User talk:DuncanHill/Archives/2008/November

User:Edison/Archie Frederick Collins
Thanks for the contribution to the draft article. I have been wondering if, when I judge it ready for main space, I should just do a move as opposed to a cut and paste? I want to nail down notability with several independent refs with substantial coverage, but the total sales of his numerous books might satisfy some criterion, if they could be documented. Do you see the lack of a death date as a barrier to notability, for someone who lived from 1869 to circa 1951 or 1955? Edison (talk) 03:41, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I usually cut and paste, but I don't think it makes that much difference really. The lack of a death date should not be a problem in terms of notability - I think the Who Was Who reference argues to notability. Of course, a death date would be good, and I strongly suspect that he would have been obituarized somewhere. A reference for sales of his books would also be helpful, but personally I don't think it would be essential before a move to mainspace. Apart from that - thanks for writing an article about such an interesting person! DuncanHill (talk) 14:22, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your improvement to this article. I would appreciate your input as to what the article should be called. On his books, Collins listed his name as "A. Frederick Collins." This is also what he was called in i various American newspapers during the stock promotion campaign which got him into trouble in 1911. Who's Who listed him as "A(RCHIE) FREDERICK COLLINS. So should the main article be moved to "A. Frederick Collins" and "Archie Frederick Collins be a redirect, or would you leave it as is? I note the articles W. Somerset Maugham, A. A. Milne, C. S. Lewis and H. G. Wells where the title is the most commonly used version of the name. Thanks again. Edison (talk) 20:18, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The move sounds appropriate to me. Sorry about delay in replying! DuncanHill (talk) 18:46, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Geographic coordinates
You're welcome, DuncanHill. It's a pleasure adding coordinates, as I learn something new with every page. BrainMarble (talk) 21:08, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Glad to see you back
I'd offer you a pasty of your choice, if we were in physical proximity. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  22:34, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks - I'm not going to be on as much as I was, but while I can I will! There's a butcher's at Tregonnissey Lane End makes great pasties, if you're ever in St Austell. DuncanHill (talk) 22:37, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I live in Milwaukee, Wisconsin; I have to go outstate to get good fresh pastys, but not as far as St. Austell! -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  00:40, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You should be able to get a good pasty in Wisconsin (look for old mining areas), or otherwise there is a Pasty Fest in Calumet, Michigan, which sounds like an excellent idea. DuncanHill (talk) 00:45, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

New Cornish articles
Hi Duncan, ta for your note about new articles on WikiProject Cornwall/New articles. I've found another one - Trevose Head - and added it. When I get a minute I'll trawl through for any others. Are there any other new pages that particularly need starting?

I'll also add some coordinates as time allows. Is there a Project policy (or has there been discussion) about coords for rivers? One of the articles I noticed suggested giving coords for both ends of linear feature - so, for example, one would give the coords for the source of a river and for its mouth or its confluence if it was a tributary. Any thoughts or gidance? If so, please reply to my talk page. Best wishes, Andy F (talk) 23:13, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, have replied at your talk. DuncanHill (talk) 23:21, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


 * OK, Duncan, ta for the steer to the Project page for linear coordinates. I have read both the Project page and the talk page (which is quite long) and the consensus for rivers seems to be the page's main coord (the one that tops the article) should be the mouth (either the sea or, in the case of tributaries, the confluence) but with subsidiary coords for the source and for major points (crossings, confluences etc) along the length.


 * In the case of Cornwall, with the exception of the Tamar, Camel and Fowey, the rivers are so short as to warrant coords only at source and mouth. What d'you reckon? Where should we seek consensus? Best, Andy F (talk) 23:52, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Again, ta Duncan. As a (tiny) start I've just added the coords (for the mouth only) on the article Hayle River. I'll re-read the pages on linear coords and experiment in my sandbox over the next day or so. Cheers Andy F (talk) 00:03, 20 November 2008 (UTC) PS I meant River Hayle Andy F (talk) 00:05, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Doggone, that was funny.
Poor Killer Chihuahua! Had to rub in the error just a bit. Actually, it made me laugh. Thanks for stepping up for me. I appreciate it. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 00:54, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * No problems - can't remember why you were on my watchlist, but had noticed you reporting lots of vandals so I was a bit surprised to see you blocked! Same thing has happened to me before - and that admin managed to unblock me and apologize before I even noticed! DuncanHill (talk) 00:57, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

You bet. In fact the poor woman is all over herself apologizing for it and of course, I just had to gently rub it in. I'd figured it was a boo-boo from the get-go anyway. Virtual Steve's "denial" is a classic. I can't remember the last time I had this much fun here! Anyway, thanks again. I genuinely appreciate the assistance. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 01:04, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Geology of Cornwall
Hi Duncan, I notice you have contributed to the article Geology of Cornwall.

As I have recently worked on articles on Cornish rivers and have an interest in the geology of Cornwall, I have Photoshopped a map showing the major geological areas of the Duchy. You can see it at User_talk:Andy_F and if you think it suitable it could be used on the article Geology of Cornwall.

I've left a similar message on Jowwww's Talk page. Best wishes, Andy F (talk) 06:53, 17 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi Duncan, I've now added a second map to Geology of Cornwall Andy F (talk) 19:40, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

River / linear coordinates
Hi again, Duncan. Further to our recent discussion I've run up a suggested format in my sandbox. Please have a look at it and make any suggestions or comments on my talk page before I deploy the info / format and put it up for the wider consensus you suggested. Best wishes, Andy F (talk) 15:21, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Managers and secretaries
Hi with reference to a recent language ref desk post I thought you might find following OR event funny. Some technicians were trying to explain to HQ why a certain function should be changed and gave an example starting with "Imagine a manager left alone at night, not knowing how to operate the machine..." HQ replied "Don't leave your managers alone at night." (That's why just testing instructions on secretaries didn't yield representative approximations of "usability".)Lisa4edit 76.97.245.5 (talk) 06:30, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Geology of Cornwall (2)
Hi Duncan, I've done a third map - Geology of the Lizard - which is intended for the Geology of Cornwall article and the Lizard Complex article. It is on my talk page.

I've asked Mike to give it the expert eyes and I'd be grateful if you could have a look too. Ta Andy F (talk) 18:00, 24 November 2008 (UTC)