User talk:Dravecky/Archive 8c

June 2009

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DYK? paraphrase
That cracked me up! Thanks for the laugh. Hopefully both sides get the message by now. Carpet Crawler message me  06:09, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I hope everybody takes it in the same spirit. Man, all the cool stuff happens while I'm on vacation. - Dravecky (talk) 06:12, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
 * This is why one never takes a vacation. You ALWAYS miss something exciting. ;) Carpet Crawler  message me  06:20, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

KWOD to KBZC; KVXX to KWOD
Hey, I thought you were on vacation! Just a heads-up for you — there's a talk page problem that's been left behind by this move. Talk:KWOD is redirecting to Talk:KBZC as a result of the move of the associated page. However, that redirect needs to be deleted, as Talk:KVXX didn't move along with its page. Mlaffs (talk) 00:27, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I am, but I couldn't help checking in. (It's a disease, I know.)  I'm on it.  - Dravecky (talk) 05:10, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey
Let me remind you that you are "taking a short vacation". If you won't take a vacation, we will take it for you.....on you, of course :) Hope you are having fun....now log off and have fun :) -  NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • 01:00, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Happy WikiBirthday!
Dravecky,

It looks like it's been exactly 2 years since you joined Wikipedia; happy WikiBirthday! It's my pleasure to give you this cake. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 20:38, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * And a happy Wiki-birthday from me too! (I love that Brave Combo song, by the way.) – Quadell (talk) 13:31, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, this is seriously cool ...
WikiProject Television Stations/Missing/New - mlaffs (unsigned)
 * Yeah, but TV is different from radio in so many important ways. - Dravecky (talk) 06:51, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

King Edits
Been trying to reach you via email, but it appears the email system is down because I am not even getting my copies of the emails :) Would you please review the King page in Alabama. We have been updating some of the state officials and we are striving to keep a NPOV. I need to move on to the next one and I would appreciate it if you would review what we have done as a courtesy to see if you think we have successfully kept the a neutral balance while reducing some redundancy and wordy-ness:) If you think it is fine, can we then request to lock down the page for everyone except administrators as the campaign season is starting and both the pro and con people can get rabid with their delete buttons! Thanks Gray10k (talk) 22:08, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You'd do better to post an announcement on the WikiProject Alabama talk page. I'm concerned by your stated conflict of interest as regards King, especially as you've significantly altered cited text to be more positive about King and I'm unable to check the offline sources to see if the sources actually support your edits.  Um, and who is "we"?  I would oppose any request to "lock down" the article on several grounds, notably that we don't typically do preemptive page protection. - Dravecky (talk) 23:46, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to hear about the power failure. I know the rain has been really bad there. If you can send me a message from contact user email link I can send you pdf's of all the articles used in citations. Being more favorable to King is not the mission. The information on Alabama officials is almost all negative with little to no positives included in any of them. There is far too much opinion included in them. For example, on the King page regarding the cite about him being a possible gubernatorial candidate the author included that most professionals considered such to be laughable. After getting the Auburn-Opelika paper to email an archive of the article, that wording, nor anything close to it was there, not to mention the characterization of 'most'. The mission here is to remove any opinion from the writing unless such is documented in the article being cited. I sought you out and invited you to edit, alter and remove anything that you think includes any opinion that you would not think to be cited by the article. I would even welcome a challnge situation or a blanket overview of the articles from which we have created the citations. I came to you because you have been active in editing this page and you profess to seek a NPOV. The mere fact that I have gone through so much to seek you out and that I have invited you to review such in hopes of finding a mutual NPOV should be of comfort to you. If you are not interested or if you lack time I will be happ to contact another administrator and ask them for an independent review and edit to ensure that our additions and removals of previous uncited and opinionated statements did not inadvertantly include pro-king dialogue. Let me say this though, if by moving the document from an opinionated uncited negative toned article to a fact based, no opinioned neutral position article gives the impression of creating a 'more' pro-king article - then I would have to agree. The intention of wikipedia, or any enclyopedia, is not to create opinion but rather share the facts and pointing the reader to additional research and let them craft their own opinions from that. If you don't mind I would sincerely appreciate knowing if you have any desire to help.72.151.166.209 (talk) 23:08, 11 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gray10k (talk • contribs)

KISN heads up
There's an AFD on KISN (Portland). It looks like it could use some love, and I'm guessing you are a good person for it. tedder (talk) 00:01, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Happy to help but I'm in hour twelve of a storm-induced power failure so my computers and net connection are down. What I can do on this phone is quite limited and now that battery is getting low. It looks like the AfD is going well but I'll be happy to look at the article when the lights come back on.  --Dravecky (talk) 11:44, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

DYK feedback
Hi there. I've been an occasional contributor and reviewer at DYK. Today I made my first attempt to follow the procedures for moving material to Prep area 1, including generating credits, and removing the items from the discussion page. I would appreciate feedback from yourself or another regular as to whether my actions were correct. Can I also anticipate three things: there's only one US item out of seven, because most of the older noms that had been reviewed were non-US; I went up to seven hooks rather than six to get the box looking 'full' on the main page; and I know something is supposed to be done for the image, but I wasn't confident of what, so I haven't done anything. I'd really appreciate an explanation of that bit of the process. I'm posting this message to Dravecky, Casliber and Royalbroil, so whoever's around can ping me at my talkpage. Thank you! hamiltonstone (talk) 00:51, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

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Reactivating Notability (TV and radio stations)
I think you didn't get my point. I want a page that reflects the current consensus, not a change to said consensus. Pretty much like writing a code that reflects jurisprudence. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 00:07, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * And I'm saying that Notability (media) already exists so there's no need to resurrect a long-dead, inaccurate essay to duplicate that effort. - Dravecky (talk) 00:15, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * And my point is, if that is so, it should be made easier to find. You wrote, "The essay you unearthed makes wild claims", which, if you read my initial post, is totally off the mark and totally irrelevant. If there are wild claims in a project page, or if such a page does not reflect the way we work yet is easier to find than the pages that do reflect it, then that's what needs to be fixed, and that is what I want fixed. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 01:06, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Per WP:BOLD, I went ahead and made the changes I proposed. I also closed the now-pointless AfD discussion.

When I talked about a possible upcoming mass AfD, I was referring to the fact that now that the apparent consensus is spelled out, someone might go back and nominate articles that have been overlooked because of a lack of awareness of said consensus. But for my part, I think I'm done. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 13:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It would have been considerate to allow it to close naturally after 7 days as a "keep" rather than withdraw your nomination to avoid a definitive decision. Your efforts to improve Wikipedia are of course appreciated but a little but of WP:BEFORE would have avoided this unnecessary AfD to begin with. - Dravecky (talk) 13:24, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Boba Fett
Okay, wait, wait, there are two Wikipedians who have eaten dinner with Boba Fett? Do we know each other? Or is this a common after-con wrapdown for him? Toronto's SFX here! Sherurcij (speaker for the dead) 23:49, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I've been working with Ben Stevens, now of OfficialPix fame, for more than a dozen years and we've had Jeremy in Dallas for shows many times over the years. - Dravecky (talk) 01:28, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

WFOR AM
Some little research indicates it might be Mississippi's oldest radio station. I need verification, and if so, it's gotta have a pretty big history to boot. Raymie Humbert (local radar | current conditions) 22:12, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Lots of info on WFOR (AM), including some great stuff on Jimmy Swan. I've gotten started on the article and will do more over the next day or so. (I'm storing a few URLs here temporarily while I move from one PC to another.) - Dravecky (talk) 03:43, 20 June 2009 (UTC)


 * http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=rc4MAAAAIBAJ&sjid=dmkDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4586,4252375&dq=wfor+hattiesburg
 * http://books.google.com/books?id=Q4IvV60-QeEC&pg=PA80&lpg=PA80&dq=WFOR+Hattiesburg&source=bl&ots=dlams3DolZ&sig=28axEgJgXovsqWkfXJONzwHvMWI&hl=en&ei=NEA8SvKVI-GntgfGg5UU&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1
 * http://www.wdam.com/Global/story.asp?S=245563
 * http://www.hillbilly-music.com/artists/story/index.php?id=11113

KONK
There is user requesting some updating on a Part 15 station on the WP:WPRS talk page. Problem is, the standard notablity for radio stations doesn't cover Part 15s or Pirates....what do I do? Nom it for deletion, keep it as is, what? I would perfer, if references can be found, to keep it. What are your thoughts on this one? -  NeutralHomer •  Talk  • 17:22, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I've added a couple of references from reliable third-party sources towards notability and verifiability. No, this station does not enjoy the general notability of a licensed radio station but the news coverage so far does appear to push it just over the threshold. - Dravecky (talk) 17:38, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Cool. Thanks for your help :)  I will keep an eye on the page just in case it does get nom'd in the future. -  NeutralHomer  •  Talk  • 17:39, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

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Responded to your DYK questions
Thanks for taking a moment to look at my nomination. Check my response at Template talk:Did you know. DeFaultRyan</b> 20:03, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

KCTJ-LP
If you have a spare moment to move slightly east in your focus, KCTJ-LP could use a stub — its disambiguation page has been marked for deletion because it only has an airport and the redlink for the radio station. Of course, knowing you, you'd probably end up knocking out a complete, well-referenced article in the same length of time it would take someone else to create a stub… If this doesn't tickle your fancy or you don't have the time right now, let me know and I'll rap on Neutralhomer's door next; he's usually up for this sort of work too. Oh, and by the way, I'm fully on board with the formatting change you made to the missing article list; looks great. It's too bad there isn't a way to have it resort the columns automatically when you're removing a listing, or maybe there is and I just don't know it. Mlaffs (talk) 13:40, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * As you now know, I've created the requested article and weighed in on the AfD discussion its absence sparked. - Dravecky (talk) 01:11, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, and thanks for that. I meant to drop by earlier today to say so, but I got sidetracked. Looks like one of the commentators has flipped now too — it's nice when well-reasoned arguments can prove to be persuasive!
 * I was just got home for the night a little bit ago and I'm seeing you all over my watchlist. I think I just figured out why. Am I imagining things, or are you going through and filling in the other redlinks on disambiguation pages one at a time, starting at the top end of the alphabet? Mlaffs (talk) 03:24, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm cleaning up the KAs. It occurred to me that if I threw out a list of good KAs as examples that I'd better clean up the bad ones before anybody noticed.  (Shh!)  But I'm not just filling in the redlinks—in a lot of cases I'm completely replacing the dab page with an article and hat note.  It's cleaner, better, and makes far more sense in the long run when the radio station has no suffix and is thus the obvious primary identification. - Dravecky (talk) 03:39, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

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