User talk:Dthomsen8/Archive 4

July 2010-September 2010 User talk page Dthoomsen8

Test reference

 * User:Dthomsen8/NYC-more Dunaway reference
 * User:Dthomsen8/PA Compacts
 * User:Dthomsen8/NYC-more
 * User:Dthomsen8/AfD

Drafts

 * /Draft articles
 * User:Kingbotk/Plugin Plugin for template changing.

Bridges

 * /SEPTA Regional Rail Bridge - Built 1930, per Triumph II, pp. 64-66, needs work.
 * /City Avenue Bridges - very bare start
 * /Rail Bridge - start for rail bridges, miscellaneous parts

Later attention list

 * /Crooked Billet
 * Benjamin Obdyke Inc!
 * List of National Historic Landmarks in Philadelphia photos issue?! Val Camonica
 * on the Market Street Bridge

Bache

 * Bache's newspaper

NE NEIGHBORHOODS
Castor

/Northwood talk

Northwood

Other

 * MyWikiBiz
 * /Deeper


 * /PA2010 Election Calendar
 * /Article from DB Article from database method
 * /MOS My MOS for last five sections of an article.
 * /book Book template / article. --DThomsen8 (talk) 19:59, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
 * /Book citations
 * /Print instructions

New Articles

 * /Badges
 * /PWD


 * /Garden Club of America Not Garden Clubs of America
 * /Organizations Philadelphia organization infoboxes for existing articles

SSD articles

 * /iogen


 * /PhilaRDA
 * /MSSD http://www.manayunk.com/ ? maybe
 * /SSHD
 * /PMMA PMAA list of URL, authority name --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:13, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * /List of municipal authorities in Philadelphia Reference link --DThomsen8 (talk) 22:07, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
 * /GirardCollege Girard College infobox--DThomsen8 (talk) 22:52, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
 * /List of PA Housing Authorities --DThomsen8 (talk) 23:13, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * /Bassetts Dthomsen8 (talk) Bassetts Ice Cream
 * /List of Philadelphia County municipal authorities--DThomsen8 (talk) 02:26, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * /SSD SSD from Excel, other SSD information.

Early sandboxes

 * /sandbox01 Dthomsen8 (talk) PMHS - Assessments
 * /sandbox02 Dthomsen8 (talk) Calligraphy, PGW, Girard Bank
 * /sandbox03 Dthomsen8 (talk) - Owen Biddle, etc.
 * /sandbox04 Dthomsen8 (talk) US Agency list, various small items
 * /sandbox05 Dthomsen8 (talk) Bios
 * /sandbox06 Dthomsen8 (talk) US cftc.

Other links

 * /USGimages --DThomsen8 (talk) 00:17, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * /Winfonts --DThomsen8 (talk) 18:52, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Stephen Moylan and Moylan house? and Kent Glasscock

Project tags not needed
Re: - this article is already within scope of WikiProject Pittsburgh, which is part of Pennsylvania WikiProject, so I think the project template here is not needed. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 15:24, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

You are now a Reviewer
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Article assessments
I saw your post at User talk:RJHall: is there anything I can help you with? I'd be happy to do whatever I can.-- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:44, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * There are many township articles in the Category:Pennsylvania, without an importance, either class=stub, (i.e. Talk:Caernarvon Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania} or without a class at all, (i.e. Talk:Cornplanter Township, Venango County, Pennsylvania). All of these township articles should be made class=stub, importance=low. Is it possible to make a mass change, without disturbing the other township articles? --DThomsen8 (talk) 23:52, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Right - have a look. I think I've caught them all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 02:24, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

College Hill (Beaver Falls)
You added an Erie Wikiproject tag to this article's talk page; why? It's in Beaver County, just northwest of Pittsburgh and four counties south of Erie. Nyttend (talk) 01:50, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I made a mistake, which I have corrected by making it Pittsburgh instead. --DThomsen8 (talk) 17:52, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

TUSC token fa1efa7453f56017a17b6c3c4dae85bd
I am now proud owner of a TUSC account!

Pittsburgh/Allegheny County
I agree with you about Allegheny County probably being somewhere in the lead of the Pittsburgh article. Why don't you go ahead and add it back to the lead somewhere or at least start a discussion about it on its talk page. CrazyPaco (talk) 07:32, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the star
It's always nice to see that somebody is watching!

Also, you might want to see File:Minquas Path Rose Valley.JPG on List of Pennsylvania state historical markers in Delaware County. Any comments or concerns welcome. Smallbones (talk) 23:54, 10 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I recently received my first Barnstar. That event made me look around for where I could bestow one, so there you are! I am sorry I missed meeting you at the Wikipedia takes Philadelphia event this spring. I am contemplating the NYC meeting, but not sure yet. The photo of the marker is not clear enough for me to read it, but such an early marker is clearly not copyrighted or trademarked, so I do not see how anyone would have any concerns about having it displayed in this list, or copying the text elsewhere. --DThomsen8 (talk) 00:38, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Article assessements
I saw this edit and need to correct a few things. First, MILHIST does not use C-class at all so please cease assessing MILHIST articles as such. Second, just assessing an MILHIST or SHIPS article as B or C does not work, the B-Class checklist needs to be correctly filled out. Please familiarize yourself with the assessment policies and guidelines of projects before assessing articles for them. Thanks, -MBK004 18:58, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Vaughn Correctional Center
Hey! Regarding the listing of that article within WikiProject Philadelphia...

The prison happens to be in New Castle County, DE. If the prison was in another county in Delaware, it wouldn't be in the scope of the Philadelphia project. However, everything in NCE is a part of Greater Philly as defined by the federal government. WhisperToMe (talk) 05:00, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Sol Luis Descartes...
...died several years ago. I've had some trouble finding links to sources-still working on it. Pr4ever (talk) 21:48, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Rafael Martinez Nadal died in 1941, as the article states. Pr4ever (talk) 21:51, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Bridge chaser
I've been photographing and geofixing bridges, for example Commons:Category:Harlem River crossings, for a couple years now. Maybe we should swap tips at Wiki New York today and tomorrow. Look for the white beard under the straw hat and the black camera dangling under all that. Jim.henderson (talk) 11:51, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * So, we met briefly among the hubbub after your quick presentation. I use This Google Maps crosshair page in Manhattan which I adapted from Geocoding in central Europe.  You can adjust yours for William Penn's hat or some other local landmark.  I mostly use it to paste the Commons:Template:Location whence I shot the picture, but sometimes to paste the Template:Coord for the object location which I gather is your greater interest.


 * And tomorrow is the Open Mapping demo. I hope not to be too busy with other matters.  Jim.henderson (talk) 01:55, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Mill Creek drift catcher
Glad you like the catcher (I thought it and the tube were intersting enough to warrant some research on the creek). I do happen to have two more photos of the catcher: one is similar to the current photo, except more of the bridge in is view and there is no train on it; the second is similar to the first but from a slightly different angle.

Thanks for adding the Commons category, I'm going to have to look for some other photos that I know exist that need the category too. ​​​​​​ ​​ Niagara ​​Don't give up the ship 20:09, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I am supposing that you will add the additional photos to the Commons. Even a fine article can be better, and yours would be enhanced with a map of the creek, and perhaps a photo of where the creek leaves the tube. There are editors who specialize in creating maps, if you are not able to do it yourself. See Brandywine Creek (Christina River) for a creek map example. When I add the bridge to bridgehunters.com, I will post the URL here. --DThomsen8 (talk) 21:26, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


 * OK, both photos of the catcher are up. I do have a map in the works, but its not finished yet ;-) Finetooth provided some comments on how to expand the article, so when I get a chance to do some more research and to visit the creek again I'll see about more photos. ​​​​​​ ​​ Niagara ​​Don't give up the ship 22:12, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Good work. --DThomsen8 (talk) 22:13, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of SEPTA Regional Rail Bridge
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 * This was a mistake on my part. Glad to see this correction done. --DThomsen8 (talk) 00:00, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

SEPTA Regional Rail Bridge
In the message on my talk page, you seem to be talking about two different railroad bridges across the Schuylkill north of Market Street. The 1880-81 bridge was built for the Philadelphia & Columbia Railroad's Filbert Street Extension to the original Broad Street Station. The "Chinese Wall" bridge that currently stands was built in the 1930s, to the north of the 1880-81 bridge, in the block between Filbert and Cuthbert. Both bridges are visible in the aerial photos shown in this article.--Martindelaware (talk) 06:04, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The bridge I want to write an article about is at 39.95611°N, -75.17972°W and now carries the SEPTA Regional Rail trains between 30th Street Station and Suburban Station. There is only one railroad bridge on the list of bridges between the JFK bridge and the Vine Street Expressway Bridge. --DThomsen8 (talk) 11:46, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidt8 (talk • contribs) 11:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your kind words. I don't know what to call this bridge. It is unlabeled on my 1901 Bromley Atlas, and I haven't found it in other sources. It was because of this bridge that I didn't call the Connecting Railway Bridge the "Pennsylvania Railroad Bridge over Schuylkill River", as one historical source did. Sorry to not be more helpful.
 * I think you'll like what I added to your Columbia Railroad Bridge. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 16:44, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
 * This bridge was built about 1930, the same time as the 30th Street Station, but I do not have any further information yet. --DThomsen8 (talk) 01:17, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Can do!
I'll have an article - however short(!) - on the Todd House by next week. Thanks for thinking of me when it came up.

My real medium-term goal is to complete the photos for the NRHP list for Philadelphia - only 99 to go! If you have any pix, especially on the NE side, please do include them. Another area you might help with is, if you see some sub-par photos on the list, please let me know about them (or note them on the list's talk page).

If you like Philly bridges, see Thirty-third Street Bridge in Philadelphia.

All the best,

Smallbones (talk) 21:55, 8 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Sounds very good to me.
 * I proposed something similar on B&W photos at Talk:List of National Historic Landmarks in Philadelphia and got some counter feedback. SOME of the historical photos are bad, at least in our context, but some are quite nice.
 * The HABS photos are almost uniformly good, but I don't think they show up well on the list pages - see e.g. the photo at Charles Willson Peale House. In any case, a review of all the photos - color and B&W - would be worthwhile.  BTW, I think I got some good shots in Camden today, but haven't uploaded them yet.  And what's "Commonist"?  Smallbones (talk) 20:10, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Commonist is a tool to upload photos to Wikimedia Commons. will tell you about it.  It is a great way to upload multiple photos for the same or a nearby set of photos, and it creates a gallery in the Commons which is very helpful in finding photos later. I like it because I can add the permission (always Public Domain), the descriptions and categories in one place. How are you uploading photos? --DThomsen8 (talk) 21:22, 9 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I'll be trying out the Commonist software, but it looks like a hassle to install and get used to. For now, I'll be uploading one photo at a time, trying to get relevant info for each separate photo.
 * I'm honored that you are using the userbox that I modified from those on the NRHP wikiproject page. I've just used it as a way to show myself that I really am getting something done and making some progress.  The only rule that I use is that, if I add a pix to a NRHP list for a site that doesn't already have a pix, then I add one to the total.  But if there is already a pix - even if I replace it - then I don't add anything.  But use whatever "rule" you think best.  I'm starting to have mixed feelings on the box - it does take some additional work keeping track, and maybe it's a bit vain.  I've tentatively decided that once I can put up "over 1000" then I'll stop there.  Smallbones (talk) 15:20, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Commonist is a bit of a hassle to get going, but once installed, it makes adding several photos much easier, and also assists with getting the categories in place. Worth the effort! Wikimedia Commons has fewer categories shown for photos, but I am trying to do my own uploads as complete as possible, for the benefit of future editors. NHRP photos are likely to be used in the future in articles, so it is good to make them easy to find, and to have some documentation if I can find it. Perhaps you might give me a cookbook method of finding the NHRP documentation for a particular photo I have uploaded, like the James Martin School. It seems a bit tricky to me. --DThomsen8 (talk) 17:01, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Rescue
Articles for deletion/Armageddon theology WritersCramp (talk) 13:04, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Libraries look good
The zip codes should be formatted identically, or thrown out (they're not that important). I added a note on Wyoming from the PMHC marker. We missed each other by 1 day, I was across the street at the Clara Barton School. Smallbones (talk) 02:57, 18 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I changed most of the zip codes, they were inconsistently formatted. A few are missing or unverified. For some people, the zip codes are something of a guide as to where some addresses are located. The Free Library of Philadelphia has a search feature by zip code, which is partly why I included it in the List of Carnegie libraries in Philadelphia. I like that door photo. --DThomsen8 (talk) 03:10, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Pending changes/Straw poll on interim usage
Hi. As you recently commented in the straw poll regarding the ongoing usage and trial of Pending changes, this is to notify you that there is an interim straw poll with regard to keeping the tool switched on or switching it off while improvements are worked on and due for release on November 9, 2010. This new poll is only in regard to this issue and sets no precedent for any future usage. Your input on this issue is greatly appreciated. Off2riorob (talk) 23:32, 20 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, I said Keep it going. --DThomsen8 (talk) 00:19, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

John Hunyadi
I'm afraid my only contribution to the PC process for this article was to accept a very minor maintenance edit which had been made by a maintenance bot. Looking at the history of the article shows some edit warring and dubious editing by anons; PC isn't perfect, but the alternative might have been semi- or even full-protection, which would have been far more drastic, dare one say draconian, even. Sorry I cannot be more helpful - as I say, this isn't an article I'm really familiar with unfortunately =/ Keristrasza (talk) 12:26, 21 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your prompt response. My primary objective is to learn how I can say that certain articles may not be appropriate for PC. Human judgment is needed in this case by experienced editors who know the alternatives, and maybe even something about John Hunyadi, too. Your response is helpful, and perhaps elsewhere I will find out about who should be contacted to say that I think that semi-protection or full-protection should be considered. Maybe, as you say, that would be draconian, but I would leave that to those who have experience with making such choices. --DThomsen8 (talk) 12:35, 21 September 2010 (UTC)


 * My edit was technical too. Most of the changes to the article appear to be from autoconfirmed or confirmed editors to whom PC is transparent. To ask for Page protection go to Requests for page protection or better still install Twinkle from My Preferences (if you're not using Internet Explorer) Prestonmag (talk) 19:47, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Oldest buildings
He's got several articles on "oldest buildings" and I've added a few when I see something appropriate - plus he likes to use my pix :) The exercise is fraught with dangers, however. I'll just note he says "This article attempts..." and as long as consensus is also attempted ... I'll keep an eye pealed for sites in Philly.

BTW, 23 pix to go for Fully Illustrated in Philly (but they are all over creation) - see User:Smallbones/NRHP1 Smallbones (talk) 01:44, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

List of the oldest buildings in Pennsylvania
Feel free to add buildings to the list as you see fit. I just started with a few that I thought were among the oldest in the state or the oldest of certain types. Swampyank (talk) 16:04, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Northwood
Northwood is west of Frankford, I think. Wilson is definitely not in Northwood. I'd call it Castor Gardens, but the article on wiki calls that neighborhood "ill-defined", so it's hard to say. Castor Gardens is a lot more accurate than Northwood, though.

Great work on that page, by the way. I've enjoyed watching the pictures go up. Coemgenus 01:27, 27 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Smallbones and I are working on this and other NRHP lists. I have mainly worked on the Northeast, while Smallbones does Northwest and elsewhere. I think the other sections of the city are completed. i am going to change the neighborhood to Castor Gardens. You should also check out List of Carnegie libraries in Philadelphia for the several libraries in the Northeast. I did a lot of work on this list, but there are still a few gaps. --DThomsen8 (talk) 11:37, 27 September 2010 (UTC)