User talk:Dreamy Jazz/Archive 3

Disappointed
I know it is frustrating to have consensus go against you (Trust me, I've been on that side many times), but I am disappointed you took your toys and went home rather than at least hanging around a bit to help with the cleanup in spite of your frustration. There are thousands of links you (or your bot) added to now deleted portals that are now red and have to be removed, and by subst'ing User:Dreamy Jazz/tag onto the portal subpages (rather than just transcluding it), there are now thousands of subpages where the subst-ed text has to be removed manually by other editors. Oh well. UnitedStatesian (talk) 12:57, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I have not the time now IRL and it has been chance that portal issues started at the same time. The first issue seems unnecessary anyway, as redlinked portals are not shown to the user. They are not really doing any harm being there, bar the at max 15 or so more characters in the page character count. If you want to remove them you could use AWB. The second issue can be dealt with using AWB. Just create a list of "what links here" to the now deleted deletion page, and then find and replace the text out from each page. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 06:29, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your clarifying, and for the advice. I hope real life give you opportunity to come back to the project some day. Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 13:40, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Undeletes
Hello Dreamy Jazz, per your request at WP:IANB, I've restored your common js and css files. Please take note, your files include imports from other pages that may have changed since you imported them. If you have issues you can deactivate your common.js file by using this link. Best regards, — xaosflux  Talk 15:32, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * thanks. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 15:33, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * thanks. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 11:54, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Message from Abhishekx7

 * in re:

i wont do the removal of tag on srvrr but you must understad that its not advertising — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhishekx7 (talk • contribs)
 * Yes. It. Is. Sources show that the company aims to collaborate with google in future and that it would make data transfr lot more simple. without at least several independent and reliable sources is 100% advertising. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 09:23, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

i will change it, sorry for that, please dont delete it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhishekx7 (talk • contribs) 09:25, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * It isn't just that though. There are other reasons, such as there are no sources for this company (except from the companies own pages), so it isn't notable. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 09:27, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

that is a new company, it may not be refrenced, numerous articls ar not refernced for vrious reasons, that dosn't make them advertising — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhishekx7 (talk • contribs)
 * That is not an reason for keeping the article. Wikipedia articles are only kept once they have the sources. Also because you are keeping on removing the speedy deletion tag, you have been reported to the administrators, who will decide whether to block you. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 09:33, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that anyone can edit, but only if they follow the rules and edit competently. It is up to you to read the rules and follow them, and to edit competently. If you don't, it may be considered disruptive and you may be blocked. Your recent edits have been disruptive and constitute sufficient reason to block to prevent further disruption. If you are blocked and edit without logging in you may be banned permanently for block evasion, which means you can never come back. Please take this as a relatively friendly warning, and either learn the rules and follow them, or don't edit here, It is your choice. If you think you are right and everyone here is wrong, it is your responsibility to prove that with sufficient evidence from reliable sources before continuing with disputed edits. Cheers, &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter Southwood (talk): 10:57, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * thanks. I'll put this in my appreciation page. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 11:58, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

New Section

 * in re:

Hope you reconsider deleting my post. Wiki4206969 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki4206969 (talk • contribs) 16:12, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Dreamy Jazz is not a sysop and, as such, cannot delete/undelete pages. See WP:REFUND, although it is unlikely to be undeleted. Kb03 (talk) 16:17, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Hello!
I appreciate the welcome, I will be sure to check out this Teahouse when I have more time, thank you :) Eluxplosion (talk) 18:41, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * your welcome. Don't hesitate to ask questions if you have any. Happy editing, Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 19:47, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Copy/Paste

 * in re:

Greetings and thank you for your review. I had originally tried to edit the sf.citi wiki using my current draft copy however it was redacted and I was told to reach out to one of you for editing. So I created a draft with that same copy.

msjones (talk) 20:59, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , if the content is the same which was removed from the article, it is a direct copy and paste from sources. This isn't allowed. If it is your own words, a report showed that several sentences were also present in their own website. I would advise that you remove anything which you have copied and pasted. Also, a AfC editor will come along soon to approve or reject the draft you have submitted. They will most likely reject it, as it is written in a promotional way. For example sf.citi helps uphold the San Francisco legacy of supporting innovative thinking and serving all San Franciscans. with the only source to their own website is very promotional. My advise is to try and write the draft in a way which is less promotional. This may mean rewriting the entire draft, but this may have to be as the draft won't be accepted in the way it is currently written. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 21:07, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

This is terrific additional context for me to give back to sf.citi - I'm honestly just formatting this. I'm really enjoying learning! Thank you again. msjones (talk) 21:10, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Tags
I'm having problems finding some of the G6 templates for the Portal:Kylie Minogue portal. I've checked all the subpages, and subpages of those subpages, but several persist on the main portal page. Maybe you can figure it out?! North America1000 20:24, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , the deletion notice was still present on the box-header subpage. I have not been able to do a run of pages with the deletion notice yet as I don't currently have permission to use AWB, but have requested it back. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:26, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I thought I removed it from there, but apparently I spaced out about it. Time for a break. North America1000 20:32, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , maybe a cup of tea might help. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:34, 10 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Just so you know, part of this process has been reverting the portals back to versions prior to when the automation tinkering began. These portals in an automated form stand a chance to be deleted, even if previous versions exist, because I'm of the opinion that some users just don't research by looking at revision histories. It's pretty clear at MfD at this point that many people don't like automated portals. A worst case scenario is that a portal with significant curation, that is presently automated or has aspects of automation in it, will be then WP:EAGERly nominated for deletion and then deleted per a flurry of multiple "per nom" !votes, without any consideration taken regarding previous versions. So, since it sounds like you plan on helping out, what do you have in mind? Are you only going to revert the additions of the G6 tags, or are you also going to work on portal reversions? Just need to know, so I can plan accordingly. North America1000 21:09, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , I can do both. I was waiting for AWB access to do the removal of the deletion notices. I am technically still busy, but a AWB run here and there isn't much to ask. I don't know really where to start with reverting automation replacement, so I won't unless there is a list of portals needing converted back into their previous formats. I can only think of using the list of all portals archive pages and looking for portals with subpages, but this may not catch all portals. In answer, I'll run with AWB every so often over portal pages linking to the deletion page and I'll do what I can in reverting portals back to the old versions. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 21:17, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 21:17, 10 April 2019 (UTC)


 * , I am generating a list of portals which existed before 4-22-2018 (using WikiProject Portal/List of all portals/Archive/4-22-2018) and are in the category Category:Single-page portals. This should catch most of them. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 21:35, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I think there is an easier way, with the following 2 "What links heres:" Number 1 and Number 2. UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:46, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * that is what I was already going to do for the first task. The second task of reverting automated portals back to their non-automated version is what I was dealing with above and can't be done with that method. Sorry for any confusion. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 21:50, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the input anyway. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 21:51, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

here is the list. I used a quick and dirty python script to compare the category and the archived list. I would like to say that this will hopefully cover all portals, but there may be false positives and missed portals in this list, so it isn't comprehensive: Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 22:06, 10 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Portal:A-League
 * Portal:A. R. Rahman
 * Portal:A Nightmare on Elm Street
 * Portal:Academy Awards
 * Portal:Acadia
 * Portal:Adelaide
 * Portal:Adele
 * Portal:Aesthetics
 * Portal:Agriculture
 * Portal:Ahmadiyya
 * Portal:Ahmedabad
 * Portal:Alabama
 * Portal:Alaska
 * Portal:Algebra
 * Portal:Algeria
 * Portal:American Revolutionary War
 * Portal:American Samoa
 * Portal:Amsterdam
 * Portal:Amusement parks
 * Portal:Anabaptism
 * Portal:Analytical chemistry
 * Portal:Anarchism
 * Portal:Anatomy
 * Portal:Ancient Egypt
 * Portal:Ancient Near East
 * Portal:Ancient Rome
 * Portal:Andhra Pradesh
 * Portal:Andorra
 * Portal:Anglicanism
 * Portal:Angola
 * Portal:Anguilla
 * Portal:Animal rights
 * Portal:Animals
 * Portal:Ankara
 * Portal:Antarctica
 * Portal:Anthropology
 * Portal:Apple Inc.
 * Portal:Archaeology
 * Portal:Arctic
 * Portal:Argentina
 * Portal:Ariana Grande
 * Portal:Arijit Singh
 * Portal:Arizona
 * Portal:Arkansas
 * Portal:Armenia
 * Portal:Arminianism
 * Portal:Arthropods
 * Portal:Artificial intelligence
 * Portal:Asia
 * Portal:Asian Americans
 * Portal:Asian Games
 * Portal:Astrobiology
 * Portal:Astrology
 * Portal:Atheism
 * Portal:Atlanta
 * Portal:Atlantic Coast Conference
 * Portal:Austin
 * Portal:Australian Capital Territory
 * Portal:Australian rules football
 * Portal:Austria
 * Portal:Avril Lavigne
 * Portal:Ayyavazhi
 * Portal:Azerbaijan
 * Portal:Aztec mythology
 * Portal:Backstreet Boys
 * Portal:Bacon
 * Portal:Badminton
 * Portal:Bahrain
 * Portal:Ballet
 * Portal:Baltimore
 * Portal:Bangalore
 * Portal:Bangladesh Liberation War
 * Portal:Bangladesh Premier League
 * Portal:Barbados
 * Portal:Basketball
 * Portal:Battlestar Galactica
 * Portal:Beijing
 * Portal:Belarus
 * Portal:Belize
 * Portal:Berbers
 * Portal:Bermuda
 * Portal:Beyoncé
 * Portal:Bhutan
 * Portal:Bible
 * Portal:Bihar
 * Portal:Björk
 * Portal:Blues
 * Portal:Bob Dylan
 * Portal:Body modification
 * Portal:Bolivia
 * Portal:Bon Jovi
 * Portal:Books
 * Portal:Boston
 * Portal:Boxing
 * Portal:Briarcliff Manor, New York
 * Portal:Brighton
 * Portal:Bristol
 * Portal:British Army
 * Portal:British Library
 * Portal:British Virgin Islands
 * Portal:Britney Spears
 * Portal:Brunei
 * Portal:Buckinghamshire
 * Portal:Buffy the Vampire Slayer
 * Portal:Buses
 * Portal:Calgary
 * Portal:Cambodia
 * Portal:Cameroon
 * Portal:Canberra
 * Portal:Cape Verde
 * Portal:Capitalism
 * Portal:Carnatic music
 * Portal:Catalonia
 * Portal:Cayman Islands
 * Portal:Celts
 * Portal:Censorship
 * Portal:Central African Republic
 * Portal:Central America
 * Portal:Cetaceans
 * Portal:Chad
 * Portal:Channel Islands
 * Portal:Charles Dickens
 * Portal:Chhattisgarh
 * Portal:Christian democracy
 * Portal:Cincinnati
 * Portal:Cleveland
 * Portal:Coatbridge
 * Portal:Colombia
 * Portal:Comedy
 * Portal:Comics
 * Portal:Comoros
 * Portal:Computing
 * Portal:Construction
 * Portal:Cook Islands
 * Portal:Cooking
 * Portal:Costa Rica
 * Portal:Cotton
 * Portal:Crawley
 * Portal:Crime
 * Portal:Crimea
 * Portal:Cryptozoology
 * Portal:Culture
 * Portal:Cyprus
 * Portal:Dacia
 * Portal:Daman and Diu
 * Portal:Dance
 * Portal:Democratic Republic of the Congo
 * Portal:Derbyshire
 * Portal:Disco
 * Portal:Dominican Republic
 * Portal:Earth
 * Portal:East Timor
 * Portal:Economics
 * Portal:Ecuador
 * Portal:Education
 * Portal:El Salvador
 * Portal:Elections
 * Portal:Electromagnetism
 * Portal:Equatorial Guinea
 * Portal:Esperanto
 * Portal:Estonia
 * Portal:European Union
 * Portal:Evolutionary biology
 * Portal:Example
 * Portal:Extinction
 * Portal:Feminism
 * Portal:Fiji
 * Portal:Finland
 * Portal:Football in Malaysia
 * Portal:Football in the Philippines
 * Portal:France
 * Portal:French Polynesia
 * Portal:French Revolution
 * Portal:French and Francophone literature
 * Portal:Geology
 * Portal:Georgia (country)
 * Portal:German Empire
 * Portal:Ghana
 * Portal:Global warming
 * Portal:Grand Canyon
 * Portal:Greater Los Angeles
 * Portal:Grenada
 * Portal:Guam
 * Portal:Guangzhou
 * Portal:Guatemala
 * Portal:Guernsey
 * Portal:Guinea-Bissau
 * Portal:Guyana
 * Portal:Handball
 * Portal:Harz Mountains
 * Portal:Hawaii
 * Portal:Hindu mythology
 * Portal:Hispanic and Latino Americans
 * Portal:Holy See
 * Portal:Hong Kong
 * Portal:Houston
 * Portal:Human body
 * Portal:Human–computer interaction
 * Portal:Hungary
 * Portal:Hunger relief
 * Portal:Hyderabad
 * Portal:Indore
 * Portal:Inland Empire
 * Portal:Israel
 * Portal:Ivory Coast
 * Portal:Jainism
 * Portal:Java
 * Portal:Jazz
 * Portal:Jordan
 * Portal:Jupiter
 * Portal:K-pop
 * Portal:Kazakhstan
 * Portal:Kurdistan
 * Portal:Kuwait
 * Portal:Kyrgyzstan
 * Portal:Language
 * Portal:Laos
 * Portal:Latin America
 * Portal:Latvia
 * Portal:Law enforcement
 * Portal:Lebanon
 * Portal:Left-wing populism
 * Portal:Lesotho
 * Portal:Liberia
 * Portal:Liechtenstein
 * Portal:Lincolnshire
 * Portal:Lithuania
 * Portal:Liverpool
 * Portal:Luton
 * Portal:Luxembourg
 * Portal:Lüneburg Heath
 * Portal:Machine learning
 * Portal:Magic: The Gathering
 * Portal:Maine
 * Portal:Malawi
 * Portal:Maldives
 * Portal:Mali
 * Portal:Malta
 * Portal:Mandatory Palestine
 * Portal:Manipur
 * Portal:Mantodea
 * Portal:Mars
 * Portal:Marshall Islands
 * Portal:Martial arts
 * Portal:Marvel Cinematic Universe
 * Portal:Mauritania
 * Portal:Mayotte
 * Portal:Men's rights movement
 * Portal:Men in Black
 * Portal:Mexico City
 * Portal:Micronesia
 * Portal:Mind and brain
 * Portal:Minecraft
 * Portal:Mizoram
 * Portal:Moldova
 * Portal:Mongolia
 * Portal:Montenegro
 * Portal:Moon
 * Portal:Morocco
 * Portal:Mosses
 * Portal:Mozambique
 * Portal:Mughal Empire
 * Portal:Munich
 * Portal:Myanmar
 * Portal:NASCAR
 * Portal:Namibia
 * Portal:Nepal
 * Portal:Netherlands
 * Portal:New Caledonia
 * Portal:Newar
 * Portal:News
 * Portal:Nicaragua
 * Portal:Niger
 * Portal:Nigeria
 * Portal:Niue
 * Portal:Northern Ireland
 * Portal:Nudity
 * Portal:Number theory
 * Portal:Oceania
 * Portal:Odisha
 * Portal:Oman
 * Portal:Ottoman Empire
 * Portal:Paleobotany
 * Portal:Panama
 * Portal:Papua New Guinea
 * Portal:Paraguay
 * Portal:Patna
 * Portal:Philippines
 * Portal:Portugal
 * Portal:Prague
 * Portal:Precambrian
 * Portal:Prehistory of Asia
 * Portal:Prehistory of Europe
 * Portal:Primates
 * Portal:Pterosaurs
 * Portal:Punk rock
 * Portal:Qatar
 * Portal:Reptiles
 * Portal:Republic of Venice
 * Portal:Republic of the Congo
 * Portal:Republika Srpska
 * Portal:Romania
 * Portal:Rwanda
 * Portal:Saudi Arabia
 * Portal:Seas
 * Portal:Seattle
 * Portal:Seljuk Empire
 * Portal:Senegal
 * Portal:Seventh-day Adventist Church
 * Portal:Seychelles
 * Portal:Shanghai
 * Portal:Shania Twain
 * Portal:Sherlock Holmes
 * Portal:Sierra Leone
 * Portal:Sikkim
 * Portal:Singapore
 * Portal:Society
 * Portal:Solomon Islands
 * Portal:Somalia
 * Portal:Somaliland
 * Portal:South Africa
 * Portal:South America
 * Portal:South Sudan
 * Portal:Southeast Asia
 * Portal:Spanish Empire
 * Portal:Statistics
 * Portal:Strictly Come Dancing
 * Portal:Studio Ghibli
 * Portal:Sudan
 * Portal:Suriname
 * Portal:Switzerland
 * Portal:Syria
 * Portal:São Tomé and Príncipe
 * Portal:Taipei
 * Portal:Tajikistan
 * Portal:Tanzania
 * Portal:Technology
 * Portal:The Bahamas
 * Portal:The Beach Boys
 * Portal:The Gambia
 * Portal:The Supremes
 * Portal:Three Kingdoms
 * Portal:Tibet
 * Portal:Togo
 * Portal:Trinidad and Tobago
 * Portal:Tripura
 * Portal:Tunisia
 * Portal:Turkmenistan
 * Portal:Turtles
 * Portal:Typography
 * Portal:Uganda
 * Portal:Underwater diving
 * Portal:United Arab Emirates
 * Portal:United Kingdom
 * Portal:United Nations
 * Portal:United States Army
 * Portal:United States Coast Guard
 * Portal:United States Marine Corps
 * Portal:United States Merchant Marine
 * Portal:United States Navy
 * Portal:United States Territories
 * Portal:University of Cambridge
 * Portal:Uranus
 * Portal:Uttar Pradesh
 * Portal:Uttarakhand
 * Portal:Uzbekistan
 * Portal:Vatican City
 * Portal:Venezuela
 * Portal:Vermont
 * Portal:Vietnam
 * Portal:Visual arts
 * Portal:Volleyball
 * Portal:Washington, D.C.
 * Portal:Water
 * Portal:Weimar Republic
 * Portal:West Bengal
 * Portal:West Sussex
 * Portal:West Virginia
 * Portal:Western Australia
 * Portal:Western Region (Ghana)
 * Portal:Western Sahara
 * Portal:Wetlands
 * Portal:Wicca
 * Portal:Wiltshire
 * Portal:Winter
 * Portal:Wisconsin
 * Portal:Women's association football
 * Portal:Writing
 * Portal:Wyoming
 * Portal:Yemen
 * Portal:Yoruba
 * Portal:Zambia
 * Portal:Zimbabwe


 * Thanks for the extra data. I'll look into it more later. North America1000 22:08, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

G13

 * in re:

Here you replaced a G13 tag that another editor had removed with an edit summary of "still editing". I don't see how that's appropriate; could you please explain? Huon (talk) 22:07, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I missed that you reverted yourself later. Huon (talk) 22:08, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , it's fine. I had been dealing with speedy deletion notices removed, reinstated this one, but then realised it could be removed if the editor planned to improve it. So I reverted myself. Happy editing, Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 08:06, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Unblock request
Also I am coming out of retirement, because I plan to come back one day in the future to more regular editing and saying I am retired isn't right when I plan to come back. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 11:48, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Welcome back! — python coder (talk &#124; contribs) 21:26, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 08:21, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Message to North America
You would probably need to keep the noedit code on the box header subpages, as many old portals tried to use noedit but couldn't when the parameter was not passed to the template. Removal would mean the reverted portals would then not be fully how they were supposed to be before they were upgraded. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 08:45, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * All right, and thanks for the heads up. Would you mind helping out in removing the G6 notices from the box header and box footer pages? It would really help out.


 * The G6 tag is preventing the reversion of automated portals to pre-automated versions. Due to a lack of markup on the pages, the deletion notice appears repeatedly on main portal pages when attempting to restore original portal content. It's clear that the community is not digging the automated versions, but many are for reverting to pre-automation versions of the portals. The presence of the tag on hundreds of pages is preventing this from occurring. North America1000 08:49, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm blocked and don't have AWB anymore. If you want me to help (and I have the time to help now), I would need to be unblocked and (probably) need AWB access restored. I won't be back at my computer for a few hours, but when I am I'll post here. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 09:11, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Since it's a self-requested block, you should be able to be unblocked by just about any admin, no problemo. However, since I'm involved at this point, others may possibly consider it inappropriate for me to perform the unblock. Per the rationale of at your block log, getting unblocked should be easy. North America1000 11:14, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Done below. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 11:45, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Requested for AWB rights. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 12:24, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I'll do some when I have the AWB rights. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 13:28, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , all portal pages should now not have the deletion notice. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 13:55, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
 * All right, and thanks very much for the follow-up. There may be more if others placed them, but those can be removed as they're found. Thanks again, North America1000 21:35, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , I used "What Links Here" to the deletion page. It should have (and did) catch others using my deletion notice (however, deletion notices which were created by others and did not link to my page won't have been caught (but I don't think there were any)). Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 21:37, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Way cool, even better. Thanks for coming out of your retirement! North America1000 21:40, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Regarding Wikipage Approval
I have created wiki page. Please help me to approve this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Noble_Hospital_Pune — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vinaybhutada1986 (talk • contribs) 10:07, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
 * As noted by, you have not shown how the hospital is notable. Although you have added two sources, it isn't enough to show that the hospital meets our notability guidelines for organisations and companies. The main point from our guideline is A company, corporation, organization, group, product, or service is notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Currently, I don't think that you have shown this. Also because the hosptial exists, does not mean that the hospital is inherently notable (so it means that you need to prove that the hosptial is notable and not that it just exists: See Our guideline on "No inherent notability"). Also you have not responded to my notice about your suspected paid editing. You need to disclose if you are being paid in any way for your contributions to the draft. Details on how you can do this are at your talk page. Please respond before making any more edits.


 * The page will be approved, when (and only when), you have showed that the hospital is notable. This can be done by finding more sources which are independent and reliable. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 11:21, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 11:24, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Message from DAVOS 669
Why is it our account wanna be deleted DJ? DAVOS 669 (talk) 19:58, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , Hello. I marked your userpage for deletion under the speedy deletion criteria as it is a userpage being used only for promotion or publicity, with a username that promotes or implies affiliation with the entity being promoted. Wikipedia is not a web host and such what is on your userpage is not allowed. Note that your userpage being marked for deletion does not mean that your account will be deleted, but means that the page User:DAVOS 669 is marked for deletion. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:07, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

thanks
We understand DAVOS 669 (talk) 20:10, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , ok. If you need help, you can ask me. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:11, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

how can we upload pictures on this account?
Wanna upload album arts and pictures DAVOS 669 (talk) 20:11, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , you can upload your own images at Wikimedia commons. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:23, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

and how long will it take for this account to appear on google
Can you upload music using Wikipedia DAVOS 669 (talk) 20:18, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , the account won't necessarily appear on Google. What you need to do is create a draft article following the steps at Our article wizard. However, from what I can see your music group "DAVOS" is not notable for Wikipedia. For it to be notable, it needs to have been talked about in several independent and reliable sources (see our notability guideline for more information). Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:22, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Merca City

 * in re:

Hi there,

1) Here is the Information ref regarding City of Merca Population, , It's the Fifth Biggest City population wise.

2) Merca Is the Capital City of Lower Shabella Region :

Here are the Reference and will add more soon with ref too

Thank you very Much Cheers ! Capital City Merca (talk) 21:57, 19 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello. You can add back the material as long as you place the citations in with the information. You can learn how to do this by looking at Our introduction on how to add references. If you have any more questions or are unsure how to do this after looking at the guide, don't be afraid to ask me. Happy editing, Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 22:13, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Firo Solutions

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Hey, i think this company is very innovative and are doing unique things, therefor i believe they should have a article on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Firoarticle (talk • contribs)
 * Hello. You need to find independent and reliable sources (e.g. news reports from newspapers not connected to the company). Just sourcing the company in question (Firo solutions) is not enough and your draft won't be accepted until you add these sources. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 10:57, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

alright, thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Firoarticle (talk • contribs) 10:59, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Please respond to the message I have left on your talk page. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 11:01, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

uchi no maid

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the japanese source cited for uza maid outright has it as monthly action so im not sure what source im meant to be adding...? ann got it wrong for whatever reason (see further http://uzamaid.com/books.html, or just the japanese wikipedia page really). 82.14.209.237 (talk) 19:57, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
 * It says in the source that it is Manga Action. The source you provided above I could not translate, but could not see anything resembling monthly action. Please find a source to counteract this, which is used to support it. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:03, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
 * But the line in the Comic Natalie article reads "8月25日発売の月刊アクション10月号（双葉社）では [...] 中村カンコ「うちのメイドがウザすぎる！」の連載が始動する. ", with 月刊アクション being Gekkan Action/Monthly Action? There's no mention of it being published in Manga Action (漫画アクション), which is a different bi-monthly magazine, at all (and the same is true on the website I linked). 82.14.209.237 (talk) 20:13, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
 * It is literally in the text of the page. Use control and F to search for 漫画アクション on and it is there. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:15, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah i misread it. I see what you mean. Ignore above. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:16, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for noticing it and talking with me on my talk page about it. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:17, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I have reinstated your edit. Thanks and happy editing, Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:19, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Kofi Mole Post

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Hi,

I was notified that you rejected a post I created for Kofi Mole.

Please let me know what it is that needs to be worked on or changed ?

Best Regards, Aminu Yunusah — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aminuben (talk • contribs) 23:13, 22 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Sockpuppet_investigations/Daniel_Kobe_Ricks_Jr ~ ToBeFree (talk) 01:56, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , thanks for opening. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 09:47, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Entry for Bathsculinity

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Hi Dreamy Jazz,

I would be grateful if you could give me more details on why this entry was rejected? Is there anything that I can do to edit it so it will be accepted? Many thanks in advance for your help!

Caitlinmcstravick (talk) 11:04, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , I rejected the draft as it seemed to be a entry to a dictionary. However, you have significantly rewritten the draft, so I will re-review it. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 11:10, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , please see your talk page for the comment I have left about the draft. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 11:17, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Draft:GPS Hospitality
Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> Thank you mitch  Mitchellhobbs (talk) 20:29, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , no problem. Well done for the draft by the way. There is one statement I have marked with cn as I couldn't see a source to support this, which is the last sentence in the article, but this is a small issue. Feel free to replace this and add the source to support this. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:32, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Elżbieta Szmytka
Elżbieta Szmytka - we have how many links to that article? How many links showing "deleted" now? I wonder if any reader sees the little "Draft" notice; it took me a while. I believe that "incubation" in draft space is no service to our readers. I will expand her, just not right now. You could just say "missing inline citations", - Kutsch/Riemens and Vienna State Opera are right there already. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:44, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , if you disagree with my move to the draft namespace, feel free to move it back. I moved it as it only created 2 hours before I moved it and it was a BLP without inline citations. I tend base my moving recently created articles to draft namespace based on whether I would pass it at AfC. In this case, I wouldn't accept it as it didn't have the minimum amount of inline citations for a BLP. As I say, if you want to move it back feel free. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 15:58, 27 April 2019 (UTC)


 * I will - now that it's there - not move it back, but let someone independent do it, or youself. I started working. What is your problem though? A soprano with four roles at the Vienna State Opera is notable, even if not cited inline. (It is now, inline, I mean.) An article for which eight links are waiting is notable, no? Likelihood that an article which is a translation is notable is high, and other Wikipedias just don't have this belief in the holy inline citations ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:10, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , I know. I don't have a problem with notability, but that it is a BLP without inline citations which has potentially positive contentious material (per WP:MINREF). I took who she had worked with as the positive contentious material. However, I have seen that you have added a inline citation for that sentence, so will move the draft now. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 16:14, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

The Student Post
Thanks for the help with the citations on The Student Post! Would you suggest I do anything else to increase the likelihood of the article being approved? Msuthny (talk) 16:37, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , it would be good if you could find some independent and reliable sources about the online newspaper. This can be done by searching in google. I couldn't find many, but you may be more successful. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 16:40, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * thanks for your barnstar. I will add to my appreciation page. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 22:06, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Please review the Rabb.it article

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Approx. 21 days ago, you rejected my draft of the Rabb.it article. I finally fixed the issues you pointed out back then. Do you mind looking at it again? Thank you in advance. --91.105.44.7 (talk) 10:50, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I have re-reviewed your draft, but have rejected it again. I have left comments for you there. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 17:09, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * What about now? --91.105.44.7 (talk) 16:39, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you and question
Hey. Thank you for giving me that barnstar. It makes me happy to see somebody recognizing others for their qualities. I've noticed you're a very prolific editor who isn't an admin but wishes to become one. I would like to nominate you for that, but first,I have to check with you for approval and figure out what to say about you. How would you feel about that? If you'd like to push it aside temporarily of find somebody else to nominate you or maybe even do it yourself, that's not a problem with me. Regardless, happy editing and thanks for your service to Wikipedia! :) DrewieStewie (talk) 20:54, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 * , although I am honoured by your suggestion, I am going to be a bit busy in the next few days for a month or two, so plan to go for adminship in a few months. Thank you and happy editing, Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 21:02, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Much respect, stay focused on your life and come to it whenever you feel you have the time. Youll do great when it happens! :) DrewieStewie (talk) 21:18, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Morpeth, Northumberland
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Please review my article

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Hello, thank you for your effort and time that you have with my article about Jakub Tencl. I have made a change according to your instructions. Also, I have tried to add a bit more information so the neutrality could be met. Can you please review this article once again? --DanDvo (talk) 05:41, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , unfortunately there are not many independent references in the draft. It would be good if you could find more. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 09:53, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , thank you for your comment. Unfortunately I am bit cunfused what exactly do you mean. As I understood I need to remove all direct references, is that correct? By the way have you noticed external links with intedependent articles?--DanDvo (talk) 13:03, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , I don't necessarily mean remove references. What I mean is that you should add references. I suggest that you use the external links which you added and are independent to reference the text of the draft in inline citations. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 17:52, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
 * ,thank you for your suggestion, I´ll do that. Please correct me if I am wrong, but in my understanding citation to his autobiography would be also appropriate, isn´t it?--DanDvo (talk) 04:16, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , Not necessarily. However, as long as the autobiography does not present the subject in a promotional way (i.e. the autobiography is based in fact and not in promotional guff) then it should be fine. It is, however, preferable that you use sources independent of the subject. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 08:37, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , I have made changes in the article, I was adding in citations independent sources from external links where it was possible - biography and the book The Mystery of Life. All other links are direct. I think that links in ideas and research are relevant. Any other suggestion? Thank you.--DanDvo (talk) 11:56, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , its looking much better now. I made a couple of copy edits. My suggestion is that if you have more suitable sources, then add them. I will look over the article now. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:10, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , thank you for your edits and effort to make article looks better. I may add one another interview but apart to that can you tell what else is missing? I just now did a few cosmetic changes. If there is anything else what prevents to publish this article, I would appreciate if you could tell me. --DanDvo (talk) 02:18, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Review NORQAIN

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Hi Dreamy Jazz Thank you for your Review of the page NORQAIN. How can we set the references correct? Can we link all the text to our website?

Kind regards Sandro — Preceding unsigned comment added by Friedlisa (talk • contribs) 05:17, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , the draft was declined because it only used references to the companies website. You need to include a range of independent and reliable sources (such as independent newspaper articles etc.). This can be done by searching for sources in google. I have also left a note on your talk page which you will need to respond to before you make any more edits. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 10:17, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Party1967

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Can you help to upload pictures ? Actually I failed to so even I read the helpline — Preceding unsigned comment added by Party1967 (talk • contribs) 20:43, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , it depends on who took the photo. If you took it or own it, you can upload it on using the upload wizard. If you don't own it, you will need to look at our guideline on non-free images. If it is non-free, but acceptable for Wikipedia, post here and I'll tell you how to upload it locally. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:53, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Horse coat color articles

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I see you touched bases on an early close on the Flaxen article. I appreciate your watching this topic. Please note that the editors at WPEQ, many no longer with the project, worked long and hard on these articles, to bring them up to speed based on the scientific knowledge at the time (some have a need for updates). Please don't be letting people who don't understand the topic start moving stuff around willy-nilly, particularly given the tremendous amount of research going on in this area. The move discussion at Flaxen was initiated without notice to WikiProject Equine or the major contributors to this and other articles. Montanabw (talk) 18:45, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
 * , because the article's move was from the closure of an RM discussion, I would suggest that you open a new RM discussion, as currently, your move goes against a closed RM discussion and at least may still prefer the article title you have moved from. Your move may be reverted (I am staying out of this, so this won't be me) on the basis of the RM discussion and perceived opposition to the move.
 * Opening a new RM discussion will allow you to present evidence why the article shouldn't have been moved in a more formal setting and also allow other editors from your wikiproject to present their view. It will also give you precedent, if moved back to (or kept at) the original title, in case a similar RM is opened.
 * If you feel that the closure itself was not right, you may want to consider a move review, however, this would only be for discussing the validity of the closure (and not the arguments).
 * Just to note, the close wasn't early as it had run the 7 day normal length for being open. My discussion with the user was purely bringing into question the neutrality of the close. Also, notice isn't required or usually given (except in large RMs) to wikiprojects or article creators. It has been listed on the article alerts for the WikiProject, although I understand this is something which may have not been checked. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:32, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
 * If you feel that the closure itself was not right, you may want to consider a move review, however, this would only be for discussing the validity of the closure (and not the arguments).
 * Just to note, the close wasn't early as it had run the 7 day normal length for being open. My discussion with the user was purely bringing into question the neutrality of the close. Also, notice isn't required or usually given (except in large RMs) to wikiprojects or article creators. It has been listed on the article alerts for the WikiProject, although I understand this is something which may have not been checked. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:32, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Just to note, the close wasn't early as it had run the 7 day normal length for being open. My discussion with the user was purely bringing into question the neutrality of the close. Also, notice isn't required or usually given (except in large RMs) to wikiprojects or article creators. It has been listed on the article alerts for the WikiProject, although I understand this is something which may have not been checked. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:32, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

Making changes...wanted your input

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Hello! Hope your break is going well! Sorry for the interruption! I was in the process of adding the refs to the Andrew McKeough draft when you declined it. I was just wondering if you could tell me how it looks or give me a few tips on what I should add or where I should go from here. I am a new user and I am trying my best to be the best! --Azimm19 (talk) 01:50, 4 May 2019 (UTC)Alex Z.
 * There are a lot of IMDb sources, which may be best to replace with other sources to support the information, as IMDb can be unreliable. However, if there are not sources it isn't a big deal. I suggest that you while you wait for a review, you can improve and add more relevant citations. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 19:26, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Edits were removed

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You removed two of the edits I made which I know are correct. First edit cousin of Ruth Connell whom she took dancing lessons with was named Ruby. I run Ruth Connell's fansite and know her personally. She has mentioned Ruby many times at conventions. I know this to be accurate. Secondly, her character Rowena is mother to Crowley who is not only a demon but more accurately the King of Hell. This is common knowledge to anyone who watches the show. I'm not sure what else you need. thanks, BrigitteBrigitteJ2019 (talk) 00:54, 9 May 2019 (UTC).
 * , on Wikipedia original research is not allowed. If you want to add back the information, you need to find a source for it first. For example and is one of the longest running female characters on the show! needs to have a source. If you need help how to add references and sources, you can look at Help:References for more information or ask me. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 06:18, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Pastrana Tapestries

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Thanks a bunch for reviewing my article! Wareno (talk) 15:35, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
 * , no bother. I expanded it by adding some references, but what you had written was great. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 15:39, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hopefully my reference-fu will be as good as yours one day. Have a great day. Wareno (talk) 15:48, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Past tense

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Do you speak English? We native speakers describe things that happened in the past in the past tense. You've put laughable errors into an article. Don't do that again. 51.7.23.40 (talk) 22:36, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Please read your talk page. I have said twice now that your edit removes a reference and it won't be accepted because of that (bold for emphasis). Correcting past tense errors is perfectly fine. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 22:37, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
 * So where's the policy or guideline you think applies to my edit, that you think justified putting truly idiotic language errors into an article?51.7.23.40 (talk) 22:40, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Read the above again. If you want it again:
 * "Your edit removed a reference"
 * that is why it was reverted and not because of your useful past tense corrections. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 22:41, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
 * that is why it was reverted and not because of your useful past tense corrections. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 22:41, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
 * that is why it was reverted and not because of your useful past tense corrections. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 22:41, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Illuminati of Avignon

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Hi Dreamy Jazzz,

Thank you for the clarification or explaining to me about the article that I want to write. As you may not know I'm on the Autistic Spectrum and I've come across information about this topic called the Illuminati of Avignon when I was reading an article of a French writer named Antoine-Joseph Pernety and reading a polish wiki article of Tadeusz Grabianka that I translated on my browser. I would like to know if this Illuminati group exists? Because everyone seems to think that Adam Weishaupt is the original Founder of the Illuminati and that's when all of theses NWO-Conspiracists tend to come in.

Thank you for reading this.

Kind Regards Illuminated Snake.
 * I am not sure. It is mentioned in websites (from doing a quick Google search), but these are only websites that seem to have a connection to free masonary (and so may not be independent and reliable), however, there are multiple websites that say it existed. Antoine-Joseph Pernety does not have a inline citation for the information, so I can't say for sure, but there are multiple sources to support the article. If you want, you may want to read some of these sources (and perhaps use a quick Google translate to get the gist) to check if it existed.
 * In summary, I can see a fair number of sources, however, I can't say if it actually existed. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 16:44, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Why did you review a subpage of my userpage?

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I don't think a page that I created just to be transcluded on my userpage needs review. Can I ask why you reviewed it? Invalid OS (talk) 11:36, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * , hello. The new pages feed is enabled for the user space, so as part of my patrolling, I reviewed your userpage. You can see more information at New pages patrol and Page Curation/Help. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 14:09, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'm assuming autopatrolled isn't granted for creating pages in userspace. Invalid OS (talk) 14:31, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * , you assume correctly. According to Requests for permissions/Autopatrolled you would need to have created 25 articles in mainspace (excluding redirects and disambiguation pages). Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 15:59, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you to review my page Guy Cheron

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Hi Dreamy Jazz, Thank you for your comments, I do not understand the reason why you indicated that the data pressented in my page made by my collaborator are not verifiable and how we may proceed in order to satisfy your requirement. For bibliography, each reported publication is a real one, we may provided a PDF if necessary or the web page of the Journal. If other information seems to you not usefull, please tel us which items are concerned. Thank you in advance for your help. Prof. Guy CHERON gcheron@ulb.ac.beGuy Cheron (talk) 06:42, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello. Because original research is not allowed on Wikipedia, you need to include sources to support the information you (or your collaborator) have written. You can find sources by searching in Google for "Guy Cheron". The sources you use need to be independent from you and reliable. Examples of this include a newspaper report about yourself. You can add these sources by using tags (for more information you can look at Help:Referencing).


 * Separate to this, creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged, as may find it hard to write about your self neutrally. However, going through the articles for creation process (which you have done) is a good course of action. If you have further questions, just ask. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 21:09, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Dear Dreamy Jazz,

Sorry, but I try to understand you requirement about the citation of some (not exhautive)of my scientific publications, can I use the reference of the scholar google site where these publications are well referenced? (e.g. https://scholar.google.be/scholar?hl=fr&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=guy+cheron&btnG= If this proposal is correct in which form the related manuscripts must be shortly mentionned (the title and or the name of the authors? or just the google scholar reference?

Thank you in advance,

Guy CHERON, PhD Guy Cheron (talk) 10:00, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
 * , you have included no sources. Please look at your draft Draft:Guy Cheron and add sources to support everything you have written.
 * You can reference your bibliography section by referencing webpages which talk about each book. For example for Central somatosensory conduction in man: neural generators and interpeak latencies of the far-field components recorded from neck and right or left scalp and earlobes. you could reference this to prove you did write it. You can find these by clicking on the books listed in the Google Scholar search, then using the URL for the page for the reference.
 * If you need help with references please see Help:References. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 15:03, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
 * If you need help with references please see Help:References. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 15:03, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
 * If you need help with references please see Help:References. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 15:03, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

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Draft: Mia Scozzafave

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Thank you for your answer. I will review the points and make edits. I am not being paid direct or indirectly by the subject. It's just an attempt to contribute to Wikipedia with media/talent subjects. If you have any corrections/notes, it's appreciated. Thank you Talent media (talk) 17:57, 22 May 2019 (UTC).
 * thanks for replying. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 18:17, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Incorporated more sources

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Hi! Thanks for your comment. I've found several journal sources for my article. I've still kept the reference to Stack Exchange though. Is that fine?

Svennik (talk) 17:33, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * , it should be fine. Although it is a forum, the post itself is based (from what I can see) on the facts and explains it well. The other sources should help to establish notability for this type of complex numbers. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:21, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Wing FTP Server
It seems you declined Draft:Wing FTP Server by some reason. But I want to say, the recent version of WingFTP has a free edition for personal use, so it will be helpful for someone who wants to use FTP server software with Web Client function. And I just edited the draft content and simplify the description, hope you can review it again, thanks! Freedragonfly (talk) 03:56, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The draft you are creating is unlikley to be published in it's current form, as it was deleted through a deletion discussion. You will need to include several sources to show that the software is notable. Currently this is not achieved. Wikipedia is not a manual nor is it a place for advertising and most of the draft is an unsourced features list. I have marked it for speedy deletion and also requested further revision redactions as there was further text which was copied from a copyrighted source. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 07:41, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Request on 14:18:50, 29 May 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Knmedia
Hi, I am not sure why the reliability of the references is not sufficient? The artist is a renowned Welsh Artist who has exhibited widely including the Tate Gallery and is also listed in the Who's Who of Art. Please could you advise which references are unacceptable and how i can rectify this? I have read the guidelines and could do with a little help. Thank you Karl

Knmedia (talk) 14:18, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
 * , the draft you have created (Draft:Dr Yvonne Jones) is a Biography of a living person. This means that extra requirements are needed to ensure that the information in the draft is correct before publishing. This includes having to use inline citations for contentious material (whether postitive or negative or neutral) per our policy on using inline citations. This means that you should cite everything you write using tags.
 * Also, you currently have no references. References can be websites, news reports, books etc. which are used to support the information you write. For example, if I was to write She was the oldest child in the family I would need to find a reference that says that she was the oldest child in the family and then place it in the ref tags.
 * If you want to learn about the basics of how to reference, you can read Help:Referencing for beginners if you haven't already. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 14:30, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
 * If you want to learn about the basics of how to reference, you can read Help:Referencing for beginners if you haven't already. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 14:30, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
 * If you want to learn about the basics of how to reference, you can read Help:Referencing for beginners if you haven't already. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 14:30, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

apologies

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I have now started the Kitty Crowther article in Greek Wikipedia, it already has English/Dutch/German etc versions. Thank you for your notice. Anna — Preceding unsigned comment added by Annaathens (talk • contribs) 14:40, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
 * , no problem. Happy editing, Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 15:49, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

WomenWorking.com Draft Deleted

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I see that you have deleted the article I created for WomenWorking.com because the submission "reads more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia." I would like to contest that on the grounds that I clarified the distinction between what WomenWorking.com is (an online American magazine and blog), and what their mission is. I did not promote or advertise WomenWorking.com. Please let me know specifically what needs to be changed, as I do not believe changes are necessary.

Draft:WomenWorking.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omasado (talk • contribs) 21:45, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
 * , as I am not an administrator, I cannot undelete the page. You will need to contact the deleting administrator . Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 22:20, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Yet more...
Hi Dreamy Jazz: Well, if you're interested, there's yet more G6 tagging that you performed, at some (but not all) of the entries listed at User:UnitedStatesian/Ansh666 REFUND, which I discerned from spot checking entries there. I won't have time to remove them all, and am working on other matters. No worries or pressure, just a notice that there's more, if you're interested in continuing to revert these edits as you have done recently. North America1000 10:24, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , yep. Can do. Will get onto AWB now. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 14:34, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
 * AWB run complete. There should be no undeleted pages with deletion notices. Thanks for letting me know about the new list. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 15:19, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the punctual follow-up. Cheers, North America1000 19:02, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , no problem. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 19:02, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Journal of Paramedic Practice

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While I accept this page was rapidly deleted, the new version contains significantly more citations and I think it would be unfair if it were to be deleted purely because a much shorter version was recently. How can this article be made good enough to be approved? Tannim101 (talk) 18:29, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , as long as you are sure that this version is not substantially identical to the deleted version or reason for the deletion no longer applies (wording from G4), then it should be OK. How much of this version is similar (except citations)? Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 19:12, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , the first paragraph perhaps mostly the same. Difficult to know what more would be expected, article already has more detail and references than other wiki entries about academic journals. any advice? Tannim101 (talk) 19:22, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , Randykitty has done a review of the draft and has commented about it at her talk page. You can see it at User talk:Randykitty. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 19:38, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , I find their justification troubling, as the draft now has multiple sources cited. This page has far more sources cited than for example, the Emergency_Medicine_Journal page. Tannim101 (talk) 19:59, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , that is something that you will need to take up with . From a quick glance, I am unsure if the draft currently meets WP:GNG. This is because there are a lot of sources used in the draft which don't cover the journal with significant coverage. From my quick look, I can only see three sources which cover the journal with more than a trivial mention. They are https://publons.com/journal/66726/journal-of-paramedic-practice, https://associationofairambulances.co.uk/airway/journal-of-paramedic-practice/ and https://www.phecit.ie/PHECC/Publications_and_Resources/Newsletters/Newsletter_Itmes/Autumn_2012/Journal_Of_Paramedic_Practice.aspx. If these sources were indepth, the draft still wouldn't meet WP:GNG as there are only three of them. Furthermore, the first source seems to be a database of journals and has very little information, the second and third sources have more information, but are still relatively small and don't give that much information. Basically, a lot of the sources are mainly focused on other things (i.e. they are a list of journals in the broader field, talk about a person mainly etc.)
 * In summary, to meet WP:GNG the draft needs to have more sources which give non-trivial information about the journal and are reliable and independent. If you can find more of these sources (either one's I missed in my quick check or elsewhere) then Randykitty's concerns may be met. Until then, if the draft was moved into mainspace, it would be deleted via G4 or would be taken back to WP:AfD. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:15, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
 * While I get what you're saying, using emergency_medicine_journal as an example, that uses two references, one is to the Journals own website! the second is just their impact factor being reported. I'm curious how multiple citations of the Paramedic journal are considered insufficient, but 1 external citation on another page is apparently fine? Tannim101 (talk) 20:43, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
 * While I get what you're saying, using emergency_medicine_journal as an example, that uses two references, one is to the Journals own website! the second is just their impact factor being reported. I'm curious how multiple citations of the Paramedic journal are considered insufficient, but 1 external citation on another page is apparently fine? Tannim101 (talk) 20:43, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

The explanation lies in the different ways a journal can be regarded as notable. One is through GNG, which require multiple in-depth sources independent of the journal (which Publons is not, by the way). As Dreamy poutlined above, the draft does not meet GNG. The other way that a journal can be notable is by meeting NJournals (even though it is only an essay, it is generally followed at AfD discussions). A journal meets NJournals if it is included in highly selective databases. The Clarivate Analytics indexes (with the exception of ESCI) are such selective databases and if a journal has an impact factor, it is routinely kept at AfD. Inclusion in Scopus is also regarded as sufficient. CINAHL, I am afraid, is not. The Emergency Medicine Journal is actually quite notable, it's just that the article doesn't show it, as it not only has an impact factor, but is also included in several other reputable databases (Scopus, MEDLINE). Hope this explains things. --Randykitty (talk) 21:12, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Spaghetti999

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[Dreamy Jazz] Thanks for your messages and very helpful feedback. I can confirm that I have no financial benefit or interest in the subject matter. I have edited the text to respond to your helpful comments. Thanks Spaghetti999 (talk) 10:48, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , your welcome. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:22, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Auwal Lawal

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Hello Jazz, I submitted an article about Auwal Lawal, and also followed the guidelines by referencing the the title and marriage as mentioned in the news which are verifiable prints in both online and paper media. Kindly help me clarify where I can source for reference with regards to this entity. Regards. Makizmo (talk) 11:19, 3 June 2019 (UTC)Makizmo
 * , do note that I declined your submission before you added any references. If you think your draft is ready, press "Resubmit" on your draft so that it can be re-reviewed. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 11:38, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * the draft has been rejected again. I suggest that you look on Google (by searching for the subject's name and other key characteristics) or the search engine of your choice. The reason the draft was rejected this time was because the sources did not show the subject is notable enough for a Wikipedia article. To show this you will need to find reliable and independent sources on Auwal Lawal. This includes independent newspapers (that means independent from the subject and free from bias), books etc. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:27, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

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Draft:Flux (machine-learning framework)
Hi, I am the author of Draft:Flux (machine-learning framework). I understood the reasoning for its initial rejection and I am working now to improve it to meet Wikipedia's standard. Two references which you de-linked were actually wrong due to a slip on my part and I have added several other informations and references pertaining to Flux. Before I resubmit the article for review, could you have a look at the current Draft in case I am missing something obvious?

Thank you! Bruno H Vieira (talk) 17:13, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , hello. I have done some cleanup and also added citation needed tags where information is needed. Also the sentence at the end of the first paragraph does not seem to be supported by the source next to the sentence. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:46, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Also, I think a few more sources which are indepedent and reliable wouldn't be a bad idea. It looks like you have since I last declined the draft, so you are going along the right lines. If you have further questions, please ask. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:51, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * thanks you for reviewing the article again, I will soon implement the improvements suggested. I also would like to apologize for messing several links (I see you fixed one more, it is due to the automatic citation generator that likes to eat my links, sorry). Again, thank you very much! Bruno H Vieira (talk) 22:41, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , your welcome and its fine. Happy editing, Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 23:07, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Craig Jones (Royal Navy officer)

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Hi Dreamy Jazz!

Thanks for reviewing the page Craig Jones (Royal Navy Officer)!

I just wanted to ask what sources to Early Life & Education and Early Career for this person would need to be added? There are no published records of Bingley Grammar School that can be referenced. For the Career section there is no public armed forces list for living people (only deceased). The rest of the article has a lot of references and reliable sources.

thanks! Sam

Samcherry5 (talk) 10:28, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
 * , Wikipedia is built on verifiability and original research is not allowed. Therefore, everything you write must be supported by references. This leaves you with two options:
 * find sources for this information
 * remove the information Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 10:50, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi again,

The article is supported by a lot of sources. The original was moved into draft space but no reason was given and it took over 2 months for the review. Ive added further references to the sections you mentioned. Hopefully it should be enough to move to mainspace. If not can you provide some specific feedback with respect to what it needs please?

thanks Samcherry5 (talk) 17:24, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
 * , can't see anything in particular from a quick look. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 14:53, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi, What happens next with the article? I guess I need to wait again for it to be reviewed? is there anything else you think that can be done? Samcherry5 (talk) 14:51, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

thanks! Finaly managed to work out how to reference birth and access the Navy Lists to reference career so have re-added section with proper sources! When you get a moment can you have another look so hopefully its ready for mainspace :) Samcherry5 (talk) 18:42, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

ServicarBus.jpg

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I reverted it to the original low quality format. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Railpage (talk • contribs)
 * I presume you are talking about File:ServicarBus.jpeg. What is it about the file you want to ask me about (I am unsure why you are telling me you reverted to an older version on this file). Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 22:37, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

how to save changes to a draft
Hello Dreamy Jazz, I am working on the draft for David Samrick (thank you for putting it back in drafts). I added a picture, but see nowhere to "save draft", so each time I leave the page, it is gone again. I don't want to hit Publish Changes, because then it will go back into a live status again I assume. Can you help? Thank — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robertversteeg (talk • contribs)
 * Hello, when you are editing a page, the "Publish changes" button means that your edit is made to the page you are editing (in your case the draft). Although the name of this button is similar to publishing a draft into Wikipedia, it is not the same thing. Publishing a draft (or making a draft live) is done when the draft is moved into mainspace (where articles such as Elvis Presley and Albert Einstein are).
 * This means you can safely press the "Publish changes" button, without the draft becoming live. If you are still unsure, please say. If you have further questions you can ask me. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 18:02, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

centiJimbo calculator
Hey there, I noticed you tinkering with the centiJimbo counter template, and I think you were trying to get it to read page watchers from a subpage? For one thing I noticed you used "usepage" instead of "userpage" in a few places, but I don't think that's what the problem is. I'm pretty sure that there is no way to programmatically read the number of watchers of a given page in the software, and anyway User Centijimbo calculator doesn't do it. With the "new" template you still have to look up the number of editors watching your page and pass it as a switch to the template, otherwise it pulls whatever default number was coded into the template. Just so you know!

If you do find a better way to do it, I'm interested. Cheers. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 21:51, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , yes. I was trying to add the ability to customise the page which the website tool pointed to. I had assumed that, that tool was able to automatically update the number of watchers. I had made the change and then reverted it when it didn't "fix" the issue I was having. I had assumed that it wasn't working for me because it was on a subpage. The usepage parameter was supposed to force this template to point to my userpage.
 * However, I now understand that it does not auto update the watchers. I'll have a look into it. Thanks, Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 09:36, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * It may be worth getting a variable set up which can return the number of watchers. For example, grabs and returns the protection level for a page (or a different page if specified). I assume that it would be as easy as implementing this into mediawiki. I'll look into this. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 09:46, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * From what I can see custom magic words can be set up by adding them to the $magicWords dictionary. It may be worth seeing if there is support for such a magic word on VP. I'll create a thread on Village pump (idea lab). Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 09:51, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * From what I can see custom magic words can be set up by adding them to the $magicWords dictionary. It may be worth seeing if there is support for such a magic word on VP. I'll create a thread on Village pump (idea lab). Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 09:51, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Oh hey Dreamy Jazz

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Well, I just talked to the other user you mentioned. I did give her sources. So are we good or not? Because I honestly don't know. Kew1121 (talk) 20:48, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , have you added these sources to the draft? (I am assuming you are talking about Draft:Kristopher Wright)
 * Currently it does not have anywhere near enough sources to be published. This is due to there only being two sources which support any information in the draft (the second website I am not sure what it is). The only two sources which seem to support anything are IMDb. Per Reliable sources/Perennial sources IMDb is listed as "Generally unreliable", so Outside exceptional circumstances, the source should not normally be used, and it should never be used for information about a living person.
 * If we consider the IMDb sources as external links which don't support anything, there are no sources in the draft. If you can add multiple sources which talk about the person in a significant way which are also independent and reliable (to meet the general notability guideline), then the draft will be accepted. However, from my check, I could not see that this person would meet this currently. If you can find the sources, then I will rereview the draft. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 21:10, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * If we consider the IMDb sources as external links which don't support anything, there are no sources in the draft. If you can add multiple sources which talk about the person in a significant way which are also independent and reliable (to meet the general notability guideline), then the draft will be accepted. However, from my check, I could not see that this person would meet this currently. If you can find the sources, then I will rereview the draft. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 21:10, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * If we consider the IMDb sources as external links which don't support anything, there are no sources in the draft. If you can add multiple sources which talk about the person in a significant way which are also independent and reliable (to meet the general notability guideline), then the draft will be accepted. However, from my check, I could not see that this person would meet this currently. If you can find the sources, then I will rereview the draft. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 21:10, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Makkar_College_of_Technical_Education

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hi there,

the college just started last year, and references of-course will be provided with time. Till then, you can at least LIVE the page.

thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mringeup (talk • contribs)
 * Hello. The draft will not be accepted until you include these references and sources. Wikipedia is built on verifiability and if the information you have written does not have sources, it cannot be published to the mainspace. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 08:55, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

mine is a college associated with top Indian university, until then it can be included with quote - this article does not cite any sources or is stub. Your main space has many unverified sources articles? In time my article will have verified sources, thats for sure thanks Mringeup.
 * Just because other articles don't have sources does not mean that this article can be published without sources. See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Wikipedia is built on verifiability; so, instead of saying that this draft should be published, sources should be added to the articles already in mainspace. The draft will not be accepted until you add sources. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 10:31, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Furthermore, at the current time, this draft would be categorised as a stub. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 10:32, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

so you are saying verifiability occurs only in my case and not on others. Stub can also be verified, in time. Just because my college is fresh does not means it is verified, it is associated with renowned University of India that cannot be authorized with anyone just like that. Various authorizations are involved to start a college, which we have complied. The article and the verified sources will be provided that for sure, till then it can be LIVE. thanks Mringeup.
 * No. That is not what I am saying. Your article will not be published until it has sources. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 13:40, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

now after providing you single source time by time, you still have the hypocrite answer, where you have given main space to pages without single source. like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Grove_Public_School And when my source shows course and affiliation verfification of 2 pages, you still want to argue with your wrong reason? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mringeup (talk • contribs)
 * That's not the point. Wikipedia has many articles without verification, but just because other unverified or under-sourced articles exist does not mean that your draft can be published. Wikipedia is a volunteer organisation and so, as volunteers, we only have a certain amount of time that we can give. This means that not every article that is on Wikipedia will have the sources needed. Because our verifiability policy mandates this: The final, non-negotiable and unchangeable point is that unless you add more references, your draft will not be accepted. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 10:44, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Why only in my case your policy is included.I gave you a neutral reference (without bias), and that too from your reference providing links https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriental_Theological_Seminary. Now there you could not judge it. I already said that with time I will fill more references. Obviously, I want my page to have more references and details, which I will surely provide as it takes time. But you are limiting me from the start.It is not right thing to do. I have given you a source from a verified company https://www.owler.com/company/targetstudy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mringeup (talk • contribs)
 * You need multiple references to verify the information you have written and so that it meets the notability guideline for organisations and companies as explained in the decline message on your talk page. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 11:21, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

now first you declined me without source, then after I provided you verified neutral source, you say another. Compared to those without single source, at MY least must be made LIVE. On Wikipedia you can edit whenever you want. And those without sources, still have not been touched for long. You talk about organisation, not a single organisation or source has been referred to them but I have provide you same website reference links that already appear on your site. In different cases, you can see yourself.I do multiples, but it takes time. Wikipedia is to be edited forever by anybody with good substance, and I have provided the substance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mringeup (talk • contribs)
 * The draft will not be made live until you have added more sources. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 11:38, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

this is not a valid answer even after showing you the difference, you give more preference to the un-sourced ones? You easily see it yourself the value of my source but you want to ignore? I have already mentioned the multiple sources will be added, but you consider it un-serious. The seriousness is compared to value of source and un-sourced ones. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mringeup (talk • contribs)

what hypocrisy is this, I gave you multiple resources from your own wikipedia links but you do not live the page. You have pages with zero references but you dont show your hypocrisy on them. Talk to me straight face, dont go back to hiding without replying or removing the message — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mringeup (talk • contribs) 11:42, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , the problem is that, as I have been saying all along, you need multiple sources to demonstrate notability. It does not matter about other pages. The polices are clear. The draft will not be accepted until it is shown to meet the General notability guideline or the notability guidelines for schools/colleges.
 * Regarding unsourced articles: We are volunteers and so we can only do so much. Articles don't just magically improve and there are many unsourced articles on Wikipedia, so it may be some time before an editor improves the page. If a volunteer decides that they will spend time to improve that page, they will. This does not give you a free card to get a draft published which does not have the sources needed.
 * Furthermore, the sources you have used don't establish notability. Sources which establish notability, talk about the topic/subject in a significant way. They must also be independent and reliable. The sources you have used don't establish notability because:
 * The first source (the college's website) is not independent
 * The second source does not talk about the college in a significant way, as it only lists basic information about the college
 * The third, fourth and fifth sources do not cover the college in a significant way, as they all are lists of colleges in the Ludhiana area.
 * This means you have no sources which demonstrate notability. For this (and any) draft to be published it must have received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject and that these sources be included in the draft to support the information you have written. If you are unsure about anything I have written, please explain what you don't understand. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 13:34, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The third, fourth and fifth sources do not cover the college in a significant way, as they all are lists of colleges in the Ludhiana area.
 * This means you have no sources which demonstrate notability. For this (and any) draft to be published it must have received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject and that these sources be included in the draft to support the information you have written. If you are unsure about anything I have written, please explain what you don't understand. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 13:34, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * This means you have no sources which demonstrate notability. For this (and any) draft to be published it must have received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject and that these sources be included in the draft to support the information you have written. If you are unsure about anything I have written, please explain what you don't understand. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 13:34, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

your respectful quote " so it may be some time before an editor improves the page. If a volunteer decides that they will spend time to improve that page, they will."

I am gladly willing to help volunteers with my article in time #as they will to improve article#.

The significance of my (notable & non independent) sources is just the beginning, as also you can see I am citing to every word in my article I can find, just give some time as you give your volunteers the time to do, till then I request you to do the least to LIVE it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mringeup (talk • contribs) 05:35, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , as I have said before. On Wikipedia articles need to be shown to meet the notability guidelines before any draft is made into an article. Once you have enough independent and reliable sources in the draft, then it will be published. Until then, the draft will remain a draft. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 09:34, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

ACC tool access request approved
Thank you for your interest in the account creation process. I have verified that you have signed the confidentiality agreement for nonpublic information and approved your request.

You may now access the interface here. Before you begin handling any requests, please ensure you have read and understood the account creation guide and username policy to familiarize yourself with the process.

Please subscribe yourself to the private ACC mailing list by clicking here and following the instructions on the page. I also highly recommend that you join us on IRC. We'll be able to grant you access to our private channel, where a bot informs us when new account requests arrive, and where you can chat with the other members of the team and get real-time input, advice, and assistance with requests and how to handle certain cases that are giving you confusion or trouble.

Please note that repeatedly failing to correctly assess and process account requests and take the correct resulting actions will result in the suspension of your access to the ACC tool interface. Processing account creation requests is not a race, and each request should be handled with your utmost diligence, care, and attention. Closing each account request correctly, accurately, and within full compliance of the ACC tool guide is your goal and your priority; never sacrifice accuracy and compliance of policy in exchange for quantity, or to close a high number of requests that are in the queue.

Releasing any kind of nonpublic personal data (see access to nonpublic personal data policy), such as the IP addresses or email addresses of account creation requests, whether intentionally or unintentionally, is treated as an extremely serious violation of policy and breach of confidential information, and will generally result in immediate suspension of your access to the ACC tool interface. Depending on the severity of the offense, the intent, and the level of misconduct that occurred, the violation and the breach of the confidential information will be reported to the Wikimedia Foundation, which can result in further sanctions and actions being taken against you (such as being blocked, banned, or having your access to nonpublic personal data status revoked). If you have questions about this or aren't sure about anything in regards to this policy, please ask a tool administrator.

Please don't hesitate to get in touch with me or any other ACC tool admin if you have any questions. Thank you for participating in the account creation process, and we're glad to have you as part of the group! Welcome to the ACC tool user team! —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 06:36, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
 * If you are consistently active at ACC this week and hitting the limit, ping me (or post at WP:PERM/ACC again) next weekend. I'll try to keep track myself, but I may forget. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 03:12, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , OK. Thanks. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 09:04, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * If you haven't already, you should join the IRC channel, but you'll need a Wikimedia cloak first. IRC/Cloaks will get you there. Welcome to the club. { — AfroThundr (u · t · c) 19:57, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I have requested the cloak. Hopefully it won't be too long Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:01, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
 * A cloak is a good idea, but you don't have to wait on one to get access. Last I checked the GCs have a backlog of cloak requests. If you have a nick registered with nickserv, I can give you access with that until your cloak goes through. (Post your nick here or on your userpage or email me.) —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:39, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , hello. My NickServ nick is "Dreamy_Jazz" Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 10:14, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 * You should be able to access the channel now. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:33, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , unfortunately it still won't let me join. I can wait till I get the cloak if needed. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 14:33, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I see you on the channel invite exception list. You must be identified to NickServ and connected using SSL to access the channel. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 00:30, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , strange. I have tried again and still isn't working.
 * I am using "webchat.freenode.net" over SSL (using https). I used the identify command /msg NickServ IDENTIFY ... and it logged me in to Dreamy_Jazz. I then used the command /join #wikipedia-en-accounts and it still redirected me to the unreg channel. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 09:22, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I may be missing something obvious, as I am inexperienced with IRC. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 09:24, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * On further investigation, it seems to be the SSL part. In the status part I have the message / log -herbert.freenode.net- Only users using SSL could join this channel!. I am unsure what to do to enable SSL? I could not see a enable SSL button / command. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 10:27, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure. Any ideas here? —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 02:20, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * ,, While your connection to webchat is protected with SSL, webchat doesn't connect to the server with SSL unfortunately. My advice is to use either a real IRC client (I use HexChat) or IRC Cloud (which is like webchat but actually connects via SSL). stwalkerster (talk) 06:59, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , Ah ok. I have downloaded HexChat and will use that. Thanks, Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 10:31, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Looks like it has worked! Thanks Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 10:34, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I have been as active at ACC as I can (the rate limit was sometimes limiting me to 2 or 3 account creations from my IP). It is next weekend now. Do you think I am ready? Thank you, Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 07:00, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing you hit AntiSpoof some. Each creation attempt counts toward the limit. I've reviewed all the non-purged requests that you've handled, and they look good. I am granting accountcreator due to the lower rate limit with the expectation that you will continue take it slow for a bit since you're still new to ACC. As always, please ask questions if you're unsure about how to handle a request. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 07:33, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , yes that is fine. I will continue to ask on IRC and will also keep on continuing to take it slow with requests. Thanks, Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 07:43, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * , yes that is fine. I will continue to ask on IRC and will also keep on continuing to take it slow with requests. Thanks, Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 07:43, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

accountcreator granted
After reviewing your request for the "accountcreator" permission, I have enabled the flag on your account. Keep in mind these things: If you no longer require the right, let me know, or ask any other administrator. Drop a note on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of the account creator right. Happy editing! —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 07:33, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
 * The account creator right removes the limit on the maximum number of new accounts that can be created in a 24-hour period.
 * The account creator right is not a status symbol. If it remains unused, it is likely to be removed. Abuse of the account creator right will result in its removal by an administrator.