User talk:Duggy 1138

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Heads up; congrats. ;) · AndonicO  Engage. 03:09, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow. That's amazing. I didn't understand it the first time around, but now I get it. lolz. --haha169 (talk) 18:17, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Trinity
Well I'm less concerned about spoilers and more concerned about how rapidly a 52 issue weekly series could get out of hand!! ;)

See Talk:Enigma (DC Comics) for my thoughts on how to deal with the character for now (as we want to avoid speculation after all). (Emperor (talk) 21:22, 8 June 2008 (UTC))


 * Yes that is going to be tricky - I'm hoping to catch this in the trades so would hope it becomes more self-policing - it should just need a bit of a shove at the start. (Emperor (talk) 21:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC))

List of comics spin-offs
Why did you erase this article?

Why is there still a link to it from spin-off and why haven't you deleted List of television spin-offs too? Mind you, I am not suggesting that you should erase this list too, but I want an answer to why the work made at List of comics spin-offs has been obliterated. John Anderson  (talk) 22:49, 6 July 2008 (UTC)


 * So, since when is bad article quality a reason for deletion? Wouldn't it be better to develop the article? The article was the same as that for television, so the same "problems" you mention has to apply to both. And if you delete a page, you delete the links to it too, that's basic. John Anderson   (talk) 07:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Mr Bean - Sitcom.
Hey, I'm not defending it. I just looked at a couple of "definitions" and it doesn't - as you say - fit none of the criteria. There are running characters, it is a narrative comedy.

It is not a traditional sitcom to my taste - but then neither is The League of Gentlemen and everyone seems happy with its status as a sitcom.

In the British tradition there have been sitcoms based more or less around one character who moves from place to place causing mayhem - the Worker, Some Mothers Do Have 'em - the "situation" if you like is the interaction between the mentally handicapped Bean and his environment.

I couldn't be bothered to add a citation but I see somebody else had.

Me, sore? Nah. I just don't like the way you revert and delete without engaging in dialogue. In this case you happily say Bean doesn't fit "the definition" without citing the definition you intended - by the wiki definition it fits, sort of.

In the end it is more a sitcom than a sketch show. But it's a piece of junk either way. Daisyabigael (talk) 19:54, 7 August 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.20.55.154 (talk) 19:52, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, yeah, and hmm. I agree, I agree - but... Just look at all these definitions:  it's all couched in "usuallys" and "commonly". Just look at Hancock! The situation often changed from week to week with little continuity in the classic sence. League of Gentlemen is a loosely linked collection of sketches that kinda come together (in later series) in a mad narrative.

I'm afraid that Bean looks more like a sitcom - narrative plot structure, recurring characters (there's his girlfriend too, as well as others), Bean interacts with the real world, it is extended beyond sketch length - than a sketch show.

But I'd rather it wasn't a sitcom, personally. I guess it was a series of one-off comedy play specials (rather in the tradition of "The Plank"). But once you put the fourteen together in syndication - it looks alot like a sitcom series - albeit a weird one.Daisyabigael (talk) 08:04, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I really don't want to get into another argument with you mate. Say what you like - and whether I agree with you or not (and mostly I do) - enough people think of it as being a sort of sitcom for it to be so - there are authorities to cite to say so. Live with it.

Your definition of sitcom is a generality not a golden law. Who says recurring characters have to be in every episode and "interact"? You do. That ain't a rule - it's an observation.

There have been other shows where a single character moves from situation to situation - A Sharp Intake of Breath, is another example - and although they don't resemble Friends or Dad's Army (and those two are more like each other than either are like Mr Bean), all the sources I have seen have listed them as sitcom. There are character based sitcoms without narrative - The Royale Family, for example.

Let's face it, definitions are there to be developed, stretched and tested. If enough guides say Mr Bean is a sitcom, know what? - it can be cited as a sitcom!

I think the problem is that there are only three types of comedy show - sketch, variety, and sitcom. Of these three, Mr Bean is most like sitcom because a continuing character moves through plot-like narratives.

I also find your detailed knowledge of the actual show kinda worrying! Daisyabigael (talk) 13:42, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I guess we're in 100% agreement now Duggy. That's scary isn't it?!

Genre definition is always tricky (but fun to argue about). Had a similar one about musicals - always singing and dancing? What about a classical music musical where there is neither? Do musical biographies count? South Park the Movie? and so on.

Bean is posiibly in a separate catagory of its own - or with very few others.

TV comedies turned into movies sounds a good list - there aren't that many that weren't originally sitcoms but a change of category would clean up things like Bean, League of Gentlemen etc.

Have a nice weekend! Daisyabigael (talk) 12:22, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Battlestar Galactica units of measure follow-up question
I'm working on a fanfic involving the BSG TOS universe, ran across your input on the Battlestar Galactica units article, and would like to follow up with you if possible, on the measurement systems and what you might invision, were the system to be retcon'd into something faithful to the spirit of the original, but actually workable. Please feel free to respond to this on my talk page. Thanks! Capedude2005 (talk) 04:23, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Highlander edits
Duggy, please be careful not to edit war at List of science fiction film and television series by lengths Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Also, discussion involves more than just a statement on the talk page followed by another revert. (In other words, discussion cannot conclude if it has not even begun.) You have now reverted four times, against the original poster and two other editors; that puts you clearly in violation of the three-revert rule. --Ckatz chat spy  06:36, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I made an uncommented change (not good form), someone changed it back and I reverted with explanation. Now if a contributor wants to change it back and have a discussion, that's fine, but you've reverted it and demanded a discussion that you're not interested in participating in. That just doesn't make sense. The last time I didn't revert, I commented out the entry, leaving it there for future readdition, but removing it for accuracy. If you're in this as an Admin you should be there to solve an edit war, not cause one which is what you seem to be doing. If you're in this as a contribution, then join the discussion don't just demand one. Duggy 1138 (talk) 07:04, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for discussing, rather than reverting again. My take on this is that one editor (the IP) added the material, and another felt it warranted inclusion after you removed it. That being the case, it should remain in while a discussion is under way. What you should have done is to then discuss it before reverting twice more. As mentioned on the talk page, I've placed a request for commehnt on the issue to resolve it. Thanks again. --Ckatz chat spy  07:17, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I took it as someone added it, I removed it without saying way (stupid move) and someone reverted it as vandalism. Without a follow-up but a contributor, it's impossible to say whether it is support of the Highlander entry or a mistaken belief that I was being a vandal. Duggy 1138 (talk) 07:21, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair enough; that is why comments are so important, especially given the amount of actual vandalism on the site. --Ckatz chat spy  07:24, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've fallen out of practise doing it, which isn't a good thing. Let this be a lesson to me.
 * Duggy 1138 (talk) 07:26, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, when one is reverting vandalism all day long, sometimes WP:AGF gets strained a bit as well. Kudos for stopping to discuss the matter as per the above; frankly, I much prefer resolving issues this way, even if it takes more time. Let's see what comes out of the RfC; I have heard the series described as sci-fi, and as not being sci-fi, so it is hard to make a call. --Ckatz chat spy  07:38, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

I did "Science Fiction, Fantasy & Popular Culture" at University and we spent an entire lecture discussing the Definitions of science fiction and another discussing the definition of Fantasy. I also got into the discussion during a "Literature in Translation" lecture. It's not a clean-cut definition, unfortunately. People draw the line in different places. Since Highlander 2 puts a SF spin on everything it could be argued that although it looks like Fantasy it's actually got a hidden SF backstory... but then Highlander 2 is generally ignored by everything else. Fortunately whoever suggested Buffy didn't add it as it's mostly Fantasy/Supernatural but it has side elements of SF. The X-Files is half-and-half with the original premise (Aliens) being SF and them *trying* to explain most of the Supernatural scientifically, so I'm not too worried about that one. Is/isn't SF can be a big, messy argument. Duggy 1138 (talk) 07:49, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed it can. Sounds like an interesting course, though! Well, thanks for your patience - you may have seen the response from WP Highlander on the talk page. I've rewound the page to your original edit. Cheers! --Ckatz chat spy  10:04, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, we got a result and a quick one which is good. Thanks for your patience. Duggy 1138 (talk) 10:10, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

List of comic publications
Best bet is to move the "current" articles and then merge in the longer lists from the articles - we'll want the "current" lists to redirect to the publications list anyway so we might as well do it the easy way. It'll also preserve all the history, even if we are largely over-writing the article.

We should be able to get something passable together pretty quickly as actual lists and then work towards converting them to tables (I wonder if find and replace can be used to do a quick and dirty changeover). Either way we should be able to a fairly smooth and staged transition - I have worked on all those titles lists and they are pretty solid so removing the columns and other formatting will give us a good workable list which can then be converted. It might take longer to get a fully rounded set of articles (with dates, etc. added in) but it should be useful at the various stages. (Emperor (talk) 01:21, 31 October 2008 (UTC))

List of Dark Horse publications
You're welcome. I'm always happy to help out where I can :) Stephen Day (talk) 02:17, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Star Wars Comics
Yep that kind of thing has been giving me The Fear for a while. The only upside is that they have got their house in order (partly) as at one point every issue of Star Wars Tales had their own article and they have subsequently been merged into the trades (and has since been merged back to the main article) but those trade articles were inadequate. Just listing the credits and a snippet of plot does not make for a good article - that is why we link to things like the databases (which are designed to for that kind of thing) and places like Wookiepedia (which is where you might expect such articles). The merged main article is poor but at least it is somewhere to start. (Emperor (talk) 14:39, 31 October 2008 (UTC))

I think once we get a decent article together looking at the actual comics we will get a better idea of what there actually is and how solid they are as well as the best way to deal with them (merging, sketching out an article that meets standard, etc.), (Emperor (talk) 14:39, 31 October 2008 (UTC))


 * I'm a fan too but it looks like fannishness gone wild. If you look over the Star Trek and Transformers articles they, at least aim to come up to some kind of standard but the others seem to have gone rogue and made up their own standards. The main problem is the weight of numbers, we need a clear idea of the scope of the problem which means crafting a decent opening article. we can start from scratch with Star Wars but it might take more work with Buffy. Once we can see things a bit more clearly we can work to impose some kind of order on everything. (Emperor (talk) 23:54, 31 October 2008 (UTC))


 * Perhaps steady focus over time will help - I have tended to leave them to the franchises fans but that has probably not been the best approach. I'm going to check through the Star Trek articles and make sure they have infoboxes and basic references, which might give me a better idea about the Star Trek ones.


 * Do you fancy sandboxing a Star Wars comics main article? I'll be looking around for interviews and other information and might as well drop it in somewhere. (Emperor (talk) 00:13, 1 November 2008 (UTC))


 * No problem. There is no great rush. (Emperor (talk) 00:41, 1 November 2008 (UTC))

List of Showcase Presents
What's the reasoning behind the creation of a separate list from the article? Not only "lists of" are unencyclopedic in general but Marvel Essential, Marvel Masterworks and Marvel Omnibus aren't organised like that. DC Archives are but I always thought it was a mistake, having to hop to a second article to find out. Without a solid reason I'd rather we simplify by doing without the "list of" --Leocomix (talk) 12:47, 2 November 2008 (UTC) Ok I read it and unless there is more than what is on that page I think you misunderstood the intent of the discussion which was about list of current publications which are not updated. Showcase Presents is a collection name. As a collection the volumes are regularly kept in print as opposed to monthly comic books and most other collections. I also regularly update those because it's easy to keep track of, there are sites dedicated to that type of collections which are popular since they reprint "classics". As a suggestion, I'd say that you leave alone or restore as one article the collections Showcase Presents, DC Archives, Marvel Essential, Marvel Omnibus, Marvel Masterworks. --Leocomix (talk) 15:47, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

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List of Showcase Presents publications
I've de-proded it because I think it should stay, obviously, however, I am interested to know what "indiscriminate list" means. Duggy 1138 (talk) 12:50, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Basically it refers to a list that WP:LC or WP:INDISCRIMINATE applies to. I'll probably AFD it later. Stifle (talk) 12:52, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Television pilot
Why did you remove the entry for Richie Brockelman, Private Eye in the Television pilot article? | Loadmaster (talk) 15:34, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

AfD
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Correction
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Re: Spooks - Death of "Lucas North"
Hi Duggy,

I will look into this source and verify how reliable it is. I will try to get back to you within a few days. If you want an immediate response from me regarding this issue, then; I agree with you. I think if Ricahrd Armatige says what he says, then I think we can take it as that.

Regards, SilvestertheCat (talk) 12:18, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

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Nightmare
The section needs to be expanded (ala Friday the 13th (franchise) or Halloween (franchise). The info is probably on the other pages, but hasn't been moved there. The simple fact that someone has not expanded the section doesn't mean that it should be completely deleted until it is full fleshed out.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  22:31, 31 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't think it "damages" the page. That's a bit extreme don't you think? The page is hardly a model for anything, so it isn't damaging anything. It needs to be expanded and probably rewritten to be in present tense as opposed to future tense. Again, none of that is reason to just delete it entirely simply because you don't want to look at it in its current format, as opposed to expanding it yourself.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  02:14, 1 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I am improving it...at my own pace. I don't need people blanking sections though because I'm not working to their speed. I rewrote Friday the 13th (franchise) and Halloween (franchise) at my pace, frankly because I have a real life where I work 40+ hours a week. I'll continue to work this article at my pace. I've put a bit more info in the section for the time being.   BIGNOLE     (Contact me)  02:29, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit summaries
Hi Duggy, thanks for your edits to Gothic Fiction. Edit summariese are super helpful to other editors in allowing us to follow what's gone on and why. Cheers Span (talk) 03:15, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Bloodmaster Scarlet
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