User talk:Dsphillfan

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Re Glen Gilmore -- (1) Wikipedia is not a place for campaign bios. I've edited a lot of the promotional stuff out of the article. (2) Picture galleries go at the end of the article, not the beginning. Thanks, NawlinWiki 14:26, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Second warning on Glen Gilmore. Please read Neutral point of view. You can't post his unedited, laudatory campaign bio as an encyclopedia article. NawlinWiki 14:42, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

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Glen Gilmore
Your recent edit of the Glen Gilmore article indicates that you are the author of the .pdf document on the township's website used as a source. While "full responsibility" is taken, no sources are provided, in violation of WP:ATT, and the material is written with a promotional tone that violates Wikipedia's encyclopedic requirements. Furthermore, the fact that you are also involved with adding material to the township's website seems to make it clear that a conflict of interest issue is apparent. Please review Wikipedia policy in this regard and ensure that any additions are properly sources, written with a neutral point of view and are written with apropriate distance from the subject. Alansohn 02:34, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Everything listed in the bio is based on fact or documented opinion - the fact that Gilmore is running against republican JB is not part of Gilmore's biography. i wrote the website bio BECAUSE i have distance from the subject. What documentation is needed to permit the post as I have and had written? I want to be in complience with the rules...

I have reverted your edits, as the point of Wikipedia isn't to host "official" biographies, but ones that are written with a WP:NPOV. I respectfully encourage you to examine your possible WP:COI issues before continuing to edit this article. Movingboxes (talk) 14:45, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

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More on Gilmore
We had a discussion above in which you had disclosed that you were the author of the material about Gilmore on the township's website, which would seem to present problems (at best) with Wikipedia policy on conflict of interest and policy on maintaining a neutral point of view. While there may be some worthwhile material mixed in, I am in agreement that this is not a neutral biography. Any article that includes "Mayor Gilmore and his wife enjoy walking their dog “Simba” in Veterans Park, working in their garden, reading, movies, mountain biking, and kayaking on local waterways." is characteristic of a puff piece appropriate for campaign literature, not an encyclopedia. This material will need to be removed until these issues can be addressed. Alansohn (talk) 15:38, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

I will try to make it better in compliance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dsphillfan (talk • contribs)
 * There is useful material in the bio, but it needs to be pulled out, properly sourced, and presented in a neutral manner. I think you're better off trying to add content in then to trim the official bio down. Alansohn (talk) 15:53, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Regarding your message on my talk page: an "official" bio is almost POV by definition and the version you were posting was almost hagiographic in tone. Keep this in mind--an ideal biographical entry is one that both Gilmore supporters and opponents could agree is accurate. Movingboxes (talk) 16:55, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Adding: yes, a user's talk page is the best way to contact them. Let me know if I can help with anything else. Movingboxes (talk) 17:04, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Gilmore is no longer in the public sector, has no political interest, and has no "opponents" any longer. I hope my recent edits leave us better off.

You may remove that gun information if you don't feel it add to the article. The main objections that I had to your edit was the larger-than-standard size of the picture and the prominent placing of the bulletpoint list. Lists are generally not approved of and it is preferred that the information in them be worked into the article. Movingboxes (talk) 17:29, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Your version of the article (the most recent one) looks worse than the previous one, specifically the lead. The lead you replaced was more informative, especially to non-American readers. Your lead is missing a lot of internal links as well. And the picture looks all messed up. You don't want me to revert your edits, and that's fine. Can you find a way to improve the version that you just created? Movingboxes (talk) 17:32, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

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Your recent edits
Thank you. --Dsphillfan (talk) 17:03, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Editing approach at Gilmore
As I have stated above, I think there is valid material about Gilmore that should be added to the article from portions of his official biography. However, the approach should be to use the shell that has a standard lead, sources, references, links and categories, and to add small chinks of neutrally-worded sourced material at a time, allowing you and other editors to digest the changes before making other changes. Overlaying the entire text of the article with huge chunks of text cut and pasted from elsewhere, even if trimmed down, is not a productive approach to expanding and improving the article. Alansohn (talk) 17:39, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

I think this recent change may help --Dsphillfan (talk) 17:59, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

I still consider the current version inferior to the previous version. Look at the difference in the leads, specificially. The first lead made Gilmore and his notability instantly clear and understandable to all readers, including those who are non-American. There were standard internal links and the style was consistent with other articles. Your version also has formatting and reference issues. Movingboxes (talk) 19:10, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree that there are still issues. I would strongly suggest using this version -- which includes a clearly formatted lead, references, links and categories -- and add to it small chunks of material, perhaps a paragraph or two at a time, to this shell, adding the required references for all text added and making sure not to remove any of the existing article. I and other editors will be more than happy to help structure the artilce but removing standard article content can be disruptive. Alansohn (talk) 19:45, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Editing advice
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Nomination of Glen Gilmore for deletion
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Nomination of Glen Gilmore for deletion
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