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DYK for List of French generals who died during the First World War
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DYK for Ye Olde White Harte
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The Bugle: Issue 201, January 2023
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DYK for 9 January 1917 German Crown Council meeting
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Thank you, - it's also featured on Portal:Germany! - Thank you also for DYK reviewing! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:12, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks Gerda, wishing you happy new year. Got a couple more First World War German articles coming up (Supreme War Command and Lone gunner of Flesquières) but been a bit distrcted by other things also! - Dumelow (talk) 16:22, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Happy, yes, I'm on vacation, - click on songs! I tell my own stories now, instead of relying on DYK. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:33, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm back - Melitta Muszely died, RIP - the other story is 10 years old OTD ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:37, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Ptolemaic elephant hunting
Sounds very interesting! I look forward to it. BorgQueen (talk) 15:01, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it is. But the sources are long and I lost enthusiasm a year ago. With a bit of luck your interest might spur me on.  Good to see you around, I remember having lots of discussions ITN way back! - Dumelow (talk) 15:17, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes well, so do I. Wikipedia was a very different place back then, in certain ways. Getting used to the new DYK process has been... suspenseful. Lol. BorgQueen (talk) 15:21, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, a lot more process and procedure now. Looking back at some of my earlier articles and remembering when DYK had three or four hastily-arranged sets a day it's probably best we've progressed in some regards.  Feels a bit quieter around the encyclopaedia somehow but there's still a lot of people doing a lot of good work - Dumelow (talk) 15:32, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Time
Hey I wondered if you might have time to help me with this article A Jewish Wedding. I want to submit at DYK and will add you as a contributor. I have a QPQ ready as well. It is the same painter who did Passing Mother's Grave. I have found his painting interesting and I hope you have too. FYI you got me started at DYK when you nominated and completed Gallos (sculpture). Thanks! Bruxton (talk) 01:32, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi Bruxton, sure thing. I'll see what I can dig out, though looks like you already have a decent article there.  I do enjoy writing about statues, sometimes as a break from other subjects, though I'm currently on a bit of a theme of historic British pubs... - Dumelow (talk) 07:07, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Hmm, wasn't able to add much. Don't worry about the credit, but I'll keep an eye out for it on the noms page.  If you're creating more articles on Israëls' works you might consider creating a nav box (like Template:James Ensor) to tie them all together - Dumelow (talk) 07:56, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I will dig a hook out of that article. I was doing the same. Architects and buildings, sculptures, paintings BLPs etc. I like to cover related topics. For a while it was NRHPs in Tennessee. Bruxton (talk) 14:15, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Supreme War Command
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DYK for List of generals of the British Empire who died during the First World War
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DYK for Lone gunner of Flesquières
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DYK for HMS Stephen Furness
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DYK for Dotation
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DYK for Loddon Bridge disaster
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DYK for Gerald Marescaux
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DYK for Capture of Wejh
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DYK for New Beehive Inn
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DYK for Leonard Parrington
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DYK for Three Tuns, Alcester
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Women in Red in February 2023
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Macandrew
I've had a go at writing Henry Macandrew, he-from-the-list-of-dead-generals. I don't know if you happened to come across any good details from his early career while researching? I'm a bit sparse at that end of his career! Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 01:24, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Wow, that's a good length article! Great work.  I'm a bit busy this week but will try to take a look at the weekend.  Cheers - Dumelow (talk) 09:04, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I'm debating putting it up for GA as a kind of final hurrah, so any input would be greatly appreciated. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 17:42, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Alas, I didn't find anything you didn't already have. I added a couple of snippets about his family which you can feel free to remove if you think they are too tangential.  I was sad to see your (semi) retirement notice, though it sounds like good news really; all the best in the new job and in your studies!  Take your own time, but I also hope you'll be able to continue here in some form.  All the best - Dumelow (talk) 07:19, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Those are really useful additions, much appreciated! As I said on my talk, I hope I won't be gone completely, but my output will probably decrease significantly. I have no doubt you will keep up the flow of new articles! Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 11:20, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

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DYK for Sailors and Soldiers (Gifts for Land Settlement) Act 1916
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DYK for Phil Fletcher
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DYK for James Kirkham Ramsbottom
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The Bugle: Issue 202, February 2023
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DYK for Virginia Quay Settlers Monument
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DYK for Henri Hekking
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 * I feel really stupid... Oltrepier (talk) 13:54, 14 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi Oltrepier, no need to feel stupid - you've done nothing wrong! I think I was a bit grumpy in my earlier responses and can only offer my apologies for this.  You've done a really thorough review of the article and thankyou for your work on it (I've made a fuller reply at the DYK nomination) - Dumelow (talk) 14:55, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
 * No worries, thank you for the support! : ) Oltrepier (talk) 15:09, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Bennerley Viaduct
Hey Dumelow, if you get a minute would you mind casting an eye over that article, particularly the description section? The article is a work in progress but if anything jumps out at you from an engineering perspective I'd love to hear about it. Best, HJ Mitchell &#124; Penny for your thoughts? 22:03, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi HJ Mitchell. Although I'm not a million miles away I must admit to never having visited the structure, though I might pop over if I get a chance. I've had a go at rewriting the first paragraph of the description which I think didn't quite convey the pier structure correctly (each has 12 columns, not 10 I think?; the tapering of the columns wasn't really described; photos I've looked at show the bases are brick over stone not vice versa etc.). My version is quite a bit longer, but some can be chopped back if overly technical; could do with a check for readability also. Usual caveat that my field is highways rather than structures or railways - Dumelow (talk) 11:54, 16 February 2023 (UTC)


 * I really appreciate you looking at this! I like bridges but I'm out of my depth with some of the technical language. Your draft is amazing. The only bit that lost me was raking column offset transversely to the outside. Do you think the Friends of Bennerley Viaduct site would stand up to scrutiny at FAC? They clearly know what they're talking about and I might be able to slip it through as a primary source based on the bridge itself but I'm not sure it would pass muster as a "high-quality reliable source". Best, HJ Mitchell &#124; Penny for your thoughts? 21:35, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
 * By the way, it's well worth a visit if you're ever in the area. There's not much else to see nearby, it's in the middle of nowhere, but I was in Nottingham a few weeks ago for the first time since it opened to the public and couldn't resist. It's quite something in such a wide open landscape. HJ Mitchell &#124; Penny for your thoughts? 21:58, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
 * HJ Mitchell: Hmm, good point on the Friends source. I was a bit lazy in assigning the whole to the two sources. I've split it down a bit below (I brought in the HE page where I can) and tried to minimise the Friends one; will look to replace it if I can.  I have a feeling the 1877 article on the bridge (as "Ilkeston Viaduct") in The Engineer will help as it contains the original drawings, don't think I have access to it - Dumelow (talk) 22:45, 17 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Never mind, it's on Google Books (and the drawings from it are on Commons). Will have a look now. I'll try to clear up the wording on that bit about the raking columns too - Dumelow (talk) 22:51, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
 * HJ Mitchell: I've managed to get it down to one use of the Friends - the bit about the grade, up to you if you leave it in our take it out. You might want to add in the design section that it was reportedly modelled on the Viaduc de Busseau from page 76 of the Rail Engineer article. Pages 78-80 include a bit more on the closure of the line and subsequent renovation.  I'll have a think about how I can reword the raking columns bit.  It might be helpful to include some extracts from the plans in the description section if you can spare the space, the elevation of the piers are quite informative, I think, as it's not exactly clear what's going on from the photos. - Dumelow (talk) 23:32, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Forgot to include the Google Books link for The Engineer article it's here, though do amend the referencing to whichever style you prefer - Dumelow (talk) 23:37, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I've had a go at amending the description of the raking columns but our coverage of structural concepts is quite poor so there's not much I can link to to assist the reader. If needed it can be trimmed right back and we can just say the piers are arranged with four groups of three columns and leave the pictures to show the arrangement - Dumelow (talk) 10:42, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
 * That's amazing! I would never have thought to check Google Books for a 150-year-old edition of a magazine! I really appreciate your help with this, not just for making the article better but for helping me understand some of the engineering better! HJ Mitchell &#124; Penny for your thoughts? 18:55, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

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The bridge deck consists of 16 spans each 77 ft long and formed from three 8 ft deep wrought iron Warren lattice truss girders braced together horizontally and vertically. The trusses support a series of transverse iron troughs at 2 ft centres onto which ballast was placed to form the railway's track bed  Because of the corrugated surface provided by the troughs the volume of ballast required was half that of a traditional flat-decked bridge. The use of the troughs and ballast instead of wooden longitudinal waybeams beneath the rails allowed for settlement of the structure to be rectified by repacking of the ballast. The bridge deck is enclosed by low wrought iron latticework parapets.

The spans are supported on 15 evenly-spaced piers. The ironwork of each pier is the same height - 56 ft - and supported on bases of blue brick and stone ashlars of varying heights above a concrete foundation. The structure provides a constant 1:100 gradient with the Awsworth end 15 ft higher than the Ilkeston end. The piers are formed of 12 wrought iron tubular columns each constructed from four quadrant pieces rivetted together. The tubes are arranged in four groups of three. The centre-most two groups consist of a central vertical column with a slightly inclined column either side of it longitudinally; in the two outermost groups the central columns are offset transversely as raking columns to provide lateral support. The tube groups are braced together horizontally and vertically at four stages. Each group of columns sits on a cast iron baseplate bedded onto the base with cement, no holding down bolts were used.

The viaduct is 1,421 feet (433 metres) (over a quarter of a mile) long, 60 feet (18 metres) above the valley floor in the centre, and 26 feet (7.9 metres) wide between the parapets. Both ends of the viaduct are supported on brick piers.[1][2]

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February songs
Thank you for the interesting translation question! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:28, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * No worries. He turned out to be a very interesting chap.  Hopefully release the article on him today - Dumelow (talk) 14:39, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * that's good! - today the regional festival - DYK of 13 years ago ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:01, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
 * My story on 24 February is about Artemy Vedel (TFA by Amitchell235), and I made a suggestion for more peace, - what do you think? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:07, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
 * today: two women whose birthday we celebrate today, 99 and 90! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:25, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Tonan Maru No. 3
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DYK for Servants' Characters Act 1792
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DYK for Highfield Cocoa and Coffee House
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Women in Red March 2023
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DYK for SS Tembien
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DYK for Charles Norris-Newman
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DYK for Doman (Khoikhoi)
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WP:OTD
Hi Dumelow, is there anywhere I can mention the articles I've checked for OTD so we don't duplicate efforts? I could just leave a note here, if that works best. Eddie891 Talk Work 15:14, 8 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi Eddie891, that's a great idea and thanks so much for helping out here. I've created a section at Wikipedia_talk:Selected_anniversaries where we can strike through the date once its been checked. I'm hoping to get chance later to look at 11 March.  If we are able to do a check each every other day or so it might give us chance to rotate the items or highlight significant anniversaries.  All the best - Dumelow (talk) 15:23, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

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DYK for Hubert Conway Rees
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The Bugle: Issue 203, March 2023
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DYK for Ilford Park Polish Home
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DYK for Paper House
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DYK for Newent Onion Fayre
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Erm...
For a moment, I wondered what Cumbia was. BorgQueen (talk) 17:49, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Doh, thanks BorgQueen! - Dumelow (talk) 20:04, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Vladimir Putin
Per this and this - Dumelow (talk) 20:50, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

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DYK for Marlborough House set
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DYK for John Cecil Russell
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Your GA nomination of HMS Cicala
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DYK for 2019 renaming of South African National Defence Force reserve units
Aoidh (talk) 12:03, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

too late for Zimbardo birthday to be included for OTD 3/23/23?
I just discovered you are the person I should have been messaging re: my Selected Anniversary Q. Does Philip_Zimbardo’s 90th birthday (born 3/23/33) merit his inclusion in birthdays? Is it too late? DrMel (talk) 19:05, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi DrMel. More than happy to look at late ideas, especially for significant anniversaries. Unfortunately the Selected anniversaries guidelines don't allow articles with orange cleanup tags so that'd have to be resolved - Dumelow (talk) 19:57, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Carlisle Turkish baths
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DYK for Bapaume town hall explosion
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DYK for Henri Hekking
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A barnstar for you!
Thanks JennyOz, yes good to get things in hand. I am grateful for User:Eddie891's help here, it would be too much to do alone. As it is, an extra pair of hands or two would be welcomed to help share the load a bit, if you know anybody who would be interested. All the best - Dumelow (talk) 12:33, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Hard Rock (exercise)
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Women in Red April 2023
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Mainpage
I know that if people change things they are unlikely to change things back, so this attempt is in vain, but I do wanna give my 2 cents. You reverted a global (created earlier by 1000s of people, not by a US president in 2014) while you added back a day only relevant for a few US states. How it's standing on Wikipedia is not a reason to revert it right? Global (here, here, here) vs a few US states.

Was super proud of my well thought of edit, but ok. I get your point: you are right the wikipedia page of World Backup Day is not that old or well written or big. SarahBx (talk) 06:43, 31 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi SarahBx, thanks for the message. I am looking to widen participation in the On This Day section, which has lain stagnant for a while due to lack of interest; I am also looking to widen the events featured to be less European/North American centred.  If you are able I would welcome you looking for any other upcoming events and suggesting them at the individual day pages.  In my opinion the World Backup Day article is not yet ready for a main page appearance.  It is only 887 characters long which is well under the usual standard for categorisation as a Stub.  The criteria for an OTD appearance are listed at Selected anniversaries and include that the article "must not be a stub and must be a relatively complete and well-formatted article" - Dumelow (talk) 06:50, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * While I still don't really agree with the change (As I see it a bit black and white, the day I put in is 10x more relevant to the world then the day you changed it back to) I get the technical reasoning as the page needs to be improved. I would personally try to make the frontpage (And wikipedia in general) most relevant and then even without a link to the page/stub.
 * Also look at it from a beginner standpoint on Wikipedia: being reverted (a few times) even while in good faith is a bit of a setback. I'll try to focus on more days though as I do want to help, and a setback is also needed of course as I need to learn.
 * Thanks for your time and your feedback, your work and your feedback is much appreciated. SarahBx (talk) 07:04, 31 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi SarahBx, I appreciate Wikipedia is a bit daunting as a newcomer. Please don't be discouraged, we are all here to build the encyclopaedia even if we appear at times bureaucratic.  You've done good work in creating the World Backup Day article and editing elsewhere.  I've been around for a while now so if you have any questions on editing please do feel free to drop me a message here.  All the best - Dumelow (talk) 07:11, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry to bother you again, but I wanted to add April Fools Day to tomorrow, however that page seems to be protected: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Selected_anniversaries/April_1&action=edit
 * I saw old reasoning behind April Fools not being on the frontpage on a talk page (that the page wasn't ready, but I think that matter is solved now, as the april fools page looks quite good and with many words) SarahBx (talk) 07:22, 31 March 2023 (UTC)


 * There's a bit of work to be done on adding citations (see the "citation needed" tags), but I think it is just about acceptable as it is and maybe it'll get some attention tomorrow. I've readded it to the template - Dumelow (talk) 07:48, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:11, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

OTD tense
Hi Dumelow, thanks for all the work you've been putting into maintaining OTD. Just a gentle reminder (having copyedited recent sets) that any new items you add have to be phrased in past tense – the effect of this is to subtly distinguish past anniversaries from ITN current events. — <span style="font-family:'Linux Libertine','Georgia','Times',serif"> RAVEN PVFF   · talk  · 20:42, 4 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks 'Ravenpuff, I've caught myself a few times but some must have slipped through. I blame my time writing blurbs at ITN.  Will try harder! - Dumelow (talk) 20:58, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

On this day: MLK assassinated...
On this day: MLK assassinated... &sect; Lingzhi.Renascence (talk) 22:49, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I did look at Assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. for OTD, I think, but it's missing a good few citations (which I've now tagged). Happy to look again next year if it's in better shape - Dumelow (talk) 06:24, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Ha ha, challenge accepted. Consider it done (...slowly...) &sect; Lingzhi.Renascence (talk) 06:28, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Poison Book Project
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A barnstar for you!

 * Thankyou Compassionate727, it was good fun to write! - Dumelow (talk) 06:24, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 204, April 2023
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"Currently"
I think this wording is more precise. What do you think? BorgQueen (talk) 06:29, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Yep, that's better. Thanks - Dumelow (talk) 06:34, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Lunar Hilton
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FYI
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DYK for Alterlaa
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Always precious
Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. - Thank you for constantly supplying interesting things to know, and for checking the OTD items. This year, I'd like to introduce a few more cantatas that Bach composed 300 years ago, in his first year in Leipzig. No rush, he began end of May ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:43, 20 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks Gerda, how time flies! Oh, yes please do add some more musical items to the OTD eligible lists, I am always pleasantly surprised to see some cultural options on there as alternatives to wars and disasters! - Dumelow (talk) 08:00, 20 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks to your encouragement I added Bach assuming the post of Thomaskantor with the first new cantata of his first Leipzig cycle on 30 May 1723, - please check. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:05, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Hmm, looks like it got reverted for lack of significance; I don't have the knowledge to comment on the significance of the appointment but perhaps a case can be made? I have seen quite a few premieres of individual works by composers on OTD lists, so perhaps they have a better chance of survival?  - Dumelow (talk) 11:17, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
 * The discussion is on my talk, perhaps read, and chime in or not. In a nutshell: there are hundreds of possible premieres but only once entering the position he and his 18 successors are known for. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:51, 24 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks Bruxton, I've been tied up trying to reinvigorate WP:OTD recently but managed to squeeze in some coronation articles as they are really interesting. Thanks also for all your hard work making up the preps, I know that's not easy - Dumelow (talk) 08:24, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry that I haven't been as on top as I was on OTD-- I've gotten really busy in the past few weeks. Will try to be more present this week, and maybe polish off April soon. Eddie891 Talk Work 22:20, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi Eddie891, no problem. I'll be on a break all next week so I'm trying to get far enough ahead to cover that and give me a bit of slack for when I get back. Really glad for what you are able to do.  Appreciate at the moment I am leaving all of the B&Ds to you, if you wanted a change and to look at blurb events please do feel free to dive in and don't feel like you are stepping on my toes.  Likewise if you are happy sticking to B&Ds no worries, just don't want  it to feel like a grind - Dumelow (talk) 11:20, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

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Wee barnstar
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DYK for Millennium Complex
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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:22, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Barnstar for you
I have to say, that the OTD section of WP:ERRORS has been very quiet since you've taken over the responsibility for the OTD section, and your work has not gone unnoticed. Good job! -- Jayron <b style="color:#090">32</b> 13:25, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks Jayron32, it's really time consuming but I think worthwhile. It'd be great if we could expand participation in this area as it is a bit repetitive, though it is fun coming across some really great articles I've never read before.  I'm currently away but should be back into it next week (I've scheduled up to 12 May in advance)  - Dumelow (talk) 07:24, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Robe of State
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The Bugle: Issue 205, May 2023
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The Bugle: Issue 205, May 2023
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Your creation of Alterlaa
Dumelow, I want to thank you for starting an article on the Wohnpark Alterlaa complex after my previous attempt to do the same in 2019 had failed, being sent to the Draftspace and then just deleted a short while later. Since then, I had been afraid of trying to create the article again for a repeat of this incident. I had been planning to insert some translated sections from its German-language counterpart article later to avoid the deletion, but never had time to do so after my attempt was moved to Draftspace. Jim856796 (talk) 18:17, 16 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi Jim856796, thanks for the message. Sorry to hear an earlier version got deleted, it's a shame as our coverage of locations outside the Anglosphere is not that great.  I saw a photo of one of the Alterlaa apartment blocks somewhere, thought it looked cool and was disappointed we didn't have an article on it!  I'd like to find more sources for the article, if possible, but exhausted pretty much everything I could find online in English, potentially more might be available in German - Dumelow (talk) 06:10, 17 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi Dumelow and, just noticed this discussion and it reminded me that when the article was at DYK I was trying to further understand the complex in context and that I'd kept a note to "get back to one day". When I added links at List of tallest buildings in Austria I wondered how many buildings/blocks there were in the complex/site. I found some info but couldn't decide if RS, or whether to maybe just add to further reading or external links.
 * Two sites I found which both have good info - and great photos and diagrams, though presumably copyright of course - both in English are here and here. Leaving them with you... JennyOz (talk) 11:21, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

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Selected anniversaries/May 26
Hi Dumelow, regarding the rotation for Selected anniversaries/May 26: could we reinstate Jimmie Rodgers? I made the change in March of this year to include him and his picture on occasion of the 90th anniversary of his death on May 26, 2023. I don't dispute for a second the inclusion of Edmund I's assassination, but I do see fit in this case to feature Rodgers being that it is a relevant anniversary for a relevant figure in music history. Thanks for your time.-- <b style="color:#E62020">GD</b><b style="color:#273BE2">uwen</b> <b style="background:#318CE7; padding:2px; color:cyan"> Holler! </b> 18:10, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi GDuwen, thanks for the message. I missed the anniversary and that this was a new entry for this year. I am travelling at the moment so can't make the change. Please feel free to reinstate the blurb and image. Probably remove another US 20th century item - Dumelow (talk) 18:24, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Much Appreciated. I removed the E.T. anniversary since it was probably special for last year (1982).-- <b style="color:#E62020">GD</b><b style="color:#273BE2">uwen</b> <b style="background:#318CE7; padding:2px; color:cyan"> Holler! </b> 18:48, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Pantalon rouge
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 * Can you spot the problem?
 * "all that gives the solider his vivid aspect"
 * Why did no one spot this in over two weeks? Shenme (talk) 02:39, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * WP:SOFIXIT, it's a fairly common typo for soldier. I've made the correction - Dumelow (talk) 07:06, 26 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you for more DYK! - Regarding the Bach-related event, I brought the article back after the discussion to the year and the date. If the fact of assuming the post would require an extra article, it could be dropped. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:38, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for placing it! That's a first for me, and more to come, promised. - However: he assumed the post as a mid-aged man, while the pic is of him close to death. Also, everybody has seen it. The church - sadly the only pic in the article, I miss Mathsci - would be more informative. Or no pic. Or ignore me ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:00, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi Gerda, yes doesn't seem to be many options for a younger Bach? Photos of buildings don't tend to do too well so I usually look for a person.  If you'd prefer it without I can replace with one of Joan of Arc - Dumelow (talk) 10:30, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Sadly, we have none of a young Bach, - the only one (which is too young for this purpose) is disputed. Up to you, - I'd take Joan then. But I like the building with the doggies in font of the market. We can't take an interior of the church because it didn't the way all pic have when Bach worked there, - something I learned here, but only after the DYK had run with the "wrong" looks. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:25, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Pentecost was full of music, and my story today is that 300 years ago today, Bach became Thomaskantor, with BWV 75, writing music history, - thanks for bringing it to the Main page. The next interesting cantata would be BWV 76, but it was only one week later, and even if we placed it by occasion (2nd Sunday after Trinity) it would be 11 June (and people might not understand) - probably too soon. What do you think? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:45, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry for delay in reply, been away a bit. Yes, I think 11th would be a bit too soon to feature Bach again.  Though if it's a key milestone feel free to add it to the eligible section of the date page so it can feature in a future year.  Keen to hear any others though (whether Bach or not!) - Dumelow (talk) 19:29, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

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DYK for Art Greenspon
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IP Block exemption request
Hello Dumelow, Please i will like to request for an IP block exemption for this user:LordXI01 for a duration. He will be contributing to a wikipedia project " Africa Day Campaign". I you can grant him a minimum of 6 months IP block exemption. If did be glad. Below are his details: User:LordXI01 IP Address:102.176.94.159  JDQ   Joris Darlington Quarshie (talk) 06:44, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi Joris Darlington Quarshie, thanks for the message. I'm not really active on the blocking side of the admin role, you'd be best reaching out to someone more experienced in that field.  Perhaps a message at Wikipedia talk:IP block exemption would help - Dumelow (talk) 06:49, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:32, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

June music
Thank you for consistently checking the quality of the special anniversaries! - For the first time, you can listen to a concert with me in the (four) choirs on YouTube, - on my talk, look for "listen" if interested. - Today's story is taken from a 2011 DYK, talking about brotherhood (which includes sisters), - the piece in question, beginning with a psalm quotation, was first performed 300 years ago OTD - as discussed. Perhaps it will be FA some day. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:04, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Jörg Widmann is 50 today, and I began Stockholm pics. - I added a Bach piece to 2 July, - one of the few for 5 parts. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:07, 19 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I haven't even looked at July yet! - Dumelow (talk) 05:40, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
 * and now? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:19, 30 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi Gerda Arendt, sorry I was unexpectedly away for a week or so and the date has passed. I can't see a Bach piece at Selected anniversaries/July 2, was this the right date? - Dumelow (talk) 13:46, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I'll try again for Christmas when the same piece was performed with Christmas additions, also more certain, while scholars disagree about the first performance on 2 July. - Just let me understand: I didn't dare to edit the selection itself, only the day and the year. Was that wrong? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:50, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh sorry, I don't look at the date pages themselves unless I need to pull a few extra hooks in for balance. Please do feel free to add to the "eligible" section of the main selected anniversaries page.  I check them all before adding them anyway.  All the best - Dumelow (talk) 13:53, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I'll look into Erforsche mich, Gott, und erfahre mein Herz, BWV 136, for 18 July next unless you say that's hopeless ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:16, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
 * upd: I looked, and added it to July 18, to 1723, and to the selected anniversaries, however just to eligible there, - not bold enough to bring it to the ones shown ;) - please let me know what you think, and what may be missing. - I checked the refs of this article of about 8 years, and made some fixes already. I'll go now and transform them to sfn, and do other fine-tuning. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:24, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks Gerda, is there anything we can say about the piece itself? At the moment we're just saying he performed it not why it is significant - Dumelow (talk) 17:02, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I am probably not yet in OTD enough. It's not about the specific piece, but that 300 years ago, Bach began a cycle of new cantatas for the occasions of the liturgical year, week after week, and more when there were feast days. We can't have them all, which would be boring. We missed the Magnificat which may be good because while it's more significant than this cantata, the date is less certain. For one of the most significant pieces by Bach, Jesu, meine Freude, we have no idea of a day of first performance, not even the year. Thoughts? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:00, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah, I think the best to have featured from the cycle might have been the first one then? Perhaps we could cover the last as completing the cycle? - Dumelow (talk) 17:20, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Remember, we had the first one, but without speaking of the cycle. The last one is in no way more interesting than this one, and he began the second cycle right afterwards. - Looking at what seems interesting enough - like a plain crash - I still think a piece of music that lasted for 300 years and has kept researchers and performers busy might be a welcome change of topic. SWR --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:32, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 206, June 2023
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Rotate "bs"
I giggle every time I see that edit summary. BorgQueen (talk) 14:19, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
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DYK for Jurate Kazickas
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DYK for Anne Mills Archbold
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The Bugle: Issue 207, July 2023
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Women in Red 8th Anniversary
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July thanks
On today's Main page, you can find a cantata that Bach first performed 300 years ago (thanks to you!), and an iconic saxophonist from East Germany. Also: a bit about the history of QAI on my talk. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:50, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

ps: I doubt that "directed" was the best way to describe what Bach did when performing: most likely directing while playing first violin. But I'm no expert of English. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:00, 21 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi Gerda, glad we were able to feature this great article. I posted it as "led", it was later changed - Dumelow (talk) 06:43, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Understand. - While today's DYK highlights Santiago on his day, I did my modest share with my story today, describing what I just experienced, pictured. I began the article of the woman in green. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:34, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Women in Red August 2023
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The Signpost: 1 August 2023
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DYK for John Hitchman
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The Bugle: Issue 208, August 2023
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Administrators' newsletter – August 2023
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2023).



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OTD
Thank you for looking over the OTD section, - today's - with the triumph of music over military - is uplifting! Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:15, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * deserves all the credit for selecting that one; a truly fascinating article. I really enjoyed the whole day's OTD, a real mix of topics and regions covered, thanks VP - Dumelow (talk) 11:43, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanked as well ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:11, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Today's story is about a tenor, - why his roles are not linked on the Main page remains a mystery to me. Today is also the birthday of the Bayreuth Festival, on OTD! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:42, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Today is Debussy's birthday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:56, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * This too shall pass. - Ten years ago on 28 August, I heard a symphony, with a heavy heart because of the pending decision in WP:ARBINFOBOX, and not worried about my future here but Andy's. - It passed, and I could write the DYK about calling to dance, not battle, and Andy could write the DYK mentioning about peace and reconciliation, - look. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:24, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi Gerda Arendt, sorry I haven't been on here for a few weeks, busy with other stuff. I don't think I will have time to participate regularly at OTD much any more but hoping to dip my toe back into article creation - Dumelow (talk) 07:06, 4 September 2023 (UTC)

Marescaux
Hi, I'm thinking about putting Gerald Marescaux up for GA. I wondered if you had any thoughts about the article beforehand? Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 17:28, 10 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi Pickersgill-Cunliffe, I had another look around for a free image but came up short, you could add a small fair use image if you liked. I guess he resided in Kilkenny, where his wife was from as he is commemorated on the war memorial there.  The National Archives has three records of interest.  You can download these free if you have an account, or else I can drop them over to you by email - Dumelow (talk) 20:37, 14 August 2023 (UTC)


 * ADM-196-88-24 - almost an annual report of sorts with comments on his conduct in each post since making Lieutenant
 * ADM-196-39-145 harder to read but another career history with entries for each vessel over his entire career
 * ADM-196-20-182, a somewhat neater copy of his career, briefer in detail with dates of appointment to each ship. Notes his birthplace as St Mary's Hospital in Paddington


 * I was looking for some colour to add to his early career and found a newspaper article (Oxfordshire Weekly News 4 December 1889 page 6: "A Crumbling Island") detailing a survey he made whilst on Egeria. In October 1889 the ship visited Falcon Island in Tonga.  This had been created by a volcanic eruption in 1885.  Mrescaux led a landing party to survey the island.  They found the ground formed of cinders almost too hot to walk on.  They erected a flag pole some 250ft above sea level and 20 yards inland from a cliff.  Soon after returning to the ship the land started falling away into the water and in three days their flagpole had succumbed. The party collected samples of the volcanic deposits which were sent to the Hydrographer of the Navy.
 * He returned from the Alecto aboard the RMS Batanga, reaching Liverpool on 7 September 1896,("Naval Intelligence" page 3 London Evening Standard 8 September 1896). "Suavitur Sed Fortiter" page 8 Bray and South Dublin Herald 5 January 1901: a submarine survey Marescaux conducted of part of the African coast was well received by teh Admiralty and resulted in an increase of pay of 6s 6d a day. Descended from William de Marisco of Lundy. "Status of the Portland Command" Globe page 3 26 August 1913: Marescaux was appointed to command Portland in the knowledge that he was the eighth most senior Captain in the navy and that the post would become a rear-admiral's command in the near future on account of its place as principal Southern assembly point for the Home Fleet.  Marescaux was granted the honour of being the first admiral to fly his flag ashore at Portland - Dumelow (talk) 21:28, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Took me an age(!) to get to this, but I have finally expanded the article with the above. Thank you for the information. As unpublished primary sources I feel that I can't include the TNA reports, but they make interesting reading! Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 16:03, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

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DYK for Herbert Jackson (crammer)
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DYK for Earl Hays Press
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September 2023 at Women In Red
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