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Hello
Kindly, give a look at West Bengal, some new additions have been made, some links doesn't work. A bit copyedit will do. Kaziranga is more or less ready, problem with reference, what do u thinks how it will do if i place it in FAC??? Amartyabag  TALK2ME  11:53, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Re: Thanks
With people like you working to develop Bangladesh related articles I feel pretty hopeful already. Thanks. (Well, would you care to take a look at my editor review? You don't need to say good things about me, you know, rather a harsh critique would be most welcome.) Aditya Kabir 12:56, 16 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I have decided to be bold and have taken the article to FAC. See Featured article candidates/Kaziranga National Park. Aditya Kabir 15:45, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Featured article
Congratulations to you too. Without you this would never have happened. Talk to you later because at the moment I'm too weak to even write. Tarif from Bangladesh 15:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Hello Dwaipayan, Please look into this discussion and the relevant changes made in the article. If you have any inputs or concerns, please let us know in the same discussion, so that we can address. Thanks, - KNM Talk 20:00, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

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Splitting notes and citation in Hinduism
This is not in accordance with WP:LAYOUT and should been thoroughly discussed before you implemented it. The only reasonable way to back it out is to revert to the version before you did it. You have caused completely unnecessary work and caused the loss of not only your own edits but those of other editors. You are welcome to fix it properly, but please don't do it again. IPSOS (talk) 01:04, 18 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry, "possible" is not the same as "advisable", "permitted" or "recommended". It's still an extremely bad idea. WP:CITE says that the citation style should be determined by consensus of the regular editors of the article. Before making such a major and hard to reverse change, you should have determined if the consensus supported it: it doesn't. Your note on my talk page is simply wikilawyering. Yes, you found a loophole. No, it doesn't give you the right to override consensus. IPSOS (talk) 13:02, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

A quick and cursory survey found several examples of FA articles that separate explanatory notes from citations: Rabindranath Tagore, List of Harry Potter films cast members, Beagle, Scouting, Galaxy, Jerusalem, Solar System, Supernova, Thylacine, Ziad Jarrah, Antarctic krill, Demosthenes, Cat's Eye Nebula, Galileo Galilei, Harry McNish, The Four Stages of Cruelty, Red Barn Murder, Four Times of the Day, Elizabeth Needham, Ladakh, Peter Jennings etc. I thought you would be interested in this information. I have also added this to the Layout talk page where the issue is being discussed. Abecedare 19:35, 19 July 2007 (UTC)


 * You are welcome. I saw that Beagle, which was promoted as an FA a few hours back, used the style and that set me off on the scent trail. You'll notice that WP:AST (who have 41 FAs!) and User:Yomangani (who has roughly the same number :-) ) seem to prefer this style, although neither use it exclusively. Abecedare 20:13, 19 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Since both IPSOS and both continue to strongly oppose the use of the dual format, do you still feel that you have consensus for its use? So far only one other editor who actually edits in the Hinduism project agrees with you.  Sandy does not edit in the project, and her support seemed limited to a general view that some FAC articles use the split system.  Most FAC articles do not, the standard method calls for one set of references.  Unless some new point of view is introduced, I do not see that there is consensus for this radical change.  What do you think? Buddhipriya 06:44, 21 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Perhaps I misunderstood your reply, by which I took "no problem" to mean that you had no problem with going back to the prior single-section version since consensus for the dual system does not exist at this time:  The only reason why I then posted a request for a fallback on the Hinduism talk page was because I thought you were ready for that step.  I regret if I have misread your message.  My personal preference would be to leave the single-section version in place now, since there is currently no consensus for the dual system.  Should consensus emerge in the future, the change can be implemented at that time.  Do you feel that another approach would be more fair? Buddhipriya 04:37, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Featured article candidates/Geological history of Earth
please leave your comments on Featured article candidates/Geological history of Earth. eagerly waiting for your comments. Sushant gupta 01:42, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Image:Tagore-einstein2.jpg listed for deletion
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Forgive me
I have deprecated WikiProject History of Bangladesh and made it WikiProject Bangladesh/History Workgroup. I also have mass migrated the participants from the former project to the new workgroup. May be I was a little too bold here. Forgive me for doing this without consultation. The move was a part of the effort to rehash the entire Bangladesh project. If you and other participants agree, the next step should be deleting the previous page. Hopefully, The new workgroup would improve the level of activity related to coordinating our efforts. Please, respond to my talk page. Aditya (talk • contribs) 21:53, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

your comments on Featured article candidates/Geological history of Earth
i have addressed whatever you demanded for. can you kindly justify your comments please. thanks, Sushant gupta 11:39, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * can you please be more specific. tell me which web ref has not been addressed. Sushant gupta 08:40, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Kaziranga up for FAC
Kaziranga National Park has been nominated for FAC .Kindly support at Featured article candidates/Kaziranga National Park. Cheers.

Articles

 * Hi there! Well, as you can see, I've been tweaking the Lage Raho Munna Bhai article. Any discussion as to when a proposal should go out for it to be a "Today's Featured Article?" And no "classic films" at the moment, though maybe when things slow down a bit... -Classicfilms 06:34, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I've also been working on a few articles that need work if you are looking for projects. Much of Gandhism is unreferenced and needs to be rewritten with sources. Also, I'd like to develop the article, Giri (Sanskrit) which will help to develop Gandhigiri. -Classicfilms 16:09, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * That's interesting - I didn't realize it would be a problem. Is there a specific rule that states the number of images such an article needs? At some later point, if people are interested, it might be worth exploring. -Classicfilms 17:16, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Evolutionary history of life
Hi Dwaipayanc, i created this page on 18th July 2007 and now i want this page to be nominated for FAC. is there anything i can do in order to improve it. before nominating this article for FAC i want to improve this article completely. WP:PR might take a bit long time. thats why i have asked you for help. Sushant gupta 05:17, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Canned warning about canvassing
Your contributions history shows that you have been aggressively cross-posting. Although the Arbitration Committee has ruled that "The occasional light use of cross-posting to talk pages is part of Wikipedia's common practice."1, such cross-posting should adhere to specific guidelines. In the past, aggressively worded cross-posting has contributed towards an Arbitration Committee ruling of disruptive behavior that has resulted in blocks being issued. It is best not to game the system, and instead respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building, by ceasing to further crosspost, and instead allowing the process to reflect the opinions of editors that were already actively involved in the matter at hand. IPSOS (talk) 14:31, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Re consensus
We don't need a consensus to change it back to the previous consensus version. You needed to show consensus for the change. You did not and do not have a consensus to change it. Lack of consensus to make the change in the first place is sufficient reason to revert to the long-standing presumed consensus version. Just because all the editors whose edits arrived at that consensus version do not respond is no reason to presume that they might side with you, or to canvass for such support. An article RfC is the correct way to get more input. IPSOS (talk) 17:27, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Portal India News
I am quitting the Portal India news/ Current Events for now. I don’t want to be in the bull fighting ring. Let others who are interested do the job. If there is a change in situation, I may rethink. Sorry about it. Regards - P.K.Niyogi 01:02, 23 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I had taken up the news in Portal:West Bengal on my own. It was just an experiment and then I got attached. I can’t leave it because I don’t see anybody interested in that job. Portal:India / Portal:Current events/India was not a natural attraction for me and to do a good job, it takes at least 2 hours a day. Moreover, after doing all the news, the mind gets disturbed for other work. If really I had some interest I would have found, on my own, ways and means to continue. Now, I would like to continue on new articles, improvement of some existing articles (including some I wrote earlier) and some photography. There are hardly any photographs of Kolkata. The scope is enormous but my mobility/ energy is limited. Therefore, let’s see how much I can really contribute. I am sorry that I am not able to continue with the work of news on the India Portal. I can understand that your career is bound to draw you in but since you have contributed enormously to Wikipedia, don’t say good bye in haste. Keep going, even if it is on a lower key. Your presence around provides so much confidence in others. Regards. - P.K.Niyogi 16:53, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

pithe
Hi Dwaipayanc, I need the scientific name of Ole-kachu (the root vegetable ) for Ole-pithe. I went and looked at all the root vegetable listed in the article root vegetables I could not recognise the plant among any one of them. If you know the scientific name that will be awesome, thanks, Jeroje 00:24, 24 July 2007 (UTC)jeroje

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Entrance Examination
Dwaipayan da, is there any article on entrance examination which used to held during the British period? Please let me know. Regards --Tarif from Bangladesh 07:33, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Hello
After a hiatus of many months I am back. If there is anything that I am needed to do please let me know. Take care Antorjal 17:23, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Kaziranga is now a FA
Thanks for all your help and co-operation you have shown to me to improve the article Kaziranga. For your knowledge, the article is now a FA. Cheers. Amartyabag  TALK2ME  11:33, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * -Deepraj | Talk 13:02, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

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Bangladesh portal
Hi, I'd like to draw your attention to Bangladesh portal. I have tried to address the concerns in earlier peer review and checked the portal against Featured portal criteria. Based on this I think it is proper time to push for Featured Portal status for Bangladesh Portal, which will be an important milestone for WikiProject Bangladesh. But to achieve this I need help from you. Please participate in the on-going discussion on the talk page and give me your valuable inputs.-Arman Aziz 03:45, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

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I'm fine
Hi, Dwaipayan da. I'm alright, thanks. How about you. Please, keep it touch. Ask me if you want something. Sorry for the late reply, went to Rangpur to see my sweet home and to meet my beautiful cousins. Anyway, you keep fine. Regards --Tarif from Bangladesh 11:23, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Geology of solar terrestrial planets
Hi Dwaipayanc, on 4th August, 2007 I created a page on Geology of solar terrestrial planets. Can you please review the whole article before 8th August, 2007; before i pass it on for FAC. thanks, Sushant gupta 12:17, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the nice welcome box on my talk page. Shruti14 ( talk • contribs ) 16:39, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

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Saptagram
I am now working on Saptagram. I will enter it for DYK very soon. Regards. - P.K.Niyogi 00:26, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your edits to Subodh Chandra Mullick. Please have a look at Portal talk:West Bengal - I am not conversant with the technical aspect. Even if you are hard pressed for time please give a look-in now and then. It is great to have a consistent contributor like Antorjal back with us. With regards. -- P.K.Niyogi 14:07, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

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Etymology of Kolkata
Concerning the etymology of Kolkata

- Thanks for the welcome. Noted that you changed back the entry on the etymology of Kolkata in the Kolkata entry.

According to the entry on the etymology of Kolkata, the city's name is derived from the village Kalikata. It is true that some refer to the city as Kalikata, but the name Kolkata or Calcutta cannot be derived from this village-name. Kalikata and Kolkata is two different words, with different etymology. The reference to Kalikata in order to explain Kolkata is actually primarily a folk-etymology, which cannot be explained either concerning linguistic changes or culturally (like changing the pronunciation of Kali Ma). I would like to refer to P. Thankappan Nair's book "Calcutta in the 17th Century" for an English discussion of the etymology.

When it comes to early references to Kalikata, these are also incorrect - even as there is made a reference to Britannica. It's occurrence in Bipradaser Manasamangal is an interpolation, and the oldest Mughal/Persian reference is from 1698.

In short - the word Kolkata cannot be derived from the word Kalikata. It is two separate words, which needs separate etymological explanation. Again, the English name Calcutta can with a high degree of certainty be derived from Kolkata, but not from Kalikata.

Yours, g.

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Need your Support
Please support the article Lage Raho Munna Bhai at Today's featured article/requests so that this article may be put on the Main page on September, 01. This is the first anniversary of the film’s release. Your kind support may help to achieve this feat. Pls. forward this message to others you know. Amartyabag  TALK2ME  11:57, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Dwaipayanc
Your deletion of my post on Delhi. Why ....even after my request "Wikipedia vigilante please don’t just delete ..improve if you will !!" Cheers Intothefire 17:16, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Kano ? Moshai Dwaipayanc Kano ? Airokum cholbe na !! Cheers Intothefire 17:18, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Bhashan of my posts Intothefire 08:32, 15 August 2007 (UTC) Thikache dada , aami tumar message bhalo rokom buchte pari ... but have you noticed how wikipedia pages have become like the padas of Calcutta with the dada log of each pada forming a clique .....I have the distinction of being amongst the most deleted wikipedians .....each of my posts is taken on "bhashan" sometimes I wonder is the order making wikipedia better or boring.

Meanwhile can we work on a rude like Delhi food article with some attitude nstead of the article turning into another official note  like Gujju food

Cheers 08:31, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

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