User talk:Drat8sub/Archive 8

To update the new jersey of Bengaluru FC
Hello Mr Drat8sub, the new jersey of Bengaluru FC for 2020-21 have already been revealed in the club website. So, could you please tell me how to update the new jersey design on the :https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengaluru_FC Page? Thank you. Debabrata Sarkar Mejbill (talk) 04:55, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , you can either use these two templates to create on your own, Template:Football kit and Template:Football kit/pattern list or ask any editor from history of Template:kit/pattern list who had recently added any kit pattern in the template. Thank you. Drat8sub (talk) 13:08, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. But I am facing a problem, your reply didn't show in my notification icon. Actually nothing is showing on notification icon related to talk page reply. I can't understand why this is happening. Debabrata Sarkar Mejbill (talk) 18:11, 4 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Go to "preferences" and check "notification", if the first option is ticked or not. Drat8sub (talk) 18:07, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you Mr Drat8sub. Debabrata Sarkar Mejbill (talk) 05:34, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

India national football team
You said in your reversion that this (the two tables for top appearances and scorers) did not belong here, could you clarify as to what you meant as each national football page has a section for records and those added by me were accurate to the page I'd referenced.

I did a brief search and found the India national football team records and statistics page but this is not clearly linked in the main page and, there is no reason that the data in the records and statistics page should be independent per WikiProject Football/National teams. Willing to open a discussion on the Wiki:Football page if necessary.

Felixsv7 (talk) 21:38, 9 November 2020 (UTC)


 * , in one word the national team article should be summarised. And here our aim is to make article FA. Thus follow other national team FAs like Peru and Scotland. Secondly, the stats are needed to be rectified, some have wrong stats. We are investigating each players statistics. Thus that page is not linked yet. It will take time. Drat8sub (talk) 06:39, 10 November 2020 (UTC)


 * The key difference between the Peruvian, Scottish and Indian pages is that the former two have a Records sections in which they link to their records and statistics page. Other national team pages (like Belgium, USA, Ireland, England, Iran etc.) have Records sections in which they link to expanded pages but still display their top appearances and scorers. The data used was from RSSSF, a more reliable source than NFT - especially when it comes to caps for, say, I.M. Vijayan. Felixsv7 (talk) 08:18, 10 November 2020 (UTC)


 * , first the articles that you are talking about are written by me only. So I exactly know what is wrong and what is correct. And I know it's from rsssf. You must check my user page to know what I am talking about. I think you don't understand what I was saying. I am talking about Featured article (FA). And featured articles should not show individual records like this rather in prose as mentioned in Featured articles like Peru and Scotland articles. So, I dont care about other articles except FAs. Belgium article is a FA but that individual record section was not there when it was recognised as FA, later someone added. It should be removed and replaced with prose. And record section will be only added when the records are correct and there needs no rectification. The Peru, Scotland and Belgium articles are linked with the record page because the stats are correct there. You must also check rsssf article. It's clearly written under investigation as we are investigating individual stats of some players. And once reverted you should not restore and a discussion is going here too. It will take atleast 6 months more to rectify the list and after that we will link the record article with the national team article and add a records section. Not before that. Thank you. Drat8sub (talk) 10:54, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
 * (sorry for double ping) was due to a correction. Drat8sub (talk) 11:05, 10 November 2020 (UTC)


 * I see! Thanks for taking time to explain and sorry for any headache caused Felixsv7 (talk) 13:16, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Please go through it
I hope you know that the redirect of the article Manjappada from the Kerala Blasters page has been removed and it exists as a independent one as a result of split discussion. Now I would like to add some contents in the rivalry section with reliable sources. But Im afraid some editors might think I am trying to promote the fan club/ trying to defame the rival fan club. But Im just writing about how the rivalry actually evolved which might be very helpful for som readers. As a main contributor in Indian football related pages, I request you to have a look at that and suggest me any changes. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shahoodu/sandbox# Shahoodu (talk) 14:28, 11 November 2020 (UTC)


 * , I've read the para. I would say, don't add. Reason, the subject is Manjapadda not Begaluru not WBB, the para is describing an incident of WBB. Above that ibt citation clearly shows, there is nothing such hard feelings going on between fans except Rino Anto and Rino Anto is not subject again. Majapadda just said we will fill the stadium, that's an usual tone. Secondly, such things should be independently published by some main stream media, that we can use as RS. ISL here is primary source and the citation is not in prose, a video, and TGF is not a RS at all, such websites and tabloid are operated by anyone. Drat8sub (talk) 19:29, 11 November 2020 (UTC)


 * In present form the article is in good shape, and wait for future to add better things, there will be, undoubtedly... the league is getting bigger by seasons after all. Drat8sub (talk) 19:33, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the suggestion. Just wanted to check whether Im moving in the right direction because some users might think I am trying to defame west block blues. But I have no intention like that in my mind. Like you said, let some better things happen in Indian football and wait for the good moment. Thank you Shahoodu (talk) 04:03, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

ISL 2020
I knew this was coming my way. Now listen to me. The updated league table is wrong according to the source provided. Secondly, if you're telling me that a change in date is a burden for you, I can't help it. Moreover, since you've told me about 'burden', You just changed the date and table according to your liking. You haven't changed the statistics as well. Aren't these burden for other editors? So, please keep editing just the way you're doing, there is no point in arguing about such a topic. And please don't make good faith edits. The content must be present on the source cited. SaUp2014 (talk) 19:54, 23 November 2020 (UTC)


 * , now you listen to me very carefully with open ears. League table here will be updated according to rules of league and if it does not fall in any, it will be alphabetically kept, as followed in the article. Odisha alphabetically comes last so it will be at bottom. Source is for reference not to copy. Now, coming to burden. Do you even understand what burden is? If any editor need to do extra work for an edit done by an user where a section is improperly edited then it's burden, does not matter one line or two line. And it is not burden if a section is not touched by any one and not edited improperly. Statistics section was not burden for anyone, no one touched that section on 23rd, no one half edited that like you did in Regular season. And your one is really burden because if it were not brought to your notice you would have done that again and someone again had to update dates., then simply don't edit and if you edit again without dates be sure you will find yourself at ANI and keep answering there, because you not only did this, you added Odisha Tourism multiple times without source. I have to check your edits at other pages, I am sure you did unsourced edits in other pages too. No one like arguing, I will not get my 5 mins back for writing this, but surely you like arguing because without addressing your mistakes you try to be oversmart here. So be careful next time, what you do and what you say. Drat8sub (talk) 17:02, 24 November 2020 (UTC)


 * , do you know even understand why according to the official website the standings are the way they are? The standings are decide based on their latest result, and the teams are not placed alphabetically. According to you, Chennaiyin would be placed after ATK Mohun Bagan after tonight's win against Jamshedpur. But that's not the case. Chennaiyin has moved to the top of the table as they scored two past Jamshedpur, none of the other winning teams managed to do it. And due to the mentioned, Jamshedpur has moved to the last position. Similarly, in 2020–21 Premier League (check the official standings page as well), the Crystal Palace is ahead of Arsenal in the points table. According to you, alphabetically, Arsenal should've been placed at the 11th position instead of the 12th. So, I would suggest to re-consider what you've written. If the official website is placing a team at a certain place, there is a reason for it. Thanks. By the way, again, people have edited without updating the date. Burden again. SaUp2014 (talk) 17:46, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * , I think you have zero patience, did you read my words. I clearly said, the table will be updated per "rules of league" then if anything doesn't fall according to rules, it will be kept alphabetically. So, why "according to me", Cfc would be after ATK MB? This indicates you are leaning towards CIR. Here consistency is maintained, I am gonna take the article for GAN where consistency is impotant. Please don't give your lame explanation, I exactly know what you are trying to do now. If you want to address your mistakes then message, otherwise don't. Drat8sub (talk) 18:02, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Want to be member of Wikiproject football
Good afternoon Mr. Drat8sub. I want to be a member of Wikiproject football. Could you please help me how can I improve football related articles and how will I stay updated about football news to enrich Wikiproject football. Please tell me as much as possible. Debabrata Sarkar Mejbill (talk) 11:01, 24 November 2020 (UTC)


 * DSM, did you visit the project page WP:FOOTY, the infobox mentioned in topic wise everything. "Member" at the bottom of the infobox. Please don't ask anything without trying. I help, but that does not mean you will ask without trying on your own, otherwise you will not learn anything. Drat8sub (talk) 17:09, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Ok Drat8sub, thank you for your reply. I'll go through everything and will try from myself. However, please Don't mind. Thank you. Debabrata Sarkar Mejbill (talk) 18:58, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

On Mohun Bagan and Atk Mohun Bagan merger
Hey Drat8sub Even though Atk took over MB, it was the legacy of MB that got retained. The jersey logo and everything implies that actually the name just got changes into atk. I know Atk MB is a new club. But isnt it not fair to just ignore the rich legacy of Mohun Bagan. Some users are purposefully trying to remove its legacy forever. What can I do to prevent it. Should I start a discussion? WhiteFalcon1 (talk) 09:59, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Revision of Ishan Pandita
Hi Drat8sub, please review the article Ishan Pandita which I have recreated with addition of some revised Data and references. But the article was attached with a tag on speedy deletion. Pandita has made his debut for FC Goa in the Indian Super League last 30 November. I think he is notable now. Please make a visit in this article. It will be disappointing for me if it is deleted even after he is notable. Thank you Debabrata Sarkar Mejbill (talk) 05:54, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Fixed your talk page archiving
Hi! I took the liberty of fixing the auto-archiving settings at the top of this page. --rchard2scout (talk) 13:03, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

List of Indian football champions
Sinan 2004 has vandalized the page of List of Indian football champions. Please correct Champions and total wins list. SAIKAT MARINERS DEY (talk) 13:17, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Again Sinan 2004 has vandalised the page of List of Indian football champions. Please correct the page.SAIKAT MARINERS DEY (talk) 15:34, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Where are you drat?
Hey drat, I hope you are safe doing well.Its been almost 3 month since you have last edited. I think Indian football needs you back in this platform and I wish your comeback soon. Stay safe. Regards Kichu🐘 Discuss 16:35, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

I also wish your comeback SAIKAT MARINERS DEY (talk) 02:52, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

What are you doing drat?
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Your non-admin close of Articles for deletion/Sharif Zahir
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 * Thanks for the advise, actually I was inactive for last 2 years or so, forgotten some of the reviewing guidelines, I was also wondering why the article is not deleted after my closure, I also brought the issue immediately at admin 's talk page to get to know where I am doing wrong or asking for an advise what to do. Seeing these I must say I will again go through the guidelines related to article creation and deletion process. I hope you take my edit in goo faith, I was just trying to get in track of editing and help with AfD backlogs. Thanks again for bringing the issue. Drat8sub (talk) 10:52, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Glad you are back
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 * Kindly, create an account and then I will like to discuss. Drat8sub (talk) 07:02, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

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 * , I am back, however I can't assure my omni-presence on every article. :) Drat8sub (talk) 08:55, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

Userpage creation
Hi Drat8sub, I've noticed you've created a couple of user pages for other users. Why did you create these? Generally speaking, we let the users create their own user pages if they want to have a user page. stwalkerster (talk) 11:52, 10 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello, I hope those creation are taken in good faith. Well, both the users are kind of new, and from their edits it seems that they have minimal knowledge of guidelines or about wikipedia at all. One of them has done lot of disruptive edits till now and other one simply does not know that there is something called user talk page or user page. Now, what I have noticed that both the users are interested primarily in MohunBagan related articles. It seems their sole purpose is to achieve something with the articles. I want to bring to your notice that, with these articles there are lot going on if you see the talk pages of the articles MBAC and MBSG {earlier ATKMB) and the ATK page. There were several move page, merger and split proposal and a huge off wiki canvassing was going on related to these articles. If you go through previous proposal you will understand that all sorts of people from crazy fans to journo were involve from off wiki and ip users, just came for discussion in the article talk page. Fans of this club and also rival club east bengal were coming to wiki for proposal discussion. I'm concerned and getting a vibe of off wiki canvassing again seeing their pattern of edits, and off wiki canvassing cannot be ignored and again I just hope this is not the case cause earlier proposals were huge chaos. That's why I've created both the user pages with a hope that they might get attention and may update something in the user page with which one can further understand what they are into. I hope you understand my concern and intention. Thank you. Drat8sub (talk) 05:38, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Yep, of course I was assuming you had good intentions! If a user doesn't seem to know about their talk page, despite getting notifications about new messages, then I find it unlikely they'll know about their user page too. I'm just letting you know that generally we allow users to manage their own user pages (within reason), so it's pretty unusual to see someone creating a user page on behalf of another user. stwalkerster (talk) 09:00, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Football at the 2019 South Asian Games
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2023 SAFF Championship
@Drat8sub why need this? Abazizfahad (talk) 02:55, 28 June 2023 (UTC)


 * When you add topic or reply in a talk page of an user, you no need to ping them, simply add your comment.
 * When you edit in mainspace, care to add edit summary, not a single edits by you have an edit summary.
 * Red cards are rarest occurrence in a football match, thus this info needs to be added.
 * Don't reverts edits just because the article is created by you, no one owns the article, so whenever you have confusion. rather then reverting you must open a discussion at the article talk page so that all editors working on that article may see the discussion.
 * Kindly, go through guidelines of wikipedia, I'm reiterating this to you . Drat8sub (talk) 04:18, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @Drat8sub First of all thanks for your advice. First of all I want to say that I never claimed ownership of the article, I find your kind of comments really ridiculous and confusing. Let's talk about red card-
 * Although red cards may be rare but you will notice in FIFA World Cup matches there is no mention of red cards. example
 * And secondly, these parameters of the football box template are only used to specify goals. They are not made to refer to red cards.
 * Abazizfahad (talk) 04:43, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * , FIFA World Cup pages have sub pages for each Groups and FInal Matches. Thus, it is not included in the main page which is supposed to be a summarized article. Secondly, check Template:Football box collapsible, how you can add information in football box. And you don't have to mention my username before your comment when you are commenting on my page only, I will automatically get notified. Drat8sub (talk) 05:08, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * , I have just noticed that you have reverted the edit, it is advisable to undo your own edit when you already opened a thread for discussion. As I have mentioned above football box can have card info and that's only placed under goals parameter. I hope you undo it. Drat8sub (talk) 05:19, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Updation of Indian National football team kit
Indian national football team kit colour should be updated in the official team article. Silverdragon3002 (talk) 15:06, 13 June 2023 (UTC)


 * , I've tried already, difficult pattern, it's a full body pattern. We need to update both women and men's infobox. Women's jersey is also hard, has horizontal thick stripes along with previous tiger stripes. . I will ask someone from the football project. Drat8sub (talk) 15:25, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
 * might be of help. Nehme1499 15:43, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
 * , legend!! Drat8sub (talk) 15:48, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Try asking pt:Usuário(a):Bruno-ban. He was very helpful in creating the Lebanon kit. Nehme1499 14:05, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

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Need help
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 * Eh! Why am I notified of this, I've just added category for sockpuppet for investigation. A discussion going on here, kindly check. Drat8sub (talk) 20:43, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

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 * , hey man, I've added category for the ip who has been disrupting wikipedia for long. I did it per discussion here as already mentioned above. Drat8sub (talk) 20:46, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * If you suspect that these ips are sockpuppets used by Croatian racists, you should mark them on the discussion pages of these IP users instead of their user pages. Fumikas Sagisavas (talk) 20:50, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * , what's Fumikas talking about?? You did the same if I'm not wrong. Drat8sub (talk) 20:56, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I was also under the impression that the templates should be added to the user pages. ? Nehme</b><b style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:80%;color:#27B382">1499</b> 21:01, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I have always added it to the user page, NOT the talk page. GiantSnowman 21:02, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

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India jersey
Too long with old version, at least update colours 93.140.82.52 (talk) 23:30, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

DYK nomination of India national football team at the Asian Games
Hello! Your submission of India national football team at the Asian Games at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 04:02, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Drat8sub, this nomination needs your attention in terms of the GOCE copyedit you've requested, since the nomination can't proceed without it; the copyedit has begun, but is currently waiting on you to respond to the editor. If you haven't gotten back to them soon, so the copyedit can progress, your nomination is likely to be marked for closure. I hope all is well with you, and you can resume actively participating in the process. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:02, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
 * , the editor at GOCE, Leoneix, who have taken the task of copyediting the article stopped editing midway citing he has been busy. I've thought that it might have been done by now. I have seen your notifications right now and addressed the editor about the copyedit which they might have forgotten, seems inactive recently. I will wait for now and wil address the same to the GOCE cordinators so that they can proceed with the remaining copyedit. Drat8sub (talk) 16:19, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I've finished copyediting it, and tagged the talk page. Good luck with DYK and all the best,  Mini  apolis  21:24, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * , extremely thankful to you., the copyedit is done, you can proceed with the necessary steps. Thank you. Drat8sub (talk) 06:32, 8 December 2023 (UTC)