User talk:Dwaipayanc/Archive 19

Re: Featured topics
Hmmm.. Hyderabad not featured is a major stumbling block. I wonder if we can have a collaboration to get it up to FA status. Meanwhile see this discussion: Template talk:Metropolitan cities of India. =Nichalp  «Talk»=  15:02, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * AFAIK, Hyderabad is excluded from the official metro list. But why not try and push both categories up to FT status? =Nichalp   «Talk»=  17:55, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes! I had similar odd plans before. There's a single article I wish to make both a featured list and article. Donno if I'll get time to research on that. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  18:29, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I did some searching. There is some confusion in the government websites regarding the definition of metropolitan city and mega city. Most popular version is that a metropolitan city is 1 million-plus city and a mega-city is a 4 million-plus city. The seven mega cities are Ahmedabad, Bangalore, Chennai, Delhi, Hyderabad, Kolkata and Mumbai. Some links I found:


 * http://persmin.nic.in/cvo/cvofaq_det.htm#18
 * http://pib.nic.in/release/release.asp?relid=9247
 * http://pib.nic.in/release/rel_print_page.asp?relid=23683
 * http://pib.nic.in/archieve/lreleng/lyr2002/rapr2002/24042002/r2404200221.html
 * http://pib.nic.in/release/rel_print_page.asp?relid=5457
 * http://pib.nic.in/release/rel_print_page.asp?relid=23683

Think we need a new template Template:Mega cities of India (include 7) and more cities to Template:Metropolitan cities of India.

HTH. Regards, Ganeshk  ( talk ) 05:53, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I think Ganesh is correct. But a think to be noted is that cities do not automatically get the mega-city status. It has to be declared by the government. There was much talk about mega-cities when ahmedabad was granted that status in budget 2005. See point 79. - Aksi_great (talk) 11:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Asking for help, please, check and reply
I posted the following on Rama's talk page (this is about Shahbag:


 * No, the references are not meant as further readings. At least one (alas, removed by you) 1912 book is cited even inline. What is needed? In-line citation from all of those sources? That's possible, but will take a little time (I don't have all of those books around, certainly not the documents from the Nawab Bari). Date of publication are all given, publishers name can be added (let me check), but ISBN numbers can be a problem. Bangladeshi publications started to have ISBN numbers only recently (can't exactly tell the year). please, advise.


 * Now for the redlinks, was it necessary to create so many redlinks. Not all the schools in an area may warrant a separate article, but all put together may represent a formidable presence. The Christian New Year is the common new year around the world (i.e. January 1). It is significant in thsi context because Bangladesh also celebrates two other new years - the Bengali New Year, and the Hijri New Year. Boli Khela is the Bengali name for wrestling and Basanta Utsav is explained in fair details already on the article (though, I guess, I am going to take this opportunity of creating articles on those). Let me take another day to create stubs for the rest. Please, advise.


 * Now, for two more tthngs. First, what's it with image arrangement? The article, I think, was looking better before this new arrangement. Besides, it has messed up the formatting of the palace list (at least on my Mozilla Firefox, can't tell about Explorer). And, finally - does the separate section on festivals really has to go? Festivals, I believe, do warrant a separate section in the article. Once again, please, advise.

Then he replied, to my talk page, the following:


 * Except for the issue adding information on the reference books and about half of the red links, most of these points are not critical and entirely up to your judgment. Check with Ragib or Dwaipayan about these points. Once you deal with these points one way or another, my opinion is that this article is ready for FAC.

So, here it comes - please, check and advise. Answer to either Talk:Shahbag or User talk:Aditya Kabir. - Aditya Kabir 20:54, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey :)
Hi Dwaipayan! I'm doing well - I read your featured article, it's very informative and well written. Congratulations! I hope you're well. – Riana shiny disco balls 05:18, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

thanks for your welcome message
i have studied in Kolkata (xaviers) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanjiv swarup (talk • contribs)

Hey
Hi. If you remember, I said a few week (okay, months :) ) back that I had been to Ghoom during December. I finally got to sorting the stuff. Unfortunately, the most usable information is about the Japanese Peace Pagoda. I am currenly in the process of compiling the info and uploading the pics I took. Once the upload is complete, I will send you the link. View and use the pics as you like. -- soum  talk  17:23, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Btw, your talk page could very well do with an archiving. -- soum  talk  17:24, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


 * This flickr thingy sucks. Its taking a hell lot of time. -- soum  talk  18:36, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


 * The pics are finally online :). -- soum  talk  19:28, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


 * And of course, the Ghoom monastery. -- soum  talk  19:42, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I have a simpler solution. You just select whichever pic you want, and I will upload it here as well. :) -- soum  talk  20:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Monasteries
Cheers for a colorful webpage. -- soum  talk  21:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


 * For usable information regarding the peace pagoda, take a look at http://www.divshare.com/download/258916-bc9 -- soum  talk  21:36, 20 March 2007 (UTC)


 * They are all located in the Japanese peace pagoda. The Myohozi temple and the Peace Pagoda are located just next to each other. The four Buddhas are on the four sides of the dome. In the front shot, one of them can be seen. (Please get this image deleted when done. Thanks) -- soum  talk  06:04, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Kings names
Excellent question. This very topic has helped historians solve (in Indian History) many historical issues. Just as today (especially in rural India and even conservative families in modern cities) Indians often give their children names that had been used by their ancestors, the Kings did the same thing. This helped them remember with respect, fondness etc their ancestors. There are people in my family in India whose names are exactly that of our not too long ago ancestors. Now-a-days however parents couch the names of their elders as middle names of their children. For instance when we named our daughter, my father couched his mothers name as one among the five names we gave my daughter, though only one of these names became her legal given name.

This practice of passing on ancestoral names has helped historians trace genelogies more easily then would have ben possible other wise. As an example please read my article Origin of Rashtrakutas. I believe I have included this as one among many research facts put forward by historians. The suffixes, IV, V, VI are modern designations given by English language historians (from any country) as a way to distinguish one from the other. Medieval Vernacular inscriptions do not do this. They simply quote the entire genelogy upto a certian stage and leave it there helping epigraphists identify each king better. This practice of maintaining ancestoral names as a part of ones "initials" is still very prevalent in South India, especially in Andhra where people have up to 4 initials such as in "K.A.P.R Sastri". One of the initials may also be the native place. These section on Rashtrakuta Society which I recently edited has a mention on this.Dineshkannambadi 21:39, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

On the above topic, just some more info. There are cases where Kannada Kings had suffixes in their names that was equivalent to the English numerical prefix. Examples are Immadi Pulakesi (Immadi= II), Mummadi Krishnaraja Wodeyar (mummadi=III). However it is not clear to me if these were also used in inscriptions or were designation given by vernacualr historians.Dineshkannambadi 00:34, 21 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Seems to be special cases. If I come across any further info, will let you know.Dineshkannambadi 13:40, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
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Shilpa Shetty
Thank you very much for your encouragement. I've already had a suggestion to get it nominated for GA first and I definitely intend it to reach FA-class, thank you for your encouragement. Ekantik talk 18:32, 21 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for the barnstar, very generous of you. :-) Ekantik talk 18:36, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Re:One featured picture
Hi Dwaipayan,

Being featured on commons doesn't mean featured on Wikipedia. In fact if you see, its nomination as a Wikipedia FP. Of course, since WP India is quite independent of Wikipedia project as a whole, no one can say anything if the image is included. But it will definitely confuse people what the standards of inclusion are. If you want to include the image, I would recommend that you also make it clear somewhere that the criteria for inclusion means selection as FP either on enwiki or commons. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 07:32, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

email
You have mail from me.Dineshkannambadi 13:59, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Batu Lintang camp
Hi there Dwaipayanc, and thanks so much for your kind words about the page - glad you liked it. Jasper33 18:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks the first Assamese film on wikipedia! THey have also nominated my Indramalati too! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "I've been expecting you" 19:46, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

And Zhuangzi Tests His Wife!! I have just started Torrent (1926 film) also. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "I've been expecting you" 22:44, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
For your help with RU. I'm taking a wikibreak, will look at Bengal once I'm back. Keep up the good work--ppm 00:27, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Chaunk
Hello, can you possibly help sort out the different alternate names (and maybe give some Hindi or Bangla scripts) for chaunk? Badagnani 04:54, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

CU
Oh totally, CU should be an FA, as well as Presidency College. And there should be more references/info available, too.--ppm 19:00, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

History
I agree with you that there should be a reference to the revolutionary/terrorist movements. The manner of reference can be mild. Let me try and get a reference or two. I think I will get a day or two. I have procured a good biography of J.C.Bose (Govt of India publication). I will get on to that page too within two or three days. Regards. -- P.K.Niyogi 05:32, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I have looked through the printed material I have and have not been able to locate any satisfactory quote to support the view. Regards. -- P.K.Niyogi 14:02, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Tornadoes
Neat! I'm going to mention them now. Saravask 14:15, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi
Thanks for your kind comments. Do you have a connection to, or particular interest in Batu Lintang, or were you just passing through? I don't have one really myself; it was just that Jasper33 asked for my advice. I would like to attend an Australia-India Test Match at Eden Gardens one day, but I don't know when that will be possible. :-) Grant | Talk 15:07, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Reply
Hi Dwaipayan,

Nice to hear from you. I am fine. May I just request you to kindly oversee the following issue?

UserID: Tunmaj is doing nonsensical things at wikipedia. He/She is writing unreferenced statements, often wrong, extremely laudatory, and personally biased. For example, this user has edited the page of Sarode maestro Kalyan Mukherjee, and written there that Mr Mukherjee is a student of Tejendranarayan. I know from very reliable sources that Mr Mukherjee was never a student of Tejendra, but is a fellow musician of Tejendra. You can also check the personal website of Kalyan Mukherjee where Tejendra's name is nowhere mentioned. Also, this User: Tunmaj has written in Ustad Bahadur Khan's biographical webpage that Tejendra is the greatest musician, and wrote some sentences in the last paragraph which may be found derogatory and personally biased by many. Here, 1. I oppose because in an abstract field like music, no one should say who is the greatest. Especially without proper references. And 2. This user Tunmaj is clearly trying to promote Sarode player Tejendranarayan Majumdar. But this user should understand that wikipedia is not the place for achieving their personal interests.

This user Tunmaj is perhaps a new user, and does not even has a talk page where one can oppose. This user has also written nonsensical issues in other musician's webpages (like Vilayat Khan, Nikhil Banerjee).

I request you to kindly see the issue, and block the user from editing articles if possible.

Dwaipayan, if possible, please also let me know your email address.

Chandronandan 23:15, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi!
Hi! Saw you commenting on the Kaziranga peer review. Your user page is looking GREAT! Saw you edited Howrah Bridge quite a bit. But it is lacking citations :(--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:35, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Greetings! Thanks for the hello and compliment. :) I know there's a lot of problems with the Howrah Bridge article (e.g. everything is unreferenced except the table). However, I'm not planning to work on Howrah Bridge soon — actually, I would like to bring Hindu iconography to FA status, but it needs a lot of work and I don't have that kind of time until the summer season comes around (I hope to work on it then!). I'm spending more and more time reading FAC's and FA's: seeing what's wanted of FA-class articles. Happy editing,  S.D.  00:01, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Help
I came back to work on the Language Movement after sometimes and feeling a bit helpless. Please provide me with any specific suggestion you might have for the article. Anyway congrates for working in Rajshahi University. Cheers :) ---Tarif from Bangladesh 09:26, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

RKO
Hi. Thanks for your note and for your specific comments on the FAC. The article was nominated by someone who I believe is a relatively new editor who didn't consult me with before launching it. So no, I haven't notified anyone as yet. For the moment, I've just been treating it as a sort of higher profile peer review. I'm quite happy with the content and the sourcing, but I'm left with two main concerns: (1) Those three lists, which I think are really helpful, but understand others may see differently, and (2) the total number of fair-use images--I think the amount is appropriate to the article and its subject, but the trend is really to limit fair-use images. Anyway, for the moment, I'm just waiting to see what people have to say before deciding if I want to push the FAC more aggressively. Thanks again, Dan.—DCGeist 08:10, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Image:ThorpeCC.jpg
The image looks like a news outlet photo, I'm very sceptical that the news discussion site is actually the original source of the image. Do they employ photographers? ed g2s • talk 13:45, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed their images pages is full of copyvios. ed g2s • talk 13:48, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I understand why you wanted to get a photo there but copyright policy and copyright law does require we get things right. Just because a site claims to be licensed under CC doesn't mean it's okay for us to use all their content as CC when they likely don't have the rights to release all the content on their site as CC. Usually, the best thing to do is to use a bit of descretion/common sense. If the site is a blog or some user created site like youtube, you should always be wary as the people who contribute to such sites often don't bother to properly respect copyrights. If the photo (or whatever) looks a lot like a professional photo, then you should be doubly wary and check with the site or person who contributed the content first. If it were an amateur looking photo on e.g. flickr by someone who appears to only put up his or her own work, it's probably not necessary to check (although there is no harm in doing so). Nil Einne 13:57, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Re:kaziranga
after getting the permission, how to show that i have the permission, i read some where before that there is a place in wikipedia where permissions are recoreded. I will try to get the permission. Amartyabag  TALK2ME  07:13, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi Dwaipayan, Thank you for your welcome message. Could you please post the logo of Scottish Church College on-line in Wikipedia? And if possible put it in the info-box? I don't know how to download the logo without getting a copyright violation message. Byomkesh Bakshi 10:57, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Hello
I saw you at India Wikia -, and stopped by to say hello. We met last time in Bangalore on 29th September, 2006 when Jimmy had come there - let us plan one more meet, now in East India :) --Bhadani 13:23, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

License of old images
Hi Dwaipayan,

I have got those old images from my friend who informed me that they are not copy-righted. Hence I have uploaded the same.

I do not have much experience in these Wikipedia uploading / editing. It would be great if you can guide me.

Regards,

~ Sandipan Dutta (Monster eagle 08:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC)) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Monster eagle (talk • contribs) 08:16, 27 March 2007 (UTC).

Picture of Howrah Bridge
Hi,

I guess won't it be better if we place the image of the Howrah Bridge (Howrah Bridge_01.jpg) at the center of the page with enlarged size? Kindly let me know your comments.

Monster eagle 09:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Film
HI Dwaipayanc. THanks for your support of my articles. I am glad to see people from all over the world are pleased with my work. My latest film Torrent (1926 film) is also on the front page at this very minute today on the worlds largest web site!!!. At present I am compiling the entire list of films by country and am currently working on Argentine films. HOwever when I find time I will add another new article. When the lists are done I can concentrate and adding all missing films from wikipedia!! I see you are from Kolkata. How about I start a Bengali-language film and see if I can get it on the front page? WOuld you be happy to see this?

THis template is mine and I am going to use it at the foot of all Indian articles -Templates have been drawn up for every country! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "I've been expecting you" 12:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Cool I have just begun Bengali Uttara (film) by Dasguptar. Now I am in the middle of copy editing and writing the article from various sources!! You'll see it progess quite nicely. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "I've been expecting you" 13:17, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Wow I was expecting somthing quite different when I thought about starting this Bengali film article Uttara (film). Its gruesome!! I picked the first director on the Bengal template and one of his notable films. Heard of it? I was quite surprised with the content but it seems very interesting indeed! I am half done I'll finish the rest later. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "I've been expecting you" 14:08, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

THanks referencing will be done afterwards. I have a very good knowledge of films from all over the world but I must admit I hadn't heard of this one -I felt like a quick challenge whilst I fill in the lists. Most non American /British films I have never seen in full but see the 10 minute videos and trailers on www.youtube.com. Later I will be starting a stub on a Nepali film which I saw on there!! THere are so many missing film articles!!!! I'll go out and enjoy the sunshine now and return this evening to complete the overview section. But if you could help tomorrow with the referencing (its probably pretty late in eastern India now I'd imagine) Regards ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  "I've been expecting you" 14:35, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

P.S You may interested in reading the article which I created the full content for, acclaimed Iranian director Abbas Kiarostami. Myself and User:Sangak with some copy editors turned it into a featured article!!!. See ya ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  "I've been expecting you" 14:40, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh I;m more than familiar with the great Satyajit Ray. I have read that article about 3 times!! and know his films well. A big asset to bengali cinema -one of the greatest directors of all time. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "I've been expecting you" 18:43, 27 March 2007 (UTC)