User talk:DsgnWrte

 Welcome!

Welcome to Wikipedia, DsgnWrte! My name is Epass. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page or press the "Request Help" button at the bottom of this message. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay.

You can also have the people at Motto of the day create a motto for you to live by on Wikipedia at the Motto Shop.

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or press the "Request Help" button below. Again, welcome!

Mentor
Hi DsgnWrte and welcome to Wikipedia! I would be happy to be your mentor and answer any questions you may have. Let me know when you have found the subject you would like to write about, and my talk page is open for any questions you have in the meantime. Dana boomer (talk) 21:07, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Reply
Ah, my apologies for not notifying you that I had responded on my talk page. I generally do that without thinking, and I hate the "talkback" templates that some people use, so I never use them myself. I'll respond on your talk page in the future - we can either conduct the whole conversation here (I'll watch your page, so I'll see when you respond), or you can leave your replies on my page and I'll reply here, or we can move the whole thing to the article talk page (I'm also watching that, and left part of my response there, if you haven't seen it yet).

As for the actual answer: The move looks good. I'm not really up on the criteria for speedy deletion, but it looks like a good rationale. I apologize for using a longer article as my example, perhaps Boulonnais horse might be an easier one to look at - it's about half the length, but includes both repeated refs and split (short/long) references. Repeated refs (which give refs the a, b, c at the beginning in the References section) and split (short/long version) refs are two separate things. What you described on my talk page, where a ref is given in full the first time and then just the named ref, (, for example) is used after, is a repeated ref, which makes the a, b, c designation in the references section. An example of this is ref #2 in the Boulonnais article linked above. Split references, which use a short version (generally author, page or author, title, page) in the references and then the full ref (including publisher, isbn, date, etc) is put in a separate section. An example of this is ref #7 in the Boulonnais article. Ref #1 is an example of a ref that combines the named reference feature with the split reference format. The split reference format makes it easier and shorter if you're going to be using the same reference, generally a book or an article, multiple times while citing different pages (see the multiple references to the Edwards book for an example of this). However, if you're going to be using many books but only citing one section of pages from each, sometimes its easier to just put all of the information in one section and not use a split references format. Different editors prefer different formats, and many editors (including myself) use different formats depending on the mix of sources that we're using in a particular article. I know this makes it a bit confusing when you're first starting to edit Wikipedia, but basically, as long as you include all of the information that you have on a reference (page numbers are important!), you'll be fine. I'll follow along and, if I see something that looks odd, I'll make an example edit or leave a note on the article talk page. I hope this answer helps, and I apologize for all of the horse breed example articles I'm giving you - it's my main editing area, and all of the non-breed articles I've written are rather long and have an even more confusing mix of sourcing; I'm trying to keep things rather simple to start out with :) Dana boomer (talk) 02:30, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

GOCE drive newsletter
Sent on behalf of the Guild of Copy Editors using AWB on 16:18, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

GOCE drive newsletter
Sent on behalf of the Guild of Copy Editors using AWB on 00:59, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

GOCE drive newsletter
Sent on behalf of the Guild of Copy Editors using AWB on 10:34, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

GOCE 2011 Year-End Report
Sent on behalf of the Guild of Copy Editors using AWB on 06:07, 2 January 2012 (UTC)