UTC))


 * Drat8sub WhiteFalcon1, I can do some work here.Actually I made the article in the current structure by adding more reliable sources and other stuffs. But still need guidance from an admin Shahoodu (talk) 05:06, 29 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Admin does not do these things, they will only advise you to visit WP:MOS or WP:RS, WP:V etc guidelines. You can visit mos guidelines and if you can revamp the section based on mos, otherwise I think will surely do it.Drat8sub (talk) 15:17, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * And for both of you /, no need to add my name at my own talk page, anything if added in my talk page, I will automatically get a notification. Secondly, visit Template:Reply to and WP:TP to understand, how to reply or ping users. Drat8sub (talk) 15:22, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Kk, got it...(WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 15:27, 29 September 2020 (UTC))

Alex
This was intended to correct the name, Alex Lima, is what he uses and various sources too. I don't wanna indulge in the things you quoted. Please check it on major sources. Please make it Lima. Stay safe Regards SHISHIR DUA 17:47, 29 September 2020 (UTC)


 * , well. European name having "de xyz" means "of xyz" means of the place xyz, or sometimes you have seen "de la" meaning "of the". So no European source will call him "Alex Lima" from the name "Alex Monteiro de Lima" rather Alex Monteiro. Only Indian websites will amke those mistake who have no idea what they are calling. A similar example you can take of Arabic names of player, like Fahad bin Ahamed, one cannot write his names as Fahad Ahmed, because "bin" means "son of". So Fahad son of Ahmed does not become Fahad Ahmed. I hope you understand. And here is best example how best website Goal publish with full name Jamshedpur FC recruit Brazilian midfielder Alexandre Monteiro de Lima. Thank you. Drat8sub (talk) 18:01, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Just putting it out there from Jamshedpur FC themselves. "Alexandre Monteiro de Lima, simply known as Alex". --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 18:22, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Alright then do so. Please note I know all these things and I'm well versed in major European languages, a sorta polyglot. Thanks for your kind intervention. SHISHIR DUA 18:55, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Arrangement of players
Hi, drat8sub can you please clear my doubt. Kbfc1234 (talk) 10:23, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , what is that?? Drat8sub (talk) 12:26, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Arrangement of players According to their  playing positions in matches, I saw that the players are not arranged in that order(GK-FW) In some wikipedia  pages.Can I please arrange the players in that way(GK-FW),is there any problem for doing like that)please give your opinion. Kbfc1234 (talk) 14:49, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 * which pages are you talking about?? Mention them specifically, then I can say something. Drat8sub (talk) 14:55, 1 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Isl teams wikipedia pages :-north east united, mohun began AC, fc goa, bengaluru fc, mumbai city fc, odisha fc, jamshedpur fc, hyderabad fc Kbfc1234 (talk) 15:06, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Players list are kept according to increasing jersey number, not by positions. If any article is not arranged according to jersey number then correct that, take example of BFC correction I just made. Drat8sub (talk) 15:17, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Ok,thanks drat8sub Kbfc1234 (talk) 15:19, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Crest Section in Mohun Bagan AC page
With respect to your views that the crest has been used once in the page, I do believe that it is a complete different section. The section containing the evolution of crests over the years should contain the latest crest as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IAmPushpak (talk • contribs) 20:17, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , please read guidelines. You can use such non free logo once in an article. And it's not necessary when we are showing the present logo just below the infobox. One can easily understand that what is the logo from 2020. And whenever comment, you must sign your comment with four tildes ~ Thank you. Drat8sub (talk) 20:21, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Prevent the deletion of Ishaan Sahi article. Need help.
Mr. Drat8sub, I need your help to prevent the deletion of the article Ishaan Sahi and also remove those flags. I have used reliable sources to create that article. And also fixed some references. As there is no enough news on Ishaan Sahi, I used as much as I could find.
 * My kind request is, please help me to develop the article and prevent the deletion of that article. Please go through the article. Debabrata Sarkar Mejbill (talk) 05:05, 2 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Sorry DSM, the subject fails WP:NFOOTY. We cannot create every players' article, there are thousands of players and that's why guidelines are there to create only those who are notable. His article can be created in future if he plays in I League or ISL. Drat8sub (talk) 13:24, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Mr. Drat8sub, The article, Ishan Pandita was deleted as it didn't follow notability guidelines. But now I have recreated the article with proper sources. But I have not published it on Wikipedia platform, but in my sandbox. My humble request to you, please check the article whether it is eligible for Wikipedia. Here is the link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Debabrata_Sarkar_Mejbill/sandbox#/editor/all Thank you. Debabrata Sarkar Mejbill (talk) 11:19, 4 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Good to go as now in FC Goa. Can be created. Drat8sub (talk) 15:30, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * You can use these citations in the article whereever fits. TNIE, TOI, SK, News18 etc. Drat8sub (talk) 15:32, 4 October 2020 (UTC)


 * , you can add Personal life: TNIE & TOI citations have little bit..like "His family hails from Jammu and Kashmir, but he was born in New Delhi. He moved to the Philippines in his early age and then returned to India in Bangalore. To have better training and skill development for his footballing career, he moved to Spain in 2014". Drat8sub (talk) 15:49, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much Mr. Drat8sub, I had thought about his personal life before, but did not add in fear of notability guidelines. Now I am relieved to have your support and approval. Thanks a lot, I will finish my work soon. Thanks a lot for your valuable suggestions. You have always helped me on various things, I am grateful to you. Thank you Debabrata Sarkar Mejbill (talk) 18:31, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Mr. Drat8sub, please check Ishan Pandita's New article in my sandbox: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Debabrata_Sarkar_Mejbill/sandbox I have added Personal Life and some references. But I can't publish it as a new article because the page Ishan Pandita is protected now. My earnest request is, please remove the protection so that I can recreate the article. Thank you Debabrata Sarkar Mejbill (talk) 20:01, 4 October 2020 (UTC)


 * , send me the link where it is protected, the discussion page or something. Drat8sub (talk) 12:40, 5 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Mr. Drat8sub, here it is: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishan_Pandita Thank you. Debabrata Sarkar Mejbill (talk) 12:44, 5 October 2020 (UTC)


 * I never knew it was deleted thrice and now salted. Well don't worry, you have to wait for atleast an ISL match to be played by him, then you can request a admin and show the draft. Keep the draft and if you find any other good citation where more details about him given add them and update the draft. But at this moment you need to wait for a match for WP:FOOTYN/WP:NFOOTY. Drat8sub (talk) 13:05, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , you can add this ISL citation, this one Drat8sub (talk) 13:28, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. I'll wait and continue my work on the article in my sandbox. Debabrata Sarkar Mejbill (talk) 13:47, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Reliability of sources
Hi user:Drat8sub I have a doubt, can we make edits on isl teams  Wikipedia pages based on rumours  like signed or set to sign (not in talks or advanced  talks) from trustworthy sources like khel now and goal or should we need to wait till the club confirms the signing of  that player which was confirmed  by those trustworthy source before. Kbfc1234 (talk) 09:09, 4 October 2020 (UTC)


 * There should not be any doubt. Rumour and set to be signed is not equal to confirmed signing and is not officially signed. Thus nothing should be added if there is no confirmation. Drat8sub (talk) 12:01, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 * OK thanks for clearing my query @User:Drat8sub Kbfc1234 (talk) 14:06, 4 October 2020 (UTC).


 * Foreign players of Mumbai city fc is not yet officially announced by the club, but still foreign players names are their in Mumbai city fc wikipedia page,that's why i am still confused and asking  you the question again.


 * Remove if added, as simple as that, not for ISL page only guidelines are for all pages. Rumours and set to, should not be added in any page and wikipedia is NOTNEWS. Sign your comment everytime you add comments here and no need to tag my name at my own talk page, I will automatically get notification. Drat8sub (talk) 15:23, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Anchal Vohra
Hi user:Drat8sub

Can you take a look at the AfD discussion?

Regards, AltruisticHomoSapien AltruisticHomoSapien (talk) 19:55, 9 October 2020 (UTC)


 * , pardon me for late reply. I am afraid that, from the comments already been made in the discussion, it seems a consensus have reached that the topic cannot pass WP:BASIC/WP:ANYBIO/WP:JOURNALIST. And never do whataboutery or Other Stuffs exist in any discussion, you will lose the battle before it starts. Try to prove any points on above three guidelines, the article can be saved, at present condition I don't think it passes. Drat8sub (talk) 00:38, 11 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Did you check the above three guidelines?? Can you support any, with citations? Drat8sub (talk) 14:45, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Cy Goddard
I'd been been telling you for long. Cy Goddard is Japanese. Every article,website says this. So please,please put him to AFC slot. Here is one of the various sources saying him as Japanese. https://theawayend.co/2020/10/06/mumbai-city-fc-sign-cy-goddard/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.177.127.183 (talk) 05:05, 10 October 2020 (UTC)


 * A team can have a Japanese, an Australian, a Vietnamese, a Saudi, an Iranian etc. Until and unless we have officially confirmed information about other players or any confirmation from the club or league that he is an AFC player, we cannot add that. Drat8sub (talk) 12:24, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
 * why did you add others, who told you Inman is ATKMB's AFC player and not Williams,, NEUFC can still sign one — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kadirrazvi (talk • contribs) 14:24, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , forgot to reply. First thing first, ensure that you have read thoroughly WP:CIV. This will be last time I'll be telling you this, if you want to have any kind of conversation regarding any article be polite and gentle in words and should have decorum. Though you did not violate the CIV but this is how it starts, questioning the integrity or baseless accusation to the editor. : why on earth are you asking me? Did I add those? You could have asked the concerned user who had added those in that column? Or instead of telling "who told you?", you could've gently ask me or point me out that the two players were wrongly placed and are not announced such by clubs, I could've corrected accordingly. However, now it's been corrected. Please navigate through the guidelines, it will help you. And always sign your comment with four tildes ~. Thank you. Drat8sub (talk) 20:44, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

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Mumbai City FC logo
Hello, Drat8sub , Today as per Mumbai FC 's social media handles  there logo's colour changed from dark blue to sky blue. So can update the new logo ? Thanks WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 07:58, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Drat8sub sorry to disturb you. I think best way do is starting discussion on the Mumbai City FC talk page. Once again sorry disturb you.ThanksWhiteFalcon1 (talk) 08:59, 12 October 2020 (UTC)


 * , well not clear at this moment, in some of the today's tweet I find that darkblue yellow too (here for eg.). So wait and watch. Not now. Drat8sub (talk) 14:10, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, probably should wait for some time .Thanks WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 14:27, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

ANI
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. SHISHIR DUA 14:20, 11 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Everyone has given you chance, but your ignorance, ego, rudeness, lack of maturity and self-awareness finally brought you to this point. Hope you try to rectify yourself and learn from here, because I think you are in your teenage and you can be better than this. Thank you. Drat8sub (talk) 21:39, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

October 2020
Hey there, I just saw your message. A-League club Brisbane Roar FC have released a statement on Neville, and therefore it's official. Secondly, it wasn't me who replied "official by TransferMarkt" as you had mentioned, you may check again. Thank you! SaUp2014 (talk) 17:25, 13 October 2020 (UTC)


 * , if it was from BR, you should have mentioned that citation link in your edit summary or like the other user in the box. Your edit was unsourced. Secondly, Cy Goddard edit was also unsourced, you changed position without providing citation. Wikipedia does not care if you say "it's official". Wikipedia wants verifiable citation to verify itself whether it's official or not. Secondly, I did not say you replied with "official by TM". I just cautioned not to do that, as this has been the trend with few other users, with similar unsourced content in the article. Above that you again go on to edit war and reverted Cy Goddard and again without source. This time I am not warning you, but I will keep an eye for sure. Be careful. No unsourced contents, ok. Drat8sub (talk) 19:24, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

recognisation
Hi drat8sub. It came to my notice that the pages current seasons of northeast and jamshedpur aen't created. I thought that you are a expierienced editor,so you mightt help in this issue. Please try to create those articles. Thank you.122.177.127.183 (talk) 16:31, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Current season of Jamshedpur
Hi drat8sub,though I certainly am not Jamshedpur fan,stil for good of Indian football,can you please make a page on current season of Jamshedpur? This is the most neglected club. There is not even the page of 2019-20 season. So if we failed to make its previous season page,at least we can make its current season page. I asked you as I'm a novice.Falcon with appendix (talk) 05:20, 19 October 2020 (UTC)


 * , anyone can create article on wikipedia with proper sourcing. Just take example of any other club season article and create. But try to provide source where ever needed. Drat8sub (talk) 13:57, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Mohun Bagan Crest
McDowell broke up the tie up with Mohun Bagan after ending of 2014-15 season. Hence During 2015-16 and 2016-17 season Mohun Bagan football team used the overall logo of Mohun Bagan Athletic Club. SAIKAT MARINERS DEY (talk) 12:41, 20 October 2020 (UTC)


 * , well one cannot use same logo, that too a non free logo twice in the same article. But we can update information accordingly. For that you add here citation link, one...McDowell broke up the tie up with Mohun Bagan after ending of 2014-15 season, two...between 2015-2017, i.e, for 2015-16 & 2016-17 they used the athletic club logo. I will update the information there in the article best way possible. Drat8sub (talk) 22:15, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

File:Mohun bagan logo 1980s.png listed for discussion
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About club's article move
Hello, Drat8sub This club Quartz FC has not yet been offcially took over by sheffield United. But some one moved the Quartz FC article to Kerala United FC .so please kindly revert the move .WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 10:07, 22 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Per RS provided in the article. No need to revert any move. Drat8sub (talk) 13:58, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Misleading editing
Talk:2020_China–India_skirmishes/Archive_4, Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_298 Talk:2020_China–India_skirmishes/Archive 2, and User talk:Aman.kumar.goel. How many more times you want to be proven wrong? Don't make this edit again and read WP:1AM. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 08:09, 26 October 2020 (UTC)


 * , which of these articles tell you "killed" ? All of them says, "death". Death not equal to killed. And thats why casualties. Death can be fall from cliff, being in cold water etc. By placing killed it means killed by Indian army in action. Which horribly wrong interpretation. And I don't understand the matter is "casualties" or "killed", why are you replacing the citation which was there from starting that too with Republic. And secondly, I have restored to the version where changed from killed to casualties. Drat8sub (talk) 12:41, 26 October 2020 (UTC)


 * And if you have anything to change then it was casualties to killed not the RS provided. Drat8sub (talk) 12:48, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Casualties means dead or injured, not just "dead". I agree that you are engaging in WP:DE for months of months now. You can't ignore USnews who provided the original report, which said "35 Chinese troops died". Your selective sources can misrepresent whatever they want, but US News cannot be ignored. Srijanx22 (talk) 13:19, 26 October 2020 (UTC)


 * , first this will be your last words here at my talk page, I absolutely don't want your profound knowledge, keep that in your brain. You accused me of WP:DE for months of months !! Do you have any idea what DE is? Secondly, does US News says "killed" or "deaths". My revert was not because casualties or killed, but the replacement of an RS. Again, US News does not say killed but died, that is 35 deaths. And as explained above deaths may be various reason falling from cliffs, deaths in cold water etc. So next time when you revert think twice before doing that. And use article talk page for that, not here, don't accuse anyone foolishly, it may lead you in trouble. Drat8sub (talk) 17:22, 26 October 2020 (UTC)