User talk:Durdyfiv1

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 Sincerely,  P.I. Ellsworth   ed.  put'r there 01:31, 15 July 2020 (UTC)    [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Paine_Ellsworth&action=edit&section=new&preload=Template:Welcome_to_Wikipedia/user-talk_preload (Leave me a message)]

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Wikipedia Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.--Jonmaxras (talk) 20:28, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Durdyfiv1, please read No personal attacks. In your comments at Talk:Holocaust you readily admit to attacking other editors. If this kind of incivility continues, you will be blocked. Please consider this a final warning. Fences  &amp;  Windows  12:23, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:The Holocaust § RfC - First sentence in lede
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:The Holocaust § RfC - First sentence in lede. warmly, ezlev.  talk  17:53, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

February 2021
Please do not attack other editors. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you.  Acroterion   (talk)   03:04, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * You were given a final warning a couple of weeks ago.  Acroterion   (talk)   03:18, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

 You have been blocked from editing for a period of 31 hours for making personal attacks towards other editors. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:.  Acroterion   (talk)   03:32, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Important notice
RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 02:58, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

NPA
Here you made PAs against myself and another editor. As I said there, if there is any repetition, there will be consequences.Selfstudier (talk) 18:24, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Where's my PAs? Be specific please. Durdyfiv1 (talk) 19:25, 10 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Well firstly there was this where you called an editor a tool, then there was this where you cast aspersions on another editor and called him a Hamas-sympathiser. This isn't the first time you've made personal attacks. Knock it off. — Czello 19:45, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

That's actually really creepy, you keep a log of all users who use divisive language... I didn't see that page, but I didn't know this was high school. Is it not justified to call out editors on their asinine stance? Why is Wikipedia, especially the TALK pages, different to any other forum or discussion site?

Regarding that page of my supposed previous 'PAs', I'm not gonna go into each issue but they are all grounded claims or reasonable assumptions based on how those users were editing. Perhaps you could link me to a page which outlines Wikipedia policing policies? Durdyfiv1 (talk) 22:36, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Nishidani's editing policies lend me to believe he is a Hamas-sympathiser. That is only a personal attack if you choose to believe that being a Hamas-sympathiser is something bad. If he believes that is so, why doesn't he try editing in a way which doesn't reflect that he's sympathetic towards Hamas. Durdyfiv1 (talk) 22:39, 10 June 2021 (UTC)


 * You literally have a notice at the top of this page the mentions you had an ANI thread about personal attacks; I didn't need to "keep a log" about it. You can disagree with editors if you feel they're mistaken, but you must do so in a WP:CIVIL manner. Why is Wikipedia, especially the TALK pages, different to any other forum or discussion site -- because we don't allow personal attacks. Name-calling ("Stop being a tool") and casting aspersions are not acceptable; ultimately this is a collaborative project, and if you can't collaborate in a civil manner then the project might not be for you. I'd also point you towards WP:AGF in regards to assuming someone's political inclination based on their edits. As for a more general page about what is or isn't acceptable, you can find it here. — Czello 07:02, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * "Hey Nishidani, try thinking rationally and not, you know... Like leftist-liberalists and Hamas-sympathisers tend to do." is your latest effort, at the same place, and after you have once again been specifically advised against continuing such behavior. WP:NOTHERE and WP:CIR appear increasingly relevant. Last chance saloon.Selfstudier (talk) 09:05, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Absolutely brilliant. I should first say thank you Czello for the links but I don't believe I have been in violation of all those rules you listed. I have assumed good faith until I saw a track record of Nishidani's edits. I have not merely "cast aspersions". Though I do not understand Wiki techy terms (as Wiki is open to all I do not NEED to), the log I was referring to is the separate page with other users' misconduct. What is that if not a log.

Moreover, colour me shocked that whenever an editor agrees with a certain user, they tend to dismiss that user's wrongdoings, while focusing on the person they are out to target. I specifically wrote that N's a hypocrite yet you (Selfstudier) call myself out on PA's and not them.

This is a collaborative project but forgive me if I don't view all editors, including but not limited to yourselves, as here to simply collaborate. Durdyfiv1 (talk) 09:51, 11 June 2021 (UTC)


 * The "log" in question is a notice board for users to bring the actions of others to the attention of administrators where they feel someone has acted inappropriately. Back in Jan you were reported for personal attacks there, which is why left a final warning on your page above. The comments you've made on the Israel/Palestine article clearly cross a line -- name calling isn't acceptable, and I do not agree with your justification in calling Nishidani a Hamas sympathiser several times (as well as saying he's not thinking rationally, and implying that no leftist/liberals think rationally). — Czello 11:05, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
 * You can hold whatever views float your boat, just keep them to yourself if they concern other editors and please read WP:INDENT.Selfstudier (talk) 13:42, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Czello you can disagree with something based on how you interpret a situation. But you cannot claim moral authority in how to interpret a situation. Nishidani has made several edits on articles concerning Jews and Israel.

If you are not prone to antisemitism, be it underhanded, you will not always see it.

Selfstudier, thank you. Now please go after Nishidani for attacking me. Or alas don't and further give me confirmation. Durdyfiv1 (talk) 01:42, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

June 2021
 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing because it appears that you are not here to build an encyclopedia. Not only have you repeated personal attacks after earlier being warned and then blocked, but you've deceptively edited a biography under the guise of fixing a typo in the edit summary to include a blatant attack. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Fences &amp;  Windows  17:29, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

If you check my last talk page 'NPA', it seems to me that based on the fact the editors couldn't provide a legitimate enough response to my responses to warrant a block, they backed off and instead just gave me friendly advice. Now you've unilaterally taken the decision to block me. I would like to know on what grounds you can do this please. The Jeremy Corbyn typo thing was a joke, though it was not a "blatant attack" – again, you're just another Wiki editor proving my point. If there is sufficient grounds to block me, this decision has to be taken by a neutral arbiter. Otherwise what is the point of Wikipedia. Durdyfiv1 (talk) 01:33, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
 * As an uninvolved admin, I am a neutral arbiter. You were warned and blocked in February for personal attacks, yet you persisted in making them. Editing BLPs as a "joke" is exactly what we don't need. You may appeal the block following the instructions in the block notice - another admin will consider your appeal. Fences  &amp;  Windows  18:03, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

"As an uninvolved admin, I am a neutral arbiter."

That logic is so flawed, it's truly comical – do you generally insult other readers' intelligence? You aren't 'neutral', you're a socialist (not a PA, I checked your page) who slapped a block on me for saying something hard-hitting about your god. Durdyfiv1 (talk) 10:34, 13 June 2021 (UTC)