User talk:Duane543/Archive 1

Pomona Sprout vs. Death Eaters
Ok. Thanks for clearing that up, because I wasn't sure either way... Emily 02:03, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Black Family Tree
"Seeing your talk page, you have a history of breaking the Wikipedia:Verifiability policy. You must realize that you have no evidence that the Potters and Weasleys are related other than a Potter married into the Black family. Are all people with your last name related to you? Do not get me wrong, I agree with you that it is strong possiblity that the Potters and Weasleys are somehow related. The fact is until you can back it up with reliable sources this section will be deleted again. If you continue breaking the Wikipedia:Verifiability policy your account can be blocked or worse you will be banned. So, either cite reliable sources or delete the Weasley - Potters section from the a Black family tree. (Duane543 17:45, 29 September 2006 (UTC)) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Michaelsanders""
 * Given that my great-grandfather only adopted it in 1920, probably not...

As for the Tree: what you are not taking into account is that it is an artificial creation, rather than an organic developement. In real life, yes, just because two people share a surname doesn't make them related. But the Tree was created by Rowling as part of her series. How likely is it, really, that she would place someone named Potter on the Tree that was NOT related to Harry? And given the generational gap between the male Potter and Sirius (which would make sense if the Potter was James), it is certainly likely to be James Potter. And many people agree with this. So its existence certainly needs to be referred to. And the effects if such is the case. Michaelsanders 20:03, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, it's not really my work: it's the work of quite a few editors. Michaelsanders 00:28, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Not quite a hat-trick in 24 hours, but I suggest you also work to keep the article free of his speculation. He's not getting the message, but I can't block him as yet. I can only block him (or get him blocked) if he reverts four times in a 24 hour period. --Deathphoenix ʕ 05:17, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

No problem. As always, I'll try to lend a hand or an opinion when asked. --Deathphoenix ʕ 16:51, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Apology Accepted
We all say silly things when our tempers get up, and it wasn't as bad as a few of my statements. Personally, I prefer to simply never mention the matter - whether I am the insulter or insulted - once my temper has cooled. Unfortunately, whilst deathphoenix fails (refuses?) to respond, leaving this issue effectively in limbo, I can't really cool off completely. I apologise in advance to any references I make to the comment. I do hope that we can work together more constructively than we have so far. Michaelsanders 21:42, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Outside Help
Try T-Dot - though he was less than helpful when I asked him to mediate in a Weasley family dispute. Don't get Deathphoenix, it'll only make things awkward. I might try Sandpiper - though I have no idea if s/he answers requests like that. If T-Dot doesn't respond, or help, then post on the project page. Michaelsanders 12:33, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Your Edit to Talk:Pomona Sprout
Please do not replace Wikipedia pages or sections with blank content. It is considered vandalism. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. John Reaves 04:23, 10 December 2006 (UTC)


 * What you did was delete the Harry Potter Wikiproject template, and that is vandalism. I suggest you be more careful next time you're deleting your own comments.  John Reaves 17:31, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Slug Club
No, he put the category up for deletion (see here: ), since it merely repeats information already in the article and adds little of merit. Or so I think: certainly, when clicking on the tag, I get that. Michaelsanders 18:10, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Assistance
Look at Students in Harry Potter's Year, Harry Potter characters birthday list, and the project page. Take a look at the issue, and contribute. Whether you disagree or disagree, it is vital that these issues are decided by editors who are familiar with Harry Potter and who are capable of deciding upon the worth of the articles, rather than editors who clearly have deep contempt for it and no real understanding of the subject. Please intervene. Michaelsanders 22:24, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

TenTen
Oh, yeah! I was thinking about that... but, hey, you already added almost every character I was going to add (THANKS! I was SO waiting for you to do that XP You know, write big texts in english is a real pain for me).

EDIT: Oh, forget it! Saw the whole article now. You added like, every character on the series! Tomorrow I will add the japanese names and the images (and I must say I love you! Old Aya is there *_*) - Access Timeco 02:27, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I also don't think he fit there to much, but it seemed the best. He is not part of the "F", the F are Ishiyumi, Tsumuji, Watari, Kabuto, Kagiroi and, who-knows-where-he-is, Wani (the White Feather guys). He is also not from Juukenbu, not Enforcement. At least he WAS from "Feudal Japan" part, so he fits there better than on the other disponible areas. - Access Timeco 03:13, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I've upgraded the character article of Tenten to B assessment. I changed the name to comply with WP policy on naming character articles and included it into the Manga and anime articles by series category. The article needs a copyedit, particularly looking for Words to avoid. For example, there are too many instances of the word "also" throughout the article. --Squilibob 05:10, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

About the images, agree with you. In fact, most of the characters I just took the images I had XP Unfortunately, I will travel today and will take a while until I come back (at least three weeks). Feel free to change any images. - Access Timeco 16:28, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi! No idea about the Kengo. I remember seeing somewhere about the honorific title, but don't know. On the japanese article, it is there just like the rest of the name. About the images, still not in the city with the computer that have the manga. One more week to go. - Access Timeco 16:50, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

My opinion about what? Kengo? Don't know, maybe you're right. About the travel, not yet (I'm in the city where I study, not the city where I have Tenjho Tenge -_-) - Access Timeco 01:40, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Re:Thanks
"I just want to thank you for your contributions to the Tenjho Tenge character page. I hope that you will continue to add and refine this page. (Duane543 23:34, 15 January 2007 (UTC))" No problem. Just happy that no ones upset about my "tampering". But I'm happy to help out whenever I can. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Reige (talk • contribs)

Welcomebot Question
Hey Duane, no Wikipedia doesn't have a bot that automatically sends a welcome message to someone. Perhaps it was deliberately done so new users actually have a real live human notice them and send a message. It's an interesting idea you have. Perhaps you make a suggestion to Bot requests. --Deathphoenix ʕ 22:15, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Mouth organ
Thanks for the info. :-) --Deathphoenix ʕ 15:10, 2 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks from me too. Michaelsanders 15:12, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Category problem
The categories are automatically added using the infobox as you guessed. I wouldn't worry too much about a page in the User namespace being in the category. Code could be added easily to the infobox to stop it adding categories outside of the main article namespace if this became a problem in future. (using if NAMESPACE =) --Squilibob 04:02, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I have edited the infobox so that it does not add categories to pages in the user namespace anymore. --Squilibob 01:36, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Shonan Junai Gumi
I assume you're more familiar with the work than I am, so I have a question: are the names under  'Shinigami' Natsu correct? Looking through the Japanese wiki page, I see two names connected to his character: 水樹・スミス・夏希, Natsu, and 水樹・スミス・フユカ, his sister; however, these seem to indicate that the family name should be Mizuki-Smith (or Smith-Mizuki), and that the sister's name is Fuyuka, instead of the family name being Fuyuka-Smith.

As for the rest of the names, there's no kana on ja:湘南純愛組!, which would make the process much easier, but I'm working on it. — TangentCube /c /t 03:30, 15 February 2007 (UTC)


 * in re translations: usually, the Japanese page will have a kana pronounciation guide, so it's a simple matter of searching for the kana; in this case, there were no guides, so I took the list of names and ran each one through WWWJDIC's enamdict database. I had to make a couple best-guess judgement calls for some of the names, as there were no exact matches (Saegusa and Akimitsu come to mind).  Other than that, I'm not doing any translation; I imagine that would help match up the descriptions for the names I didn't match up before, but what I've heard about machine translation is... unflattering, at best, so I haven't tried it.  — TangentCube /c /t 00:06, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Article assessment
Feel free to assess articles as you see fit. The assessments are guides for editors and give the WikiProject a general idea of what needs priority and where the project stands. I think the difference between Start and B is pretty obvious if you read the criteria. In my interpretation, a B-class article should have sections on their role in the plot, personal information, a picture, a reference and should be encyclopedic.

Ulquiorra is a good example of a B article, it has all of the above where Sting Oakley is a Start article because it is missing references, personal information is sparse and it is badly written. --Squilibob 01:36, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

note on wikilinking
When making a link, using a pipe to point to a version with underscores (e.g. Boys Be... ) is unnecessary, as the software will convert spaces automatically; compare Boys_Be... and Boys Be... — TangentCube /c /t 23:13, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Claymore
Thanks for spellchecking the Claymore (manga) article. But, as a tip in the future, there's no need to systematically change English spellings for words to American spellings, like organisation to organization and realise to realize. I'm not sure what the standard is according to the Manual of Style, but neither is more "right" than the other per se. Leebo 86 03:34, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the article is a bit crufty. I happened upon it when updating for shows that are premiering this spring in Japan. I'll probably take a closer look at the article in depth when I begin to add more info about the TV show. So, for now, I'm an "outsider" to the article just like you. I won't touch it for now. Leebo 86 04:12, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Macrons
Usually, kana combinations that end in _o+u (e.g. こう ko+u, きょう kyo+u) and the combination o+o (おお) get a macron ō, and combinations that end in _u+u (e.g. くう ku+u, りゅう ryu+u) get a ū). There are exceptions, of course; some of the more notable ones I can think of are Shihouin Yoruichi, from Bleach (I forget why, but I'm sure it's in a talk archive somewhere); Mesousa, from Pani Poni Dash! (it's a combination of meso and usagi); and the manga-ka Yuu Watase (the name Yuu is two kanji, read yu and u).

With names written in katakana, however, all long sounds indicated with a chōon (ー) get macrons; there's a number of examples at List of Eureka Seven episodes, as all the episode titles, with the exception of ep. 50, are written in katakana.

This is how I interpret WP:MOS-JA, anyway. — TangentCube /c /t 06:02, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

tenjou tenge question
i think its both actually. quick skim through chapters...in 191 they call him ichiyou, but in 192 he calls himself "head of the nagi family kengo". ichiyou could be a nickname, it could be the name he prefers (like souichiro doesn't want to be called kengo), or there is the fact they were pretending he was a girl so it maybe an invented name. since they are ALL called kengo i guess its not very identifying, they probably use the other name to distinguish which nagi head they are talking about...other wise its y'ou're left wonder which generation someone's talking about. i know that's vauge as hell but its all i got lol. --Grimjaw 22:28, 27 February 2007 (UTC)


 * yeah i agree with that i don't think Kengo is actually a name people call them in conversation etc. as for the kagesada thing i created a page for him but i couldn't remember which was his family name etc. i put it on the talk page. if i'm wrong (and i probably am) i'll just change it on the other pages...i don't remember how to fix it in the article heading tho...do you know how? --Grimjaw 21:12, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * nevermind i remembered so i fixed it --Grimjaw 21:24, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

btw i noticed there was actually a plot summary page for tenjou tenge the other day and tried to fix it up etc. i just made up arc names to split it into section and make things easier to find. if you want to change an arc name feel free...but when it came to all the stuff in ancient japan i had no idea what was going on (i know nothing about japanese history). the whole thing was about two volumes long and i gave it like 3 sentences lol. Since u asked about ichiyo, did you actually understand that stuff? if you did,(and have the necissary free time) could you try and add some stuff there? --Grimjaw 02:13, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

btw i just found a page of the manga were he clearly states his name is nagi ichiyo kengo.

That whole eye thing went totally over my head actually, it took me awhile to figure out he was switching bodies through the eye thing lol. i'm the souhaku of the past looks like the one now and all...i thought he had some age reversing abilities with the death control power (he kept inue and tesuhito alive and young so long). so i thought he just made himself younger when he was with makiko, but the whole thing with souichiro's eye messes that up and such. i'm wondering why the hell hasn't aya said something about it? u'd think souichiro being possesed might be worth bringing up lol.

but since souhaku was in control of the body u can't really give credit to the other guy as the father i suppose. he hasn't gained control over souichiro yet (he may just be letting him maintain control for now) so who knows how it works. the old souhaku may look like him now because he like re-write the dna to his own or something (maybe as a different species the dog is immune?) thus he really would have half souhaku's dna...anyways just an idea. point is they can't really give random possessed (and likely now dead) guy the dad title lol. --Grimjaw 04:12, 1 March 2007 (UTC)


 * oh ok, that simplifies it a lot. i'm actually gonna re-read those two volumes and see if i can make some sense of it this time through. I wonder tho, souchiro's name is kengo also. I know noone is gonna think to type it in a search, but maybe we should at least make a mention of it in the article. what do u think? --Grimjaw 07:12, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

btw bro i made an article for aya, thats a real long article potentially and i'm lazy. so if u want to look at it and see if u think its ok or if shit should be added let me know, or do it urself which ever. --Grimjaw 05:31, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

i added sohaku, but anyway i actually understand stuff in feudal japan now. once u understand all the stuff with tokuan shojo its alot easier to follow. but it leads me to my own question... when he fought yoshitaku (or whatever the swordsman name was), after he beat him with his own move it seemed (maybe i'm missing something) like he reshaped that dudes face to match ono jirou's (or whatever the dude he killed in the redlight distrcts name was). so is tokuan's power not only the manipulation of his own body/powers into others, but also the ability to change the body/powers of others? --Grimjaw 19:42, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

yeah i was just trying to group people half-assedly. i couldn't think of a better way to class ieyasu and some of thos others so whatever u feel is appropriate is fine with me. i don't know actually about sohaku's body jumping. he may have never taken over an old person before, or it may actually be his first switch...i was just throwing out the possibility, i don't wanna close a door when i just now, barely understand wtf happened in that arc lol. with tokuan i get that he shape shifts and such, but after he stole that dudes technique by mirroring his ki...i swear he reshaped the face of the guy he beat. he returned to his real form it seemed, but gave the yagyuu the other guys face somehow...its chapter 94 page 19 see if u get what i'm talking about, i totally didn't get that part. i just created Tetsuhito too, i gotta go add link and shit now tho. --Grimjaw 02:37, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Death Note
I'm I right to think that List of Death Note manga should be renamed List of Death Note media. I also don't think that page needs this Death Note tag. I want to make sure I'm right before doing anything because Death Note is a popular manga. (User:Duane543 04:44, 28 February 2007 (UTC))
 * Animanga articles called List of media are generally a group of different media such as soundtracks, episodes and tankōbon all in one article. I suggest just clarifying the name to List of Death Note manga volumes or List of Death Note manga tankōbon or List of Death Note manga chapters. Unless you merge all the media into one article, I'd stray away from calling it List of Death Note media. As for the category I think you're right, the question is what is the right category to put it in? There is a similar article in List of Cowboy Bebop manga, in name, and in the wrong categories. --Squilibob 05:00, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

tenjho tenge character articles
i'm gonna write an article for tessen ishiyumi, and after that Jushi Mataza Tsumuji. before i get to him tho, is mataza like a family honorific or something? everyone in the family has that as a middle name so i'm just wondering, i don't know how all that shit works, just seeing if u might.

i also edit bleach and a group of guys just kind of set up a general outline of how things are going to be done regarding that series, who deserves article and such (they even delete articles people make if they have dubbed them unworthy). like if this was bleach my tetsuhito article would have been deleted since hes dead (which = unimportant to the guys that call the shots). so since u and me are about it for tenjho tenge editors, i kinda want to get on the same page so to speak.

what other characters do u think deserve articles, i mean there are A LOT of characters, and quite a few we don't know enough about to warrant an article. since ur the only other person who does tenjho tenge editing, who do u think i should write articles for? there are some like dogen takayanagi, where he's a supporting character but he shows up quite a bit, and has a pretty important role and such. i'll write the articles as i get time, but i'm not all that sure of who deserves one. like i like that mouki kid so i'm inclined to do an article for him, yet he's a minor character, and pretty well written out of the story already. obviously i'm not gonna write an article for everyone, it would take forever and not everyone has enough info...so who makes the cut? any others u think really deserve their own article? --Grimjaw 22:47, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah i did Emi off the top of my head, its a pretty piss poor article so it needs work. I did tessen and shinichiro today. i did shinichiro just so at least the juuken part of the template is actually all working. it took me WAAAAY longer than i expected so i may not get to mataza till after spring break. but at i've done a ton of crap this week tenjho tenge wise so it can wait lol. i usually keep the manga on cd, but i put it back on my harddrive so i have quick access to it. hence why tessen and shinichiro are laced with citations and such. hopefully having the reference will step up my article quality. i'll add like a supporting characters section to the template whenever i make dogen and makiko i guess...unless u can think of a better heading for them. --Grimjaw 06:59, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

dogen was in there too? i totally don't remember that, do u know what chapter it was...i don't have my normal computer or cd's since it's spring break so i can't just search through the manga like normal. i'll have to download the chapter, and i don't want to have to dl like 10 chapters to find it, so i can see if there is any indication as to why he is there. if it wasn't the new guy who added it but you, i'd of just left it; i don't trust random dude number five over my memory lol. i can't tell if the kabane kid is a boy or girl either...i'm not familiar with japanese names but hirohiko sounds like a boys name so i assume its a he, not anything i'd wanna add to an article just due to uncertainty tho. btw mataza is the next in line for an article, i'll write it offline when i have time over spring break and such, but still i don't expect it will be done till next week, besides, like i said i don't have the manga here. do u happen to know the range of chapters from the attack on the enmi estate to makiko stopping souichiro? at least then i can dl them here and actually have citations in the article. i'll probably do katsumi next since his will likely be short, from there its a toss up. --Grimjaw 04:03, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * actually no i didn't know that, i've never found a site with the manga aside from stoptazmo. i appreciate the chapter numbers btw. no i don't recall hirohiko being called he or she or anything off the top of my head, but like i said i don't have the manga with me to check. i hate androgenous characters in anime. --Grimjaw 04:56, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

rar
i'm not some kind of expert or anything, but i deal with em pretty frequently. download winrar, its almost exactly like winzip and will also open .zip files...unlike winzip they rig it so only it can open .rar files cuz they are bastards. i've also seen some setups where the file is split in to parts u download all the parts then winrar puts it together as one file. u can get winrar here if u need it. http://www.download.com/WinRAR/3000-2250_4-10614813.html?tag=lst-0-2 --Grimjaw 05:02, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Dorea Black, Charlus Potter, etc...
''This is some issues with the Dorea Black section of the Black family tree (Harry Potter) article. Back on March 5, 2007, I left this message on Michaelsanders talk page. I waited for a response and did not get one. So on  March 9, 2007 I removed it. As with always it has become an issue. Since it is Michael some personal attacks could happen if some editors that he respects don't get involved. My opinion is that the section is mostly theory, which is against the WP:NOR policy itself. However the theory based of of the dates that may be inaccurate (see the archive discussion ) (Duane543 05:11, 11 March 2007 (UTC))''


 * Just Posted on the Black Family Tree talk page. Hope it helps:

I think we can legitimately make a short statement reflecting exactly what we "know" for a fact - and that is this: according to the "canonical" version of the family tree, that one Dorea Black, daughter of Cygnus Black and Violetta Bulstrode, married one Charlus Potter, and they had an unnamed son together, who was apparently in the same generation (or perhaps once removed) as the generation of Harry's father James and his classmates. Yet the relationship between Charlus Potter and James Potter remains uncertain. The HP Lexicon (a fairly reliable source that Rowling has acknowledged), states:
 * "Charlus Potter: Rowling's Black Family Tree mentions a Charlus Potter who was married to Dorea Black (1920-1977), a grandchild of Phineas Nigellus Black (BFT). They had one son (unnamed) (BFT). It is doubtful that Charlus is Harry's grandfather because Jo has told us that "James's parents were elderly, were getting on a little when he was born, which explains the only child, very pampered, had-him-late-in-life-so-he's-an-extra-treasure, as often happens, I think. They were old in wizarding terms, and they died." (TLC) Dorea was only 57 when she died."   --T-dot (Talk | contribs) 15:04, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

hey
ok, i guess i was a bit hotheaded, and got too excited, lol anyways, the music page is done except for the translations, which i dont feel like getting into today, ill probably do that tomorrow. i've already put a request on the music page to stop it from getting deleted. anyways, should i just let them delete the other pages, or should i improve them, and get them appealed? anyways, ill probably upload a few more screenies tonight and ill call it a day! btw, new naruto shippuden episode is out, just so you know, incase you like naruto.

i think we're going to need more ppl... (Leefan 23:52, 15 March 2007 (UTC))

Funbari no Uta
Well the category should reflect what the article is, not what it is related to. So perhaps Category:Short stories or one of its subcats? --Squilibob 00:11, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

whew, now im definitely retiring for the night
well, i did more than i expected, and i completely finished the music/ost page, now it only needs more accurate translations, since the ones i made were off dictionary.com, and im not too sure how accurate it is. and also, do i have to cite dictionary.com? anyways, i think i'll tackle the anime episodes list tomorrow, and hopefully create a detailed char page for yamato and suzuka over the weekend. ja na! (Leefan 01:57, 16 March 2007 (UTC))

thx
thanks, but if theres one thing about me, its my overselfconfidence, so im not going to get discouraged that easily! ill take your advice, and do one article at a time. btw, did you look at the music page i finished? i dont think it requires anymore. on the topic of other anime sites, the main reason i started editing suzuka was because of its lack of information, since wikipedia is the main source i use for anime background and spoilers. infact, i've been modeling alot of the new things after other anime wikisites, such as the navigation bar, and the music page. im going to upload more pics today, and maybe get the anime episode list done. Leefan 18:29, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

format
hey man i just altered the format of the tenjho tenge character articles. for a lot of these people understanding their power is key to understanding shit that happens and such so i moved that section up by character outline. I renamed "powers" to "techniques and abilities" to match souichiro's article, i added a synopsis heading with the manga or anime as subheading and arc if necissary. check it out and tell me if u like that setup...if not we can just revert it. --Grimjaw 04:30, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * i moved that stuff up because it seems like in some cases such as sohaku, souichiro, noriko powers and such are explained twice. once in the synopsis and once in the powers sections. to smooth it out and make it so i don't have to write the same shit twice, or others read it twice i just moved it up. Mitsuomi does seem to have more mastery of the forged iron needle attack than others, he can use both arms simultaneoulsy where as the others have never done that. souichiro can do one arm then the other but not at the same time. whether or not his version is different, ie shin had a bastardized variation of it, or if maya and such use the real thing isn't really clear. btw i'm cranking out articles of the people who haven't done very much this week, they are easier and i can do more faster. i'll do dogen fu chien and makiko after i finish all the names currently on the template. all but madoka should be pretty fast tho. --Grimjaw 18:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

about when F was founded, i actually just wrote it that way to shorten up the explanation of what exactly F is in each character article. i'm not sure what exactly noriko was wanting with 24 people, all she said was "delivered". but mitsuomi talks about non-registered students and such, and i thought the point was for souichiro to steal red feather powers, unless there are 24 people with powers in todou we haven't seen yet or something. it could be a lot of things since u mentioned it, i'll try to fix that to make it more ambiguous. as for noriko's powers i totally don't remember anyone talking about it, and i wasn't sure where they came from. if i reread the whole manga for every character article i've written to catch such things, this would never get done lol. this is exactly why i rely on you to catch the stuff i miss. if you haven't changed it already i'll go do that now. let me know if i fucked something up on my other recent additions. --Grimjaw 22:43, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
 * btw i noticed someone edited the plot summary, saying all this shit about Kagesada getting owned and such. i can't find 103 anywhere so i took it out as it is most likely made up shit, considering the stuff said at the end of 102. i was totally wrong about the stuff with dogen in the limo tho so i was wondering if u had seen it some where to confirm that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Grimjaw (talk • contribs) 00:22, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

dude i totally forgot about half those techniques i did list tell i flipped through the manga to look for some. the aya and the returning teh scabbard and such for example. if someone would have added that i'd of taken it out as fake lol. --Grimjaw 23:34, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

103
hey have u found a translation or scalation of 103? if so where, i'm dying to actually read wtf was said. --Grimjaw 04:47, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * thanks man. btw have u seen what i did to the tenjho tenge page? i expanded the family's section...let me know if u like that idea. --Grimjaw 16:27, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

i altered it to better fit ur suggestions, is that what u were looking for? --Grimjaw 18:22, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

nah i'm not sure, but makiko was saying everyone has those gates. so i assume they are the same, if u wanna take it out tho i don't care...i hesitantly added it later just to fill in some space. --Grimjaw 20:18, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

yeah the "8th element" whatever the hell that is...i was inclined to write that into articles when i first saw it, but i have no idea what the hell that means lol. --Grimjaw 00:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

i don't know, i'm not against it necissarily if u want to add her go ahead...it seems she gonna be around for the whole tournament so why not? --Grimjaw 22:42, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * hey has anyone actually confirmed the shit about aya and the ladybug activating reiki? if not i'm goint to take it out of tetsuhito's page. --Grimjaw 19:40, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

yo i was considering making articles for some of the feudal japan characters, namely ichiyo, aya, and tokuan but i'm kinda iffy on the idea. on the one hand we are probably never going to see them again, particularly as two were (basically) dead by the end of the arc. on the other hand i think the articles could help people understand that arc better particularly tokuan's article (almost everyone i know who's read it had no idea wth was going on). so what do u think are characters we will never see again important enough? --Grimjaw 03:11, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

characters
yeah thats kinda what i was thinking, the plot summary already does it...thats y i was unsure. i wasn't sure about emi, she kinda seemed to be condesending to him; but i don't care tho so whatever. as for katsumi, remember tessen is a white feather yet had a gate power of his own so he can still steal NORMAL dragon's gates not just the red feather gates. i assume katsumi had one of the other normal gates. but ur theory is a possibility too. --Grimjaw 04:03, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 * i actually have been wondering if he's going to get any of sohaku's power, and since it was technically tokuans body some his or something. --Grimjaw 20:01, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

see i think u were still right on the dragon's roar, but who knows like i suggested in the initial article it could be some branch power or something sohaku created with a jutsu. i think aya refered to his manipulation jutsu as a "red feather magic" when she destroyed madoka's amulet...so it may be a created by red feather power as opposed to being a red feather power. as for the nihongo, it just looked stupid to me to have the little (?) shit with nothing there. its just as easy to add it back when we have the japanese for it. with regard to the gates, they have powers when closed? i dont remember that. what do they do while closed? --Grimjaw 02:21, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * its wierd actually maya, ryuuzaki, and fu chien all had normal gates and could use them whenever. souichiro has to open the same gate fu chien has and such...actually souichiro had the rapid strike uber move or something that was the ultimate verison of the gate. it may be that closed u can do normal stuff, and opening it gives u some kind of uber move/"form of the gate". --Grimjaw 02:38, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

well i don't know. it would seem kinda out of character for sohaku to do anything for anyone else. later they seemed to indicate he cut her arm off cuz she refused to be dumped...but i totally don't get wtf is up with her scarred up eye. i imagine the eye does have somethign to do with her dragon but i don't get it myself. --Grimjaw 02:20, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * it wouldn't surprise me if it was a jutsu, but she still seems like she's on his nuts to me lol. i don't think we've even scratched the surface of what sohaku is capable of magic wise so who knows man, they may bust out some other crazy shit on us. --Grimjaw 02:55, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

i was actually just looking for a good tetsuhito image for an avatar for another site and noticed that. i have no idea wtf was going, on since it didn't really show anything hit him i assumed thats what was going on. but seeing as thats right when maya pops up ur probably right. take it out if u want, doesn't bother me. --Grimjaw 04:11, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks I'm new so I didn't know my bad I guess.--Cojin 22:08, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

mana made the analogy and such so i used it. he definately cares for mana tho, i don't think there is any doubt about that. but shin definately cares more for maya than a typical brother-sister relationship...i wanna at least keep that clear. the articles do seem to imply he doesn't really care for mana tho, and i don't think that is the case. if u wanna change it so it seems less like some kinda screwed up incest shit go ahead. --Grimjaw 19:43, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Futari Ecchi
Please familiarise yourself with the Manual of Style, and other guidelines and policies. We don't overuse bolding simply to make the names of characters stand out (and only terms with particular significance to the subject should be linked &mdash; not, for example, every year). --Mel Etitis ( Talk ) 15:25, 16 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Then I advise you to explain your edits in future, and to cite the specific WikiProject that goes against normal guidelines. The issue of overlinking is explained at the general MoS page on internal links; what is the point of linking the year in a a case like this?  What information does it supply that is relevant to the article? --Mel Etitis  ( Talk ) 20:23, 16 April 2007 (UTC)


 * If you'd explained what you were doing, at least in an edit summary, then most of this wouldn't have come up. Your complaint about me confuses politeness with something else; I was perfectly polite in responding to your making changes without explanation, then reverting to them with an incomplete and inadequate explanation, and finally pointing to an obscure WikiProject as if I should have known the details of every WikiProject all along.
 * An edit without sources or explanation should be reverted.  An edit without sources but with an explanation will probably be reverted, but the explanation might lead to discussion first.  An edit with sources but without an explanation is bad manners, but won't be reverted. (That pretty well matches the respective statuses of edit summaries and sources: the former is requested as a courtesy and a help to other editors, while the latter is demanded by policy.) --Mel Etitis  ( Talk ) 08:47, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

When there's no edit summary, nor any other explanation, and no sources given, how am I (or anyone) supposed to know that an edit is in good faith? Try to see it from the other person's point of view. (Oh, and you protest that you were archiving, not just blanking; you again didn't bother with the courtesy of an edit summary &mdash; again I was supposed to.. what? intuit? mind-read?) --Mel Etitis ( Talk ) 23:00, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

kabane
yo just a heads up, hirohiko (or whatever the kabane kid's name is) is gonna step up here in 104. he seems like he's pretty badass from the raw, but i can't figure out what exactly he is up to without the text...but i'm guessing i'm gonna try and give him an article when the translation comes out. it probably won't be a long one, but i think he and nokimi are about to become important enough. would u be down with me making articles for the two of them, even if they are relatively short? or do think i should wait it out? (btw i still don't know if kabane is a boy or girl for sure, but he really looks like a guy in this latest chapter...hopefully there will be a "he" or "she" or something in the translation i can used to determine it.) --Grimjaw 23:17, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
 * oh and while i'm thinkin about it, has hirohiko ever opened his eyes? do u think he might be blind or just like ichimaru gin from bleach? u see a bit of an eye in 104 and it seems to be glowing or something. did his ancestor open his eyes i don't remember? --Grimjaw 23:23, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

even as just a puppet i think she's mildly important right now. i'd definately add her to the minor characters section if she's gonna be added. the only objection i could have is the fact i question if we will ever see her again after this round. --Grimjaw 03:05, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Tenjho Tenge
But I explained there. - Access Timeco 16:24, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * By "there" I mean "my edit". The reason is explained on the field for... explanations. - Access Timeco 16:44, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

since i'm making hirohiko and nokimi, u have any objection to me making mitsuiro while i'm at it? mitsuiro has appeared about as much as hirohiko minus this new chapter. like i told access its a lot easier for me to write a stub of sorts and add stuff as we go than to write a whole long ass article at once, but i also don't wanna put something up thats a waste of internet space lol. so i'll let u decide if its worthy i guess. --Grimjaw 23:00, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
 * i've been progressively writing them offline, so they are pretty much all done. i'm gonna wait for at least a translation on mangatranslation to figure out wtf is going on with nokimi and hirohiko then i'll put up all three articles at once. btw, i found something that definately denotes hirohiko as a guy. when mitsuomi's in the wheel chair and mitsuiro is impersonating him, hirohiko says some shit about the resonance effect being used between him and mitsuiro. the editors note at the bottom says he used some word that is a distinctly male way to refer to oneself...so he's definately a dude. --Grimjaw 03:04, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

yeah i've read air gear. its actually not that good even tho it seems more people know of it than tenjho tenge. i read it when i get bored, its not something i'd go out of my way to read. but its not bad either...its satisfactorily mediocre lol. --Grimjaw 19:57, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Reply
The edits I looked at look legit. He was reverting date changes and weird formatting that could easily be subtle vandalism. You're right though, not having an edit summary doesn't necessarily mean the edit should be reverted. John Reaves (talk) 20:42, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't see any recent attempts to contact him in your contribs. Maybe you should try that again.  Provide some diffs that you believe are good edits that he reverted and ask him to explain them. John Reaves (talk) 21:21, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

RE: Rikudo
Hey Fizzman, I have a question about Japanese translation of a two family names. Both names were translated to English as Rikudou, but they use different kanji (The first is リク and the second is 六道). It this a mistake or is an example of the same name with different kanji. Thanks


 * Written Japanese uses 3 alphabets - Hiragana, katakana, and kanji. The first two are symbols representing phonetic consonants and kanji are symbols derived from chinese characters.  Because any kanji character can have literally DOZENS of pronunciations, Japanese names written in kanji is VERY difficult to read (even for native Japanese); to get around this problem, many uncommon pronounciations of names will often be accompanied by their hiragana or katakana equivalents.

リクドウ　is the katakana equivalent of the kanji form of 六道. Incidentally, the kanji symbols are actually Rokudou, but since it's used in a name, I'm guessing it's pronounced Rikudou. Japanese names written in kanji are next to impossible to figure out sometimes! Hope I helped... --fizzman 21:44, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

P. S.　Oh yeah, 六道 means "6 paths", or "6 roads". This was fun, thanks.

Re: Polygyny versus Polygamy
Thanks, I've learned a new word... --fizzman 19:23, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Neon Genesis Evangelion article reviews
Thanks for putting the NGE articles through the review process; I'm trying to bring them all up to speed. I'm happy most of them were already "B" level or something (and not so bad that they were deleted out of hand :) ) ---> I will be rewriting "Neon Genesis Evangelion timeline" extensively in a few hours though so you might want to hold off on that.  Well anyway, thanks for putting it through and taking the time, and I hope you get through all of the List of Neon Genesis Evangelion episodes's episode guide articles I wrote up just now.  --Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici 00:00, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

tenjho tenge
yeah man i just graduated college so i'm in the job search process and so forth. i don't have as much free time now so i'll probably be on sparatically at best. --Grimjaw 06:12, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

List of Kodocha characters
Hi there, I see your point. I've replaced the categories with the 'Anime and manga characters by series' category. The article didn't have cats yet, so I applied those that were applicable, but indeed the other lists are sticking to one cat, so let's keep this article in line. Thanks for explaining! Ninja neko 15:51, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Policy
"Assume good faith" is a guideline, and in any case doesn't mean that edits should be accepted without sources (it relates to criticism and tone) &mdash; it's "assume good faith", not "assume accuracy". The need to give sources, on the other hand, is a policy. --Mel Etitis ( Talk ) 15:15, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Marmalade Boy character headings
Thanks for referring me to WP:Manga. I think however that you're misreading it, as if you look at the guidelines re. the other sections (lead, plot), all of these refer to an anime/manga article in and of itself. If you look at the 4th bullet under Characters, that states: "If the character section grows long, please reconsider the amount of detail or number of characters included. Beyond that, a separate page, named List of characters in (series), may be appropriate." This is the case now for the MB characters, so having subsections for each character as the descriptions for most are not brief and have the potential to grow, is appropriate. -- Broken Sphere 15:25, 29 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Both of us could find examples of anime character pages where subheaders are and aren't used for the characters. The space thing as you may have noticed, is not really an issue for me because I'm used to large article space being taken up by character TOCs (e.g. Naruto).  That being said, the previous arrangement that I had, using TOCright, will move the TOC to the right of the page so that it merges with the article space (necessitating shifting images to the left to accomodate it).  I would also argue ease of navigation for a series like MB where there are a lot of characters and having them with their respective headings is more feasible.


 * Other possible solutions to how the characters are presented, which would list them all yet still not take up as much vertical space could be use of a table that lists them horizontally, or a template. -- Broken Sphere  16:14, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Question on Article structure
As you can see it says "character sections". This means that a section called ==Characters== should not be excessively broken up into subsections. If a section containing only character names is long then it needs to be reduced to something more suitable like ===Main characters=== and ===Minor characters=== or anything specific to the manga/anime. A List of characters from xxx article does not have a section called ==Characters== so this does not apply to that. It may have the ==Main characters== and ==Minor characters==, it may just list all of the characters who have one section for itself or a combination. This is common sense on a List of characters from xxx article. Someone navigating to a characters article may be looking for a specific character and the TOC should help them navigate. In a main article you would not expect someone looking at the article as a whole to need to use the TOC to find a specific character because that is what the ==Characters== section is for.

The sections on List of Marmalade Boy Characters looks pretty good to me except the capitalization of "characters". All instances of Characters on that page should be in lowercase "characters" as per WP:NC 1.1 - this includes the title of the article which should be moved to List of Marmalade Boy characters --Squilibob 05:27, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Answer RE: Interested in getting Suzuka Upgraded to Good Article Status?
Am I interested? Hell yes!! So what can I do to help? Let me know, I'll get right on it! --fizzman 23:05, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

plot summary deletion
and thats y i hate wiki...they delete shit just to delete it. its not hurting anything, it provides info u can't find elsewhere and lets face it a short summary doesn't do the series justice. the nazi's here kill it for me...like the guy who told me i need a citation to say a cat is an animal (no really i was actually told that word for word). neway not ur problem i'm just sayin, this is why i disappeared for a long time way back. --Grimjaw 05:46, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Suzuka
I'll be happy to help on Suzuka. It doesn't seem to need a Reception section because of how you've integrated the way that Suzuka has been received into other parts of the article already. I had been checking this article every few days recently, I didn't realize that you had done a deal more in your sandbox, the extra references will be handy. --Squilibob 05:01, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Re: Sazuka
I've attempted to clean up the lead a bit, which was too wordy and didn't flow very well. I do think the description of the story in the lead needs more expansion. It's a little too basic and doesn't capture the fact that it is a romantic drama based around track and field. Unfortunately, we can't directly call it a "romantic drama" or a "romantic comedy"—I would dispute the latter—without finding a reliable source. --Farix (Talk) 02:29, 28 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I'd rather avoid spoilers if I can since I'm following the manga (read up to chapter 40). However, my comment wasn't directed at the plot section but at the lead. I just don't think it fully describes the plot of the series. --Farix (Talk) 03:19, 28 July 2007 (UTC)