User talk:Drinkreader

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January 2014
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Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia, as you did at Screwdriver (cocktail), you may be blocked from editing. Thank you. Hitro  talk  17:28, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Talkback
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February 2014
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 * sign makes no mention of lime juice. "Some of the more famous hangouts of the era were Cuba's La Bodeguita del Medio, where autographed walls are a testimony to pre- Castro glory days. The Mojito,

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 * on the ... - Page 263 by John Huxham in 1764 Then later in 1778 "The wet-nurse to he earth's produce, With sugar, rum, and lemon juice, A nectar fit for godly use" "The Ingredients are Brandy, Rack, or Rum, Water warm or cold, Lemon, Sugar  sometimes a little Milk is added, which denotes it Milk-Punch." A new theory of physick and


 * I have not reverted your edit to Mint julep; however, I have corrected the publication date of the book. Please remember to assume good faith in fellow editors and work with them, at article talk pages, to reach a consensus version of pages. You should not take an adversarial approach to editing by threatening to report any editor who disagrees with your work to the administrator's noticeboard. —C.Fred (talk) 18:57, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Block evasion
You have been blocked from editing Wikipedia  as a result of your . You are free to make constructive edits after the block has expired, but please note that vandalism (including page blanking or addition of random text), spam, deliberate misinformation, privacy violations, personal attacks; and repeated, blatant violations of our policies concerning neutral point of view and biographies of living persons will not be tolerated. OhNo itsJamie Talk 22:04, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Examination of the editing history of the various IP addresses from which you have been editing shows that you have been receiving messages about various disruptive aspects of your editing over a long period. To my knowledge, you received more than one warning that your self-promotional editing would be likely to lead to being blocked at least as far back as June 2013, and other warnings about various problems have followed during the intervening period. I do not have the slightest doubt that if any administrator had been aware of your full history, you would have been blocked long ago. In addition to that, when you eventually were blocked, you repeatedly evaded blocks, both by switching to other IP addresses and by creating an account. That being so, you would almost certainly now be blocked indefinitely had anyone been fully aware of the problems. I have compromised, by extending the current block on this account to one month from time when it was imposed. Please be aware that ''while any block that was placed to prevent you editing is still in place, you may not edit. Evading any block may lead to a substantial increase in the length of the block, whether that block was applied to an IP address or to an account, and whether the block evasion is done anonymously or from an account.'' JamesBWatson (talk) 12:37, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

I tried to clear alot of this up in wikipedia=en=help but I assume nothing was done. There are many things I am being accused of that are simply not true.

Accusations: step by step:

1. disruptive editor for at least a year

issue: according to your own admins, I never made an edit before last may, and to further credit myself, I only made a few edits in may, when I realized I didnt know how to edit correctly I left, and was INACTIVE until two weeks ago. So technically, I have been on wikipedia a little over two weeks. TWO WEEKS DOES NOT EQUAL ONE YEAR.

2. continues to promote his books

This is ridiculous, I do not, I have not promoted my books since I was told not to and I appreciate some truth and validity from admins on this fact. I was told not to promote my self published work and I didn't after I was told.

3. "blank paging"

The one screwdriver page, which you can clearly see in the talk page I asked to remove, not only did I recommend it be sourced and cited, but so does other contributors and wikipedia itself, lets please clear that up. A bot reverted it, it is really false completely unsourced and unnecessary, see for yourself please.

4. my references are OR

OMG this has got to be the one that kills me, you can clearly see that "my references" (meaning early printings of drinks in other sourced publications) and NOT MEANING (my books) Vastly and dramatically improve this encyclopedia, so please stop confusing the two, it is not OR, INFACT I DIRECTLY QUOTE THE EARLY REFERENCES! something that is not done by other contributors on the subject.

5. I am not a cocktail historian

Just because I am a recognized expert master mixologist does not mean I am not a cocktail historian either, which I have a proven track record for historically accurate information over and over again. An english teacher (david wondrich) and a microsoft employee (robert hess) certainly aren't valid experts on history either in that case. So lets be fair, again MY INFORMATION IS SOURCED, ACCURATE, AND FAR EARLIER THAN CURRENT VERSIONS.

6. Those early references are dated wrong

Apparently you people have no clue how to gbp works and as seen from my edits I make enormous strives to maintain historical accuracy, I showed on mint julep:Talk how the claim for the revert is it dates to "1850" but then showed you a book from 1997 with the same exact author. PLease stop being ridiculous, there are 6 billionn people alive, how many do you think lived before? OF COURSE SOME ARE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME NAME, not to mention, people have children and name them after themselves. I actually research my references, not just make bogus claims saying stuff existed when it didn't.

7. Continues to log in from different IPS

This very statement would give the impression I am not trying to evade, if I am evading why in the fuck would I log in? Do I really need to explain my whole life situation why I have different ips from multiple places right now?

You guys only made seven proven false claims about me, whatever, I guess I should be "grateful" for letting me stay, when you all boldly claim you want my sources without crediting meDrinkreader (talk) 15:39, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

I should add all these nice "cacthes" that I am being accused of ironically already appear on these same pages.. . . . .. . . you only "catch" what you want to and even plato said not so beautifully that we can rationalize everything with our mind, even if he didnt realize he was saying itDrinkreader (talk) 15:48, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

"According to David Herpin..."
The attribution should be to the work cited. Based on your edits today, David Herpin has been writing books on bartending and drinks for over 150 years. This seems dubious, at best. Any attribution should be to the work being cited, not to any researcher doing derivative work from the sources. —C.Fred (talk) 17:55, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 3 months for continuing the same self-promotional editing that you have been doing for at least 10 months. Of the fifteen article edits you have made since the expiry of your last block, thirteen opened with the words "According to David Herpin", and one with the words "David Herpin claims". That in itself, in the context of your past history, would have been enough reason for the block, but in addition, as C.Fred has pointed out, the attributions to yourself were in any case spurious. By now, you should have grasped the point that Wikipedia does not accept that kind of editing. If you don't like contributing to an encyclopaedia that has the sorts of policies and guidelines that Wikipedia has on promotion and conflict of interest, then you don't have to contribute. However, as long as you do choose to contribute, abiding by our policies is not optional, and you will continue to be blocked if you continue to ignore Wikipedia's policies. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice:. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 12:56, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Drinkreader (talk) 02:35, 13 March 2014 (UTC)Drinkreader (talk) 02:34, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * This is also being duscussed at User_talk:Doc9871 and User_talk:JamesBWatson. HTH SQL Query me!  08:10, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Drinkreader is really just a spammer who is not here to build an encyclopedia. It is abundantly clear with the socking, and the redundant "David Herpin" garbage. Junk like ". Seriously? No one gives a crap what that person says about all those drinks. A joke. Doc   talk  08:49, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Doc, If I have done something personal to offend you, I sincerely apologize and guarantee it was not intentional. I can also assure you that these issues you describe are no longer my concern. I truly wish to contribute to this project and for nothing more to improve current versions of the project that are historically inaccurate or false. I'm sorry you feel so heavily inflicted by my actions, if I had known I offended you I would have apologized to you much earlier. I would want you to have a great day.Drinkreader (talk) 15:01, 22 March 2014 (UTC)


 * You did nothing to offend me at all, so there's no need to apologize. Doc   talk  23:01, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

July 2016
Please stop attacking other editors, as you did on Talk:Old Fashioned. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Blackguard 19:02, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

da heck
Whatever the heck this nonsense is, see WP:LEGAL. This is enough to ban you on sight, I just can't be bothered to report you, but whatever your problem is -- it's not even clear what you're on about -- go sleep it off. Herostratus (talk) 18:43, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually on second though looking at your talk page above, that's enough, I will now report you. Herostratus (talk) 18:48, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

does it really matter? There is a clear personal bias, when I meet the same standards as possibly mildly mentally challenged people who believe sticking ginger up a horses rear end is were the name cocktail comes from.

I, nor any of my copyrighted work is appropriately accredited, yet it's here. I could care less about wikipedia's guidelines, you are breaking the law by copyright infringing, which overrules any wikipedia standard. This will only expedite the process seeing as I can no longer contact you in 24 hours.

Banning me will accomplish nothing on your end because I am not already accredited, so you cant resteal information or remove it to hurt me, because I am already not accredited appropriately.

Does it really matter now? Of course not, I could easily pay the filing fees, but im not even sure I want to even do that, im not a vindictive type person. It's really not worth fighting, do whatever you want, I dont control you.

July 2016
You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for making legal threats or taking legal action. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page:. You are not allowed to edit Wikipedia while the threats stand or the legal action is unresolved. &#8209; Iridescent 19:03, 10 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Well, you could start by actually reading the link I gave you above regarding why I blocked you. This has nothing to do with disruption; you have made a threat to take legal action against Wikipedia, and for legal reasons we do not allow people in these circumstances to make further edits to Wikipedia until eithe the legal action has taken place and is resolved, or the threat is explicitly withdrawn. &#8209; Iridescent 19:34, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

I apologize for assuming that, that was a given. I would think it would be very anti-advantageous to ask for an unblock while pursuing legal action, when this is the reason the block was created in the first place. I was under the impression that you would assume I would not be taking any type of legal, civil or criminal action. Im sorry for the confusion. I have made personal attacks against other editors. I was letting you know I am aware that these behaviors violate wikipedias policies as well.


 * You've made a legal threat at Talk:Cape Codder (cocktail). If you're prepared to state unequivocally that you in fact were not making a legal threat then I'm willing to unblock you. Mackensen (talk) 20:07, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

I explicitly state that I am not and will not make legal threats and actions.Drinkreader (talk) 20:16, 10 July 2016 (UTC)


 * You're unblocked. Please don't do that again. Mackensen (talk) 20:19, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Please stop attacking other editors, as you did on French 75 (cocktail). If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Theroadislong (talk) 20:26, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Notice of discussion at administrators' incidents board, October 2018
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. —C.Fred (talk) 14:44, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Banned
Hello. This message is to inform you that pursuant to this discussion, you have been indefinitely banned from Wikipedia by the community. For more information on what this means, see WP:BAN. For information on appealing this ban, see WP:SO. Regards, Swarm  talk  19:58, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

ban evading
Hi, im not evading a ban, i was banned for ban evasion, but at that time i wasnt actually banned. My ban had expired. I would appreciate you not being retarded and looking at the actual log and use those critical thinking and reading comprehension skills you claim to posses, otherwise tell me how long my "ban" is and i will do more time, i dont care. You cant hide the truth forever,the truth always comes to light. And even if its after my death, 100 years from now people will be reading this archived conversation thinking "can you believe how stupid that mother fucker is? They literally would rather believe ginger in the rear of a horse was more reliable than a heavily documented importation bill in early america." And youll have to live with that, or atleast you decendants will if you ever have any. Flex that internetz powerz, but at the end of the day, you cant truly ban me, and you're the one who will look foolish in years to come. But as i said, if you still choose to claim im ban evadin, give me a wait time and i will wait.
 * You were community banned per this [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=862653538] discussion and your account was indefinitely blocked so you are evading a ban and even if you weren't you would be evading a block. If you feel the ban was improper, you're welcome to appeal it. Until and unless you successfully appeal it, you remain banned and any editing on your part if ban evasion. If you choose to accept your are banned and want to appeal in the future, WP:Standard offer suggests a minimum of 6 months before an appeal with absolutely no ban evasion. This means you need to stop editing anywhere on the English wikipedia, with any IP or any account be it talk pages, articles or other pages. Yes even my talk page. Since even discounting this edit to my talk page, you evaded your ban with this IP 6 months will start from now if you stop now.  Note when appealing you also need to convince the community that you will able to edit without causing significant problems, especially the problems that got you into trouble in the first place. While I can't speak for the community I will say I've never see anyone who insists that they are definitely right or super smart of whatever and everyone else is completely wrong or an idiot be successful in an appeal. Recognising why the community saw your behaviour as a problem, and how you can avoid it in the future is generally the most basic second step to a successful appeal. (First being no evasion for at least 6 months.)  Note that I have no involvement in your disputes, and have no real knowledge of them. But even if there was no ban evasion, I would assume that you're wrong. Again it's my experience that I can safely assume anyone who insists on how right and smart they are and how everyone else is wrong an an idiot, is in fact the one who is completely wrong and not worth listening to. Most people who are right are able to let the sources speak for themselves.  BTW, since you retain talk page access on your original account, you can edit your original account talk page although you should do so by logging back into your account and can only edit your talk page to appeal your ban. If for some reason you can't or don't want to log back in to your original account, take a ready of WP:UNBAN for other ways to appeal. It will probably also be acceptable to edit your talk page to seek clarification within reason, if you're still confused about aspects of your ban. Although I don't really see what confusion there is. As I said, you are banned end of story and any editing except to appeal your ban on your account talk page is ban evasion. If you think the ban was unfair in any way, you need to appeal it not evade it. Telling people who unfair the ban was, or how smart or right you are or how wrong or dumb everyone else is, is not likely to be seen as an acceptable use of your talk page so I suggest you minimise that.  Note I am cross posting this to your original account talk page since it's the only place you're allowed to edit. I won't report you for editing my talk page provided you don't do something stupid, but I will report you if you continue to evade your ban elsewhere. But others may not be so generous, so I suggest you refrain from evading your ban by editing my talk page. In any case, it doesn't seem there is anything more for you to say. I'm not interested in hearing details of your dispute nor in why you feel your ban was improper so there's little point posting them.  Nil Einne (talk) 17:29, 6 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Oh I disagree. This nonsense has been going on for years, it's been explained over and over and over how things work here and how to be a productive member of this community, which would have been helpful given the editor's apparent expertise and access to sources on this topic, but they've refused time and time again. IP blocked for a year. I suggest you go write a blog, Wikipedia's not for you. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:43, 6 December 2018 (UTC)


 * -- Dloh cier ekim  (talk) 03:32, 20 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Anyone else who considers a future unblock request or ban appeal from this editor ought to be aware that subsequent to the above claim that they were not evading their ban, they posted this threat to my talk page. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 02:14, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
 * "You are welcome to make an unban request in six months from today, if but only if you have refrained from all further edits, anywhere on Wikipedia" Drinkreader, I'm sorry to see you refused to take advantage of this but instead doubled-down on your abusive behaviour. I will strongly oppose any unban request you make under the terms of WP:SO. --Yamla (talk) 15:23, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Clarification
Seeking exact clarification from banning administrator(s) and/or community as to why i was banned to begin with. I must know what behaviors to stop if i ever want to be part of the community again.


 * Here is a link to where the ban discussion was closed: . That thread explains the behavioural concerns pretty clearly and provides links to demonstrate the problem actions. —C.Fred (talk) 20:30, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Possible sockpuppet
I support a permaban for repeated and blatant sockpuppetry. -- Doctorx0079 (talk) 22:47, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Unblock request
Drinkreader, because this is a community ban, it must be appealed through our administrators' noticeboard. Since, obviously, you cannot edit there, I or another user can copy a request to the noticeboard for community consideration. Is the information that is currently in your unblock request template exactly what you want copied over to the noticeboard? Once you've confirmed the text you want placed there, someone will handle. only (talk) 17:15, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

yes thats fine, I am not angry with the guy who has some obvious bias, im not going to let that detour or even effect me. If my life is so interesting to them they are actively seeking to not allow me to edit, I honestly feel great pity, but furthermore, froma mental health prospective, this is very unhealthy behavior to have towards a stranger you know little to nothing about, thats just my professional opinion. Its borderline stalking, legally.

August 2020
 Your ability to edit this talk page has been revoked as an administrator has identified your talk page edits as inappropriate and/or disruptive. ([ block log] • [ active blocks] • [ global blocks] • [//tools.wmflabs.org/xtools/autoblock/?user=&project=en.wikipedia.org autoblocks] • contribs • deleted contribs • [ abuse filter log] • [ creation log] • change block settings • [ unblock] • [ checkuser] ([ log]) )

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