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Ekusher Shonkolon

 * 'Ekusher Shongkolon'80:Smriticharon', first published in 1980 from Bangla Academy, Dhaka. there is no author is mentioned in this book as it's like a Smriticharon of many. No editor either. But published from Bangla Academy speaks for it's reliablity.


 * Purbo-Banglar Bhasha Andolon O Totkalin Rajniti is written by Badruddin Umar, Volume 1, Second Edition and published in 1979, publisher-Agamee Prakashani.

there are still a couple of books. I'll try to get information about them. Tarif from Bangladesh 12:45, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: the following needed
Hi, beginning with an apology. I am sorry that I haven't been too hands on in improving the article. And, well, congratulations on the great work. With Ragib mostly and Nirav totally inactive it must have been one hell of a tough job. I have taken a look at you questions to Tarif, and I guess I can answer a few. Here goes: Keep the good work going. Finally, I have some new comments to make based on the books I have gone through (including the the History of Bangladesh published by the Asiatic Society of Bangladesh, the same people who published the Banglapedia) shows serious gaps in information. I am posting on the FAC page. Cheers. Aditya Kabir 14:44, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Bangladesher Swadhinotajuddher Dolilpotro edited by Hasan Hafizur Rahman, published by the Information Ministry of the People's Republic of Bangladesh, in 1982.
 * 2) Azad was a daily newspaper, and I'm not sure if we can call it The Azad.
 * 3) For the key resolution I can offer another source - Morning News (that's another daily newspaper), December 7, 1947
 * 4) The Education Conference happened not 1948, but in December, 1947.
 * 5) The news of the first Shahid Minar was published in Azad, dated 25.02.1952, but I need to check that again.

sorry for late
sorry I was offline for couple of hours and couldn't supply those info to you. Hopefully I am on now. Anything more to do? Tarif from Bangladesh 17:58, 23 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Ekusher Shongkolon was published in 1956 from Dhaka. It was a magazine. The editors were D. A. Rashid and Mohiuddin Ahmed. The information was taken from D. A. Rashid's essay named Ekusher Diary Tarif from Bangladesh 18:18, 23 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I saw the book at public library. I had the information but just can get it at the moment. I think the same citation can be given from Bashir Al Helal or Umar's book. I can do that. Is that ok? So tell about me about the place (in the article, I mean the line) where it should be given. Tarif from Bangladesh 18:36, 23 June 2007 (UTC)



1...I did not manage to get info about the Kobir book. But I have given citation to the same information that the book is linked with. In fact the Azad citation which I have given is the most reliable source for the incident of February 21(specially). Bashir Al Helal mentioned that every author followed the report of Azad in describing the incidents of February 21 and he himself simply copy-pest the report straightaway in his book. So we are safe to use this and you can delete the citation of the book. I will include that if I can get those info later.

2...A mistake is done as the proceedings at the parliament on February 21 are placed under the heading February 22. Banglapedia must be wrong about it. Not to be confused with the fact that proceedings did actually went on both of the days, the particular which is talked about in the article is actually occured on February 21. I have also given the citation of that.

3... I have discussed about Ohiullah and Salauddin on FAC page. Please read that and take your measures. Now If you excuse me, I can go to bed. Thanks. Tarif from Bangladesh 22:32, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Cool!
Have a look at the Oldenburg pages that Ragib bhai gave. It's great. Tarif from Bangladesh 10:50, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

What I've got

 * "Ekusher Shonkolon, 1956" is the citation for "Demonstrations broke out on the night of February 21, with various halls of the University of Dhaka raising black flags in mourning." The citation is incomplete. Either provide details (publisher -Bangla Academy? and year), or cite some other source (Al Helal's bbok?).

Ok, this could be found at ''Bashir Al Helal's book from pp.604-609. I have cited that in the article.


 * However, if you have the copies of the newspapers, I'd request to collect more information, such as the name of the article, page number, publisher etc.

May be I can find some of these, I'll let you know when I am done. Regards Tarif from Bangladesh 09:41, 24 June 2007 (UTC)


 * The Azad, February 22, 1952: Headline (in Bengali) Dhaka Medical College Hostel Prangone Chatro Shomabesher Upor Policer Guliborshon/Bishwabidyalayer Tinjon Chatroshoho Char Bekti Nihoto O Shotero Bekti Ahoto at the front page. other heading at the front page is-Schooler Chatro Shoho Bashotti Jon Greftaf:Guli Borshon Shomporkay Prodhanmontri Kortrik Todonter Ashshash Dan
 * The Natun Khabar, February 26, 1956:Editor:Abdur Kader, Banner headline at the front page  Gambhirjopurno Poribeshay Shaheed Dibosh Utjapon sub-heaing Maulana Bhasani Abu Hossain Sharkar O Barkater Mata Kortrik Shaheed Minarer Bhitti Prostor Sthapon

I may find a few more. I'll keep trying. Ragib bhai asked I would suggest checking Google news archive search feature, and searching US/UK newspapers of 1952 (which may call it Riot in Pakistan / dacca etc.) You can try this too. Thanks. Tarif from Bangladesh 10:12, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

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Good job, but...
Well, forgive me for playing the devil's advocate, and actually making little contribution. But, the expanded part of the legacy section on Language movement, although very nice and, to my knowledge, accurate as well, seems to be poorly sourced/cited/referenced. While Amar Bahiaer Rokte Rangano may pass as common knowledge, the rest may not have advantage to claim the same. That was the reason I kept that part simple and without much detail. May be Tarif can help citing some references there. Cheers. Aditya Kabir 17:35, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
 * No, no... don't revert. It looks very nice. I hope it can be referenced in a day or something. And, oh, I'm sure that you have noticed that I have just one opposition left - the copy. Give it another go, and may be we can convince Tony and Mark of the article's quality. Aditya Kabir 17:46, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Aditya Kabir 17:54, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

citation for poems and songs
i'll try to get citation for poems and songs. Regards. Tarif from Bangladesh 18:54, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Copyediting started
Dwaipayan, copyediting has started. Please keep an eye. I saw the the part proposal created discontent, this may be ok. But we should keep in touch. Sweet dreams. Tarif from Bangladesh 22:31, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Kyoko Topic
Please have a look at the talk page. Kyoko has asked for changing the lead section. My personal view is that its ok. Every people may have different styles and thoughts. But we have to maintain one. What do you think? By the way sorry for bothering you too much and feeling up your talk page with too many messages :( Regards Tarif from Bangladesh 19:08, 25 June 2007 (UTC)


 * By the way Kyoko said that the Legacy section needs a lot of work. Did she mean about copyediting or adding more info. If more info is needed please let me know. I was thinking about expanding the depiction article within a few week. But if needed Imay try to get some more info to it. Please let me know. Before I end, am glad to let you know that you are the second in receiving my messages (after Ragib bhai). Soon you'll be first :) Tarif from Bangladesh 20:02, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

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Criticisms
hello again. Arman Aziz who supported the FAC have posted a requirement in my talk page. Please come to my talk page and read it(sorry for being unable to copy it to you at the moment). Can you do anything about it? Tarif from Bangladesh 19:10, 26 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, I have also read Olderburg pages for this and saw so many of those things which you have mentioned, but thought it would be better to let you do the editing at this point. Thanks and of course, I will try to get some refs. :) Tarif from Bangladesh 17:55, 27 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Ok, don't worry. I'll ask them. Tarif from Bangladesh 18:08, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

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 * I have tried to address the issue as best as I can. Check. And, oh, I have made that visual impact thingy by striking out my issues on FAC :) Happy happy joy joy. Cheers. Aditya Kabir 07:15, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

The Azad Publisher
In early days, editors seemed to publish their own newspaper or they used to act as publisher come editor. That's why their is probably no specific publisher for the daily. Tarif from Bangladesh 18:35, 28 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Here you can find why Bhashani and Rahman have come out of Awami League. Thanks-Tarif from Bangladesh 11:50, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

no problem
Hello, don't worry about the Language Movement edit conflict, I rewrote a lot of the article, and some of my rewrites mirror what you had changed. I'll try to look at the article later. Please let me know what you think of my changes. -- Kyok o  21:27, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

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Thank you for adding more refs to the article! Apart from needing a copy-edit and perhaps a reduction in size, could you please give your opinion on what is needed on the talk page of the article. Addressing your concerns would make it one step closer to FA. Thanks! GizzaDiscuss  &#169; 02:03, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

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NIT article collaboration
Hi! Just wanted to let you know that I have extensively copy-edited the National Institutes of Technology article. I have made several language fixes and I was also successful in finding some authoritative references. Please have a look at the article and its talk page when you get a minute. Regards, Aksera 21:44, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Darjeeling Ropeway
Thanks for your edits to Darjeeling Ropeway. Regards. - P.K.Niyogi 13:08, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Language Movement
In regards to my comment, I do not feel it has been addressed. Regardless, I don't feel like it matters significantly enough to oppose, though I haven't read the article to support, so unless I do get around to reading it, I'll stay mute on the FAC. However, regarding my concern, why is it that the dates are in such a disarray. Some of the dates are not wikilinked, some the dates are wikilinked, but force the user to view it as DD Month, and some of the dates are wikilinked and allow the date preferences to figure itself out. This seems to me that the editors of the article has no understanding of why dates are wikilinked. Pepsidrinka 13:28, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

reply of new concerns
Dwaipayan da, please give a comment on changing the article name (again!) proposed by Kyoko. I'll try to solve your UF concern by tomorrow. Regards --Tarif from Bangladesh 20:11, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Hello
Hi Dwaipayan,

Have not been contributing to wikipedia for a while. Maybe I ll have more free time from September. Till then, I m merely putting up fair use rationale on images I uploaded, and doing minor edits. ray 20:06, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

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I've wikilinked all the dates according to your suggestion. But I have a couple of question to you-- 1. Should we link the same date all the time? Or may be one for each year (e.g. If 1954 has two, should we link one or both). 2. Some places years are also linked. Should we link the others or remove link from them? Please look into those and provide answers to me or probably can you take initiatives to solve these. Regards --Tarif from Bangladesh 20:43, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

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Hi Dwaipayan da, are you ok? i am fine. I did not log in yesterday, so a little late in responding you. I have asked Trusilver to have a look at the article on Wednesday. And he said that thinks the article has reached FA status now. He also made some fixes with sentences. By the way, last year on 15 July I sent an email to bangla-wiki group to promote the article to an FA. And after 364 days we're waiting for the decision. I know you can imagine my ecstasy if we get it. But if we don't I would still be happy. Because through this article I had the privilege to work wonderful people like you. I could not ask for anything more. Bye --Tarif from Bangladesh 05:10, 13 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I will, thanks. --Tarif from Bangladesh 05:32, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Tagore
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In Portal:Current events the Headlines are locked for editing by outsiders. All those want to add news can do so in the date-wise boxes. I feel there is need to do so for the Highlights column of Portal:Current events/India. Similarly, the Main Page cannot be edited. Editing of news from Portal:India should be stopped. In view of the interference now going on in Portal:India news column, I am stopping updating of Highlights column in Portal:Current events/India. I am continuing to update the daily news column. Regards.- P.K.Niyogi 05:04, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I have not taken any action on that as yet. You may go ahead and do something. - P.K.Niyogi 11:12, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you
Yes, I'll be visiting Bangalore. As you can imagine, my principal original research will involve tikka, naan, tandoori, and curry. Mmmm...I can't wait. Marskell 08:05, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm sick
thanks for your update. I was seriously sick today. Temperature arose to 104. So it's more better to know it from you under difficult situations. Tarif from Bangladesh 15:39, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

GA review of Religion in India
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