User talk:Drweather

Copyright problem: Raymond Forbes-Kings
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as Raymond Forbes-Kings, but we regretfully cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from either web sites or printed material. This article appears to be a copy from http://www.uea.ac.uk/~t009/ArtistBiography.htm, and therefore a copyright violation. The copyrighted text has been or will soon be deleted.

If you believe that the article is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL), versions 1.3 or later then you should do one of the following:


 * If you have permission from the author leave a message explaining the details at Talk:Raymond Forbes-Kings and send an email with confirmation of permission to "permissions-en (at) wikimedia (dot) org". See Requesting copyright permission for instructions.
 * If a note on the original website states that re-use is permitted under the GFDL or that the material is released into the public domain leave a note at Talk:Raymond Forbes-Kings with a link to where we can find that note.
 * If you own the copyright to the material: send an e-mail from an address associated with the original publication to permissions-en(at)wikimedia(dot)org or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation permitting re-use under the GFDL, and note that you have done so on Talk:Raymond Forbes-Kings.

It may also be necessary for the text be modified to have an encyclopedic tone and to follow Wikipedia article layout. For more information on Wikipedia's policies, see Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.

If you would like to begin working on a new version of the article you may do so at [ this temporary page]. Leave a note at Talk:Raymond Forbes-Kings saying you have done so and an administrator will move the new article into place once the issue is resolved. Thank you, and please feel welcome to continue contributing to Wikipedia. Happy editing! – Toon (talk)  20:16, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Copyright concerns, Raymond Forbes-Kings, complications
Hello,.

Thank you for your interest in donating material from Public Sculpture of Birmingham to Wikipedia. However, there are several complications that may make it difficult for us to accept this material.

First, though you may be the artist's son, as you indicate at the article's talk page, I'm afraid we do not currently have a method in place to verify the identity of account holders at account creation. For that reason, we must verify all donations through external processes. Generally speaking, it is enough to send us an e-mail from an e-mail address clearly associated with the first publisher granting us permission, but in your situation this is complicated by the fact that you are evidently not the first publisher. The book that first published this text is copyrighted to George Noszlopy and Jeremy Beach. They printed the material on page 197 (here), but though "John Kings" is cited as a source, it does not clearly indicate that the letter from John Kings was reproduced verbatim. If the text was originally written by you, then you certainly do have the right to release it into public domain. But if the text was written by Noszlopy and Beach based on facts supplied by you, then they own the copyright, and even as their primary source you would not be in position to release the material yourself. Since this is a matter of law, we may not be able to take your word for it that you are the copyright owner of material published first under other names.

The easiest way to handle this is probably to rewrite the article. Copyright covers the creative expression of facts, not the facts themselves. If you wished to revise the article, we wouldn't have to worry about the complications of proving ownership. There is a temporary space linked from the article that could be used for this purpose.

Alternatively, you might wish to send an e-mail from an address that verifies you to be John Kings to [mailto:permissions-en@wikimedia.org permissions-en@wikimedia.org] or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation permitting re-use under the GFDL. There is a boilerplate release form at Declaration of consent for all enquiries which can be helpful. Please clearly explain the first point of publication in your letter and specify by name the article on Wikipedia in which the material is being used. Once your e-mail is received, a member of the Communications Committee should contact you if your permission is sufficient. If not, they may contact you to provide further information about how to proceed.

An alternative would be to request that the Liverpool University Press, as publishers of the book, or either of the posted authors of the book contact the Wikimedia Foundation verifying that the material may be released into public domain.

We apologize for the additional steps necessary, but as copyright is a matter of legal concern, we must ensure that we not only protect the rights of copyright holders, but also guard the Wikipedia project against inadvertent infringement. Your case is extremely unusual, I'm afraid, and may be somewhat difficult to resolve.

The article will be revisited in about a week to see what additional steps have been taken or may be necessary. If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to let me know at my talk page. We also have a help desk which is typically manned around the clock by volunteers. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:57, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Update regarding copyright concern
Since we do not yet have verification of permission by the processes set out above and sufficient time has passed since the placement of the notice, the article has been deleted for copyright concerns. This deletion is not necessarily permanent. If you have already sent a letter to the Wikimedia Foundation permitting re-use under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL), the article will be restored when that letter is received and processed by the Wikimedia Communications committee. Likewise, if you have not yet sent a letter, you still may (or resend it, if you believe your original may have been lost), and the article will be restored when that letter is received and processed.

As Wikipedia does not require proof of identity on account creation, it is essential that we receive external proof of authorization in order to ensure that we remain compliant with US Copyright law. It is also essential that we verify that copyright holders understand the extent of the release they are authorizing, in that GFDL permits modification and reuse in any forum, even commercial publication, as long as authorship credit is maintained.

If you have questions about the verification procedure, please feel free to contact me at my talk page. Alternatively, you might address them at the talk page of the copyright policy, which is generally monitored by volunteers experienced in processing such matters. Thank you. Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:17, 8 January 2009 (UTC)