User talk:Drdarrow

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Article for deletion
Hello, I thought I should let you know that I have nominated the article Phoon that you have created for deletion because I am not convinced of its notability. If you don't think it should be deleted, I suggest you weigh in on the discussion at Articles for deletion/Phoon. Thanks. Heimstern Läufer 23:48, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

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October 2012
Please do not write or add to an article about yourself, as you apparently did at David R. Darrow. Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged – see our guideline on writing autobiographies. If you create such an article, it may be deleted. If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy for articles about living people, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later (see Wikipedians with articles). If you wish to add to an existing article about yourself, please propose the changes on its talk page. Please understand that this is an encyclopedia and not a personal web space or social networking site. If your article has already been deleted, please see: Why was my page deleted?, and if you feel the deletion was an error, please discuss it with the deleting administrator. Thank you. AllyD (talk) 21:34, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

AutoBio
I appreciate the need to limit autobiographies. I have tried to make mine as neutral as possible, and would gladly remove content you feel is too self-promotional. I have a substantial and growing number of viewers of my free internet broadcast that simple wish to know more about me and my background. I am only trying to serve that need. I doubt anyone there will create an article about me, as they are artists... (a little dig there on my own demographic). I have tried to make it informative and interesting, so I beg your indulgence as I hone it. Would it make any difference if someone else posts the same info? Or does someone associated with WP simply decide they don't think it's relevant. While WP does have clearly defined 'rules' the implementation can sometimes feel quite subjective and left to human interpretation, such as the debate on the article for Phoons (the result of WP's decision resulting in widespread ignorance, rather than clarity, on how the term originated though used correctly worldwide).drdarrow (talk) 21:48, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of File:Dave2009Twitter.jpg


A tag has been placed on File:Dave2009Twitter.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F9 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the image appears to be a blatant copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted images or text borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Proposed deletion of David R. Darrow


The article David R. Darrow has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * No independent and reliable references to be found. References for the book covers do not mention Darrow.   Article is written by Mr. Darrow.

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Please, I am trying to cooperate as best I can with limited available resources. This career was started in a time before come computers, ULRs, sourcing, etc. Ironically, I own (have in my possession) nearly all described artwork and more. People who contracted me can verify it. The fact that I cannot link to a URL or cite a printed work does not diminish it's accuracy or relevance. The field of Illustration is, in the opinion of many, a dying field, easily 1/10th the market it was in my younger days. Please don;t let today's sense of relevance cause its actual relevance in history to disappear.

I can provide photos of myself holding the actual artwork, but somehow in the WP world that is insufficient proof.

If WP is actually what it claims to be, there must be allowances for 'un-citable' claims and 'auto-biograhies.' Deciding today who/what is significant by an unquantifiable measure of citation steals truth and information form the public for and by whom WP exists.

My personal sense of integrity does not allow me to exaggerate or create fiction about the accomplishments or relevance of that which I have detailed. It is all true and, not only without exaggeration, but largely understated. My purpose in providing this information is to relate facts about an actual living person who is contributing to at least a portion of society, encouraging excellence and perseverance.

drdarrow (talk) 07:18, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of David R. Darrow


The article David R. Darrow has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * autobio with of notability

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 08:05, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

David R. Darrow
Per WP:SOURCE, all articles must have independent, reliable references in order for the article to stay. Without these references the article will be deleted. It doesn't matter if the information is true or false, because there is no way to independently verify anything without references. Please add them

Re: Deleted Page, David R. Darrow
Also, as you are writing by yourself, please read Conflict of interest. You may only add non-controversial edits. Everything you add must be sourced. Bgwhite (talk) 08:08, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Is all that work done previously now completely for nothing? Does WP allow no appropriate time for researching external links for better sourcing? I have turned up |a worthwhile, encyclopedic reference to substantiate the involvement of David R. Darrow on the production of Dungeon Master. But now, no such page on Darrow exists. drdarrow (talk) 17:55, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * See WP:USERFY for processes for requesting that a copy of a deleted article be retrieved. AllyD (talk) 18:03, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the resource. I find this process to be extremely frustrating. I gather that there is an inside 'club' of WP Experts that have a good grasp of the whole process, but find that they are quite exclusive on the whole, and thus perhaps unwittingly contaminate the pool of useful information due to their own lack of knowledge or interest on certain subjects or persons. It's oxymoronic. Walls of protection are also keeping out knowledge-seekers. drdarrow (talk) 18:11, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Over a week was given to bring the article upto snuff.
 * There is no "club" of experts. All you have to do is ask for help.  Nobody around here is knowledgeable about everything as we all have our own fields of interest.
 * |a worthwhile, encyclopedic reference is not reliable. It is one person's attempt to document.  Nothing is given about the sources he used unless it was a scan of something such as the manuals, the scan of the manuals is ok to use. Bgwhite (talk) 20:41, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. How might I use that user's scan of the manuals to make mine ref more reliable? And why is it a scan of the copy of the manual *I* have is of no use? drdarrow (talk) 21:05, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Depends on the scan. If the scan is of a manual, it can be used to source basic facts, such as authorship or rules of the game.  A scan of a magazine article can be used as any magazine article would.
 * We live in the world of Photoshop. In theory, you could doctor up the scan to say anything and put it up on your site. A scan on a neutral, third-party sites makes doctoring less likely. There is differing levels of neutral sites, flickr is not too reliable where as a site dedicated to publishing scans on a particular game would be more reliable. Bgwhite (talk) 21:55, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * A huge challenge for me is that some significant works of mine were "pre-internet" so many resources that "should be" simply don;t exist... Interviews from magazines, etc, which never documented anything digitally. Take for example RetroGamer magazine... there's a bit of "lint" in the forums as evidence of my interviews, but no digital editions exist; all physical copies are out of print; no one is motivated to change that.
 * A | Google search shows evidence of my involvement with Dungeon Master (game) but I don't know how YOU will determine reliability...

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