User talk:DuncanHill/Archives/2010/April

Angarrack viaduct
Thanks for having a look at Angarrack viaduct Duncan. Thanks, too, for making me aware of the 'structures' stub template – I hadn't realised there was one hence my misuse of the 'geo' one. All the best Andy F (talk) 10:05, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem - thank you for writing the article. I created the Structures stub, so tend to notice where it should be used :) DuncanHill (talk) 21:38, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Seven Bays ?
Hi Duncan, would you like to see what you make of Seven Bays, a new unreffed article? Andy F (talk) 07:37, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Any thoughts on this article yet? Andy F (talk) 18:35, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It's not a name I've heard used for the area - maybe estate-agentese? That said, add some refs and I've not got a problem with the content. DuncanHill (talk) 20:38, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it seemed like marketing speak to me too. Perhaps the lead could clarify its origin? Getting refs might not be plain sailing - when I googled the term I didn't get very far. I won't be in the Trevose area until May so I can't check it out at first hand for a while yet. I'll put Seven Bays on my 'to do' list for the time being. Andy F (talk) 21:28, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Gwinear
Hi Duncan, many thanks for sorting out Gwinear, Cornwall, Gwinear-Gwithian and Saint Gwinear with the dab. I corrected as many links as I could find and had thought of a dab page but I wasn't sure how to go about doing one. So well done! As you'll have seen, I've only got as far as 'G' in my trawl through the bluelinks in the list – it's slow going! Cheers, Andy F (talk) 18:35, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * It may be slow going, but I'm hugely impressed with all you've done so far! As for Gwinear - I hadn't realised that the saint was in the wrong place (and that we lacked the village) until you moved him to the right one! Dabbing is a hobby of mine so if ever you need a hand with anything like that please do ask. I've got a list of dab pages & surprising destinations relating to Cornwall at User:DuncanHill/Cornwall dabs. DuncanHill (talk) 20:43, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the very kind comment, Duncan. I came across the Gwinear confusion by accident while trying to sort out the list. Thanks for the offer of assistance with dab pages – good to know there's help so close at hand. Your dab list is indeed both interesting and surprising. Nice one.
 * Now I'm going to start on 'H'. And when I get to 'Z', it's back to 'A' to tackle the redlinks – wish me a long life! Best wishes, Andy F (talk) 21:34, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Arbitration Enforcement/Standards and principles
Hello, I do not quite understand what you mean by this edit. How is the avoidance of jargon a particular concern in this area?  Sandstein  12:21, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Have you noticed the section heading? Latin jargon like that helps no-one. DuncanHill (talk) 16:13, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Then would it not be more helpful to change the section title rather than to append a statement to the section that is not about arbitration enforcement, but about the section title?  Sandstein   21:28, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * You want help from non-admins now? Fine. DuncanHill (talk) 21:31, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks.  Sandstein   21:46, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Rivers
Hi Duncan, I notice you've added the De Lank and Ottery to the Cornwall template. I hadn't thought of that. Anything I should do when I add new river articles in future? Best wishes Andy F (talk) 14:20, 14 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Nothing I can think of in particular - but then, if you'd asked me before I probably wouldn't have thought of adding them to the template! Sometimes I can only realise what should be done after seeing something that triggers the thought. DuncanHill (talk) 11:53, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Launceston
Hi Duncan, I've just been improving Launceston – I'd be very grateful if you could check my work for accuracy, structure etc etc. Best wishes as ever, Andy F (talk) 08:26, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar
Duncan, you have made a very notable and significant contribution to WP:Cornwall over the years. You richly deserve this Barnstar Andy F (talk) 21:13, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

User:75.68.82.23
Hi. Do you have a friendly admin you can ping about this person's edits? Ronhjones issued a "final warning", but hasn't responded to my request to followup with a block, and my notice on AN/I hasn't gotten any action either. (Not sexy enough, I guess.) It's getting to be a bit annoying following this person around and cleaning up after them. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:29, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll try LHvU. Apart form him, not many adins care for my presence very much. DuncanHill (talk) 21:31, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:32, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

The Lizard parishes map
Hi Duncan, I've done a sketch map and list of the parishes on the peninsula – these are intended to augment the article The Lizard.

Before my text and map go into the article, would be so kind as to check the work please. I have roughed it out in my sandbox here User:Andy_F/Sandbox. I've also asked Felix as he is quite expert on Cornish parishes. Please leave any comments (or just an 'OK') on my talk page. Many thanks, best wishes Andy F (talk) 08:50, 21 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi again Duncan, I've done substantial reworking on the Lizard parishes map and text here. I'd appreciate your opinion again please – leave comments on my talk page as before. Thanks, Andy F (talk) 07:31, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

User 95.149.50.162 edits
Not vandalism, but inappropriate, no? I'm learning so I appreciate guidance. The editor removed content and replaced it with what I consider advertisement for the band rather than neutral point of view information about the band. Certainly the name and contact information of the band's director is not appropriate. May I suggest a new section about the band written with a more neutral point of view? Wikipelli Talk 13:05, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Useful list?
Hi Duncan, I came across this list on the Cornwall Council website. I thought it could be useful to WP:Cornwall perhaps? If so, I'm not sure where it should go. If I get time – it's a longgggg list – I might have a go at Wikifying it. Best wishes as always, Andy F (talk) 15:30, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Cornish Democrats
Hello DuncanHill. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Cornish Democrats, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: a party that is running candidates in a general election has at least an assertion of notability, enough to pass A7. Thank you. JohnCD (talk) 17:59, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks for letting me know (it's just the one candidate, not candidates, by the way). DuncanHill (talk) 18:01, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I have reviewed the "Party"'s website, and can see no mention of any party functionary other than the founder and sole parliamentary candidate. This political force (created 2010) appears to be the simple apparatus of one individual, and I am uncertain if independents who identify as such are considered notable per se. If you wanted to raise a AfD I would likely support. I have a COI - I am a voter in that constituency - or otherwise I might consider raising it myself. LessHeard vanU (talk) 18:17, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
 * So nominated. I will update the "Articles for deletion" sub-page of the Cornwall Wikiproject accordingly. DuncanHill (talk) 18:33, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Duncan, I've also had a look at the website. I agree with you and LHvU that this is an individual independent candidate and not a political party as such. It might be argued that anyone standing in a general election (whether for a mainstream party, a fringe party or as an independent) meets the notability guideline – but if so then I'd argue the article should be titled Jonathan Rogers and re-written to reflect that. So I too would support an AfD. Andy F (talk) 20:51, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The article actually said "candidates" - I have now amended it to "a candidate". I might have accepted the speedy if I had realised it was a one man band, though you could argue it contains an assertion of importance... Anyway, the AfD seems decisive. JohnCD (talk) 09:40, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, I always think that Speedies should default to "keep" if there is any doubt, so I have no problem with your decision. It's a lot easier to go to AfD with a declined speedy than it is to go to deletion review with an agreed one. DuncanHill (talk) 09:54, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

A Warning to the Curious
How is redirecting this "abusive"? It's a non-notable episode without a single source. Episodes are almost never notable. This one blatantly fails WP:EPISODE, which clearly highlights that individual episodes lacking notability may be redirected. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 18:52, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, maybe I was a little snippy. Still, the user has a history of making questionable articles such as insect film. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 18:55, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Showrunner
It's a moot point now, but I thought you might be interested to know that although the term "showrunner" is American in origin, it's being used fairly regularly in the British media these days, especially in relation to Doctor Who. Here are a few examples from British sources:, ,. You can see Russell T Davies discussing the role of the showrunner (which he does call "American") in an interview with Mark Lawson here. I used it in the tag because it encompasses both the writer and producer side of the job. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 21:48, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm, well I wouldn't trust meeja types with the English language.... :) As I was writing the initial query, I thought it must be Indian-English, that's what it sounds like. More seriously, I don't think it has achieved the currency or widespread recognition in Britain to get away with its use in a tag. The DYK hook was genuinely the first time I've ever seen the word. DuncanHill (talk) 21:52, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Fair enough — I just wanted to let you know that it wasn't completely unknown on your side of the pond. :) —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 22:18, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem - always glad to learn a new word. DuncanHill (talk) 22:22, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of William Cavendish, 5th Duke of Devonshire
An article that you have been involved in editing, William Cavendish, 5th Duke of Devonshire, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/. Thank you.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Yappy2bhere (talk) 23:25, 29 April 2010 (UTC)