User talk:Duncan Berger

September 2007
This is the only warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. If you vandalize Wikipedia again, as you did to Max Mosley, you will be blocked from editing. -- Kl4m  Talk Contrib 23:23, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

This is the only warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. If you vandalize Wikipedia again, you will be blocked from editing. -- Kl4m  Talk Contrib 23:24, 18 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I will reconsider. You see, these are the first 4 edits of your account so judgement can be way quicker, especially without any web citation. -- Kl4m  Talk Contrib 23:38, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

I posted a request for review at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Fascism. -- Kl4m  Talk Contrib 23:55, 18 September 2007 (UTC) Keep this edit on ice for the time being I'd say. Post it on the talk page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kl4m (talk • contribs) 23:57, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Max Mosley - your comment on my talk page
Mr Berger, you posted the following on my talk page:

''I object most strongly to your identification of my four edits of Max Mosley as vandalism, which led to them being deleted. Each and every one of them was carefully sourced. They were researched at some length and to have them wiped out so dismissively, arbitrarily and unfairly is frustrating. They concern an important subject. Please justify and please reconsider. Duncan Berger (talk • 00:39, 18 September 2007 (UTC)''

If you had checked the history page for the Max Mosley article carefully you would have seen that it was not I who reverted your edits but user Kl4m, see his/her comments above. Thank you. --ukexpat 14:59, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Max Mosley
I don't have the time or the access to sources to review this. If wikiproject Facism didn't respond just put the material back. Make a mention on the talk page that it should be reviewed and it will be alright. -- Kl4m  T C 18:25, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

After reviewing the contributions to the extent of my sources, I feel like it's just a bunch of hearsay implying that he is/was a facist. You could tell that Max Mosley suffered from his father's reputation, but I don't see any substantial claim warranting the addition of a "Facist activities" title in his article. -- Kl4m  T C 20:34, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Mosley
Hi - I've done some editing after you on the Max Mosley page. I've deleted the para on Max & co's dressing up as Teds etc. Not because I don't believe it, but because it comes word for word from the source and is presumably therefore a copyright violation. Re-written in your own words it can go back in - if it's from a reliable source. Be aware that self-published material is not usually considered to fit into that category. Cheers. 4u1e 20:08, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Mosley
Hello again. At first glance, your version appears to be the one supported by references, although some of your references may be quite weak. Can I ask you to discuss the matter with 86.206.75.50 at the talk page for Mosley's article? Assuming that s/he will enter into a discussion of course. Please also remember WP:3RR. Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 19:33, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * 'lo again. I've compared the version of Max Mosley's involvement at Notting Hill Gate given by your source with Grundy's book, which is where the author claims to have got his facts from. Unfortunately, although I can sort of see the connection, Vague's summary is highly misleading. Your precis of it was even more so, because you didn't include the same degree of weaselly 'wriggle room' that he did (that's probably to your credit as a writer, by the way!). That version of the material will have to stay firmly out of the article, I'm afraid. See more details here. Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 15:54, 26 November 2007 (UTC)