User talk:DrowssapSMM/Archive 1

Deletion tagging
Speedy deletion, or MFD. Either is fine but choose one not both next time. -- Whpq (talk) 03:43, 11 March 2023 (UTC)


 * ok, thank you DrowssapSMM (talk) 13:46, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello
My World 2.0 is shіt, how is my contribution bad Bieber0009 (talk) 22:54, 17 May 2023 (UTC)


 * violates NPOV policies. wikipedia is for objective facts, not opinions DrowssapSMM (talk) 22:55, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

What is NPOV — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bieber0009 (talk • contribs) 22:57, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

NPOV stands for neutral point of view. please refer to WP:NPOV for what that entails. thank you DrowssapSMM (talk) 23:01, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

I don’t know how to use wiki
Hey man I don’t know how to use wiki but I am a verified artist on Spotify Apple Music and was wondering if you can make me a page Geprheiscool.k (talk) 18:18, 28 August 2023 (UTC)


 * no, because WP:MN DrowssapSMM (talk) 18:21, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Pls bro Geprheiscool.k (talk) 18:28, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * also, WP:PROMOTION. please stop asking. DrowssapSMM (talk) 18:30, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I ain’t pro stowing I don’t know how to make a page Geprheiscool.k (talk) 18:32, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * you cannot make a page about yourself. once again, refer to WP:MN. DrowssapSMM (talk) 18:49, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Trout
Wen you removed a speedy delete template on WP:SB, it was just a test as a response to adding original research to WP:SB, it was just a joke. 88.110.38.249 (talk) 20:03, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

RE Abdul Masih
Please review the edit you reverted. I believe my edit was the constructive one. Yours. 65.88.88.56 (talk) 19:28, 16 October 2023 (UTC)


 * the names removed had articles, and that is always a condition for notability on a disambiguation page. Drowssap SMM  ( say hello ) 19:29, 16 October 2023 (UTC)


 * It is a condition of notability not proof of it. Non-notable coach about whom no article is likely to ever be created. If such an article is created and it passes muster then we can re-add the name to the disambiguation page. Fair? Can I remove it? 65.88.88.56 (talk) 19:37, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
 * that is not the point. they already have an article created about them, which makes their inclusion in the disambiguation page entirely reasonable. Drowssap SMM  ( say hello ) 19:39, 16 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Matt Abdelmassih does not have an article named after him. Some of the schools/teams he's worked with/for have articles. COATRACKing by whomever added his name to the disambiguation page in the first place. 65.88.88.56 (talk) 19:45, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
 * apologies, i had been talking about the other that was removed. sorry for the misunderstanding, and feel free to remove Matt Abdelmassih. again, apologies. Drowssap SMM  ( say hello ) 19:48, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks! Drowssap SMM  ( talk ) (contributions) 23:55, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Kathy Hochul
Thank you for reverting the vandalism on Hochul. However, this could have been wrapped up faster. The vandalism was WP:LTA frpm a sockpuppeter who waits for their targets to become unprotected, as Hochul's was. With that nature of a BLP violation, there's no reason to start with level-one vandalism warnings, let alone using level 2, level 3, and level 4. You can use a level 4 only warning for that, or if you recognize it as a LTA, you can go straight to reporting them to AIV. If they sock with multiple accounts, report the page to RFPP. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:49, 27 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Jerium pointed out to me that you did send them to AIV, and I see in your contribution history that you did so as you gave them the level 1. So, nevermind that part then. It's an LTA sock, carry on reverting and reporting. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:06, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the LTA info. I had not come across any LTAs before then, so thank you for letting me know how to handle it. I also try to give proportional warnings, but I'm not sure if that is a feature with AntiVandal. Drowssap SMM  ( talk ) (contributions) 01:44, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

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 * Noted. Drowssap SMM  ( talk ) (contributions) 23:23, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

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Tagging pages for speedy deletion
Hello, DrowssapSMM,

You'll find a speedier response to your CSD G6 taggings if you use Twinkle to do CSD G6>Move and put the URL of the page you want moved into the field. If you do this, then the page to be moved will be linked in the CSD tag so patrolling admins can check it out. Otherwise, they need to cut and paste the page title which just takes more time. Also, there is one link so the admin can move the draft and delete the main space redirect with one click rather doing separate deletion and later move actions. In my years patrolling CSD categories, I've just found that admins respond more promptly when you make the tagging more convenient. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 00:36, 14 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Ok, I will keep that in mind. Drowssap  SMM  00:37, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

About your review of Draft:BBC Africa Eye
Hey DrowssapSMM, thanks for for conducting this review! In the future, when you see any outstanding issues like inappropriate external links in a draft, try to make sure they're removed or wrapped in  tags before moving it into mainspace. At the very least, add a tag (External links, in this case) so other editors monitoring the maintenance categories will come around to clean it up. Let me know if you have any questions! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 06:57, 14 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I will do that! Drowssap  SMM  11:27, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

About your review of Draft:The case of Ong Mingwee
I disagree that my article contains original research and opinions. In my article, I have listed out both sides of the argument, opinions from people such as Members of Parliament and netizens, and did not pick any side. I already clearly stated that "Some called for XXX, while others believed YYY". I did not associate any opinion with myself. I used newspaper articles as my sources, which should qualify as reliable secondary sources. As such, I will resubmit the draft.--Sgassumeinnocent (talk) 15:23, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Draft review
Hi. I saw you participate in AFCH so I think I can ask you advice on this article. Someone's rejected my submission after a few seconds, so I feel that no one appreciate my efforts. I want to create a few articles about exchanges, but even while first one got rejected without leaving any comment or suggestion I feel it has no sense... Antonio Vinzaretti (talk) 11:01, 19 December 2023 (UTC)


 * That submission has already been deleted twice at AFD, so I would try and find more reliable sources. I am opinionated on the subject, so I will not accept or decline it. Drowssap  SMM  11:13, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Regarding former AfD I discussed with David Gerard, because I met CSD G4 and I have no idea how can I check content before me. I just have no access or bad in searching? Let me know. Same with KuCoin (top10 as Bitget), WhiteBIT (ukrainian). How can even be sure that my version is different. I only follow guidelines such as WP NCORP WP SIRS Antonio Vinzaretti (talk) 11:23, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Discussion was here on tag "Kucoin, Bitget, HTX" Antonio Vinzaretti (talk) 11:32, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

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Kent Plateau revert
I saw you just reverted an edit I made to Kent Plateau using the Ultraviolet tool. The reverted edit copied public domain material from USGS, a U.S. government agency,. This information is also copied into Keating Massif, so you may have seen it as a cut-and-paste move. My next step would have been to change the stub Keating Massif to a redirect to Kent Plateau. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:22, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

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LTA
Hi--there's no point in reverting that LTA. Just report them--the more you revert, the greater his enjoyment. There is no need to even warn; report them with a note at WP:AIV. Drmies (talk) 17:45, 25 December 2023 (UTC) And please explain when you revert. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 17:48, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * And yet you reverted FIVE times in Nativity scene, clogging up the history and rewarding their behavior. Drmies (talk) 18:00, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry. I couldn't see any notices in the AntiVandal window. Drowssap  SMM  18:01, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Attribution
I edited a page involving an historical event of which I was a part, to which I was a witness. (I worked with ABC News, the FBI, and the U.S. Attorney to investigate and prosecute a cold case, Civil Rights era murder.) I knew the victim's family; I knew the murderer's family; my own family was involved; I initiated renewed interest in the un-punished murder, which had lain fallow for 30+ years. My research was used in ABC News, for whom I worked as a consultant, 20/20 segments about the murder, and by the U.S. Attorney to prosecute the murderer. The ABC News producer and U.S. Attorney are both sources that would confirm my contribution. I don't know how to provide "sources" for this information since I AM (one of) the sources. Dmmsj00 (talk) 18:05, 27 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I would recommend reading the pages on original research and verifiability. If you need help beyond that, you should ask a question at the Teahouse. Drowssap  SMM  15:23, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Request on 05:46:23, 4 January 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Medianextgen
Medianextgen (talk) 05:46, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

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I think you approved the edits by 90.241.160.140 at T? I'm concerned that they may not be valid. Removing a letter form as "outdated" raises alarm bells. This editor is engaged in a campaign of unexplained similar deletions on many letters and has not (yet) responded to requests to use the talk page to explain. Did I miss something? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 15:36, 8 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Apologies. The edits looked fine at first glance, so I accepted them. The talk page requests might be a THEYCANTHEARYOU situation, however. Drowssap  SMM  17:56, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm not at all surprised, no need to apologise. The level of detail is way above my pay grade, so it was really only the "outdated" that grabbed my attention. I have left a note at their talk page and reverted a few time, so I hope that this is loud enough. They don't give the impression of being a neophyte but I don't know of any LTA who haunts such obvious spaces. . Let's see if they respond now. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 18:27, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Request on 06:00:36, 22 January 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Medianextgen
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 * I cannot help if it has not been submitted. It does need cleanup, though. Drowssap  SMM  16:43, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Your recent UAA report
Hi, As you probably undoubtedly know, we usually don't report IP's to UAA. This is a sock of BBB, so it probably needs to go to AIV 𝑭𝒊𝒍𝒎𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔𝒔 (talk) 18:55, 11 February 2024 (UTC)


 * OOPS! Didn't realize that it was an IP, I read the edit summary as the name. Drowssap  SMM  19:00, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Tagging pages for speedy deletion
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If you want a speedier response to a request to delete a redirect and move an article, it would be best to use Twinkle, select CSD>G6 Move and put the name of the article/draft to be moved in the field. That way an admin patrolling has a link to the article that is to be moved so they can check it easily and if they agree with the request, they can move the article/draft and delete the redirect with one click. It goes much quicker. The way you have it set up now, the admin has to cut and paste the name of an article/draft to go look at it. It might sound minor but a lot of admins want to work swiftly and if you make things easier for them, they are less likely to pass on the request and go look at a different issue. Sometimes CSD requests can sit for hours or even days before being acted on if they can not be acted on quickly or if patrolling admins are unsure about the request. Just a tip. Thank you for your contributions. Liz Read! Talk! 03:16, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Adidas Top Ten
Hello DrowssapSMM. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Adidas Top Ten, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Hi all. Looking at the history of the draft (A note here: the Draft:Adidas Top Ten&action=history link was disallowed due to some local or global title blacklist to do with "regex". I will leave this to the regexpeciallists to explain what means, as I am teh WP:CIR about that sort of stuff)

I can see no indication that "an AfC reviewer has determined that the draft is ready for acceptance". I may well have overlooked something here. Your thoughts about this? Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 09:15, 28 February 2024 (UTC). Thank you. Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 09:15, 28 February 2024 (UTC)


 * I forgot to mark it as reviewed. I determined that it was, in fact, ready for acceptance. Drowssap  SMM  14:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Drowssap. (For context: this is about Draft:Adidas Top Ten). You wrote: "I forgot to mark it as reviewed. I determined that it was, in fact, ready for acceptance". I confirm there is no deleted content that only administrators can see about that purported acceptance. Any editor can review that draft's page history and can see that you had at no time you described it as reviewed. Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 09:55, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I had clicked the accept button on the AFCH script, and put the speedy tag on the redirect because it was blocking acceptance. Having looked through the draft, I saw nothing wrong with it. I really need to remember to hit the "mark as under review" button lol Drowssap  SMM  13:10, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Is there anything I can do to put the article back in review so it can be created? I addressed the concerns for the speedy deletion so I just want to know what I have to do to get it approved. LeDroider (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Guidance on Draft:Genius Group Limited
Hi @DrowssapSMM, thanks for your input! I fixed the external links. I'll adjust the advertisy language you mention - some of the products and services section can certainly be made more encyclopedic. Is there anything that you found especially problematic that will help me to edit? BarryLindt (talk) 20:42, 3 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Looking back over the submission, it could probably use some better sourcing. There are a lot of sources, but most of them are either considered unreliable or primary sources, which are discouraged. Some more secondary sources like the Verge or ESPN would be very good. As for the advertisey language, I would read through the guidelines outlined at the "words to watch" subpage of the Manual of Style. Hope this helps. Drowssap  SMM  03:32, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

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Recent reversion of Khyber College of Dentistry
Hello, I wanted to talk about your recent reversion of [[Khyber College of Dentistry]. This page shouldn't have been reverted, reasons: Firstly, it redirects to a completely unrelated page, the page it redirects to is the exam conducting body, and it has almost nothing to do with the institution. I'm not sure why you reverted it to something completely inferior.

Secondly, there are hundreds of other wikipedia pages with zero references, which have not been removed, but this, with 3-4 references was removed?

Please reconsider this decision, as the page was providing some value, now it's completely useless. ExoField (talk) 07:38, 30 March 2024 (UTC)


 * First of all, saying that "there are hundreds of other wikipedia pages with zero references, which have not been removed, but this, with 3-4 references was removed?" doesn't really help your argument per WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Just because other articles don't have sources doesn't mean that that article should stay as well. It only used primary sources, which do not count towards notability. Secondly, it does not redirect to a completely unrelated page. As you said, it redirects to the exam conducting body. That, by definition, is a related page. I agree that the page could provide some value, but not without reliable sources. Drowssap  SMM  12:23, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I understand, I added reliable sources to the page, please review. ExoField (talk) 08:59, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

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Recent editing related to Sukhoi Su-30MKI
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AFC: translations lacking required attribution must be speedily declined
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 * Understood. Drowssap  SMM  15:08, 27 April 2024 (UTC)