User talk:Dunccurtis

Adding links to articles
If you are going to add 'virtual tours' to articles, may I suggest that one such link per article is enough. Murray Langton (talk) 16:41, 4 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Definitely enough. The one External links is OK, but a link that that in the lede is totally inappropriate. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:48, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Gents, understand your comments thanks. If someone has searched a town page where I have inserted a virtual tour, one of their main aims is to find out about that town. What better way than to visit it (via one of the town's official websites where the tours sit?) Why does someone keep removing the tours? Is that legitimate? Dunccurtis (talk) 13:24, 7 January 2011 (UTC)duncan curtisDunccurtis (talk) 13:24, 7 January 2011 (UTC)


 * The link you have provided is not to the town's official website but to a commercial website for estate agents, but because the advertising isn't obvious from the virtual tours no-one has (yet) objected to that. As I said earlier, the link in External Links is OK (in my view and I think in Murray's), but what isn't appropriate is an in-line link in the lede text.  It wouldn't be appropriate there, and in any case a link shouldn't be provided in that way.  The edits which have been reverted are the ones where you have ignored Murray's earlier advice. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:44, 7 January 2011 (UTC)


 * You may find, however, that as yours seems to be a WP:SPA, being used only to add what might be regarded as advertising links, there may be objections from other editors. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:53, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Sole activity being placement of external links to a single web address (with differing pages) is spamming Wikipedia to me. I've removed them all.  The should not go back unless there is real community agreement. -- Herby  talk thyme 14:36, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

The links are all to separate virtual tour platforms which we have developed to showcase these beautiful towns and to help boost the visitor economy. We are working with town councils, chambers of commerce and tourist boards and thought that Wikipedia visitors would love to be able to see the towns they are researching here. If you don't want them available to wiki visitors I will remove them again... (Dunccurtis (talk) 16:47, 7 January 2011 (UTC)duncan curtisDunccurtis (talk) 16:47, 7 January 2011 (UTC))
 * They have already gone. -- Herby talk thyme 18:10, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

I cannot understand why the virtual tours have been taken down. We are working with legitimate town organisations to help showcase WHY people may like to visit them. Virtual tours are proven to be popular with web viewers. They encourage people to go to these beautiful towns and our aim is to cover more and more of the country. Here are links to some of the websites we are in - most of which you have allowed links to! Our tours sit on our server WITHIN these websites, hence we can link directly to them. I understand you are trying to protect the integrity of wikipedia but suggest respectfully that in this case you are limiting what the majority of wikipedia visitors would like to see. http://www.dorchesterdorset.com/ http://www.hungerford.uk.net/ http://www.wallingford.co.uk/ http://www.visitoxfordandoxfordshire.com/ Although I may be biased, I think the virtual tour link should be inserted in a number of different places within each of the relevant town pages - the intro, the places of interest, the shopping, and the external links. They will add value to all these sections and only people who are interested will click on them, which is surely the best form of mediation. - duncan curtis (signature added by Murray Langton).

--- Duncan, May I suggest that you have a look at About and also at What Wikipedia is not and at Neutral point of view to get a better feel for what Wikipedia is all about. Note that in accordance with a 'Neutral point of view', Wikipedia does not display advertisements; instead it is funded by donations which in some ways makes it more trustworthy. In particular, commercial links within articles are generally discouraged, except in a Wikipedia article about the commercial entity. The links you have been adding have been judged by several editors to be commercial - they certainly contain adverts for businesses in the towns described - even though they do have lots of pictures. As mentioned by David Biddulph (who correctly read my mind), I would have been prepared to tolerate one such link in the 'External links' section of an article, but your insistence, even after being blocked, on adding them all over the place within an article is too much. Murray Langton (talk) 15:43, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Blocked
You have been blocked indefinitely from editing because your account is being used mainly for spamming or advertising. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text below this notice, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. ~Amatulić (talk) 18:20, 7 January 2011 (UTC)