User talk:Dravecky/Archive 8

April 2009

Orphaned non-free media (File:KTIX-AM_logo.png)
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 * That was fast. I'm in the middle of creating KTIX (AM) and had only uploaded the logo 11 minutes before getting this alert.  I've saved the half-formed article with an under construction tag so now it's no longer orphaned. - Dravecky (talk) 16:25, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Happy Dravecky's Day!
For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, see User:Rlevse/Today/Happy Me Day! and my own userpage for a sample of how to use it. — Rlevse • Talk  • 00:03, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow. I'm humbled.  Thanks! - Dravecky (talk) 01:29, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for KZZR

 * Thanks! - Dravecky (talk) 07:47, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Nonkilling Barnstar
For your initiative bringing visibility to the idea of Nonkilling in Wikipedia. --Cgnk (talk) 11:10, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow, thanks, but all I did was notify you of a DYK hook being placed on the front page. I will have to respectfully decline as this should go to people who have made real contributions to the study at Wikiversity. - Dravecky (talk) 16:17, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:WJRL-FM logo.png)
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 * Image restored to article, tag resolved. - Dravecky (talk) 06:28, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK update
Update time, from queue 4. I can do credits. Shubinator (talk) 22:25, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * All done. Use this link to get at the queue for credits.  Thanks for the alert. - Dravecky (talk) 22:30, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Shubinator (talk) 22:35, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

I can do credits if you want. Shubinator (talk) 04:38, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You are the man! Here's the link. - Dravecky (talk) 04:40, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Done, thanks! Shubinator (talk) 04:48, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Radio Station Up for Deletion
WKNZ is up for deletion. I have added some correct information to the page (it had previous had information about WLVZ on it). If you want to vote and then add some more to it, please feel free. -  NeutralHomer •  Talk  • April 5, 2009 @ 13:21
 * I've weighed in on the discussion, added third-party references to the article, and expanded it a bit. Where we'll face trouble on this one is that while all licensed stations are notable, this one doesn't yet have its license and is thus vulnerable.  Still, the sourcing I've added should get this one through the AfD process, if the discussion remains fair-minded. - Dravecky (talk) 14:18, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I hope so, if it is deleted we could always cite KCFF as a notable future station and if KCFF is notable then WKNZ is notable as well. We will cross that bridge when we get there.  Thanks for your updating of the page. -  NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • April 5, 2009 @ 15:33

DYK for KCKX
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Another Station Up for Deletion
WNRG-FM is up for deletion...and rightly so, there is no WNRG-FM....but there is a WNRG-LP. I thought you would like to take the lead on this one and update WNRG-FM for the correct information for the low power station and then move it to WNRG-LP. If you are busy, let me know and I will be happy to do it. -  NeutralHomer •  Talk  • April 7, 2009 @ 05:53
 * There is nothing of salvage value in the current WNRG-FM article and it's both unlicensed and unreferenced so I've voted a fairly strong "delete" on this one. I have, however, put together a new article for WNRG-LP so that licensed broadcaster is now taken care of.  As this eliminates any remote need to keep the valueless -FM article, you might revisit your opinion at AfD. - Dravecky (talk) 07:11, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, master, time to take me to school again! I'd purposefully left WNRG-LP off that dab page, as I thought the fact that the two records for the station in the FCC's database were marked as CP MOD and APP respectively meant that it wasn't actually a fully-licensed station yet, and wouldn't be considered notable. I've really only ever looked for LIC. Am I reading too much/little into that field in the records? Mlaffs (talk) 12:21, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No, you're not reading too much into it, and I wouldn't have created the article except for two issues: 1) the minor WNRG-FM drama that raised the issue and 2) the -LP station has been on the air actually broadcasting for 3.5 years under that construction permit. I don't know what the heck is taking the FCC so long to act here but I don't feel we're acting prematurely on this station. - Dravecky (talk) 15:27, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You see, I've learned something new, as I didn't realize that you were even allowed to broadcast until you were licensed unless you were planning on being, you know, "unlicensed". You know what's really weird about this? On the station's website, their history section talks about moving their Palm Bay outlet from 107.9 to 103.3 a couple of years ago, which made me think that maybe they've just given up on the construction permit at 107.9 and that was why it had never hit LIC status. But when I check the FCC, there's nothing on file for Palm Bay at 103.3. They also show a 103.3 for Cocoa Beach in their logo, but also nothing on file with the FCC for that - in fact, the licensee for WNRG-LP doesn't have anything on file at 103.3 for the entire state. According to the FCC, this CP MOD at 107.9 is also off air, which clearly doesn't jibe with the logo that the station is using on their website (which, for what it's worth, is slightly different than the logo being used on the article). Curious … Mlaffs (talk) 16:09, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * My thinking was that WNRG-FM could be redirected to WNRG-LP. But since WNRG-LP is created, all is fixed and well with the world.  Thanks for the help. -  NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • April 7, 2009 @ 17:25
 * No worries. It was just simpler to start with a fresh canvas. - Dravecky (talk) 17:27, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Fledgling Jason Steed
Thank you for taking an interest in this article in the past. It is now being considered for deletion. If you would like to comment on the article, the discussion is here: .--Beehold (talk) 23:29, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Announcement of intention to make COI edits
Hi Dravecky

Please look at this edit and see if you can think of the correct way to address this (sweetly honest) intention to violate Wikipedia policies.

Regards, Bongo  matic  21:39, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sweet, maybe, but for naught since there appear to be no independent third-party sources to back up any claim of notability. The one article I found would be perfect... except look who wrote it. - Dravecky (talk) 21:54, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I didn't mean the article, I meant the user&mdash;what is the best way to inform the editor of the purpose of WP, what it is not, and COI guidelines? Bongo  matic  22:16, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah. Engage the person in polite conversation, point them to the policies and guidelines, offer to help them bring the article up to standards if possible, and explain why (in this instance) the last of third-party sources to prove notability will keep this from surviving as an article.  Based on the last deletion discussion, I'm just glad that this is a different person for this go-round.  Good luck! - Dravecky (talk) 22:25, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

User:Guvnur/sandbox/Chicago Film Producers Alliance
Thank you for this. My sense is this person, a respected writer on the outside, just does not understasnd what is expected or required on wiki. I have exchanged an email with her and will see if I can guide her through the processes. If we are successful, I will myself reintroduce a proper article. if not, it will remian in limbo until such time as it can meet the standards. I have explained that she has definite problems with COI as far as wiki is concerned. With appreciations,  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 06:53, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Always happy to help. She does seem more grounded than her predecessor. - Dravecky (talk) 06:59, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

User:Buttermilk1950
...has been indef-blocked as a sock. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 11:01, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I noticed that after I planted the DYK credits, her second. She's not the first sock to turn in good work before getting blocked and I suspect she will not be the last.  If only the editors behind the socks hadn't screwed up so badly, some of them could still be valuable contributors. - Dravecky (talk) 18:32, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Part of the motivation of the puppetmaster User:ItsLassieTime appears to have been to collect GA's and DYK's. It has been opined (though not investigated) that the purpose of the socks might have been to generate support for items like that. Anyway, the puppetmaster has been put on ice for at least the next 18 months. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 01:37, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Arts of Orissa
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KSUH
And so the question is, valid redirect or does it deserve its own article? If it's the former, I'd be inclined to take it off the list. Most of the ones that are on the list and marked as "currently a redirect" are along the lines of the religious stations that are affiliates of one of the monster networks, but appeared to have their own programming, local staff, etc. and so might be considered independently notable. Mlaffs (talk) 20:30, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * 50 years of broadcasting history trumps any temporary local simulcast. KSUH deserves its own article (and its partner deserves a better article) but today has been too busy to hardly anything on Wikipedia. - Dravecky (talk) 22:32, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Fair enough — just wanted to check. Mlaffs (talk) 22:53, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Error in queue 5
Second hook on S. P. Adithanar, Tamil points to a disambiguation page. I think Tamil language is the one we want. Shubinator (talk) 02:16, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'm on it. - Dravecky (talk) 02:51, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I like your toolbox by the way, very nice. Shubinator (talk) 03:35, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. It's at User:Dravecky/DYKtools if you want to link to it. - Dravecky (talk) 03:40, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Oregon DYKs

 * Thank you! - Dravecky (talk) 03:20, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Need a Little Help
If aren't too busy, I need some help finding some information. There is a new network that has started or about to start called Inspirational Country Radio. I want to make an article about it, but outside of it's bare bones website, I can't find any information about the network...like ownership, etc. I tried emailing the network, but got no response....so, I come to you. You are pretty good at digging up information on things. If you are not too busy, could ya help? -  NeutralHomer •  Talk  • April 12, 2009 @ 01:58
 * I take it you have busy :) No worries.  I am still hoping that they email me back.  I will keep looking for information via "The Google".  Take Care... NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • April 17, 2009 @ 02:34
 * Sorry, this week has been crazy (taxes, etc.) and I've spent almost no time on the Wikipedia. I'll try to find some stuff in the next few days, probably Monday at this rate. - Dravecky (talk) 02:38, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I completely forgot about tax season (duh!). Take your time, since the article hasn't been made yet, it isn't that big of a rush :)  Take Care... NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • April 17, 2009 @ 02:59

DYK picture swap
Hi, was informed that you might be able to assist assist regarding Talk:Main_Page Thanks! Sasata (talk) 07:21, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Note to myself
This source can be mined for much info on Oregon radio stations. - Dravecky (talk) 07:07, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * http://www.thedalleschronicle.com/news/2007/01/news01-31-07-02.shtml

DYK for KSHO

 * Thanks! - Dravecky (talk) 10:30, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

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Delievered by SoxBot II (talk) at 16:12, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Irony at WJEC
I'm just finishing cleaning up the aftermath of your renaming of the article for radio station WJEC, and one of the incoming links to WJEC was your talk page archive #3 which included this text from you: "Image:WJEC.png has a perfectly good fair use rationale. The problem is that someone else has moved the article from WJEC to Welsh Joint Education Committee. But, because this is Wikipedia, it is my fault that the the user who moved the article did not update the image's fair use rationale, in just the same it will be my fault the next time someone decides to update the fair use rationale guidelines, making all images I've uploaded in the past invalid." I thought you'd appreciate the irony that this time it was your move of the article at WJEC that required the updating of a fair use template (this time for the radio station's logo). It's no big deal—I just thought you'd get the same kind of chuckle out of this that I did. - Dravecky (talk) 04:19, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess there is a certain sense of irony!
 * Technically, I didn't move the article, but as I requested the move, I did spend a while fixing some incoming links (here, here, here and here). Alas, another user changed one of my edits, which is where you came in to fix it.
 * I deliberately left the radio station's fair use rationale because the excellent FairuseBot now fixes these rationales automatically. The previous issue about the exam board's logo was because BetacommandBot found the image and rudely shout at me, when I'd done nothing wrong (hence the rant which you quoted above). Luckily, that bot has now been banned.
 * An extended version of the discussion is available, if you're interested.
 * Thank you for updating the radio station's rationale. This is the way Wikipedia should work: users working together, not bots shouting at people.
 * Thanks. - Green Tentacle (talk) 13:53, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, I meant your original move of WJEC to WJEC 106.5 FM on 5 April after you'd edited the radio station article to change its apparent name and remove the disambiguation hatnote. - Dravecky (talk) 15:45, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, right. Well the intention was to then move the exam board to WJEC, but this proved impossible (I wasn't aware of the rule change banning page moves over redirects). I kind of froze doing anything then until everything was resolved through the official channels. - Green Tentacle (talk) 17:49, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

A kitten!
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DYK images
The current DYK image isn't protected at Commons. We're intentionally not protecting at Commons to show the developers that the cascading protection doesn't work all the time. Anyways, could you do a temporary upload of the image and NOT manually protect it? Shubinator (talk) 02:13, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict)Okay, it's uploaded (complete with c-uploaded tag) but not protected. Good luck. - Dravecky (talk) 02:18, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Looks like the cascading protection kicked in, unfortunately (fortunately?). Shubinator (talk) 02:17, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for 2009 Medair TC-HEK helicopter crash
Hi! Thanks so much for your contribution. Cheers. CeeGee (talk) 18:21, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK update
If you're around, I can do credits. From queue 5. Shubinator (talk) 05:01, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. Follow this link to do the credits.  Thanks! - Dravecky (talk) 05:12, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. Thank you! By the way, I was looking for one of our DYK next update assemblers, and stumbled across this...very interesting. Shubinator (talk) 05:13, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Very, very interesting, indeed. - Dravecky (talk) 05:39, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Another, from queue 3. I can credit. Shubinator (talk) 05:50, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Might want to shuffle it; all the bios are clumped, and a Vietnam hook isn't quirky. The radar hook I think would be best as last. Shubinator (talk) 05:53, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, update accomplished so now I'll shuffle as appropriate. Thanks for doing the credits! - Dravecky (talk) 05:55, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Shuffling done as best I can. Too many bios and not a well-built queue. - Dravecky (talk) 05:58, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for doing the update! Yeah, we've got a few greener next update assemblers. By the way, could you change the article title link in T:DYK/Q6, third hook from the bottom, so it doesn't point to a disambiguation page (think it should be Tully (film))? I didn't realize dab pages could be nominated for DYK :P Shubinator (talk) 06:04, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. Nice catch. - Dravecky (talk) 06:12, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! It's Splarka's DABfinder tool that found it. Shubinator (talk) 06:16, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

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WSYA now on the air
Just to give you a heads-up: I removed the "future" references from the WSYA page as, believe it or not, it is now on the air. I heard it for myself and there is also a reference on the front page of their website. Arob22 (talk) 03:07, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * That's great news, and only 11 months late! - Dravecky (talk) 17:18, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

SS Baltic
Golly, I didn't even nom that one. Someone must have done it for me :) Gatoclass (talk) 09:46, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, wait, yes I did, I just thought it had been promoted already :) Gatoclass (talk) 09:49, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey
Got anything I can do? I am kinda in a "Siberia" at the moment and don't want to do much so my name is popping up everywhere. - <small style="border:1px solid #990000;padding:1px;"> NeutralHomer •  Talk  • April 23, 2009 @ 04:15

Thanks dude!
Hi Dravecky. Just a brief thanks for the improvements/revisions to the new Wiki I created for KTUF. Its still kind of a work in progress, and I'm still rather new at creating whole entries, so grateful for the help. Have a good day! Sector001 (talk) 18:08, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:WAVH-FM logo.PNG)
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 * Graphic improperly removed from article restored, tag removed. - Dravecky (talk) 09:00, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Note to myself
Look into KLMG-FM and KTTA (FM) situation. -- Dravecky (talk) 16:37, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * And now that mess has been untangled. Yay. - Dravecky (talk) 07:21, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

WXMM
Ok Then But Do You mind if I put the New Call letters in the description of the page and when it becomes offical, do you mind if I change the name from WXMM to WVHT? - unsigned comment left at 20:34 27 April 2009 (UTC) by Bbabybear02
 * If and when the call letters are changed, the proper procedure is to update the existing article then move it to the new call sign. Do not add any new call sign to the article in any way until it's been made official by the FCC. - Dravecky (talk) 01:36, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * According to the Call Sign Query site from the FCC, the new call sign will be WVHT. It was taken by Max Media on Monday the 27th. - <small style="border:1px solid #990000;padding:1px;"> NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • April 28, 2009 @ 01:42
 * That's great, and when it becomes official, changes can be made. - Dravecky (talk) 01:48, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, I know...just wanted to update you, so you know everyone was on the right track :) - <small style="border:1px solid #990000;padding:1px;"> NeutralHomer •  Talk  • April 28, 2009 @ 01:49

WJMA-FM
If you have some time, could you take a look at the WJMA-FM page. The History section, in particular, needs some work, but I am just not sure what to do with it. There are alot of mismatched sections and alot of sections without references. Since I am still "lurking" from that run-in on the WSLK page, would you mind taking a look at your leisure? Take Care...<small style="border:1px solid #990000;padding:1px;"> NeutralHomer •  Talk  • April 28, 2009 @ 18:05
 * I've done a bit of poking at it but, yes, it needs better referencing. - Dravecky (talk) 05:18, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

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DYK update
Another update due, from queue 2. I can do credits. Shubinator (talk) 15:46, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Victuallers got it. Shubinator (talk) 16:26, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK twofer

 * Thanks! - Dravecky (talk) 05:05, 30 April 2009 (UTC)