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The Jazz Singer
Hi Dutchy, you have just made an edit at here, but there is a problem with the numbers.

You state that it earned "$947,000 domestically and $651,000 foreign", but this does not add up to $2,625,000. The worldwide figure seems to be corroborated by Hall & Neale, but they put the domestic take at $1,974,000. The $1,974,000 figure is further corroborated by Crafton. Furthermore, the sum of $1,974,000 and $651,000 comes to $2,625,000, a total you yourself added. This would indicate a mistake with the domestic figure so could you please double check it for me please. Betty Logan (talk) 21:01, 29 September 2018 (UTC) You are entirely right, thanks Betty. The actual copy I've got of the ledger says 947,000 for domestic but I think they wrote it down incorrectly.Dutchy85 (talk) 21:10, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

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Re: Medea (1959 film)
Hello Dutchy85 I have added projects Television, United States, to your article. You may wish to join them, check their to-do, and meet new people with interest in these topics. Cheers, --Gryllida (talk) 01:17, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

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Ways to improve The Silver Whistle
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Delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer. Thanks Boleyn... sorry didn't reference I normally do just got called away mid edit. Sorry! Will fix :) Boleyn (talk) 20:40, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

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film budgets and incomes
How did you gain access to the Eddie Mannix Ledger? —  fourthords  &#124; =Λ= &#124;  17:12, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * It's in the Margaret Herrick Library in Los Angeles. It's a marvellous resource.Dutchy85 (talk) 22:49, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * You actually visited the library to peruse it? That's impressive; thanks!  —   fourthords  &#124; =Λ= &#124;  15:29, 28 March 2019 (UTC) Yes it's well worth a visit - the stats turn up in various biographies and articles as well. There's also financial records for Warner Bros and RKO around this time.Dutchy85 (talk) 02:45, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

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"Sky West and Crooked" film
Re your edit today, I note that IMDb refers to the working title of this film as having been "Bats With Baby Faces". Since I have no way of checking your cited source, can you please confirm that "Bats Have Baby Faces" is indeed what is mentioned therein? Blurryman (talk) 17:53, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hope you don't mind me jumping in, but the BFI also list the title as "Bats with Baby Faces" too: https://www.bfi.org.uk/films-tv-people/4ce2b6b62acc6 Betty Logan (talk) 18:00, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 * thanks for this! i checked - it should be "with" - the article that was my source had it wrong but the article also said it was a line from a TS Eliot poem the Wasteland. I checked that poem and it should be "with". Put another source which said it was "with" too. Thank you!Dutchy85 (talk) 05:22, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Happy to help. Good team work! Blurryman (talk) 21:33, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

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Stewart Granger
Hi, I need a miracle, I found Teodoro Cottrau was probably his great grandfather, can you find something about this? Excuse me for my horrible english.. --188.15.239.111 (talk) 13:50, 18 July 2019 (UTC) Hi there English not horrible at all! :) Not much I can do about it... is it worth writing an article for a publication on this? Wikipedia needs references to publish that sort of stuff. Great discovery! Dutchy85 (talk) 18:36, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

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November 2019
You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for violating copyright policy by copying text or images into Wikipedia from another source without evidence of permission, as you did at The Errol Flynn Theatre. Please take this opportunity to ensure that you understand our copyright policy and our policies regarding how to use non-free content. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. ‑Scottywong | [confabulate] || 01:42, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
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Dutchy, looking back on your talk page history, I see numerous similar incidents, and I see numerous similar explanations that you "just made a mistake" and you'll be more careful in the future. Can you explain how exactly it is possible to "mistakenly" copy and paste content from a copyrighted webpage into Wikipedia? How does such a thing happen accidentally? That's not something that can be explained by "oops I clicked on the wrong button" or "oops I hit the wrong key on my keyboard". What you're claiming is "oops I accidentally went to a copyrighted website, highlighted large portions of text, copied them, went to Wikipedia, and pasted that text into an article". There is no way that such a thing could be done accidentally by any competent person, especially not an editor that has made tens of thousands of edits. Not only that, this is far from the first time that it has happened with you. If you truly did this by mistake multiple times, then you're only proving that you lack the competence required to be an editor here. Another admin may decide to unblock you, but I won't agree to unblock you unless you can provide an adequate explanation for this behavior. And, "oops I made a mistake, I'll be more careful in the future" is not going to cut it this time. ‑Scottywong | [spout] || 03:30, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Scottywong, thanks for your prompt reply I really appreciate. The mistake came about by this - I was copying text because most of it was pure information (a director, an episode title, a date, a writer). I was copying episode descriptions with every intent to rearrange the wording but before I got the chance I was called away and pressed "publish" when I should not have done so. This was a high risk edit strategy which I should not have done. It was a mistake. I can only reiterate that since my last warning I have done an estimate 9,000 edits without a mistake (at least not to my knowledge). Thank you for your time.Dutchy85 (talk) 04:03, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Here's a simple rule that you can follow: do not copy-paste anything into Wikipedia, even if policy says that you can (for example, public domain content). NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 04:23, 11 November 2019 (UTC) Hi NinjaRobotPirate that is excellent advice. Thank you for taking the time to comment. Dutchy85 (talk) 04:25, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi scottywong thanks for getting back to me I appreciate it. I actually might take an involuntary long-term break from wikipedia so there is no hurry for the editors. I absolutely appreciate the hard work that all the editors do, and it's fantastic. I've just found this experience a bit debilitating. I put all the time and work - as do the editors, I know - in trying to add to wikipedia, and then make a mistake, a silly mistake, and I get hit a full on ban as opposed to a warning. I absolutely know where you and the others are coming from, I know the purpose and the intent, and I do recognise that I have slipped up on this in the past... still, it's knocked me around a bit so I think I should have some time away. Thanks again for all your help and for getting back to me so quickly. All the best.Dutchy85 (talk) 20:28, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
 * A voluntary break might be a good thing. I understand that it doesn't feel nice to be blocked, especially after volunteering a lot of your time towards this project. Please realize that copyright violations are extremely serious for Wikipedia, because they can cause legal trouble for the organization. That is part of the reason that you're getting treated somewhat harshly right now; there must be zero tolerance for copyright violations. The one part of your statement that I have to disagree with is that you received no warning. You've already been blocked twice, and last time you received very clear warnings about copyright violations and how serious they are treated here. It's not unusual for people to copy material into Wikipedia because they're unaware of the copyright policies. However, once they are blocked for persistent copyright violations and educated about the policies, the vast majority of them never copy content into Wikipedia again. If it does happen again, it's a clear sign that the editor either doesn't care about copyright policies, or isn't a serious contributor here, and they are quickly blocked permanently. I'm willing to believe that this was an unusual mistake, but I think that the seriousness of this mistake needs to be communicated to you. Either way, try to enjoy your break. Also, please don't try to evade the block, I've seen people attempt that before and it never ends well for them. ‑Scottywong | [speak] ||  20:43, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the prompt response (and for shifting the text down to the proper place.) I understand where you are coming from. I don't want wikipedia to get in trouble. And I get it about evading the block - I assume they have my IP address or something. Have a good Christmas. Dutchy85 (talk) 20:50, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

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In addition to the block above, I've removed autopatrolled. Regardless of whether or not you are unblocked, I don't think someone with a history of copyright violations can be trusted with it. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 04:10, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

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