User talk:Duane Phillips

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I am still new to making wiki contributions. How does an article get upgraded out of "start class"? At the time I first started the HM-15 article, the start class was assigned when it was only one paragraph long... I was still in the middle of editing it. Now I know it deserves to be moved up at least one class, but it seems more people are adding yet more start-class wiki links to it. Also, of the four items in the "Other Training and Notables" section of the same article, I know for a fact that three will have no references possible, unless either myself of one of ten other individuals on the planet get it published somewhere, as these three items were due directly from this tight-knit group. The fourth (Aircrew Trainer) should be a matter of record... but I just cannot seem to find any references externally for it. Does this mean that in the long run, these will be candidate for removal? They are significant and notable events, especially in within Naval Squadron life, but military history usually focuses on weapon systems and tasking rather than internal innovation and changes. For example, I have also noticed the whole article has been down-toned from the fact that this is a first time merge of USN/USNR squadrons... an extremely significant milestone. It remains both a USN and a USNR squadron.--Duane Phillips 20:21, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't understand what you mean by "start class" so I'll let a more experienced editor answer that part of the question. However, I can give some advice on the sources.  If there is information added that has not been published by a reputable third source, even if it's notable/important/whatever, can't be added to Wikipedia.  Unfortunately, Wikipedia isn't governed by truth as much as by sourcing, since its goal is to report what other people have already published.  If there's a way to incorporate that information elsewhere, then do so, but unfortunately policy dictates that information needs to be coming from a third-party source.  Unfortunate that this policy will prevent good information from being added, but that's the way it works.  I'll let someone else take the other part of your question, though.  Happy editing! —  Keakealani · ? · ! · @   20:28, 16 January 2007 (UTC)


 * You can change to the rating by editing the article's Talk page. You'll see "start" near the top of the page inside the code for the infobox. As noted on the talk page, here's the rating guide. Xiner (talk, email) 20:32, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

HM-15
Hello, just though I would say hi I am the person that has been making some changes to the HM-15 article over the past few days. It still needs a lot of work but its getting there. I work on alot of US Navy articles and lists and I'm also the creator and maintainer of the featured portal United States Navy. I wanted to answer your question and then tell you a couple of things that may help you in the future.

There are 6 different "classes" that can somewhat be explained here (WikiProject_Military_history/Assessment) The easy way to look at it is a Stub is an article that pretty much has nothing or very little information. Most articles are start class they have a couple of sections with 4 or 5 paragraphs each, an image or two, a few references, a decent lead, and maybe an infobox. It takes a lot to get one to a B-class. A B-class is the highest assessment another user can give an article without it being peer reviewed. that means you can assess an article I created B-class just like I could rate your's. Always get a B-class rating before you go for peer review, the easiest way to get a B-class when you think the article is ready is to ask one of us to review your article. I am always happy to do it and being well versed in Navy affairs and history I'm usually pretty objective. You can leave a message on my talk page and I'll review anything.

One thing to always remember, reference everything, every paragraph, every quote! And even though it seems a little cumbersome read through these articles you will learn alot that will come in handy.


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There are plenty more but these should really help you get started. I you ever have questions or need help don't hesitate to ask you can leave a message on my talk page User_talk:Wilsbadkarma anytime.&mdash; Wils Bad Karma  ( Talk / Contribs ) 21:08, 18 January 2007 (UTC)